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Title: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 05, 2015, 07:11:57 AM
Would have kicked the shit out of Mayweather if he was healthy

http://www.foxsports.com/boxing/story/manny-pacquiao-to-have-shoulder-surgery-after-loss-to-floyd-mayweather-could-be-disciplined-for-not-disclosing-injury-050415?cmpid=tsmfb%3Afscom%3Afoxsports
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 05, 2015, 07:13:55 AM
Nah, Mayweather would have still danced and countered the entire match.  He is just a little quicker than pac
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: devilsmile on May 05, 2015, 07:16:55 AM
talk about discipline. And money.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Simple Simon on May 05, 2015, 07:23:58 AM
Disciplined?

What they going to do, make him stand in a corner?
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: d0nny2600 on May 05, 2015, 07:42:05 AM
Disciplined?

What they going to do, make him stand in a corner?
He has to stand on the naughty step for 10 minutes
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: SuperTed on May 05, 2015, 07:48:24 AM
 ::)

Could have been worse. He could have had a broken toe.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: BDsauce on May 05, 2015, 08:09:45 AM
Coach should work with Pacquaio

Pacquaio could totally benefit from flipping tires....
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: King Shizzo on May 05, 2015, 09:41:44 AM
Coach should work with Pacquaio

Pacquaio could totally benefit from flipping tires....
Coach already worked with Pacquaio. He trained him for the last Marquez fight.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 05, 2015, 09:44:50 AM
Would have kicked the shit out of Mayweather if he was healthy

http://www.foxsports.com/boxing/story/manny-pacquiao-to-have-shoulder-surgery-after-loss-to-floyd-mayweather-could-be-disciplined-for-not-disclosing-injury-050415?cmpid=tsmfb%3Afscom%3Afoxsports


Would've, Could've, Should've.....but didn't ::)
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Howard on May 05, 2015, 09:48:52 AM
Would have kicked the shit out of Mayweather if he was healthy

http://www.foxsports.com/boxing/story/manny-pacquiao-to-have-shoulder-surgery-after-loss-to-floyd-mayweather-could-be-disciplined-for-not-disclosing-injury-050415?cmpid=tsmfb%3Afscom%3Afoxsports

Yes and I would have been a major porn star if I had a bigger dick.

Life is, what it is.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: blacken700 on May 05, 2015, 10:14:44 AM
Would have kicked the shit out of Mayweather if he was healthy

http://www.foxsports.com/boxing/story/manny-pacquiao-to-have-shoulder-surgery-after-loss-to-floyd-mayweather-could-be-disciplined-for-not-disclosing-injury-050415?cmpid=tsmfb%3Afscom%3Afoxsports

did you watch the fight :o pac man couldn't even hit him he was schooled the whole night long
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: 240 is Back on May 05, 2015, 10:18:44 AM
Colin Cowherd called it today - they leak this because now everyone will pay for the Rematch PPV.

"but but manny COULD have won...."

They had no problem defrauding the public signing a contract saying he was healthy, but they'd NEVER fib about an injury in order to get another $400 mil payday lol...
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 05, 2015, 10:35:27 AM
Colin Cowherd called it today - they leak this because now everyone will pay for the Rematch PPV.

"but but manny COULD have won...."

They had no problem defrauding the public signing a contract saying he was healthy, but they'd NEVER fib about an injury in order to get another $400 mil payday lol...

The rule is you get in the ring, it is assumed you are healthy. You lose, it is because you were outboxed. I have no respect for fighters who announce some excuse AFTER they lose ..
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Simple Simon on May 05, 2015, 10:42:26 AM
Didn't Holyfield separate his shoulder fighting Moorer, fought 10 rounds with one arm almost?
Didn't bitch and moan after the fight.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: BB on May 05, 2015, 10:51:23 AM
Colin Cowherd called it today - they leak this because now everyone will pay for the Rematch PPV.


If they do fight again it would have to be a regular PPView, not anything as grandiose as this first one (which I doubt Floyd would go for) . This last one burnt most folks out. Pacquiao / Mayweather will never be Frazier / Ali or anything close, that ship has long since sailed.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: 240 is Back on May 05, 2015, 11:04:18 AM
If they do fight again it would have to be a regular PPView, not anything as grandiose as this first one (which I doubt Floyd would go for) . This last one burnt most folks out. Pacquiao / Mayweather will never be Frazier / Ali or anything close, that ship has long since sailed.

Coach completely lives sports, training, and is very wise and experienced with top athletes, MMA and other fields.

All it takes is "leak from anonymous sources about an injury" for him to completely sway to the fantasy that an off-GH, has-been like Manny could beat the technical prowess of the ignorant idiot that is money mayweather.

So if Coach is ramped up for a rematch and convinced of it, after one headline, imagine the average uninformed fight viewer.  Most of them will jump all over it.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: residue on May 05, 2015, 11:19:06 AM
isn't this tantamount to perjury? if he knowingly deceived the Nevada boxing commission
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: LittleJ on May 05, 2015, 11:43:05 AM
Yes and I would have been a major porn star if I had a bigger dick.

Life is, what it is.

How big is your dick?
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Pork_Chop on May 05, 2015, 12:06:01 PM
Pacman and his fans are pathetic.

Rather than pay his conquerer his dues and admit the better man won and accept his defeat graciously, he has bitched and moaned, saying 'he won' in the ring, then quickly said the reason he lost was because of a shoulder injury.

He backs out of their orignal fight because he is 'scared of needles'

Then blames his defeat because they 'wouldn't allow him his needles'.

Mayweather's style can send a glass eye to sleep, but he is a master of the sweet science and pitched a defensive shutout of Pacquiao.

You know that moment when a Mayweather fight becomes boring? it's when he's in FULL control of it.

THE END

Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Tedim on May 05, 2015, 12:09:01 PM
Would have kicked the shit out of Mayweather if he was healthy

http://www.foxsports.com/boxing/story/manny-pacquiao-to-have-shoulder-surgery-after-loss-to-floyd-mayweather-could-be-disciplined-for-not-disclosing-injury-050415?cmpid=tsmfb%3Afscom%3Afoxsports

its his right arm....Mannys a south paw, what his jab was affected? LOL
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Parker on May 05, 2015, 12:24:28 PM
Coach, where's your Aristotle? Remember how he ran logical circles around the Megarians? In any case, your use of the counterfactual conditional is too strong. You seem committed to a rigid counterfactual ontology which denies a possible world where your statement is false.
You Oh-nassis, you...
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Nails on May 05, 2015, 02:42:38 PM


They wanna Hit manny with a Class Action Lawsuit LMFAO!



http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-sn-pacquiao-mayweather-lawsuit-shoulder-20150505-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-sn-pacquiao-mayweather-lawsuit-shoulder-20150505-story.html)


Class-action lawsuit filed against Manny Pacquiao, Top Rank


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Manny Pacquiao’s attorney said Tuesday he intends to move to dismiss what he describes as a “frivolous” class-action lawsuit filed against the boxer and his primary handlers in Nevada by two Las Vegas residents.

As first reported by ESPN’s Darren Rovell, the lawsuit seeks in excess of $5 million from Pacquiao, his manager Michael Koncz and his promoter, Top Rank Inc., for allegedly fraudulently covering up Pacquiao’s right shoulder injury before his Saturday night loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

The lawsuit, according to Rovell, alleges that the parties failed to disclose the injury to the Nevada State Athletic Commission and worked to keep it secret from fans who paid a minimum $2,500 to attend the fight in person and $99.95 to watch a high-definition broadcast of Saturday’s pay-per-view bout.

Privately, key members of Pacquiao’s team said Sunday that they feared such a move would come, one saying, “people will sue over anything.”

Pay-per-view sales should be in excess of $300 million and Las Vegas bookmakers told The Times last week that an estimated $50 million to $80 million would be bet on the bout, with slight underdog Pacquiao a popular wager despite the largest wagers being on Mayweather.

The lawsuit, according to Rovell, alleges that the defendants “had full knowledge and information that defendant Pacquiao had been seriously injured and was suffering from a torn rotator cuff,” and they knew “that such injury would severely affect his performance.”

In a document obtained by The Times on Monday, Pacquiaio and Koncz signed a Nevada State Athletic Commission medical form at Friday’s weigh-in that had “no” checked next to a question asking if the boxer had suffered a shoulder injury.

The form also included notes that Pacquiao could take the anti-inflammatory prescription injection Toradol, which commission chairman Francisco Aguilar stopped Pacquiao from taking before the fight.

Pacquiao suffered a right shoulder injury while sparring April 4 and received a cortisone injection April 6, according to a member of his training team, and rested the arm until he felt better.


Pacquiao said the shoulder was functioning at 60% before the fight, and that he believed the pre-fight injection that was never given would provide him a full range of motion.

Instead, he said he reaggravated the injury throwing effective combinations in the fourth round, and Mayweather proceeded to win by unanimous decision, by scores of 118-110, 116-112, 116-112.

On Monday, Koncz reported that Pacquiao will undergo shoulder surgery in Los Angeles this week and will be sidelined an estimated four-to-six months, with a more thorough diagnosis coming from doctors following the surgery.

Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum said Monday that he could not answer why the injury box was checked no. Aguilar said since the medical form was signed under the penalty of perjury, he's asked the Nevada attorney general to assess the situation, given the gravity of a fight that will shatter boxing revenue records.

Pacquiao attorney Daniel Petrocelli told The Times on Tuesday that he expects the lawsuit “will be dismissed,” because it makes claims that are not true.

“It claims Pacquiao was injured [immediately] before the bout and that’s not true — he was injured [nearly a month] before the bout, was examined by doctors and cleared to fight,” Petrocelli said. “And he was examined by the commission right before he fought.”

Aguilar said he ordered Pacquiao to throw right-handed punches in his dressing room before letting the bout proceed.

“We haven’t been served yet, but when we are, we’ll file a motion to dismiss or a summary judgment motion,” Petrocelli said.   

Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Nails on May 05, 2015, 04:49:01 PM
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/people-are-furious-with-hbos-max-kellerman-for-grilling-manny-pacquiao (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/people-are-furious-with-hbos-max-kellerman-for-grilling-manny-pacquiao)


   
People are furious with HBO's Max Kellerman for grilling Manny Pacquiao



Floyd Mayweather beat Manny Pacquiao by unanimous decision Saturday night in a fight that arguably didn’t live up to the overwhelming hype. Pacquiao revealed after the fight that he suffered a shoulder injury in training that limited him, and the usually aggressive boxer actually threw fewer punches than Mayweather over the course of the fight. There was little doubt among the commentators and analysts that Mayweather had won, but Pacquiao stunned HBO’s Max Kellerman in the ring by saying that he believes he won.


Kellerman: He had to be hitting you with something because you weren’t attacking him with the same kind of ferocity that we sometimes see you attack. We he not doing something to keep you off?

Pacquiao: Yeah I mean, I got him many times. I saw the punches…. I thought I won the fight.

Kellerman: We didn’t ringside, the judges didn’t. Right from the outset in the first round, he seemed to be able to you to fight at his pace. You usually throw a lot of punches, you didn’t throw as many punches right from the beginning. Why?

Pacquiao: He’s moving around. He’s moving around. It’s not easy to throw a lot of punches if [he’s] moving around. But if he stayed I can throw a lot of punches.

Kellerman: So you’re saying you thought you were up in the fight, that’s why maybe you didn’t attack him, you didn’t step up the pace even more in the 11th and 12th rounds?

Pacquiao: Yes

Kellerman: Manny, because ringside I thought I had him winning pretty wide, it seemed to me that his size was giving you some trouble. He’s a bigger fighter than you. Was he able to use his size against you?

Pacquiao: No, he’s not bigger than me, it’s not about the size. The size doesn’t matter. I’ve been fighting bigger than him, and nothing problem.


Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: jude2 on May 05, 2015, 09:00:18 PM
I would love to see people get a refund for this shit fight.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: 240 is Back on May 06, 2015, 04:24:50 AM
something like THIS is how mayweather goes from being worth $400 mil to OWING $20 mil inside of 2 years.

Some sort of massive lawsuit, with him owning the entertainment company.  If it were to come out that the fight was a fraud, that his team knew Pac was injured.

Might be better to just accept a paycheck and none of that responsibility.  His need to control, own, collect on everything means he accepts all of that responsibility too.  Just a paid fighter, and let the mgmt company accept guilt here.  if/when mayweather goes down, it'll be due to greed, and it'll be on a very big and fast scale.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: Simple Simon on May 06, 2015, 05:57:02 AM
something like THIS is how mayweather goes from being worth $400 mil to OWING $20 mil inside of 2 years.

Some sort of massive lawsuit, with him owning the entertainment company.  If it were to come out that the fight was a fraud, that his team knew Pac was injured.

Might be better to just accept a paycheck and none of that responsibility.  His need to control, own, collect on everything means he accepts all of that responsibility too.  Just a paid fighter, and let the mgmt company accept guilt here.  if/when mayweather goes down, it'll be due to greed, and it'll be on a very big and fast scale.

Holyfield made more money than he could ever spend, if you read his book he talks about he finds it crazy than boxers can end up broke.
He even said just put a couple of million in an account and forget about it in case it all goes wrong.

These guys are only ever paper millionaires, they never accumilate wealth.
Title: Re: Shoulder injury was legit
Post by: SuperTed on May 06, 2015, 06:07:41 AM
Pacman and his fans are pathetic.

Rather than pay his conquerer his dues and admit the better man won and accept his defeat graciously, he has bitched and moaned, saying 'he won' in the ring, then quickly said the reason he lost was because of a shoulder injury.

He backs out of their orignal fight because he is 'scared of needles'

Then blames his defeat because they 'wouldn't allow him his needles'.

Mayweather's style can send a glass eye to sleep, but he is a master of the sweet science and pitched a defensive shutout of Pacquiao.

You know that moment when a Mayweather fight becomes boring? it's when he's in FULL control of it.

THE END



This.