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Best lighting ever. 1999 imo was the peak of bodybuilding, physique wise. After that it begin to decline.
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X 2 on the start of the decline.
I remember being a naive 16 year old nerd recording that very show on Eurosport and watching the vcr over and over while following the routines out of Arnold's book. A few years later I taped over it with porn
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X 2 on the start of the decline.
I remember being a naive 16 year old nerd recording that very show on Eurosport and watching the vcr over and over while following the routines out of Arnold's book. A few years later I taped over it with porn
lol ;D
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If I were a judge:
1) Ronnie
2) Levrone
3) Flex
4) Ruhl
5) Dexter
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If I were a judge:
1) Ronnie
2) Levrone
3) Flex
4) Ruhl
5) Dexter
I can't overlook Levrone's lackluster bdb. If you want to be ahead or the head of the pack, you need to be among the best in the bdb pose. It has become the post important pose in bodybuilding. Ronnie's, Flex's, Shawn Ray's and Dexter's bdb better than Kevin.
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The show never actually took place. Smoke and mirrors, photoshopped pictures and advanced CGI techniques were used to project 3d holographic images onto a giant green screen. Add in some "audience sounds" and camera trickery, in retrospect the whole thing appears very believable. They used the same studio in which the Moon landings were hoaxed and the whole fraud was overseen by Stanley Kubrick.
Find me someone who attended the event and I'll show you somebody who walked on the moon :-)
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Can you imagine that this guy is still competing on Top Level 16 yrs later?? Insane!!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/99%20grand%20prix/more%20pics/1999BritishGrandPrix_0086.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com//contests/1871-arnold-classic-australia/2015/1874-dexter-jackson/1874-dexter-jackson-59_final.jpg)
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Best lighting ever. 1999 imo was the peak of bodybuilding, physique wise. After that it begin to decline.
I disagree. The 2015 Phil Heath Classic had the best lighting of all time. It was like a combination of Kamali's kitchen and the muscle rock from pumping iron
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I can't overlook Levrone's lackluster bdb. If you want to be ahead or the head of the pack, you need to be among the best in the bdb pose. It has become the post important pose in bodybuilding. Ronnie's, Flex's, Shawn Ray's and Dexter's bdb better than Kevin.
Yeah. Levrone's rear double bi look better when he did twisting variations...
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Yeah. Levrone's rear double bi look better when he did twisting variations...
Yeah, he just didn't have the definition needed in that pose to win an Olympia. In every other pose he's good or great. His bdb unfortunately is just ok.
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In Levrone's 1999 British GP posing routine; he almost didn't look human when he leaned forward and let his arms hang
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Best lighting ever. 1999 imo was the peak of bodybuilding, physique wise. After that it begin to decline.
You rant-and-rave about guts in the sport and this this is the peak? ::)
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In Levrone's 1999 British GP posing routine; he almost didn't look human when he leaned forward and let his arms hang
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You rant-and-rave about guts in the sport and this this is the peak? ::)
That physique actually won a Mr. Olympia :-\ :-\
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/SutmoK5FSSI/AAAAAAAABW8/bCLFK-gzsKc/s400/1997-mr-olympia-98_20090830.JPG)
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That physique actually won a Mr. Olympia :-\ :-\
Troll on ;)
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Troll on ;)
Sounds like you. ;)
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Sounds like you. ;)
I wasn't trolling , Wiggs rants-and-raves about guts in the sport and he uses this as the peak of it? Come on. That's just hypocrisy.
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I wasn't trolling , Wiggs rants-and-raves about guts in the sport and he uses this as the peak of it? Come on. That's just hypocrisy.
Perhaps this is more of the peak of bodybuilding. Or closer to it
(http://johnhansenfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/haney-fdb-olympia.jpg)
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I wasn't trolling , Wiggs rants-and-raves about guts in the sport and he uses this as the peak of it? Come on. That's just hypocrisy.
Wiggs knows a thing or two about jumbo waist sizes
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Perhaps this is more of the peak of bodybuilding. Or closer to it
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But pre-gut, Ronnie was the peak of bodybuilding.
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But pre-gut, Ronnie was the peak of bodybuilding.
Pre-gut Ronnie wasn't winning contests.
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Pre-gut Ronnie wasn't winning contests.
First olympia win?
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Wiggs knows a thing or two about jumbo waist sizes
please tell me this is shopped?
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please tell me this is shopped?
Lololol. It's shopped by 250lbs. Never been close to this. Oldie but goodie
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Lololol. It's shopped by 250lbs. Never been close to this. Oldie but goodie
Wiggzy tribe is sinking in Mediterranean sea & he is into BB , ;D
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If Yates did not retire after the 1997 Mr O...
And Ronnie did beat him in 1998 or 99...
I imagine that Yates would've upped his doses dramatically and competed around 285LBS in an attempt to reclaim the title
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Im not saying Ronnie didn't have a distended gut, but using a picture of haney sucking in and ronnie relaxing isnt a painting the real picture.
Once again, Im not saying Ronnie didn't have a gut but come on man, thats so lame. Post a real comparison.
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ND fears Ronnie 99 because of what he can do to his hero.
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Ronnie at 260 pounds at this show had the greatest arms of all time
probably the greatest back too
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Ronnie at 260 pounds at this show had the greatest arms of all time
probably the greatest back too
Yeah and the greatest gut ;)
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ND fears Ronnie 99 because of what he can do to his hero.
Yeah buddy , Ronnie was 99 months pregnant that's about it
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Yeah buddy , Ronnie was 99 months pregnant that's about it
FYI, so was dorian 93 and he sucked compared to Ronnie 99:
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even Ronnie's tris were huge and shreaded at this show, long before the tri tears of his later career. insane when he hits the side tri shot in his posing routine.
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FYI, so was dorian 93 and he sucked compared to Ronnie 99:
No body beats Ronnie in the GUT department lol
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Very new and refreshing thread idea going on here.
Odd nobody ever posted about this topic before...
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Ronnie is on another level.
Not from that show but it's one of his best back pictures. This cannot be beaten.
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Kevin really holding his own there, and honestly he's winning that MM shot. I was never a fan of Ronnie's back, the way the erectors and lats connect is odd I think. Kevin there is just huge and shredded especially under that light. His back might not be the widest onstage, but it's PLENTY thick to hang with Ronnie here. Kevin's only flaws from the front is that he looks a bit narrow unless he's in a pose that lets his tris stick out and his lats aren't spectacular. He has a great chest, but it can be hidden in the MM pose he always hits. His arms crush crush Ronnie in the MM though, super thick.
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Kevin really holding his own there, and honestly he's winning that MM shot. I was never a fan of Ronnie's back, the way the erectors and lats connect is odd I think. Kevin there is just huge and shredded especially under that light. His back might not be the widest onstage, but it's PLENTY thick to hang with Ronnie here. Kevin's only flaws from the front is that he looks a bit narrow unless he's in a pose that lets his tris stick out and his lats aren't spectacular. He has a great chest, but it can be hidden in the MM pose he always hits. His arms crush crush Ronnie in the MM though, super thick.
Kevin's back was actually wide in the RLS, but lacked serious thickness in the BDB.
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Ronnie is on another level.
Not from that show but it's one of his best back pictures. This cannot be beaten.
Agreed. Looks like 01 ASC.
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Ronnie is on another level.
Not from that show but it's one of his best back pictures. This cannot be beaten.
True. I've never seen lats that thick in the BDB and the "pop" Ronnie's lats have is out of this world.
2000 BGP.
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why do kevin's delts look so puffy and smooth against ronnie's in the rdb?
I know he has been accused of injecting esceline in the past, but what is going on here??
they really overpower the rest of his arms (tris/bi's) in that shot.
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Best lighting ever. 1999 imo was the peak of bodybuilding, physique wise. After that it begin to decline.
Looking back, one of the signs that bodybuilding was on the decline was the over-promotion of Greg Kovacs. He stepped on the scene when bodybuilding was in its prime.... The mid 90's. He was promoted excessively into the late 90's (and beyond). It was ridiculous.
MuscleMag & MuscleTech did the bodybuilding world a huge disservice by acting like Greg had the ideal look. Overwhelming bodyweight coupled with nearly inhuman training poundages.
Then he competed @ the 1997 NOC. He was one of the first guys ever to use synthol. He got crushed.
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Ronnie is on another level.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=570848.0;attach=612651;image)
Not from that show but it's one of his best back pictures. This cannot be beaten.
Are Ronnie's glutes normal? They seem to go halfway down the back of his leg ! No HOMO.
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Are Ronnie's glutes normal? They seem to go halfway down the back of his leg ! No HOMO.
No he had a crazy big ass and super low insertion points
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No he had a crazy big ass and super low insertion points
Do you think this contributed to his crazy leg strength?
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Do you think this contributed to his crazy leg strength?
Honestly it could have. Since lifting is all about angles, lengths and power applied. Hence why top power lifters are different looking inserts and proportions that's what there body is set up to do. So it's quite possibly his lower inserts had a postitive effect on his lifting movements
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Honestly it could have. Since lifting is all about angles, lengths and power applied. Hence why top power lifters are different looking inserts and proportions that's what there body is set up to do. So it's quite possibly his lower inserts had a positive effect on his lifting movements
Well, you often hear that the glutes are the strongest muscle in the body (I don't know if this is true or not, but it seems to a popular belief among the mainstream). So I guess having excessively large glute muscles would help you in movements like the squat, deadlift and leg press, all lifts with which Ronnie moved crazy poundage.
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Well, you often hear that the glutes are the strongest muscle in the body (I don't know if this is true or not, but it seems to a popular belief among the mainstream). So I guess having excessively large glute muscles would help you in movements like the squat, deadlift and leg press, all lifts with which Ronnie moved crazy poundage.
I agree with you. I have a small ass and my glutes get smoked after squats. If I had a crazy muscular ass I know I could lift a lot more. Especially with low insertion points. They would act like a spring any any compound exercise
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I agree with you. I have a small ass and my glutes get smoked after squats. If I had a crazy muscular ass I know I could lift a lot more. Especially with low insertion points. They would act like a spring any any compound exercise
Pics from various angles are needed for serious scrutiny...no homo....
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No he had a crazy big ass and super low insertion points
So big they it can be seen from the front :-X it got to the point where they started photoshopping it out
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So big they it can be seen from the front :-X it got to the point where they started photoshopping it out
ND your hating on Ronnie is obsessive
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ND your hating on Ronnie is obsessive
No more than your ' hating ' on me. gimmick. 8) How is that ' hating ' BTW? It's an observation. I always laugh when you fanboys type Ronnie was ' symmetrical ' and ' proportionate ' how can you be either when your ass is so fucking overdeveloped and can actually be seen from the front?
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No more than your ' hating ' on me. gimmick. 8) How is that ' hating ' BTW? It's an observation. I always laugh when you fanboys type Ronnie was ' symmetrical ' and ' proportionate ' how can you be either when your ass is so fucking overdeveloped and can actually be seen from the front?
Hating on you? Its pretty obvious your obsessive, no hating needed. You came into this thread, and started putting up all the anti-Ronnie stuff which is what you always do. So yeah you're an obsessing. Your goal is to put RC into the worst light you can. Thats called obsessive. If Dorian were taking this much abuse from one jerk, like you give Ronnie, Id say the same thing. Save your venom for the Dorian v Ronnie threads.
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BTW he still looks awesome in the unaltered pic.
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Hating on you? Its pretty obvious your obsessive, no hating needed. You came into this thread, and started putting up all the anti-Ronnie stuff which is what you always do. So yeah you're an obsessing. Your goal is to put RC into the worst light you can. Thats called obsessive. If Dorian were taking this much abuse from one jerk, like you give Ronnie, Id say the same thing. Save your venom for the Dorian v Ronnie threads.
Anti-Ronnie? I made an observation about Wigg's hypocrisy and it pertained to the contest he posted. He rants & raves about guts in the sport but is more than willing to overlook it in favor of Ronnie. And you're flat-out wrong again , I don't try and put Ronnie in the worst light ever , I never commented on his 25 kids , or he was arrested for impersonating an officer or he's dumb as a bag of rocks or his racist rant that Jay only beat him because he was white. I mainly keep any critique of Ronnie to his physique. So you're full of shit with your nonsense I'm trying to paint Ronnie in a bad light , he doesn't need my help.
And Dorian takes a fuck of a lot more ' abuse ' than Ronnie does. I don't try and defend him at all turns. another lie. Come back under your real account and stop hiding under a gimmick.
BTW he still looks awesome in the unaltered pic.
He looks ' awesome ' for what he was , a freak.
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First off, i said 99 was the peak of bodybuilding. What do you do? You show a picture of Ronnie "raising the roof" breathing as proof that he has gut.
I didn't even mention Ronnie, you did.
You're obsessive compulsive.
You're mentally ill.
Anytime you get a chance to take a swipe at Ronnie's physique you don't waste it. You do this to try score points in favor of Dorian. You're a caricature.
What's funny is that you and everyone here knows I'm a Lee Haney guy and always have been. You just can't seem to help yourself.
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Anti-Ronnie? I made an observation about Wigg's hypocrisy and it pertained to the contest he posted. He rants & raves about guts in the sport but is more than willing to overlook it in favor of Ronnie. And you're flat-out wrong again , I don't try and put Ronnie in the worst light ever , I never commented on his 25 kids , or he was arrested for impersonating an officer or he's dumb as a bag of rocks or his racist rant that Jay only beat him because he was white. I mainly keep any critique of Ronnie to his physique. So you're full of shit with your nonsense I'm trying to paint Ronnie in a bad light , he doesn't need my help.
And Dorian takes a fuck of a lot more ' abuse ' than Ronnie does. I don't try and defend him at all turns. another lie. Come back under your real account and stop hiding under a gimmick.
He looks ' awesome ' for what he was , a freak.
Its kind of telling of how warped your perspective has become on getbig when you label anyone under 1000 posts as a gimmick. Anyways, you continually incriminate yourself by bringing up all the personal shit, I mean you just recalled it at a whim. Thats obsessive. Ronnie pre-2003 did have a gut but nothing Yates didn't have either so its kind of ironic you keep mentioning it. Ronnie toed the line of mass and symmetry before 03 and only afterwards did it really tip out of his favor. Once again, Yates had a large gut too. And no one in their right mind ever said Dorian had better symmetry or aesthetics than Ronnie. No one. And half of Dorian's heat is in direct response to your heat on Ronnie and your obnoxiously repetitive rhetoric about how much Dorian is superior. Just give it a rest dude, they were both 2 of the best ever. Let it go. I would actually be cool if it was someone else spouting all this Dorian shit, anti-Ronnie shit if it just wasnt you. Because you do it all the time and its just so old.
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First off, i said 99 was the peak of bodybuilding. What do you do? You show a picture of Ronnie "raising the roof" breathing as proof that he has gut.
I didn't even mention Ronnie, you did.
You're obsessive compulsive.
You're mentally ill.
Anytime you get a chance to take a swipe at Ronnie's physique you don't waste it. You do this to try score points in favor of Dorian. You're a caricature.
What's funny is that you and everyone here knows I'm a Lee Haney guy and always have been. You just can't seem to help yourself.
First off, i said 99 was the peak of bodybuilding. What do you do? You show a picture of Ronnie "raising the roof" breathing as proof that he has gut.
I didn't even mention Ronnie, you did
You don't need to mention Ronnie , you posted a video of a contest that Ronnie won as proof that this year was the ' peak ' of competitive bodybuilding. You just don't like being called on your blatant hypocrisy. Wiggs you look like an idiot for posting this especially after your multiple recent tirades on guts in bodybuilding.
You're obsessive compulsive.
You're mentally ill.
I believe they call that ' projection ' and it's ironic you posted that of all people.
Anytime you get a chance to take a swipe at Ronnie's physique you don't waste it. You do this to try score points in favor of Dorian. You're a caricature.
This I agree with this. more asinine projection on your behalf. It's you morons who are obsessed with Dorian Yates , I almost NEVER bring him up. It's always a Ronnie fanboy ;) I don't need ' points ' for Dorian ( Dorian always beat Ronnie not the other way around ;) ) and I know I'm not swaying anyone's mind on the subject.
What's funny is that you and everyone here knows I'm a Lee Haney guy and always have been. You just can't seem to help yourself.
You're a ' whoever ' suits your fancy this week guy , Kai Greene ring a bell? Ronnie ring a bell? Flex ring a bell? your ' favorite ' changes like your bi-polar mood.
Insult me all you want , it doesn't change the fact you look like an jackass for hootin-&-hollerin about guts in the sport and then post the ' peak ' of the sport looking pregnant. The ' peak ' would be before the gut like Haney's era , you know your ' favorite '
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I look like a jackass to you because you're delusional.
Dorian is my favorite white bodybuilder. Lee Haney is my favorite black bodybuilder..All racist, and I'll report myself to Ron.
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Get some help.
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Its kind of telling of how warped your perspective has become on getbig when you label anyone under 1000 posts as a gimmick. Anyways, you continually incriminate yourself by bringing up all the personal shit, I mean you just recalled it at a whim. Thats obsessive. Ronnie pre-2003 did have a gut but nothing Yates didn't have either so its kind of ironic you keep mentioning it. Ronnie toed the line of mass and symmetry before 03 and only afterwards did it really tip out of his favor. Once again, Yates had a large gut too. And no one in their right mind ever said Dorian had better symmetry or aesthetics than Ronnie. No one. And half of Dorian's heat is in direct response to your heat on Ronnie and your obnoxiously repetitive rhetoric about how much Dorian is superior. Just give it a rest dude, they were both 2 of the best ever. Let it go. I would actually be cool if it was someone else spouting all this Dorian shit, anti-Ronnie shit if it just wasnt you. Because you do it all the time and its just so old.
Its kind of telling of how warped your perspective has become on getbig when you label anyone under 1000 posts as a gimmick.
Please we both you know you're a gimmick , my perspective isn't ' warped ' this place is full of gimmicks like you , it's par for the course.
Anyways, you continually incriminate yourself by bringing up all the personal shit, I mean you just recalled it at a whim. Thats obsessive.
Don't assert it , prove it. I NEVER bring up Ronnie's personal life and never have not my style son. Just because I recalled it doesn't mean I use it. Here's a golden opportunity for you to ' own ' me , prove it. ;) I keep my critique to his physique.
Ronnie pre-2003 did have a gut but nothing Yates didn't have either so its kind of ironic you keep mentioning it. Ronnie toed the line of mass and symmetry before 03 and only afterwards did it really tip out of his favor. Once again, Yates had a large gut too. And no one in their right mind ever said Dorian had better symmetry or aesthetics than Ronnie.
Ronnie had a gut from 1998 ON there never was a time where he didn't when he was Mr Olympia. And yes Dorian had a gut too , NOTHING like Ronnies and I'm not constantly claiming he was the ' peak ' of bodybuilding. Ronnie was never the high water mark for mass & symmetry , Flex was. Ronnie was a freak & not much more. just because he had a narrow waist & hips doesn't make him symmetrical. I laugh when people say Ronnie was ' aesthetic ' it proves how clueless they are. ;D he might be more ' aesthetic ' than Dorian it's not saying much , because I can name 20 guys eons better in aesthetics than Ronnie , and none of them could beat Dorian either.
And half of Dorian's heat is in direct response to your heat on Ronnie and your obnoxiously repetitive rhetoric about how much Dorian is superior. Just give it a rest dude, they were both 2 of the best ever. Let it go. I would actually be cool if it was someone else spouting all this Dorian shit, anti-Ronnie shit if it just wasnt you. Because you do it all the time and its just so old.
Bullshit , I'm calling bullshit again on this. I almost NEVER bring Dorian Yates up in Ronnie threads. That's a blatant lie. Ronnie fan boys do , they did it here , they did it in the other thread , they'll continue to do it. ;)
We know for a FACT Dorian was better than Ronnie 8 times they faced each other and 8 times Ronnie got his ass handed to him. This is indisputable. Now the question is could Ronnie be able to finally beat Dorian? lol ;D 8) It's not whether could Dorian beat Ronnie. The Ronnie fanboys have been trying & trying & trying to convince the world he really could. But more intelligent people know he wouldn't ;)
recall I walked away from this ' debate ' years ago , satisfied with my points. What happened? The same thing that is still happening to this day. Ronnie fanboys chasing me down , making shit up , bringing Dorian into everything. Isn't that what this boards are for anyway? Gossip & Opinions?
Carry on , bitch if you , don't bitch doesn't make a difference I'm still gonna post the same old shit.
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I look like a jackass to you because you're delusional.
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Get some help.
No you look like a jackass for your multiple rants & tirades on the epidemic of guts in bodybuilding and then have the audacity to call Ronnie and his pregnant gut the ' peak ' of bodybuilding. ::)
Wiggs you're cracking bro
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Ladies & Gentlemen I give you the " peak " of mens professional bodybuilding. ;D
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No you look like a jackass for your multiple rants & tirades on the epidemic of guts in bodybuilding and then have the audacity to call Ronnie and his pregnant gut the ' peak ' of bodybuilding. ::)
Wiggs you're cracking bro
Shut up already dipshit. You brought up Ronnie. I said 1999 was the peak of bodybuilding. You see Ronnie in 1999 was the peak of bodybuilding. I'm not cracking or projecting or anything else you're trying to project onto me. Quit bringing Ronnie into conversations where he's not talked about. No one was hinting or trolling or anything else. You are absolutely insane. GET HELP!
We all laugh at you.
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Shut up already dipshit. You brought up Ronnie. I said 1999 was the peak of bodybuilding. You see Ronnie in 1999 was the peak of bodybuilding. I'm not cracking or projecting or anything else you're trying to project onto me. Quit bringing Ronnie into conversations where he's not talked about. No one was hinting or trolling or anything else. You are absolutely insane. GET HELP!
Best lighting ever. 1999 imo was the peak of bodybuilding, physique wise. After that it begin to decline.
Your quote , 1999 was the " peak of bodybuilding , physique wise. " You're not escaping this son. who won everything in 1999? Ronnie , who had the biggest gut physique wise? Ronnie , maybe Fux but Ronnie was being rewarded.
Some more pics from the ' peak of bodybuilding , physique wise. '
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Please we both you know you're a gimmick , my perspective isn't ' warped ' this place is full of gimmicks like you , it's par for the course.
Don't assert it , prove it. I NEVER bring up Ronnie's personal life and never have not my style son. Just because I recalled it doesn't mean I use it. Here's a golden opportunity for you to ' own ' me , prove it. ;) I keep my critique to his physique.
Ronnie had a gut from 1998 ON there never was a time where he didn't when he was Mr Olympia. And yes Dorian had a gut too , NOTHING like Ronnies and I'm not constantly claiming he was the ' peak ' of bodybuilding. Ronnie was never the high water mark for mass & symmetry , Flex was. Ronnie was a freak & not much more. just because he had a narrow waist & hips doesn't make him symmetrical. I laugh when people say Ronnie was ' aesthetic ' it proves how clueless they are. ;D he might be more ' aesthetic ' than Dorian it's not saying much , because I can name 20 guys eons better in aesthetics than Ronnie , and none of them could beat Dorian either.
Bullshit , I'm calling bullshit again on this. I almost NEVER bring Dorian Yates up in Ronnie threads. That's a blatant lie. Ronnie fan boys do , they did it here , they did it in the other thread , they'll continue to do it. ;)
We know for a FACT Dorian was better than Ronnie 8 times they faced each other and 8 times Ronnie got his ass handed to him. This is indisputable. Now the question is could Ronnie be able to finally beat Dorian? lol ;D 8) It's not whether could Dorian beat Ronnie. The Ronnie fanboys have been trying & trying & trying to convince the world he really could. But more intelligent people know he wouldn't ;)
recall I walked away from this ' debate ' years ago , satisfied with my points. What happened? The same thing that is still happening to this day. Ronnie fanboys chasing me down , making shit up , bringing Dorian into everything. Isn't that what this boards are for anyway? Gossip & Opinions?
Carry on , bitch if you , don't bitch doesn't make a difference I'm still gonna post the same old shit.
I neither have the time nor immaturity to keep debating you on this when its plain as day. When it comes to Ronnie Coleman, you are obsessive. Otherwise, you're pretty objective.
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Shut up already dipshit. You brought up Ronnie. I said 1999 was the peak of bodybuilding. You see Ronnie in 1999 was the peak of bodybuilding. I'm not cracking or projecting or anything else you're trying to project onto me. Quit bringing Ronnie into conversations where he's not talked about. No one was hinting or trolling or anything else. You are absolutely insane. GET HELP!
We all laugh at you.
;D another 800 Afro Wiggzers drowned , o man those Italian sardines will get too fat :P
:'( :'( :'(
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Ass so far you can see it from the front ;D
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At least Ronnie never showed up at the Olympia missing an entire body part.
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At least Ronnie never showed up at the Olympia missing an entire body part.
He was missing TWO his entire career , what about his abs? those were missing too
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He was missing TWO his entire career , what about his abs? those were missing too
They werent missing. They were a weak bodypart.
Wolfs calves are practically missing.
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They werent missing. They were a weak bodypart.
Wolfs calves are practically missing.
Missing In Action
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At least Ronnie never showed up at the Olympia missing an entire body part.
ya, dorian was gunning for the Kovacs look ;D
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By ND's logic, Ronnie never beat Dorian so Yates is better. Ok, Yates lost to Benaziza and Haney. Does that mean that Dorian would never have beaten Haney. I think 1993 DY would have unless Haney upped the doses and started high level GH and insulin. However, I digress. The issue is that in poses, not relaxed nonsensical photos, RC was the best damn bodybuilder who ever lived. He may have taken a while to get there but once he was there and was on point he was untouchable. Dorian peaked in 1993 which was the second year he won the Olympia. He never got better. 1995 he was huge but his symmetry and gut were appalling. In 1996 and 1997 he won but the champ always got the nod by the judges. Thus ND's point that DY always beat RC is off base as RC became RC after 1998. DY was a shell of his former self and retired. If he were dominant he would have gone for eight or nine O's to solidify his legacy. Didn't happen as he knew the writing was on the wall. RC was more muscular, more aesthetic, and just better. Tough shit, it's life. If you ask me, Cutler in 2009 would have beaten Yates easily in the later years. BTW, in 1994 Yates sucked.
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Anti-Ronnie? I made an observation about Wigg's hypocrisy and it pertained to the contest he posted. He rants & raves about guts in the sport but is more than willing to overlook it in favor of Ronnie. And you're flat-out wrong again , I don't try and put Ronnie in the worst light ever , I never commented on his 25 kids , or he was arrested for impersonating an officer or he's dumb as a bag of rocks or his racist rant that Jay only beat him because he was white. I mainly keep any critique of Ronnie to his physique. So you're full of shit with your nonsense I'm trying to paint Ronnie in a bad light , he doesn't need my help.
And Dorian takes a fuck of a lot more ' abuse ' than Ronnie does. I don't try and defend him at all turns. another lie. Come back under your real account and stop hiding under a gimmick.
He looks ' awesome ' for what he was , a freak.
Ronnie got arrested for impersonating an officer?
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By ND's logic
ND has never had 'logic'
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ND has never had 'logic'
Much much better overall package by Yates there.
Open your eyes
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Ronnie got arrested for impersonating an officer?
Kinda he go pulled over and made mention that he knew the caption of the police force and said he was a cop. Not used to be a cop
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Much much better overall package by Yates there.
Open your eyes
only if much better overall package = calves only and nothing else lol
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98-99 Ronnie would destroy Yates. Sorry not even close.
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only if much better overall package = calves only and nothing else lol
He was first and Ronnie was sixth lol 8)
Ronnie was always way way behind Dorian. Always would be too lol
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He was first and Ronnie was sixth lol 8)
Ronnie was always way way behind Dorian. Always would be too lol
They evolved at different times... Yates lost to lee in 91. That doesnt mean a 95 Yates would lose to a 91 lee.
09-10 Phil lost to cutler but a 2011 Phil destroys cutker. So that argument dosnt carry any wieght
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Isn't ND'S favourite bodybuilder Flex Wheeler at the 1993 AC? Someone should start a 1993 AC Flex Wheeler vs. 1993 Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates. I sure would like to see that thread and how ND replies.
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Isn't ND'S favourite bodybuilder Flex Wheeler at the 1993 AC? Someone should start a 1993 AC Flex Wheeler vs. 1993 Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates. I sure would like to see that thread and how ND replies.
as good as Flex was, he still loses to a prime Ronnie and that just crushes ND..
keep in mind his only "argument" for Flex 93 beating Ronnie 99/2001 AC etc is a comparison of scorecards at two different contests 5 years apart LOL ::)
What ND fails to understand is that the numbers assigned to a competitor are only applicable relative to the competition on stage at that particular contest.
eg. if kevin levrone gets an average score of 30 at the 98 NOC and Vince Taylor got a 25 at the 93 Mr. O, it doesn't mean that had they stood onstage at the same time that Vince would automatically beat Kevin..
they could have been assigned totally different numbers had they met etc.
the numbers are relative ONLY to who they faced that day.
its still game set match for Ronnie
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They evolved at different times... Yates lost to lee in 91. That doesnt mean a 95 Yates would lose to a 91 lee.
09-10 Phil lost to cutler but a 2011 Phil destroys cutker. So that argument dosnt carry any wieght
That's not the crux of my argument but it is part of it. Dorian lost twice in his entire career that's insane. Yates lost to Momo and he beat him in return. Yates lost to Haney and still beat a career best Haney in the muscularity round. He NEVER placed lower than second in any pro contest. He was a winning machine. Even when he lost he still made inroads , Ronnie was never close to him ever. Statistically Ronnie wouldn't beat him.
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Isn't ND'S favourite bodybuilder Flex Wheeler at the 1993 AC? Someone should start a 1993 AC Flex Wheeler vs. 1993 Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates. I sure would like to see that thread and how ND replies.
Dorian would beat him. he simply meets the criteria better than Flex. The only difference between Flex 93 O and 93 ASC was conditioning. By the time the Olympia came around he was spent from cleaning up at the pro shows.
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Ronnie is crushing Flex in those back comparisons
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as good as Flex was, he still loses to a prime Ronnie and that just crushes ND..
keep in mind his only "argument" for Flex 93 beating Ronnie 99/2001 AC etc is a comparison of scorecards at two different contests 5 years apart LOL ::)
What ND fails to understand is that the numbers assigned to a competitor are only applicable relative to the competition on stage at that particular contest.
eg. if kevin levrone gets an average score of 30 at the 98 NOC and Vince Taylor got a 25 at the 93 Mr. O, it doesn't mean that had they stood onstage at the same time that Vince would automatically beat Kevin..
they could have been assigned totally different numbers had they met etc.
the numbers are relative ONLY to who they faced that day.
its still game set match for Ronnie
Moron he said Flex VS Dorian. remove your head from Ronnie's striated ass for a moment and pay attention. Flex 93 ASC wasn't pregnant ;)
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Ronnie is crushing Flex in those back comparisons
Maybe because the back double biceps shot of Ronnie is heavily sharpened ;D
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That's not the crux of my argument but it is part of it. Dorian lost twice in his entire career that's insane. Yates lost to Momo and he beat him in return. Yates lost to Haney and still beat a career best Haney in the muscularity round. He NEVER placed lower than second in any pro contest. He was a winning machine. Even when he lost he still made inroads , Ronnie was never close to him ever. Statistically Ronnie wouldn't beat him.
I Understand what your saying and I agree to a point. I think Yates was just more dominate out of the gate. Where Ronnie took years to come into his own. Kinda like how Kai took years to place second at the O and Phil did that shit in 4 years.
But would a 03 Ronnie beat a 95 Yates. It would be hard for me to tell you no. I don't think anyone ever will
Fyi I don't really care for a post 99 Coleman. But from a no bias bb perspective this almost unbeatable size, shape and condition. I don't know of we will ever see anything like it again
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I Understand what your saying and I agree to a point. I think Yates was just more dominate out of the gate. Where Ronnie took years to come into his own. Kinda like how Kai took years to place second at the O and Phil did that shit in 4 years.
But would a 03 Ronnie beat a 95 Yates. It would be hard for me to tell you no. I don't think anyone ever will
Fyi I don't really care for a post 99 Coleman. But from a no bias bb perspective this almost unbeatable size, shape and condition. I don't know of we will ever see anything like it again
There is something that looks less than impressive about Ronnie's 2003 Front double bicep pose (whereas in 1999 it was epic). Ronnie was too big in 2003. Too much muscle.
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There is something that looks less than impressive about Ronnie's 2003 Front double bicep pose (whereas in 1999 it was epic). Ronnie was too big in 2003. Too much muscle.
thats because 99 was arguably the best overall Ronnie ever looked
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Coleman looks terrible in just about every pic that's been posted in this thread. Any version of Yates would wipe the floor with him. Sulkster is still living in a dream world after all these years.
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thats because 99 was arguably the best overall Ronnie ever looked
No , it's not and never has been. We both know this , 1998 or 2001 ASC and be both know why because his conditioning was spot-on in those contests
Ronnie stating the obvious
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I Understand what your saying and I agree to a point. I think Yates was just more dominate out of the gate. Where Ronnie took years to come into his own. Kinda like how Kai took years to place second at the O and Phil did that shit in 4 years.
But would a 03 Ronnie beat a 95 Yates. It would be hard for me to tell you no. I don't think anyone ever will
Fyi I don't really care for a post 99 Coleman. But from a no bias bb perspective this almost unbeatable size, shape and condition. I don't know of we will ever see anything like it again
95 Yates would beat Ronnie 03 for the same reasons Shawn Ray beat much heavier men who were not as complete and had inferior conditioning