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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: maxkane69 on April 28, 2015, 08:45:52 AM
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WHO DO YOU BELIEVE ???
RICH PIANA " THE MASS MONSTER "
OR "THE SKINNY WHITE TWINK"
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Yep..... You need to increase cals and mls to grow yo
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This entire industry is polluted with these awful people.
8)
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OP would help out greatly if he would stop typing big.
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GOMAD for superior gains.
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Yes
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What does Big Lenny think?
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Rich believes that you should add a little oil in between your meals
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cant make something out of nothing, law's of thermo dynamics etc etc etc.
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cant make something out of nothing, law's of thermo dynamics etc etc etc.
Teenagers going through puberty will grow regardless of calorie surplus or even maintenance
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It's sufficient to lift weights with good form and a properly designed periodization protocol.
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eating big is american and anyone who doesnt is ANTI AMERICAN
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Yes you do. Know that doesn't mean shit food. But a lot and I mean lot of clean food.
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I wish he would you the word "fucking" more. I feel it would add to his street cred with the 5%ers.
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Yes you do. Know that doesn't mean shit food. But a lot and I mean lot of clean food.
You really are down the rabbit hole aren't you.
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You really are down the rabbit hole aren't you.
You haven't grown new muscle tissue for 35 years so it doesn't apply to you. Getting back what you used to have in the days of Angelito Lester doesn't need bigger eating.
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Yes you do. Know that doesn't mean shit food. But a lot and I mean lot of clean food.
Yeh, all the big guys eat 'clean' food ::)
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You haven't grown new muscle tissue for 35 years so it doesn't apply to you. Getting back what you used to have in the days of Angelito Lester doesn't need bigger eating.
Haha nice. The guys just your typical get big troll. I guess according to him 3 meals a day will get you to
A solid 250 at 5'8".
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Yeh, all the big guys eat 'clean' food ::)
We all know they eat some junk in there to. Of course. I get fat easy so for me its 5 clean measured out meals and one clean cheat a day (steak or a homemade burger and baked fries) no measuring or anything just clean food. Then once or twice a week I can have junk. Pizza ice cream you name it. This is what works for me but I'm a fatty. Some pros on tons of gh+genetics can eat fast food every day. But there not eating it ever meal
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Teenagers going through puberty will grow regardless of calorie surplus or even maintenance
depend's on what you mean by grow, they get taller but also get skinnier
from what i can tell its just a re partitioning of the available material, energy & stores being put into the body and what the body is made up of and i've never seen any example of someone growing during puberty without eating or their body composition altering to accommodate these changes, myself included i got much taller and leaner during puberty.
bone growth and muscular tissue take priority due to an increase of gh and testosterone.
we stop growing due to gh level's tapering off etc but people with gigantism for example are enormous, never stop growing but even though the structure of their skeleton is large the amount of available material distributed into those structures are the same as a normal person leaving those structures brittle and weak with little fat deposit's and a disproportionate amount of atrophied muscle.
when you look at someone like ramy and realise the guy has enough lean muscle to require 5000+ odd calories plus growth and hormones just to maintain, it boggles my mind.
also i've never hear anyone who looks worth a damn say calories and food in general isn't important for growing, people just need to be willing to attempt something that seem's hard rather than looking for an easy (non existent) option.
people like rich probably don't even know what they consume calorie wise and just adjust the hormone's to make their bmr compensate.
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You haven't grown new muscle tissue for 35 years so it doesn't apply to you. Getting back what you used to have in the days of Angelito Lester doesn't need bigger eating.
its called genetics, you will cotton on one day.
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depend's on what you mean by grow, they get taller but also get skinnier
from what i can tell its just a re partitioning of the available material, energy & stores being put into the body and what the body is made up of and i've never seen any example of someone growing during puberty without eating or their body composition altering to accommodate these changes, myself included i got much taller and leaner during puberty.
bone growth and muscular tissue take priority due to an increase of gh and testosterone.
we stop growing due to gh level's tapering off etc but people with gigantism for example are enormous, never stop growing but even though the structure of their skeleton is large the amount of available material distributed into those structures are the same as a normal person leaving those structures brittle and weak with little fat deposit's and a disproportionate amount of atrophied muscle.
when you look at someone like ramy and realise the guy has enough lean muscle to require 5000+ odd calories plus growth and hormones just to maintain, it boggles my mind.
also i've never hear anyone who looks worth a damn say calories and food in general isn't important for growing, people just need to be willing to attempt something that seem's hard rather than looking for an easy (non existent) option.
people like rich probably don't even know what they consume calorie wise and just adjust the hormone's to make their bmr compensate.
They get bigger, period.Bone mass, muscle mass all increase, even in a calorie deficit.
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Haha nice. The guys just your typical get big troll. I guess according to him 3 meals a day will get you to
A solid 250 at 5'8".
2 a day did OK for this guy
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They get bigger, period.Bone mass, muscle mass all increase, overall weight increases even in a calorie deficit.
Do to the fact they are able to utilize what they are consuming better due to increased hornones. This is a stupid debate. You have to eat to grow. There is no magic trick. Some may have be better genetically and put in size easier. But the rule. Not a exception to the rule is it takes food to get big. That's like saying you don't have to eat to get fat it just happens
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2 a day did OK for this guy
(http://sergenubretforever.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/serge-nubrets-diet-posing.jpg)
You pull up one in a million genetic freak. And use that as the rule, that the exception. If that was the case everyone in the gym would be huge and cut millions train don't they? Why is it the only ones that look good have a diet they follow. (I don't believe 2 meal bullshit anyways.)
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Do to the fact they are able to utilize what they are consuming better due to increased hornones. This is a stupid debate. You have to eat to grow. There is no magic trick. Some may have be better genetically and put in size easier. But the rule. Not a exception to the rule is it takes food to get big. That's like saying you don't have to eat to get fat it just happens
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Do to the fact they are able to utilize what they are consuming better due to increased hornones. This is a stupid debate. You have to eat to grow. There is no magic trick. Some may have be better genetically and put in size easier. But the rule. Not a exception to the rule is it takes food to get big. That's like saying you don't have to eat to get fat it just happens
That's not quite true though is it.
Add hormones and it is very easy to grow muscle in a calorie deficit. I would always grow into a show and my weight would usually be higher at 4 weeks out than 12 weeks out.
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You pull up one in a million genetic freak. And use that as the rule, that the exception. If that was the case everyone in the gym would be huge and cut millions train don't they? Why is it the only ones that look good have a diet they follow. (I don't believe 2 meal bullshit anyways.)
As i said earlier your muscle gain is limited by your genetics not how much food you stuff down fat boy.
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That's not quite true though is it.
Add hormones and it is very easy to grow muscle in a calorie deficit. I would always grow into a show and my weight would usually be higher at 4 weeks out than 12 weeks out.
I grow to guess what your not in a colric deficit tell you get way down in low bf levels. If you have 30 or 40 lbs of fat on you which is 100,000+ calories that your body is using as full when your dieting. So your caloric intake maybe be negative to what you are burning. You body is infact not in a caloric defict as a whole. That's how you grow into a show off your own fat reserves. If that was true why don't you never stop growning then right? If you grow in a defict you would explode in a surplus? When you dieted your food and drug timing is on point, cardio, Inslin sensitvites increase, better cleaner fuel (food). Body using fat reserves there are a lot of reasons you can grown the first 4 or 5 weeks into a show
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WHO DO YOU BELIEVE ???
RICH PIANA " THE MASS MONSTER "
OR "THE SKINNY WHITE TWINK"
yes.100 lbs to 235 in 4 years tells me so...
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220 on the left 230 on the right 4 month difference .. What changed?? My food and the amount I've always done aas and the amounts if any have decreased. But hey this is getbig I have proof of what I say. You don't and you look like shit. But in the world that is getbig the dosnt matter
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Without AAS, if you eat big, you get very fat. The majority of Americans show this every day....
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Without AAS, if you eat big, you get very fat. The majority of Americans show this every day....
Absolutely. No question. When we are taking about get muscular big I think we all understand you have to be on aas
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220 on the left 230 on the right 4 month difference .. What changed?? My food and the amount I've always done aas and the amounts if any have decreased. But hey this is getbig I have proof of what I say. You don't and you look like shit. But in the world that is getbig the dosnt matter
Didn't you start gh?
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They get bigger, period.Bone mass, muscle mass all increase, even in a calorie deficit.
ok show me proof of this phenomenon where all forms of body mass increases during puberty in a calorie deficit rather than stating facts without any facts.
doesn't seem like you read my post very well, the body will re partition the energy stored in fat cells to fuel that muscle and bone growth.
the energy still needs to be there.
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I grow to guess what your not in a colric deficit tell you get way down in low bf levels. If you have 30 or 40 lbs of fat on you which is 100,000+ calories that your body is using as full when your dieting. So your caloric intake maybe be negative to what you are burning. You body is infact not in a caloric defict as a whole. That's how you grow into a show off your own fat reserves. If that was true why don't you never stop growning then right? If you grow in a defict you would explode in a surplus? When you dieted your food and drug timing is on point, cardio, Inslin sensitvites increase, better cleaner fuel (food). Body using fat reserves there are a lot of reasons you can grown the first 4 or 5 weeks into a show
And that is exactly why you can gain in a calorific deficit
Jeez, you are arguing against yourself now.
Now, answer me this
If you eat 500 cals a day over your daily requirement which allows you to eat sufficient carbs ,proteins and fats and all your essential micro nutrients what benefit would you get eating another 500?
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You pull up one in a million genetic freak. And use that as the rule, that the exception. If that was the case everyone in the gym would be huge and cut millions train don't they? Why is it the only ones that look good have a diet they follow. (I don't believe 2 meal bullshit anyways.)
Also trained pastel with same diet and nubret was following a diet...
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And that is exactly why you can gain in a calorific deficit
Jeez, you are arguing against yourself now.
Now, answer me this
If you eat 500 cals a day over you daily requirement which allows you to eat sufficient carbs ,proteins and fats and all your essential micro nutrients what benefit would you get eating another 500?
Honestly im not an expert. I can't tell you. But from personal
Experience your body is going to burn caloric intake before fat reserves. I make a surplus and gain fat and muscle. Way more then I ever could just using fat reserves as fuel. In a perfect world id eat exactly what my musckes needed to grow no more no less. But that's impossible so I make a surplus
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Didn't you start gh?
As of yesterday lol 2iu a day. Beast mode lol
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As of yesterday lol 2iu a day. Beast mode lol
I hope it's pharm grade to use such low levels. But good job on the after pic, much more muscle now at the same weight. And fuck this eating twice a day bullshit. Great advice guys, hahaha, whatever... If it were that fuckin' easy idiots, I'd do it like that. You must have wonder genetics to pull that shit off and still look good.
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Honestly im not an expert. I can't tell you. But from personal
Experience your body is going to burn caloric intake before fat reserves. I make a surplus and gain fat and muscle. Way more then I ever could just using fat reserves as fuel. In a perfect world id eat exactly what my musckes needed to grow no more no less. But that's impossible so I make a surplus
Question too hard for you?
Tell me why you have to eat "big" as opposed to just a bit extra?
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I hope it's pharm grade to use such low levels. But good job on the after pic, much more muscle now at the same weight. And fuck this eating twice a day bullshit. Great advice guys, hahaha, whatever... If it were that fuckin' easy idiots, I'd do it like that. You must have wonder genetics to pull that shit off and still look good.
Lol
Stepping it to 5iu. One IU a week increase. What I mean by eating big is I eat 6 cups of rice a day that a fuck ton of food. Calorie wish? I could have one large shake from sonic and fries and have 10x more fat and the same carbs I eat in one day in hat would basically be a snake.. That what I mean by eat big
Speaking of eating. Meal 3 going down lol
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1- One that injects tons of oil and roids ....
2- The other says 90 % of us rather be bulking than cutting .... Id say 95% of us ....
3- Piana uses the F word in every sentence; so he sounds more badass therefore I think he is right .... I'm gonna go eat to get fat , I mean BIG .....I need an excuse to go to the gym and do cardio next to this hot chick that joined last week brb
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Lol
Stepping it to 5iu. One IU a week increase. What I mean by eating big is I eat 6 cups of rice a day that a fuck ton of food. Calorie wish? I could have one large shake from sonic and fries and have 10x more fat and the same carbs I eat in one day in hat would basically be a snake.. That what I mean by eat big
Speaking of eating. Meal 3 going down lol
So how many cals a day over your maintenance are you taking in?
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Lol
Stepping it to 5iu. One IU a week increase. What I mean by eating big is I eat 6 cups of rice a day that a fuck ton of food. Calorie wish? I could have one large shake from sonic and fries and have 10x more fat and the same carbs I eat in one day in hat would basically be a snake.. That what I mean by eat big
Speaking of eating. Meal 3 going down lol
that bowl of rice looks huge, how many carbs in there?
Your remote control has more buttons than mine. Not fair.
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So how many cals a day over your maintenance are you taking in?
Roughly 3500 to 4000. Which is a ton of food if it's clean. The old me could m eat 2000 or 2500 at wendies easy... I come up with big heathy cheats like this take I did on carne asada fries. 10oz top sirloin, 16oz potatoes, 2tbs guacamole and fat free sour cream and chesse. Comes in around 800 cals You did that with real carne asada fries full fat cheese and sour cream and fried fries.. 2000+ easy
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that bowl of rice looks huge, how many carbs in there?
Your remote control has more buttons than mine. Not fair.
A little under 2 cups. 1 3/4 roughly. 80g of carbs
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Roughly 3500 to 4000. Which is a ton of food if it's clean. The old me could m eat 2000 or 2500 at wendies easy... I come up with big heathy cheats like this take I did on carne asada fries. 10oz top sirloin, 16oz potatoes, 2tbs guacamole and fat free sour cream and chesse. Comes in around 800 cals You did that with real carne asada fries full fat cheese and sour cream and fried fries.. 2000+ easy
Over maintenance???????
you are going to be like a fucking balloon.
6 months to diet it all off and be 8lbs heavier onstage next year.
Fucking lol.
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Over maintenance???????
you are going to be like a fucking balloon.
6 months to diet it all off and be 8lbs heavier onstage next year.
Fucking lol.
Missread. Over mainten maybe 500 to 1000. 3000 seems to hold my wieght right on point. That also depend on where those cals come from macro wise
So let me get this straight. You stay under 7% bf year round.. Only 8lbs uh?? 2 to 4 lbs is water. What's your stage weight? Any pics stud. Please shut me up. If you are 220 on stage eating 3 meals a day and stay under 7% year round I'll will be your getbig bitch
If you under 170lbs. Please let the men talk while you can go shop for cloths in the women section
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Missread. Over mainten maybe 500 to 1000. 3000 seems to hold my wieght right on point. That also depend on where those cals come from macro wise
So let me get this straight. You stay under 7% bf year round.. Only 8lbs uh?? 2 to 4 lbs is water. What's your stage weight? Any pics stud. Please shut me up. If you are 220 on stage eating 3 meals a day and stay under 7% year round I'll will be your getbig bitch
If you under 170lbs. Please let the men talk while you can go shop for cloths in the women section
I stay in reasonable shape year round, heres me 10mins ago, just back off a weeks holiday eating anything and no training for 10 days
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Roughly 3500 to 4000. Which is a ton of food if it's clean. The old me could m eat 2000 or 2500 at wendies easy... I come up with big heathy cheats like this take I did on carne asada fries. 10oz top sirloin, 16oz potatoes, 2tbs guacamole and fat free sour cream and chesse. Comes in around 800 cals You did that with real carne asada fries full fat cheese and sour cream and fried fries.. 2000+ easy
3500 over maintenance sounds insanely high regardless of what you're taking
i know guys who've placed overall at national level comp's doing 4000 kcal a day period on 10iu of hgh
is fat gain just not a concern?
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3500 over maintenance sounds insanely high regardless of what you're taking
i know guys who've placed overall at national level comp's doing 4000 kcal a day period on 10iu of hgh
is fat gain just not a concern?
I miss spoken im eating over 500 to 1000. My daily intake is 3500 to 4000
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I miss spoken im eating over 500 to 1000. My daily intake is 3500 to 4000
500 cals is what some people would call a lean bulk .
"Eating big" ::)
I knew you were just trying to talk like a bodybuilder, you shouldnt, most of them are thick as pigshit.
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I stay in reasonable shape year round, heres me 10mins ago, just back off a weeks holiday eating anything and no training for 10 days
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You look great I'll give you credit. We have 2 different goals. I'm trying to grow in to a respectable hw and I have ok genetics not terrible not great. In order for me to do that its gonna take every extra bit of food (in reason) to do it in a year with the right drugs
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500 cals is what some people would call a lean bulk .
"Eating big" ::)
I knew you were just trying to talk like a bodybuilder, you shouldnt, most of them are thick as pigshit.
Lol it does sound toolish
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You look great I'll give you credit. We have 2 different goals. I'm trying to grow in to a respectable hw and I have ok genetics not terrible not great. In order for me to do that its gonna take every extra bit of food (in reason) to do it in a year with the right drugs
Its genetics that dictate if you are going to be a decent heavyweight, not loads of extra food, and TBH you are not eating that much with 500 cals over.
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I only got measureable results when i upped my protein intake, when on steroids. Just steroids and normal food intake didn't get me anywhere. Consistent high protein intake always made the difference in my case, not "upping the dose" like everyone claims.
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Its genetics that dictate if you are going to be a decent heavyweight, not loads of extra food, and TBH you are not eating that much with 500 cals over.
I say that's as a guess as my last meal I just eat as much as I comfortably can and don't usually measure it. So it could be well over 1000 some days other under that
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I only got measureable results when i upped my protein intake, when on steroids. Just steroids and normal food intake didn't get me anywhere. Consistent high protein intake always made the difference in my case, not "upping the dose" like everyone claims.
Adequate protein doesnt mean a lot of excess calories.
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I say that's as a guess as my last meal I just eat as much as I comfortably can and don't usually measure it. So it could be well over 1000 some days other under that
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Haha no wait I mevtioned before my end of the day clean chest I don't measure
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Eat big = get fat!
Then diet, and get small again!
Eat big dosent give you any more muscle, it only makes you fat! Then u need 6months to diet and then lose all the "muscles" you thought you had!
It generally take 20 years for people to realise this!
Eat normal and train. It will give u dense quality muscles progression!
Strive for maxium waist biceps ratio all the time!
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Adequate protein doesnt mean a lot of excess calories.
Here is one thing I honestly don't know. Why is protein the only macro that I hear is limited on how much the body can absorb in one time. As far as I'm aware carbs and fat don't work like that. I'm sure there is a point that your body isn't gonna use 500g of carbs in one sitting. But I hear numbers like only 40g of protein per meal seems unlikely
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Here is one thing I honestly don't know. Why is protein the only macro that I hear is limited on how much the body can absorb in one time. As far as I'm aware carbs and fat don't work like that. I'm sure there is a point that your body isn't gonna use 500g of carbs in one sitting. But I hear numbers like only 40g of protein per meal seems unlikely
Your body shits out loads of calories, it doesnt absorb all the nutrients you take in.
"The corn", proves this.
If you are shitting 3 times a day you are eating too much food
Shit is the food you ate that the body didnt need.
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Eat big = get fat!
Then diet, and get small again!
Eat big dosent give you any more muscle, it only makes you fat! Then u need 6months to diet and then lose all the "muscles" you thought you had!
It generally take 20 years for people to realise this!
Eat normal and train. It will give u dense quality muscles progression!
Strive for maxium waist biceps ratio all the time!
exactly
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Eat big = get fat!
Then diet, and get small again!
Eat big dosent give you any more muscle, it only makes you fat! Then u need 6months to diet and then lose all the "muscles" you thought you had!
It generally take 20 years for people to realise this!
Eat normal and train. It will give u dense quality muscles progression!
Strive for maxium waist biceps ratio all the time!
bingo! The problem is the "new" big is out of control. No one was ever supposed to be 5'8 250 and 5%!
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Here is one thing I honestly don't know. Why is protein the only macro that I hear is limited on how much the body can absorb in one time. As far as I'm aware carbs and fat don't work like that. I'm sure there is a point that your body isn't gonna use 500g of carbs in one sitting. But I hear numbers like only 40g of protein per meal seems unlikely
This is bro science at its best. Protein assimilation is what people refer to as "genetics". Steroids are nothing more than ways to increase this assimilation.
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.......yes. It's great when you're in your teens, 20's and 30's but not when you hit your 40's and 50's even if you are still competing. Health starts playing a roll as you age.
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Eat big = get fat!
Then diet, and get small again!
Eat big dosent give you any more muscle, it only makes you fat! Then u need 6months to diet and then lose all the "muscles" you thought you had!
It generally take 20 years for people to realise this!
Eat normal and train. It will give u dense quality muscles progression!
Strive for maxium waist biceps ratio all the time!
QUOTED FOR FUCKING TRUTH !!!
PROBLABLY THE GREATEST NUTRITION POST IN GETBIG HYSTORY !!! ;)
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do you need to shit big to be a big shit
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QUOTED FOR FUCKING TRUTH !!!
PROBLABLY THE GREATEST NUTRITION POST IN GETBIG HYSTORY !!! ;)
Lol....oh boy.
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What does Big Lenny think?
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Looks like he's been eating big for all of us, bro...