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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: RJ DRIVER on May 23, 2015, 04:31:47 PM
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Im actually a fan of PJ. He seems like a fun dude to hang out with but is he full of shit? Go to the 10:15 mark of the video. He says that he had 257 clients and he was charging $1,700 per contest. So he was making $430k plus off of coaching? Is that a legit number? I just can't imagine that he was making that kind of money from that. Anyways maybe I'm wrong, flame away!
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Someone from Getbig will forward that video to PJ's local IRS...
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Im actually a fan of PJ. He seems like a fun dude to hang out with but is he full of shit? Go to the 10:15 mark of the video. He says that he had 257 clients and he was charging $1,700 per contest. So he was making $430k plus off of coaching? Is that a legit number? I just can't imagine that he was making that kind of money from that. Anyways maybe I'm wrong, flame away!
Only if the drug cycles were included.
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If by "it", you mean cock, then yes. Yes he is full of "it"
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Has anyone here every tried their products? I bet their most common consumer is under the age of 21...
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I have a vid of this chick 😈
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Has anyone here every tried their products? I bet their most common consumer is under the age of 21...
They had a bunch of them in the "clearance section" on a site I like to use from time to time. Never got any.
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Those who brag the most...
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I have a vid of this chick 😈
post it
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Well, pj braun finally has a fan
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post it
I'm afraid I'd get sued lol
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Both PJ and Aaron are down to earth guys who excel in business and deserve everything they earn.
THE BEEF loves their success stories and recalls how Carl Lenore (the host of Super Human Radio ) shit on Aaron during their last broadcast making public issues which Aaron asked to have remain confidential. THE BEEF smiles as Aaron and PJ grow in leaps and bounds despite what naysayers think or have tried to affect on them.
Two top drawer young professionals who are living the American dream.
God bless them.
THE BEEF
P.S. Hope Carl knows exactly how successful Aaron is . . . if you read this my cyber friend, buy some add space from Carl just to say " fuck you." (TB)
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go figure she wanted to get serious with him only when he started to be successfull ::) real love my ass
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Both PJ and Aaron are down to earth guys who excel in business and deserve everything they earn.
THE BEEF loves their success stories and recalls how Carl Lenore (the host of Super Human Radio ) shit on Aaron during their last broadcast making public issues which Aaron asked to have remain confidential. THE BEEF smiles as Aaron and PJ grow in leaps and bounds despite what naysayers think or have tried to affect on them.
Two top drawer young professionals who are living the American dream.
God bless them.
THE BEEF
P.S. Hope Carl knows exactly how successful Aaron is . . . if you read this my cyber friend, buy some add space from Carl just to say " fuck you." (TB)
this..and oj has a great ass
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PJ "Fruitcake" Braun's new ride
(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/Q42z8Kcjn1quvLMWrgUt5g--/YXBwaWQ9bWFnYXppbmVzO3c9ODAw/https://s.yimg.com/os/en-US/cms/autos/Boldride/boso.jpg)
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Although I get bothered when people brag about their wealth, PJ has a pretty fucking awesome life. It's good to be him, that's for dam sure.
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Those who brag the most...
This. The flashiest people are usually actually the least financially sound, and are often crooks to boot. Most people who don't know better will assume someone is doing great when they see all of the flashy, expensive stuff, and will often buy into whatever they're selling or "invest" in their scams or whatever.
Ask to see their audited financial statements, tax returns, the deeds to their homes, the titles to their cars, their SEP IRA's, brokerage and bank accounts, etc next time they ask you to "invest" or tell you how "rich" they are. ::)
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Im actually a fan of PJ. He seems like a fun dude to hang out with but is he full of shit? Go to the 10:15 mark of the video. He says that he had 257 clients and he was charging $1,700 per contest. So he was making $430k plus off of coaching? Is that a legit number? I just can't imagine that he was making that kind of money from that. Anyways maybe I'm wrong, flame away!
You're mixing both of them in. PJ may have that many clients but not all of them are paying 1700 for a contest. Some of his services like nutritional assessments are 300.00 or online personal training
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You're mixing both of them in. PJ may have that many clients but not all of them are paying 1700 for a contest. Some of his services like nutritional assessments are 300.00 or online personal training
Sounds reasonable but I personally have no idea what PJ makes?
I know he's a media savvy, self promoter, so I'd always take what says with a grain of salt.
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Sounds reasonable but I personally have no idea what PJ makes?
I know he's a media savvy, self promoter, so I'd always take what says with a grain of salt.
He no longer trains clients actively....just a select few. I would guess that PJ is making about 750-900k a year currently.
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This. The flashiest people are usually actually the least financially sound, and are often crooks to boot. Most people who don't know better will assume someone is doing great when they see all of the flashy, expensive stuff, and will often buy into whatever they're selling or "invest" in their scams or whatever.
Ask to see their audited financial statements, tax returns, the deeds to their homes, the titles to their cars, their SEP IRA's, brokerage and bank accounts, etc next time they ask you to "invest" or tell you how "rich" they are. ::)
How's Autozone treating you these days?
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He no longer trains clients actively....just a select few. I would guess that PJ is making about 750-900k a year currently.
Out of pure curiosity Melvin Goodrum, how would you know how much PJ makes?
How would someone like yourself have access to such privileged info?
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he is not making as much as bodybuilder carrot top, thats for sure
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he is not making as much as bodybuilder carrot top, thats for sure
Or Bodybuilder Arnolf Schwartzenheimer either.
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If pj becomes terminally ill or his company shuts down I hope his wife doesn't leave him
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If pj becomes terminally ill or his company shuts down I hope his wife doesn't leave him
lolllllllllllllllll
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Out of pure curiosity Melvin Goodrum, how would you know how much PJ makes?
How would someone like yourself have access to such privileged info?
Its a guess I'm making based upon the amount of revenue coming in......it could be anything. I do know that they are both doing exceptionally well. When you're flying first or business class on every single flight, driving exotic rides, and living in a half million dollar house without so much as a blink then you are obviously making good money.
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Its a guess I'm making based upon the amount of revenue coming in......it could be anything. I do know that they are both doing exceptionally well. When you're flying first or business class on every single flight, driving exotic rides, and living in a half million dollar house without so much as a blink then you are obviously making good money.
Oh Melvin Goodrum, you're such a total & utter simpleton.
So you're admitting that you pulled that number out of your ass to look like an insider, where you have no actual clue as to how much anyone in that company makes.
Appearances mean nothing to a company's bottom line.
Some people make a little money & taste a little success & they begin to think it's forever & get silly with their finances.
Anyone who's had a company for a short period & is flying 1st class, leasing exotic cars & pretending to own it, continuously bragging about their wealth is most likely trying to give the illusion of extreme success as a form of braggadocio or advertising for their company. I'd say in this case, a little of both.
Either way, although you desperately want to pretend to be an inside, you have no clue as what Aaron & PJ actually do, make, plan etc.
You're just their dancing forum monkey, nothing more.
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Oh Melvin Goodrum, you're such a total & utter simpleton.
So you're admitting that you pulled that number out of your ass to look like an insider, where you have no actual clue as to how much anyone in that company makes.
Appearances mean nothing to a company's bottom line.
Some people make a little money & taste a little success & they begin to think it's forever & get silly with their finances.
Anyone who's had a company for a short period & is flying 1st class, leasing exotic cars & pretending to own it, continuously bragging about their wealth is most likely trying to give the illusion of extreme success as a form of braggadocio or advertising for their company. I'd say in this case, a little of both.
Either way, although you desperately want to pretend to be an inside, you have no clue as what Aaron & PJ actually do, make, plan etc.
You're just their dancing forum monkey, nothing more.
I don't speak to PJ hardly, more to Aaron. However, you keep forgetting that I run my own company and I am not an employee for Blackstone Labs or Prime Nutrition.
While you are correct on some people pretending....I know exactly what they are doing and what they are planning and its something I've been preaching about for a decade. Soon everyone will bare witness to a refutation of the bodybuilding industry. Wait and see is all I can say. I promise you that it will make Palumbo's head explode.
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I don't speak to PJ hardly, more to Aaron. However, you keep forgetting that I run my own company and I am not an employee for Blackstone Labs or Prime Nutrition.
While you are correct on some people pretending....I know exactly what they are doing and what they are planning and its something I've been preaching about for a decade. Soon everyone will bare witness to a refutation of the bodybuilding industry. Wait and see is all I can say. I promise you that it will make Palumbo's head explode.
Oh Melvin Goodrum, you're so easily swayed by sweet song & shiny trinkets.
Aaron tells you nothing. He just tells you what he wants you to spew on the forums, since you're the company forum dancing monkey.
You're used as a hype machine & you're not privy to anything of importance. You're damaged goods & no sane businessman would trust you with insider info.
They throw you a bone & you dance dance dance as they use & laugh at you behind your back.
As for owing & running your own companies. Please, no one buys that crap anymore. You own a bunch of dormant websites that make virtually nothing. That's why you work at menial labor go no where dead end jobs to pay the bills.
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As easy as it may be to poke fun at PJ and Aaron, I respect their drive and willingness to go for success. A lot of us would love to own our own businesses but never give it our full effort.
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As easy as it may be to poke fun at PJ and Aaron, I respect their drive and willingness to go for success. A lot of us would love to own our own businesses but never give it our full effort.
The majority of people who bad mouth PJ & Aaron do it out of pure jealousy.
No one really knows how much actual success they're attained except Aaron & PJ, but it's very clear that they are doing well & on the road to doing better.
All the bragging, exotic cars etc is just advertising. They're trying to show the illusion of mega success to make people think the products are mega successful & that's smart.
It's not a long term advertising strategy, but for the beginning, it's getting people's attention & that's what they were after.
They're doing better than 99% of the people out there is the BB industry.
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Oh Melvin Goodrum, you're such a total & utter simpleton.
So you're admitting that you pulled that number out of your ass to look like an insider, where you have no actual clue as to how much anyone in that company makes.
Appearances mean nothing to a company's bottom line.
Some people make a little money & taste a little success & they begin to think it's forever & get silly with their finances.
Anyone who's had a company for a short period & is flying 1st class, leasing exotic cars & pretending to own it, continuously bragging about their wealth is most likely trying to give the illusion of extreme success as a form of braggadocio or advertising for their company. I'd say in this case, a little of both.
Either way, although you desperately want to pretend to be an inside, you have no clue as what Aaron & PJ actually do, make, plan etc.
You're just their dancing forum monkey, nothing more.
Exactly, these guys are desperate to prove how "successful" they are. Truth is they are very insecure. People with real wealth don't brag or flaunt it. They would be wise to be investing their money back into their company but sadly they would rather fly first class. I know CEO's of much bigger companies that don't fly first class or drive fancy cars because they don't need to prove to everyone that they are successful.
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If pj becomes terminally ill or his company shuts down I hope his wife doesn't leaves him for me.
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Ultimately, it's PJ & Aaron's company & they should do whatever they want to do.
However, it's quite clear that their game plan is to show extreme wealth & success via leased exotic cars, pics of their new homes, hiring Melvin Goodrum to spew none sense about how PJ makes almost $1 million a year etc.
It's the King Kamali scenario all over again where he got a lot of attention with his actions when he hit the scene, but when that got old, he had to walk the walk & he just couldn't back up his actions & faded away & is now a forum joke & a PT.
Will this happen to PJ & Aaron? Who knows, but my guess is that it's all smoke & mirrors for now & a clever advertising ploy to garner immediate hype & attention.
Either way, they're doing well & that definitely counts for something.
They did better in their 1st month than Melvin Goodrum has done in over a decade.
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Ultimately, it's PJ & Aaron's company & they should do whatever they want to do.
However, it's quite clear that their game plan is to show extreme wealth & success via leased exotic cars, pics of their new homes, hiring Melvin Goodrum to spew none sense about how PJ makes almost $1 million a year etc.
It's the King Kamali scenario all over again where he got a lot of attention with his actions when he hit the scene, but when that got old, he had to walk the walk & he just couldn't back up his actions & faded away & is now a forum joke & a PT.
Will this happen to PJ & Aaron? Who knows, but my guess is that it's all smoke & mirrors for now & a clever advertising ploy to garner immediate hype & attention.
Either way, they're doing well & that definitely counts for something.
They did better in their 1st month than Melvin Goodrum has done in over a decade.
You are already helping me do my job Qwert. You're just simply too stupid to figure that out. I used to advise both of them to cut down the luxury items until they got things off the ground....its simply no longer the case for the two.
I will have to say that I am still somewhat humiliated, and shocked at how fast things went for them. Not even 3 years ago they had nothing more than 2 pallets of supplements in a garage and their office was in PJ's guest bedroom. They accomplished in that amount of time what I couldn't do, what Dave Palumbo couldn't do, and what the vast majority of the IFBB pros could not do...being Jay, Ronnie, Dexter, Kevin, Phil Heath, etc....and that does suck but now I'm using the same techniques in social media to promote my company.
That's how things work, rather than being jealous and accusing people of nefarious activities, I learn what they do and apply it to my own life.
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You are already helping me do my job Qwert. You're just simply too stupid to figure that out. I used to advise both of them to cut down the luxury items until they got things off the ground....its simply no longer the case for the two.
I will have to say that I am still somewhat humiliated, and shocked at how fast things went for them. Not even 3 years ago they had nothing more than 2 pallets of supplements in a garage and their office was in PJ's guest bedroom. They accomplished in that amount of time what I couldn't do, what Dave Palumbo couldn't do, and what the vast majority of the IFBB pros could not do...being Jay, Ronnie, Dexter, Kevin, Phil Heath, etc....and that does suck but now I'm using the same techniques in social media to promote my company.
That's how things work, rather than being jealous and accusing people of nefarious activities, I learn what they do and apply it to my own life.
Lord o' mighty Melvin Goodrum. The day anyone with 1/2 a business brain takes your 'advices' is the day you get a full time job paying more than minimum wage.
The thing is Melvin Goodrum, you have never had a successful business, so you really have no idea how one is run.
PJ & Aaron most likely aren't making any where near what they pretend to make, hence the constant bragging & flashing.
IMO, they leased an exotic car & pretended to own it & then before the year was up, supposedly sold it. No smart businessman does that. They lease, not buy. It was a silly move, but I think it paid off in spades as it got people talking about them & showed the illusion of extreme success. They're going for a newbie market anyway & these people are easily impressed by flash.
Will the business keep going up up & away? Who knows. I hope they succeed as they both seem like decent enough guys, but once the flash dies down, they have to live & die by their products, & that's where it gets hard. Especially since a lot of their supps could get banned at any time due to their nature.
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I know CEO's of much bigger companies that don't fly first class or drive fancy cars because they don't need to prove to everyone that they are successful.
Qwert killing it in this thread!
To the above point: the CEO's you're referring to i am assuming are not in the social promo business, like supplements/ bb are.
I know a very wealthy company president who drives an old pick up truck and lives in a 2 brdm home....yet has a weekly employee payroll of $500k. His business is NOT in The public eye hence no need to portray wealth and status.
PJ is doing it right and poeple will flock...like Qwert said, short term marketing strategy.
Eventually word gets out about your actual products and they have to stand on their own merit
Right now the product is Pj and the circus around him
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Qwert killing it in this thread!
To the above point: the CEO's you're referring to i am assuming are not in the social promo business, like supplements/ bb are.
I know a very wealthy company president who drives an old pick up truck and lives in a 2 brdm home....yet has a weekly employee payroll of $500k. His business is NOT in The public eye hence no need to portray wealth and status.
PJ is doing it right and poeple will flock...like Qwert said, short term marketing strategy.
Eventually word gets out about your actual products and they have to stand on their own merit
Right now the product is Pj and the circus around him
Qwert is only showing his stupidity in this thread. I'm curious as to what he does for a living since he THINK he knows about business.
Again, there definitely is a longtime strategy and one that people will find out soon
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Qwert is only showing his stupidity in this thread. I'm curious as to what he does for a living since he THINK he knows about business.
Again, there definitely is a longtime strategy and one that people will find out soon
Oh Melvin Goodrum, you're so simple minded & unidirectional that you have no idea what is really happening....as usual.
You've had countless businesses for over a decade that have all failed to secure you a living. Hence dead end menial labor jobs.
You only see the flash & try to get close to PJ & Aaron in the hope that their seemingly extreme success somehow rubs of on yo,u but everyone, except yourself, knows that they just laugh at you & use you to their advantage. However, since you'd sell your soul & dignity for a wooden nickel, & have many times, you're probably OK with that.
Do they have a legit feasible long term plan? Who knows. But one thing is for certain, YOU won't be privy to that info. You're the BB forum's laughing stock & have been for over a decade. Successful bsuinessmen do not share this kind of sensitive info with peons.
As for my profession? Who knows. You or anyone on a BB forum will certainly never know either. You see Melvin Goodrum, only a fool who is looking for attention or self promotion will talk about such things in an open forum, especially one that has nothing to do with their business.
I doubt if you will fathom this, as you are the exact opposite of me in EVERY way imaginable.
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How's Autozone treating you these days?
Quite well. One of a hundred or so long stock positions I have these days.
]http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/AZO/quote.html] (http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/AZO/quote.html)
They're doing much better than GM, which I've been short on the last couple of months - which has also been good for me. ;)
]http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/GM/quote.html] (http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/GM/quote.html)
Here's a hint for you. If you ever see the CEO of Exxon, or Warren Buffett or Tim Cook on tv or the internet carrying on like some Ric Flair wannabe talking about how big their mansion is and their cars and gold, you can assume that he's lost his mind and will soon lose his job. Or if he's the majority shareholder like Harold Hamm and he's acting that way, sell your shares and short the stock.
I used to turn away guys like this who wanted loans years ago when I worked in lending. They told me lots about their cars, gold, etc. But they were usually full of shit about their "business plans" and usually had bad credit. Any small company that buys "company cars" for $500k a pop for its "executives" won't be around long. Hope that helps ;)
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In all my travels, every time I've seen a brand new business start spend money on fluff & show, it usually means A: The owners are idiots who got lucky & have no idea what to do...or B: They're trying to show the illusion of mega success & in fact, the company is not doing that well.
Which one is it for PJ & Aaron? I don't know. Possibly a bit of A & a lot of B. But really, only they know for sure.
It goes without saying that their glitter & gold scheme is paying off for the people they're trying to impress, i.e. the Melvin Goodrums of the world who get mesmerized with shiny beads & flashing lights.
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Quite well. One of a hundred or so long stock positions I have these days.
]http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/AZO/quote.html] (http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/AZO/quote.html)
They're doing much better than GM, which I've been short on the last couple of months - which has also been good for me. ;)
]http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/GM/quote.html] (http://www.morningstar.com/stocks/XNYS/GM/quote.html)
Here's a hint for you. If you ever see the CEO of Exxon, or Warren Buffett or Tim Cook on tv or the internet carrying on like some Ric Flair wannabe talking about how big their mansion is and their cars and gold, you can assume that he's lost his mind and will soon lose his job. Or if he's the majority shareholder like Harold Hamm and he's acting that way, sell your shares and short the stock.
I used to turn away guys like this who wanted loans years ago when I worked in lending. They told me lots about their cars, gold, etc. But they were usually full of shit about their "business plans" and usually had bad credit. Any small company that buys "company cars" for $500k a pop for its "executives" won't be around long. Hope that helps ;)
I don't see them doing nothing different than Floyd Mayweather, Jay Z, Dan Bilzerian, etc. Its part of promoting the business. Having a Ferrari emblazed on the back with a Blackstone Labs logo is an example....along with a nice tax write-off for advertising the business.
Its effective marketing obviously because people are hating on it 24/7.
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In all my travels, every time I've seen a brand new business start spend money on fluff & show, it usually means A. The owners are idiots who got lucky & have no idea what to do, or B. They're trying to show the illusion of mega success & in fact, the company is not doing that well.
Which one is it for PJ & Aaron? I don't know. Possibly a bit of A & a lot of B. But really, only they know for sure.
It goes without saying that their glitter & gold scheme is paying off for the people they're trying to impress, ie. the Melvin Goodrums of the world who get mesmerized with shiny beads & flashing lights.
People were impressed by PT Barnum and Muscletech as well.
People like Goodrum and Croach would have no doubt also been impressed enough with Scott Rothstein's flash and bullshit 24-36% annual "guaranteed" ROI to throw their life savings into his Ponzi scheme. :D
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I don't see them doing nothing different than Floyd Mayweather, Jay Z, Dan Bilzerian, etc. Its part of promoting the business. Having a Ferrari emblazed on the back with a Blackstone Labs logo is an example....along with a nice tax write-off for advertising the business.
Its effective marketing obviously because people are hating on it 24/7.
We keep commenting because you keep posting this bullshit every day. Spending money like it's water on "marketing" and excessively high employee salaries is no way to run a business. Athletes and rappers usually end up broke because of this - they don't listen to professional advisors like me who tell them to pull it in, and they end up broke sooner or later.
If you're starting a business, you should immulate those who are successful in business - not athletes who only make big bucks for a few years and blow it all, and not "entertainers" who crash and burn. Those rappers and athletes are few and far between anyway.
Read up on Iacoca, Bill Gates, Buffett, et al.
]http://www.cnbc.com/id/101642613] (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101642613)
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I've heard that many consumers feel that blackstone labs and prime are the saddest companies in the industry
Even the owner of a supplement store in my area told me the blackstone product line is his worst seller- I've never seen any of the products actually sell... They remain untouched and collecting dust on the shelves...I swear the products are in the same position on the shelves as they were months ago
Look around online...there are numerous bad reviews of the company and sketchy stories about Pj and why would someone want to buy their products
Their PR approach was a disaster on here
Pj Braun had no idea what he was doing on here and made his company a laughing stock on here
Now Vance is destroying their image and credibility even more
Pj looks ill and not well lately- to me it seems like kidney issues but I'm not certain - he certainly doesn't look healthy - I hope his company is not wearing his health down
In my opinion the company will not last past 2 more years
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/The_Mouth_of_Sauron.jpg)
Vince fast becoming the "Mouth Of Blackstone"...Skeeeeery.
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I've heard that many consumers feel that blackstone labs and prime are the saddest companies in the industry
Even the owner of a supplement store in my area told me the blackstone product line is his worst seller- I've never seen any of the products actually sell... They remain untouched and collecting dust on the shelves...I swear the products are in the same position on the shelves as they were months ago
Look around online...there are numerous bad reviews of the company and sketchy stories about pj-why would someone want to buy their products
Their pr approach was a disaster on here
Pj Braun had no idea what he was doing on here and made his company a laughing stock on here
Now Vance is destroying their image and credibility even more
Pj looks ill and not well lately- to me it seems like kidney issues but I'm not certain - he certainly doesn't look healthy - I hope his company is not wearing his health down
In my opinion the company will not last past 2 more years
Still mad about PJ not giving you any free supplements??? ;D
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I don't see them doing nothing different than Floyd Mayweather, Jay Z, Dan Bilzerian, etc. Its part of promoting the business. Having a Ferrari emblazed on the back with a Blackstone Labs logo is an example....along with a nice tax write-off for advertising the business.
Its effective marketing obviously because people are hating on it 24/7.
See, Melvin Goodrum, you fell for it too, the small minded imbecile that you are.
You're thinking of PJ & Aaron in the same way as Mayweather, Jay Z & Bilzerian. ::)
How can you compare these multi millionaires to 2 guys who have a 1 year old company & the best they could do to look wealthy was lease an exotic car & lie that it was bought.
Oh yes, let's not forget that they claim to ride 1st class every where as well.
You're too desperate & dumb, & fat as well, to comprehend that PJ & Aaron aren't even worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as these people. Are they doing well? Yes. Are they doing as well as they try to show? Doubtful.
At least their site actually brings in capital & they never lived in a trailer in the rural south & dreamt of one day making 35k at a call center & driving a used Jaguar. That would be really really really sad. :'(
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See, Melvin Goodrum, you fell for it too, the small minded imbecile that you are.
You're thinking of PJ & Aaron in the same way as Mayweather, Jay Z & Bilzerian. ::)
How can you compare these multi millionaires to 2 guys who have a 1 year old company & the best they could do to look wealthy was lease an exotic car & lie that it was bought.
Oh yes, let's not forget that they claim to ride 1st class every where as well.
You're too desperate & dumb, & fat as well, to comprehend that PJ & Aaron aren't even worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as these people. Are they doing well? Yes. Are they doing as well as they try to show? Doubtful.
At least their site actually brings in capital & they never lived in a trailer in the rural south & dreamt of one day making 35k at a call center & driving a used Jaguar. That would be really really really sad. :'(
Give it a fucking rest asshole.
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Give it a fucking rest asshole.
What do you care?
If Melvin Goodrum can come here & spew BS about how PJ makes almost $1million a year, how he give Aaron advice, how the year old company is poised to take over the world etc. why can't anyone rebut that?
Again, with all due respect, what do you care? Ignore this thread if it offends you.
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What do you care?
If Melvin Goodrum can come here & spew BS about how PJ makes almost $1million a year, how he give Aaron advice, how the company i poised to take over the world etc. why can't anyone rebut that?
Again, with all due respect, what do you care? Ignore this thread if it offend you.
Watch your tone around wes whore.
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Watch your tone around wes whore.
What tone? He called me an asshole & I asked him, with all due respect, why he cares?
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What tone? He called me an asshole & I asked him, with all due respect, why he cares?
Your mistake was not using with all due respect properly.
The correct response would have been as follows: With all due respect, may I continue to harass and attempt to shame Goodrum? If this thread offends you, particularly my posts and the information I've presented, I will immediately delete them.
Hope this helps Q-bert.
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Thank you gentlemen.
Qwert,know your role here son.............now back off Melvin.
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What tone? He called me an asshole & I asked him, with all due respect, why he cares?
Mistake number 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Give it a fucking rest asshole.
Careful . . . Post like this could get Wes using again.
THE BEEF
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Thank you gentlemen.
Qwert,know your role here son.............now back off Melvin.
Ok, I'm honestly confused here, so, with all due respect, please explain it to me.
If Melvin Goodrum can post anything he wants, most just total lies & fabrication, why can't I call him on it?
I'm really serious, I'm not trolling you or trying to start a flame fight or any of that none sense, I actually would like to know, because I have no clue why you called me an asshole & asked me to back off Melvin Goodrum, when he's been doing this for over a decade on the BB forums.
Thank you kindly Sir.....
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Ok, I'm honestly confused here, so, with all due respect, please explain it to me.
If Melvin Goodrum can post anything he wants, most just total lies & fabrication, why can't I call him on it?
I'm really serious, I'm not trolling you or trying to start a flame fight or any of that none sense, I actually would like to know, because I have no clue why you called me an asshole & asked me to back off Melvin Goodrum, when he's been doing this for over a decade on the BB forums.
Thank you kindly Sir.....
The problem lies in you having absolutely no credentials whatsoever to even criticize...much less even address me for that matter. Have you worked for any supplement companies?? Have you competed??? Do you have a college degree??? etc.
You are nothing more than an account with 166 posts....obviously, you've been either banned from this forum or got run off. Which one is it??? Point being is that you shtick is getting quite old and unless you have some verified credentials, I believe you're just trolling just to get some attention from me that you never got from your momma. ;D
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8) ::)
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The problem lies in you having absolutely no credentials whatsoever to even criticize...much less even address me for that matter. Have you worked for any supplement companies?? Have you competed??? Do you have a college degree??? etc.
You are nothing more than an account with 166 posts....obviously, you've been either banned from this forum or got run off. Which one is it??? Point being is that you shtick is getting quite old and unless you have some verified credentials, I believe you're just trolling just to get some attention from me that you never got from your momma. ;D
Credentials?
Melvin Goodrum, what are your credentials? Fake diplomas you bought online? Dozens of failed businesses? Getting on stage looking skinny fat? Pretending to be an industry insider? Being the laughing stock of the entire BB world for over a decade?
Being delusional about your life doesn't give you cred, it just goes to further prove that you HAVE to lie about your life to look successful.
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What do you care?
If Melvin Goodrum can come here & spew BS about how PJ makes almost $1million a year, how he give Aaron advice, how the year old company is poised to take over the world etc. why can't anyone rebut that?
Again, with all due respect, what do you care? Ignore this thread if it offends you.
you seem alittle to obsessed with following vincenzo around and saying the same things over and over again
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Credentials?
Melvin Goodrum, what are your credentials? Fake diplomas you bought online? Dozens of failed businesses? Getting on stage looking skinny fat? Pretending to be an industry insider? Being the laughing stock of the entire BB world for over a decade?
Being delusional about your life doesn't give you cred, it just goes to further prove that you HAVE to lie about your life to look successful.
Stop fucking dodging the question. If you wish to talk about MY CREDENTIALS than we need to know YOUR CREDENTIALS..... ::)
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Stop fucking dodging the question. If you wish to talk about MY CREDENTIALS than we need to know YOUR CREDENTIALS..... ::)
Oh Melvin Goodrum, you simpleton.
Why would I ever talk about my personal life on a bodybuilding forum of all places? Only a moron, that's you btw, who desperately seeks attention & acceptance would lay his life out on the table for a bunch of strangers.
No one needs credentials to call you out on your BS?
You dodge & run away from 99% of questions anyway.
What happened to your electrical engineering degree our your host of other fake degrees?
Your stockpile of precious metals & jewels?
That 200k you will be coming into in a year?
Your many sites who don't generate any income?
Your stock portfolio?
Your franchises that you own?
Your land acquisitions in Texas?
And the list goes on & on....
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Oh Melvin Goodrum, you simpleton.
Why would I ever talk about my personal life on a bodybuilding forum of all places? Only a moron, that's you btw, who desperately seeks attention & acceptance would lay his life out on the table for a bunch of strangers.
No one needs credentials to call you out on your BS?
You dodge & run away from 99% of questions anyway.
What happened to your electrical engineering degree our your host of other fake degrees?
Your stockpile of precious metals & jewels?
That 200k you will be coming into in a year?
Your many sites who don't generate any income?
Your stock portfolio?
Your franchises that you own?
Your land acquisitions in Texas?
And the list goes on & on....
All talk and no action is pretty much what I expected from you. Get lost clown....grown folks are discussing things.
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Oh Melvin Goodrum, you simpleton.
Why would I ever talk about my personal life on a bodybuilding forum of all places? Only a moron, that's you btw, who desperately seeks attention & acceptance would lay his life out on the table for a bunch of strangers.
No one needs credentials to call you out on your BS?
You dodge & run away from 99% of questions anyway.
What happened to your electrical engineering degree our your host of other fake degrees?
Your stockpile of precious metals & jewels?
That 200k you will be coming into in a year?
Your many sites who don't generate any income?
Your stock portfolio?
Your franchises that you own?
Your land acquisitions in Texas?
And the list goes on & on....
While what you say is true that doesn't excuse you from establishing some credentials here to support your criticism of hapless bullshitter, Goodrum.
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While what you say is true that doesn't excuse you from establishing some credentials here to support your criticism of hapless bullshitter, Goodrum.
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Q-bert here are a few examples of said credentials:
Invent a complex piece of machinery, that is literally light years ahead of anything else on the market, with intricate parts and hundreds of thousands of moving pieces, that weighs more than a semi, and would probably be unrepairable if something were to go astray with its components but it can isolate the curling motion that will lead to bigger biceps.
Compete and win a national contest, have it documented, but never get approved for blue stars.
Have Schwarzenegger spend a weekend in your Sydney apartment, watch as he propositions a teenage girl yet don't report his actions to the proper authorities.
Mistime your carb load, spill over, yet still compete in the Metrolina.
Become an online presence/unpaid spokesman/company shrill for a yet unproven supplement company.
Ponder buying an 05 Jaguar, post the Craigslist ad to said car.
Post videos hitting a heavy bag, singing, curling 185 or a video of all three.
Ponder electricity.
Hate women and profess it in a back handed way (you can also include all minorities, Jews, gays and bodybuilding).
Talk about Mike Ohearn's wig.
Brah if you would have spent some time (your first 500 hundred, give or take) posting lol's, X's, and emoji's you'd have all the credentials needed. Also try not to take everything so serious.
That said I appreciate your attempts at slaying Goodrum, MANY have tried, none (yourself included) will succeed.
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All talk and no action is pretty much what I expected from you. Get lost clown....grown folks are discussing things.
My life, credentials, accomplishments, failures etc are not privy to a public bodybuilding forum. I don't make any claims of grandeur & pretend to be a mogul, not unlike yourself. Beg all you want, but you're about as likely to get any info on me as you are getting a good paying job....or ever being thin or in shape.
By your reasoning, you have to make a movie to criticize a director. Have a degree in music to critique a piece of music. Build a car to review an automobile. Great reasoning Melvin Goodrum. You're sharp as a tack, you are.
What actual credentials do you have? Fake diplomas? Countless businesses that fail? Obese, 40 years old & broke. Great credentials Melvin Goodrum.
Good thing you have a stock pile of jewels, gold, stocks & land to look forward to.
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What actual credentials do you have? Fake diplomas? Countless businesses that fail? Obese, 40 years old & broke.
All those failures and effort have to count for something!? Goodrum is at least certified at what he doesn't achieve. His next enterprise will show everyone.
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Jeesus christ vincenzo goodcum what have you done to this poor man he is writing novel after novel about you
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Jeesus christ vincenzo goodcum what have you done to this poor man he is writing novel after novel about you
I've been seeing Melvin Goodrum spew his BS on countless forums for OVER A DECADE.
I always ignored him, but he's relentless & it''s getting out of hand & more voluminous.
The stupidity & lies don't stop or slow down. He has no self control or off switch. He's like the retarded Energizer rabbit.
For every yin there must be a yang.
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My life, credentials, accomplishments, failures etc are not privy to a public bodybuilding forum. I don't make any claims of grandeur & pretend to be a mogul, not unlike yourself. Beg all you want, but you're about as likely to get any info on me as you are getting a good paying job....or ever being thin or in shape.
By your reasoning, you have to make a movie to criticize a director. Have a degree in music to critique a piece of music. Build a car to review an automobile. Great reasoning Melvin Goodrum. You're sharp as a tack, you are.
What actual credentials do you have? Fake diplomas? Countless businesses that fail? Obese, 40 years old & broke. Great credentials Melvin Goodrum.
Good thing you have a stock pile of jewels, gold, stocks & land to look forward to.
You been warned ya` prick ya` !!
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You been warned ya` prick ya` !!
Qwert is speaking the truth. However, nothing anyone says will make any difference to Goodrum. He will keep bullshitting endlessly.
He has figured out that it is difficult to prove truth or falsehood on the internet. So Melvin can be whoever he chooses to be on Getbig. An internet
legend!
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All those failures and effort have to count for something!? Goodrum is at least certified at what he doesn't achieve. His next enterprise will show everyone.
WHAT THE FUCK??????? This half-tard calling someone out on failures?????????????
Vic's whole life has been a failure ( marriage, bullshit machines and how many patents? ) Get the fuck out of this thread you old turd bugler!
THE BEEF
P.S. Get in touch with coach and the two of you old queers can compare notes.
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I've been seeing Melvin Goodrum spew his BS on countless forums for OVER A DECADE.
I always ignored him, but he's relentless & it''s getting out of hand & more voluminous.
The stupidity & lies don't stop or slow down. He has no self control or off switch. He's like the retarded Energizer rabbit.
For every yin there must be a yang.
maybe so but the sad part is that he owns your mind so much that you are writing novels about him day in and day out....and its the same thing over anx over again. Why do you care so much?
And wes warned you, you should take it seriously cause he can take away his teeths and bite your neck and it will not be fun
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maybe so but the sad part is that he owns your mind so much that you are writing novels about him day in and day out....and its the same thing over anx over again. Why do you care so much?
And wes warned you, you should take it seriously cause he can take away his teeths and bite your neck and it will not be fun
....and I would rip Wes's ribs out with my bare hands. Qwert is one of the good guys whereas Goodrum is a genuine tool.
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....and I would rip Wes's ribs out with my bare hands. Qwert is one of the good guys whereas Goodrum is a genuine tool.
Hi Vince! How are you doing lately?
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Hi Vince! How are you doing lately?
Never mind how I am!
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Never mind how I am!
OK- then fuck off you old loser..
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OK- then fuck off you old loser..
That is better. I don't take kindly to being disrespected on the net.
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More of his wife
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Hahah looks like goodrum is adding another name to the voodoo death pool. Statistically, not a good place to be.
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Hahah looks like goodrum is adding another name to the voodoo death pool. Statistically, not a good place to be.
He should add his own. Buggering other men is putting him at risk of teh aidz.
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....and I would rip Wes's ribs out with my bare hands. Qwert is one of the good guys whereas Goodrum is a genuine tool.
you are quite the tool yourself vince
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This thread makes me really miss Keith. Somewhere in heaven, he's asking to borrow God's laptop just for a few minutes.
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Jeesus christ vincenzo goodcum what have you done to this poor man he is writing novel after novel about you
Who knows. Its pretty clear that this guys is just a nobody so his opinion doesn't mean shit. ;D
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....and I would rip Wes's ribs out with my bare hands. Qwert is one of the good guys whereas Goodrum is a genuine tool.
Basile, I'm just curious as to why you've placed some Craigslist ads recently in the m4m section???
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Basile, I'm just curious as to why you've placed some Craigslist ads recently in the m4m section???
A certain trainer MENTIONED these ads to THE BEEF in a pm.
THE BEEF
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Basile, I'm just curious as to why you've placed some Craigslist ads recently in the m4m section???
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Basile will never learn ro stfu hahahah
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Who knows. Its pretty clear that this guys is just a nobody so his opinion doesn't mean shit. ;D
As opposed to your 'opinions' where you pull news & stats out of your ass & claim them as true?
Is that the credentials that you're talking about?
Fake news, fake diplomas, fake businesses etc?
In that case, you definitely have more 'credentials' than I do.
I stand corrected.
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As opposed to your 'opinions' where you pull news & stats out of your ass & claim them as true?
Is that the credentials that you're talking about?
Fake news, fake diplomas, fake businesses etc?
In that case, you definitely have more 'credentials' than I do.
I stand corrected.
Gee, I wish I had a website that listed what I do for a living. http://www.melvingoodrum.com (http://www.melvingoodrum.com) ::)
Now, buzz off clown.
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Goodrums going rates for personal training:
In- Home Fitness Training: $85.00 dollars per session. Please call to schedule an appointment as available times are limited. Discounts will apply for training package sets.
Online Fitness Training: $15.00 a month. Includes customized training routine, nutritional meal plan, and journal software.
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Gee, I wish I had a website that listed what I do for a living. http://www.melvingoodrum.com (http://www.melvingoodrum.com) ::)
Now, buzz off clown.
No wonder you are poor.
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Goodrum, Seriously not trying to be a dick but i noticed your alma mater Ashworth College got busted by the FTC for some false claims recently.
According to the Commission’s complaint, the Professional Career Development Institute, LLC, doing business as Ashworth College, violated the FTC Act by deceptively marketing its online college degree and career-training programs
The order also includes an $11 million judgment, which is suspended based on the institution’s inability to pay.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2015/05/ashworth-college-settles-ftc-charges-it-misled-students-about
To be honest, i think most of these online universities tend to be shady. They don't accept student loans but they will take military GI Bill payments. They also actively advertise to military members since they know its guaranteed, government money. Fucking shame
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The problem lies in you having absolutely no credentials whatsoever to even criticize...much less even address me for that matter. Have you worked for any supplement companies?? Have you competed??? Do you have a college degree??? etc.
You are nothing more than an account with 166 posts....obviously, you've been either banned from this forum or got run off. Which one is it??? Point being is that you shtick is getting quite old and unless you have some verified credentials, I believe you're just trolling just to get some attention from me that you never got from your momma. ;D
have you competed? like been competitive?
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My life, credentials, accomplishments, failures etc are not privy to a public bodybuilding forum. I don't make any claims of grandeur & pretend to be a mogul, not unlike yourself. Beg all you want, but you're about as likely to get any info on me as you are getting a good paying job....or ever being thin or in shape.
By your reasoning, you have to make a movie to criticize a director. Have a degree in music to critique a piece of music. Build a car to review an automobile. Great reasoning Melvin Goodrum. You're sharp as a tack, you are.
What actual credentials do you have? Fake diplomas? Countless businesses that fail? Obese, 40 years old & broke. Great credentials Melvin Goodrum.
Good thing you have a stock pile of jewels, gold, stocks & land to look forward to.
TRANSLATION: I`m a complete lonely sad nobody and have accomplished jackshit in life thus far.
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....and I would rip Wes's ribs out with my bare hands. Qwert is one of the good guys whereas Goodrum is a genuine tool.
My ribs are off limits Vince.
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My ribs are off limits Vince.
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Wes , print this out & post to Zorba at "Vince & Roz Fitnes" ;)
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Gee, I wish I had a website that listed what I do for a living. http://www.melvingoodrum.com (http://www.melvingoodrum.com) ::)
Now, buzz off clown.
"About Me
I started personal training to help people achieve their optimum physique. I am not not one of those typical weight-loss factory gurus you see on TV. Reaching an optimum physique is an aesthetic balance of muscle and tone.
Whether you need to lose or gain weight is pointless since it is not a proper criteria for an aesthetic physique. Simply put, I mold people into want they want to look like, not what they should weigh."
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Jeesus christ vincenzo goodcum what have you done to this poor man he is writing novel after novel about you
Vince seems to have taken up ownership of this fellow's limited allotment of grey matter.
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Gee, I wish I had a website that listed what I do for a living. http://www.melvingoodrum.com (http://www.melvingoodrum.com) ::)
Now, buzz off clown.
But Melvin Goodrum, you don't do any of those things.
I can put up a website claiming that I build nuclear reactors, but it doesn't mean that I do.
What you do for a living is far removed from what you claim on that website & everyone knows it.
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I wish I was full of PJ Braun (no homo)
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But Melvin Goodrum, you don't do any of those things.
I can put up a website claiming that I build nuclear reactors, but it doesn't mean that I do.
What you do for a living is far removed from what you claim on that website & everyone knows it.
Do yourself a favor and stop worrying about what I do for a living.
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Gee, I wish I had a website that listed what I do for a living. http://www.melvingoodrum.com (http://www.melvingoodrum.com) ::)
Now, buzz off clown.
Holly shit. I was making better websites at 16. Out of the all free themes available you had to choose this one. I won't even try to make fun of you anymore.
And PJ fella fucked everyone in the butt from what I get is loaded now and fucks a very hot wife. Don't know if it can get better, but some people are probably eating their words.
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"About Me
I started personal training to help people achieve their optimum physique. I am not not one of those typical weight-loss factory gurus you see on TV. Reaching an optimum physique is an aesthetic balance of muscle and tone.
Whether you need to lose or gain weight is pointless since it is not a proper criteria for an aesthetic physique. Simply put, I mold people into want they want to look like, not what they should weigh."
lål
He practices what he preaches:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=559312.0;attach=590139;image)
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Do yourself a favor and stop worrying about what I do for a living.
Why would I care what shift you work at the Piggly Wiggly?
(https://www.pigglywiggly.com/sites/default/files/PigglyWiggly-Logomarkhighres.jpg)
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Why would I care what shift you work at the Piggly Wiggly?
(https://www.pigglywiggly.com/sites/default/files/PigglyWiggly-Logomarkhighres.jpg)
If your obsessive babbling was a song..... ;D
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lål
He practices what he preaches:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=559312.0;attach=590139;image)
still no update pics from Vince's "transformation kit"
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still no update pics from Vince's "transformation kit"
You can lead a horse to water
You can lead a horse to water (but you can't make him/it drink).
Something that you say which means you can give someone the opportunity to do something, but you cannot force them to do it if they do not want to.
eg. I made all the arrangements, bought the ticket, and even took him to the airport, but he just wouldn't get on the plane.
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Q-bert here are a few examples of said credentials:
Invent a complex piece of machinery, that is literally light years ahead of anything else on the market, with intricate parts and hundreds of thousands of moving pieces, that weighs more than a semi, and would probably be unrepairable if something were to go astray with its components but it can isolate the curling motion that will lead to bigger biceps.
Compete and win a national contest, have it documented, but never get approved for blue stars.
Have Schwarzenegger spend a weekend in your Sydney apartment, watch as he propositions a teenage girl yet don't report his actions to the proper authorities.
Mistime your carb load, spill over, yet still compete in the Metrolina.
Become an online presence/unpaid spokesman/company shrill for a yet unproven supplement company.
Ponder buying an 05 Jaguar, post the Craigslist ad to said car.
Post videos hitting a heavy bag, singing, curling 185 or a video of all three.
Ponder electricity.
Hate women and profess it in a back handed way (you can also include all minorities, Jews, gays and bodybuilding).
Talk about Mike Ohearn's wig.
Brah if you would have spent some time (your first 500 hundred, give or take) posting lol's, X's, and emoji's you'd have all the credentials needed. Also try not to take everything so serious.
That said I appreciate your attempts at slaying Goodrum, MANY have tried, none (yourself included) will succeed.
I'm not trying to derail this thread between Qwerty and Vince G, but I really feel like this credentials post is being overlooked and possibly ignored.
I'm feeling like what Id imagine Shizzo should feel like for attention whoring, but I totally understand it now.
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You can lead a horse to water
You can lead a horse to water (but you can't make him/it drink).
Something that you say which means you can give someone the opportunity to do something, but you cannot force them to do it if they do not want to.
eg. I made all the arrangements, bought the ticket, and even took him to the airport, but he just wouldn't get on the plane.
The only horse I see is your momma. Go lead her out to the water and stop talking about things you don't know shit about.
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The only horse I see is your momma. Go lead her out to the water and stop talking about things you don't know shit about.
No shame Goodrum resorts to attacking the poster because he hopes the criticism will go away.
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No shame Goodrum resorts to attacking the poster because he hopes the criticism will go away.
I don't think Melvin Goodrum has felt any shame for years. It's not something delusional people have too much of.
I do feel a little sorry for him if he has to resort to 'your momma' come backs instead of actually answering posts in a coherent manner.
But then again, he gets paid to mop floors at the local Piggly Wiggly & not use that them there electrical engineering brain of his.
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Bump ;D
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Bump ;D
You better bring us something good, Vince? After bumping all these old PJ threads?
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You better bring us something good, Vince? After bumping all these old PJ threads?
It's just Melvin Goodrum trying to earn his keep with Aaron by slandering PJ on his behalf.
he gots to keep them XXXL t-shirts & jugs of fart powder coming in.