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There's been a lot of talk about Van Halens Hot For Teacher
on the boards lately but I think the best drum intro to a song
is Pantera's 13 Steps to Nowhere...
Makes me wanna punch somebody ;)
Next.....
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P.s.....Tom Sawyer from Rush doesn't
count..
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Ticks and leeches
rational gaze
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Walkin' On Sunshine by Katrina and the Waves starts off with a fiesty drum beat.
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This is probably the most recognizable:
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Banging the drum with a mike.....does that classify. ...haha
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YOU COULD BE MINE GUNS AND ROSES...
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Led Zeppelin - When the Levee Breaks
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funky cold medina tone loc :-X
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Intros? "Over the Mountain" and Badlands' "Shine on" both have cool little opening fills.
"Stand up and Shout" has a similar HfT-type pattern, but it's on the snare and much shorter. Great drums throughout, though.
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Intros? "Over the Montain" and Badlands' "Shine On" both have cool little opening fills.
YEAH...
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Wasn't that Lee Kerslake of Heep on that Ozzy album ?
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GTFO!
judas priest - painkiller
best drum intro in the world!
makes me feel like I'm six foot 10!
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But let's face it: drum solos in concerts are sooooooooo boring.
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Led Zeppelin - When the Levee Breaks
Love this one. Simple, but badass.
Rival Sons, my current favorite, pays Bonham tribute here, kinda meshing Levee and Kasmir for the intro:
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Every metalhead knows these:
But practically it's almost impossible for rock music to make memorable drum intro without help of something else.
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Wasn't that Lee Kerslake of Heep on that Ozzy album ?
No, it was Avery.
(Yes, Kerslake.)
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But let's face it: drum solos in concerts are sooooooooo boring.
For me, totally depends on drummer. Dude like Dave Weckl (jazz fusion, mostly), I can and have listened for hours. Rock solo, there are a handful I can sit through. You're mostly right, though.
As a shitty drummer, I feel like you, passionately, about guitar and (God forbid) bass solos.
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But let's face it: drum solos in concerts are sooooooooo boring.
Drum solos are the worst thing in rock music.
It's like explosive diarrhea - you never know when it'll hit you, you can't wait till it's over and you surely hate it.
But in jazz it's totally different story.
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Agreed. But even in jazz they shouldn't take too long....as with every instrument.
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Not really intros, but this is the kind of rock drumming that sends the Obama-like thrill up my leg.
Isolated "Fool in the Rain."
Temple's "Your Savior."
Both subtle, jazzy ghost notes, etc., each perfectly enhancing their respective tune. Many, many other examples, of course.
Also, question for Getbig's drummers/90s rock fans: Why is Matt Cameron's drumming in Soundgarden and Temple of the Dog SO MUCH more impressive than what he's since done with Pearl Jam? Is it just that PJ's music doesn't lend itself to more complex drum work?
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Bonham was really the best ever..... 8)
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Bonham was really the best ever..... 8)
No argument here. Not for rock, anyway.
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Agreed. But even in jazz they shouldn't take too long....as with every instrument.
Agreed. Jazz usually works all instrument soloing into songs. Some are obviously longer, especially if the band's name includes the artist's.
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Haha yes, but that's not just with jazz... 8)
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It's not the intro, but I like the song, the beat and of course the performance by Mike Mangini.
Sounds great even on bootleg-quality record.
Agreed. Jazz usually works all instrument soloing into songs.
Well, jazz works every way imaginable. ; )
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no. Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Joe Morello, Art Blakey, Louie Bellson, Gene Krupa, Ed Shaughnessy, Alan Dawson, Billy Cobham, Bernard Purdie are a small sample of better drummers than John Bonham. The drummers listed were rudimental drummers. Bonham was a drug addled drunk.
You cannot compare these jazz/bebop drummers to Bonzo. They are different, not better.
I highly respect guys like Grupa, Rich and so...
To each their own.
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no. Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Joe Morello, Art Blakey, Louie Bellson, Gene Krupa, Ed Shaughnessy, Alan Dawson, Billy Cobham, Bernard Purdie are a small sample of better drummers than John Bonham. The drummers listed were rudimental drummers. Bonham was a drug addled drunk.
He was this, for sure, but he was so much more. Amazing drummer, knew his rudiments inside and out. Studied Krupa, by the way; Bonham was essentially "beating the hell outta jazz" (as Bill Ward later described his own approach). Bonzo knew his shit, no question.
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Haha yes, but that's not just with jazz... 8)
As compared it to the exclusive arena rock _______ solo, I meant.
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It's not the intro, but I like the song, the beat and of course the performance by Mike Mangini.
Sounds great even on bootleg-quality record.
Well, jazz works every way imaginable. ; )
Indeed, just addressing the solo was all.
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Michael Anthony's bass solo was
the worst thing I've ever seen.
..major pilgrimage to the bathroom
when that took place..
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Michael Anthony's bass solo was
the worst thing I've ever seen.
..major pilgrimage to the bathroom
when that took place..
Oh, shit. Sat through that on 1984 tour. Horrible. Think that was the first and last I'd ever heard.
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Tommy Lee during the dr Feelgood tour.
"Drum solos are a complete waste of concert time".
Red Hot
Too young too fall in love
Sinners N saints
Painkiller
Over the mountain
Motorbreath
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Saw Anthonys solo on the OU812 tour..horrible..and
chugging his Iced tea from a Jack Daniels
bottle...haha
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Best drum song of the 1990s. Nothing is even close:
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GTFO!
judas priest - painkiller
best drum intro in the world!
makes me feel like I'm six foot 10!
this
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Best drum song of the 1990s. Nothing is even close:
Pretty much anything on that record could qualify.
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That Thing You Do by the Oneders
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the intro live 'from song remains the same'the crowd a bit silent and then the 1st hits on the hi hat and snare for 'rock n roll;and there off....
neil peart is still one of the greats,,the last minutes of red barchetta him and alex liefson is great.
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Hallowed by thy name - Maiden
Edit: oops I didn't read drum intro.
Still thinking........
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Hallowed by thy name - Maiden
clive burr was good drummer,,,
run to the hills
number of the beast
wrath child..
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clive burr was good drummer,,,
run to the hills
number of the beast
wrath child..
Wrath child. Great song. Check out the remake on the "Number of the beast - An all star salute" Di'Anno sings it, with Frank Bellows and others on instruments, ands sounds better than the original. Di'Anno sounds better than ever.
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Wrath child. Great song. Check out the remake on the "Number of the beast - An all star salute" Di'Anno sings it, with Frank Bellows and others on instruments, ands sounds better than the original. Di'Anno sounds better than ever.
i like di'anno ,he was more punk influenced ,and 2 good albums to start,but they wanted broader sound,he vocally was limited to there sound they wanted to take the band..
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Bonham was really the best ever..... 8)
Amazing speed, chops and playing double bass with a single peddle.
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Absolutely did not know the rudiments, by his own admission. Could not read charts. Live drum solos sucked.
I notice you're kind of a rudiment nazi. Please you link the admission? Even if he didn't know them, he most certainly could have played them. Just watch him handle the snare, guy. Doubles, paradiddles, flams, etc. all over the place, like a drumliner.
And solo-wise, you obviously haven't seen Song Remains the Same. Unless your suggesting "Moby Dick" was performed by his stunt double.
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bohnam for sound /power one of the greatesr
trampled under foot
carouseleramba sp?in through the out door had great sound...
bonzos montreux
the rover
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for the vh alex fans
dirty movies of of fair warning'cool drum intro'
everybody wants some
seventh seal
humans being 'twister'soundtracl
poundcake/pleasuredome
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Absolutely did not know the rudiments, by his own admission. Could not read charts. Live drum solos sucked.
"John Bonham began taking lessons to master his rudiments, but quickly developed his own hard-hitting sound."
http://www.johnbonham.co.uk/site/downloads/bonham-article.pdf
Guess you can interpret that however you'd like.
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began taking lessons, but stopped means he was not a musician. another drunkard like Keith Moon. Bonham sucks.
"Not a musician" is simply retarded, formally trained or not. And, obviously, your quote interpretation completely suits your predetermined Bonham narrative. Sounds to me, though, like he mastered them so quickly he got bored and moved on.
Agree with you on Moon, though. Way overrated.
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began taking lessons, but stopped means he was not a musician. another drunkard like Keith Moon. Bonham sucks.
Of course not. He was a drummer, not a musician.
Next thing you know, people will be calling singers musicians as well.
Total anarchy.
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Not the best, but I always liked this one... He goes out at the end just as fast/heavy... Too bad he (Dave Holland) ended up be a kid diddler...
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This is the best drum song of this decade. That he also sings makes it even more impressive.
As an aside, if you're in NYC, and want to see live music, The Bowery Ballroom has excellent sound.
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If formal study is your main concern, why include Rich on your list? Imagine you'd know his history.
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Fuck the intro. NO ONE could ever beat this...
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Have you guys watched movie Whiplash? It's about relations between aspiring jazz drummer and his teacher.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2582802 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2582802)
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If you still haven't - give it a try, it's great film about music (yeah, a rare case) with top-notch acting and editing.
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according to some here the booze bag John Bonham is the better drummer
If only he could read those pesky charts, huh?
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For me this or "Stargazer" by Rainbow.
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Rocket by Def Leppard has nice drum intro.
Basically carries on the whole song.
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For me this or "Stargazer" by Rainbow.
yes,,,cozy powell..stargazer basically has it all vocals/guitars/back up 'keyboards/drums'masterpiece,another classic rainbow/dio'gates of babylon'
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Ticks and leeches
rational gaze
Yes and yes
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Bonham was really the best ever..... 8)
His solos were quite boring. The live solo in The Song Remains the Same was sloppy and overly long, also quite repetitive.
Musically he was a phenomenal drummer who played what was right for the song.
Not trashing JB, was highly influenced by him as a kid. Learned kick drum right foot independence by playing When the Levee Breaks, The Ocean and Kashmir among others.......I just think his strongest suit is his musical, groove oriented style.
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The tired Buddy-Rich-is-the-best-and-no-one-else-will-ever-be-as-good claptrap needs to die. Yes, the man was a freakishly amazing drummer, but it's hardly a stretch to imagine there are many others since who have matched, or even bested, his skills.
Spouting his name is like a default setting these days.
As well, to make THE OTHER tired statement that "rock drummers aren't in the same league occupied by jazz drummers" is proof of ignorance and/or lack of musical creativity of the mind.
Talent is talent and the genre in which talent is expressed is merely a canvas for that talent.
And who is retarded enough to suggest THEY hold the master key of drumming talent quantification/qualification?
Please.
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The tired Buddy-Rich-is-the-best-and-no-one-else-will-ever-be-as-good claptrap needs to die. Yes, the man was a freakishly amazing drummer, but it's hardly a stretch to imagine there are many others since who have matched, or even bested, his skills.
Spouting his name is like a default setting these days.
As well, to make THE OTHER tired statement that "rock drummers aren't in the same league occupied by jazz drummers" is proof of ignorance and/or lack of musical creativity of the mind.
Talent is talent and the genre in which talent is expressed is merely a canvas for that talent.
And who is retarded enough to suggest THEY hold the master key of drumming talent quantification/qualification?
Please.
People who are not musicians cannot really comprehend what Buddy is doing in the video. Yes, he was fast as fuck, but he was also precise. 95% of the drummers in the world will never even get close to that level. Will anyone else be as good?... probably. I've seen/heard some very good drummers, but I've never seen anyone come close to that... not yet anyway.
The thing that makes that video even more amazing is that Buddy was in his mid-60's there.
"If you don't practice enough, you'll end up a drummer in a rock band" - Buddy Rich
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People who are not musicians cannot really comprehend what Buddy is doing in the video. Yes, he was fast as fuck, but he was also precise. 95% of the drummers in the world will never even get close to that level. Will anyone else be as good?... probably. I've seen/heard some very good drummers, but I've never seen anyone come close to that... not yet anyway.
The thing that makes that video even more amazing is that Buddy was in his mid-60's there.
"If you don't practice enough, you'll end up a drummer in a rock band" - Buddy Rich
HUGE Rich fan - not really interested in the 'better than Buddy' conversation - but he contradicts himself in the quote you've attached. Dude bragged about NEVER practicing.
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Recognizable to my generation