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Title: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: SF1900 on June 09, 2015, 10:17:37 PM
He's pretty much been on deathrow since 1989. Why are people like him on deathrow for so long?  Huh Huh

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/07/justice/california-night-stalker-ramirez-dead/

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"I am beyond good and evil. I will be avenged. Lucifer dwells in us all."

"That's it."

Richard Ramirez was 29 when he spoke those words in a Southern California courtroom in 1989. He'd just been sentenced to death following his conviction for 13 murders, five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults and 14 burglaries.

A serial murderer, a serial rapist, a Satan worshiper, a man who inflicted physical and emotional pain on his victims in myriad ways. Richard Ramirez was all those things, but to Californians terrorized during his violent spree in the spring and summer of 1985, he was simply the "Night Stalker."

The vengeance that Ramirez promised apparently never came to fruition. Neither did the state's plan to execute him.

Instead, on Friday morning, Richard Ramirez died of natural causes at Marin General Hospital north of San Francisco, according to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. Ramirez became the 59th inmate in the state to die in this manner while awaiting execution, not including 22 who committed suicide and six dead of other causes.

He was 53.

Guns, knives, fists and fear

So how did the "Night Stalker" come to be?

Ramirez was born to a large family in El Paso, Texas. He was in his late teens when he landed in Southern California in the 1970s.

Media reports indicated that he had a history of drug use, some arrests on relatively minor charges, and no evident purpose in life over his first few decades.

But some time in the mid-1980s, things turned drastically.

It was then that horrific tales began to surface of a man breaking into homes, mostly in Southern California, in the wee hours of the morning.

On several occasions, a man who happened to be inside was killed quickly. A female might be raped, sometimes more than once. Then the man who'd become known as the "Night Stalker" would ransack the home looking for valuables.

There were gory exceptions to this scenario. Like 30-year-old student Tsai-Lian Yu, found lying bloody on the ground near her running car in Monterey Park, California, according to media reports. There was also the 41-year-old woman bound and raped, as her 12-year-old son was handcuffed and locked in a closet.

While some victims were in their 60s and older, others were in their 20s and 30s. There were reports of pentagrams being scrawled at crime scenes, as well as snippets from heavy metal songs.

The killing weapons varied: guns, knives, fists. All were used with evident malice, and all contributed to the fear and frenzy that gripped the region.

Some victims survived -- in some cases without the assailant's apparent knowledge, in others seemingly spared for whatever reason -- and then talked to police. Yet authorities were still grasping for clues in August 1985, when a manager at a hotel in San Francisco's Tenderloin district recognized descriptions of the suspect as a man who'd stayed at his hotel periodically for a year and a half.

Hotel has a notorious past

By then, Ramirez had already left the Bay Area for Southern California. He attacked again on August 24 in Los Angeles. After a bus trip to Tucson, Arizona -- where he'd been visiting his brother -- he was finally recognized at a store near a downtown L.A. bus station after his image had been splashed across newspapers.

Ramirez fled. Residents of an east Los Angeles neighborhood, though, spotted him trying to steal two cars, caught and subdued him, then held him down until police arrived.

'It's just pure evil'

After years of delays, Ramirez's case went to trial in 1989. The whole prosecution cost Los Angeles County more than $1.8 million, a record amount that stood until O.J. Simpson's murder trial years later.

As horrific and dramatic as the allegations against him, Ramirez's antics during the proceedings added to the intrigue -- like when he'd draw a pentagram on his hand and yell out, "Hail Satan."

The jury convicted him of 11 murders in Southern California and two others in the San Francisco area.

A death sentence followed. According to the Los Angeles Times, Superior Court Judge Michael Tynan said Ramirez, during his bloody spree, had displayed "cruelty, callousness and viciousness beyond any human understanding."

The rest of his life was spent at the home for many of California's most dangerous felons -- San Quentin State Prison, which sits like a fortress along the bay just north of San Francisco.

Even on Death Row, alongside the likes of Scott Peterson and the Menendez brothers, it hasn't been an entirely lonely existence for Ramirez. One woman who sat through his trial, thinking he was innocent, then wrote him dozens of letters and visited him in prison. It was there, in 1996, that the two married.

"He's kind, he's funny, he's charming," the convicted serial killer's wife, Doreen Ramirez, told CNN one year later. "I think he's a really great person. He's my best friend; he's my buddy."

That's not the impression of millions in Los Angeles County who'd been terrified by him, and especially those who survived his attacks or are related to those killed.

They are people like Peter Zazzara, whose parents were among those slain. He couldn't stomach sitting through Ramirez's trial, and even talking to CNN years later in 2006, he couldn't make sense of what happened.

"It's just evil. It's just pure evil," said Zazzara. "I don't know why somebody would want to do something like that. To take joy in the way it happened."
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: muscleman-2013 on June 09, 2015, 10:34:16 PM
I watched a doco on this guy.  He was pure evil.  An extremely violent and sadistic child rapist.  Like many Mexicanos...   liked little white girls.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Wiggs on June 09, 2015, 10:37:20 PM
Hell awaits. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: SF1900 on June 09, 2015, 10:44:51 PM
I watched a doco on this guy.  He was pure evil.  An extremely violent and sadistic child rapist.  Like many Mexicanos...   liked little white girls.

Child rapist? Most of his victim were 50 year old and older. Some were in their 20's.

Were their crimes before these?

Jennie Wincow (79) / Dayle Okazaki (34) / Tsai "Veronica" Lan Yu (30) / Vincent Zazzara (64), and his wife Maxine (44) / William "Bill" Doi (66) / Mable "Ma Bell" Keller (83) / Mary Louise Cannon (75) / Joyce Lucille Nelson (61) / Max (68), and Lela Kneiding (66) / Chainarong Khovananth (32) / Elyas Abowath (35)
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Royalty on June 09, 2015, 10:47:40 PM
I couldn't imagine dying; and having nothing to be proud of..... let alone; dying, and knowing that I destroyed & ended so many peoples lives.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: hardgainerj on June 09, 2015, 10:48:32 PM
Hell awaits. Good riddance.
hell doesnt exist much like the evidence of the west africans as the original hebrews
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: SF1900 on June 09, 2015, 10:54:32 PM
I couldn't imagine dying; and having nothing to be proud of..... let alone; dying, and knowing that I destroyed & ended so many peoples lives.

That's the thing, he is probably not too worried about dying alone or destroying so many lives. Hes a psychopath.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: muscleman-2013 on June 09, 2015, 10:57:53 PM
Child rapist? Most of his victim were 50 year old and older. Some were in their 20's.

Were their crimes before these?

Jennie Wincow (79) / Dayle Okazaki (34) / Tsai "Veronica" Lan Yu (30) / Vincent Zazzara (64), and his wife Maxine (44) / William "Bill" Doi (66) / Mable "Ma Bell" Keller (83) / Mary Louise Cannon (75) / Joyce Lucille Nelson (61) / Max (68), and Lela Kneiding (66) / Chainarong Khovananth (32) / Elyas Abowath (35)

He abducted a little blonde girl off a beach and raped and butchered her.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Royalty on June 09, 2015, 11:02:53 PM
That's the thing, he is probably not too worried about dying alone or destroying so many lives. Hes a psychopath.

You're right. In his mind, his life was a successful one
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Rudee on June 09, 2015, 11:48:27 PM
Um... hello!   He died in 2013.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: SF1900 on June 09, 2015, 11:56:24 PM
Um... hello!   He died in 2013.

(http://www.somdnews.com/storyimage/PN/20150410/NEWS/150419926/EP/1/5/EP-150419926.jpg)
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Mitch on June 10, 2015, 12:01:12 AM
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Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Parker on June 10, 2015, 12:15:05 AM
I couldn't imagine dying; and having nothing to be proud of..... let alone; dying, and knowing that I destroyed & ended so many peoples lives.
That is probably something that he WAS proud of.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: thegamechanger on June 10, 2015, 01:21:27 AM
imagine the amount of drugs you must be on to post this 2 year old news article, the dosage must be extreme
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: SuperTed on June 10, 2015, 02:02:44 AM
Poor man's Ted Bundy.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: True on June 10, 2015, 02:51:32 AM
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: nzmusclemonster on June 10, 2015, 04:01:43 AM
He used to post here.

Quality contributions.

I like to cum on the carpet in the corner of my room.

If anyone ask me I say I spiltt toothpaste there....
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Mr Anabolic on June 10, 2015, 04:29:43 AM
(http://cdn2.denofgeek.us/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/kolchak-night-stalker-1.jpg?itok=Yct_EtA3)
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: gmflex on June 10, 2015, 08:14:05 AM
He used to post here.

Quality contributions.
 


 :D ;D
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: _bruce_ on June 10, 2015, 08:22:21 AM
He was a huge coward - attacked people at night.
Some of his thoughts and musings seemed interesting though. It would be cool to be able to find out what part of such people's convictions are caused by mental illness and what could be from another source. I think Dahmer said he had shadow people visiting him... who knows....
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Wiggs on June 10, 2015, 08:30:34 AM
He was a huge coward - attacked people at night.
Some of his thoughts and musings seemed interesting though. It would be cool to be able to find out what part of such people's convictions are caused by mental illness and what could be from another source. I think Dahmer said he had shadow people visiting him... who knows....


Satanically inspired. As in the real Satan.  He's real whether you believe he exists or not.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: SF1900 on June 10, 2015, 09:06:14 AM
Satanically inspired. As in the real Satan.  He's real whether you believe he exists or not.

Wrong. There is no Satan. Its simplifying the mind of a killer.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: tommywishbone on June 10, 2015, 09:35:44 AM
I was living in Venice Beach during his rampage.  That was one spooky, deranged guy. 
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: njflex on June 10, 2015, 10:29:02 AM
(http://cdn2.denofgeek.us/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/kolchak-night-stalker-1.jpg?itok=Yct_EtA3)
KOLCHAK...
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: el numero uno on June 10, 2015, 10:36:48 AM
I watched a doco on this guy.  He was pure evil.  An extremely violent and sadistic child rapist.  Like many Mexicanos...   liked little white girls.

This guys hates hebrews, arabs, mexicans, asians. It must be a shitty life when the only thing you can brag about is being white.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Wiggs on June 10, 2015, 11:09:19 AM
Wrong. There is no Satan. Its simplifying the mind of a killer.

Wrong, there is a Satan, you're not a spiritual person so you can't conceive the idea there is.  It's ok. Your pineal gland is calcified, I don't expect you to understand.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: el numero uno on June 10, 2015, 11:10:38 AM
Wrong, there is a Satan, your not a spiritual person so you can't conceive the idea there is.  It's ok. Your pineal gland is calcified, I don't expect you to understand.

What color the original Satan is? And, it is a fact?
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Wiggs on June 10, 2015, 11:17:10 AM
What color the original Satan is? And, it is a fact?

I don't know. There is nothing saying his color. The physical description of him before he fell describes him as the most beautiful of all the angels.  He was also the most intelligent.  He's number two to God so one could only imagine his power.

This pitch fork red guy is a bunch of bullshit.  That's not Satan.  People that underestimate him are preys of his. He runs this planet as the Bible states.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on June 10, 2015, 12:17:16 PM
Wrong, there is a Satan, you're not a spiritual person so you can't conceive the idea there is.  It's ok. Your pineal gland is calcified, I don't expect you to understand.


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Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: 2Thick on June 10, 2015, 04:55:34 PM
They sit on death row for so long because they're allowed far too many appeals. They should have 365 days to appeal the sentence IMO, no longer.

It actually costs more to execute a prisoner (if they even get executed before otherwise dying) than to keep them locked up for life without a death sentence because of all of the death sentence appeals they get.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: SF1900 on June 10, 2015, 04:57:39 PM
Wrong, there is a Satan, you're not a spiritual person so you can't conceive the idea there is.  It's ok. Your pineal gland is calcified, I don't expect you to understand.

Wrong, there is no Satan. Whether or not I am spiritual does not provide sufficient evidence that Satan exists. Just saying that Satan exists, does not make it so.

Sorry to burst your bubble.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Fortress on June 10, 2015, 05:15:16 PM
I couldn't imagine dying; and having nothing to be proud of..... let alone; dying, and knowing that I destroyed & ended so many peoples lives.

Whoa! Didn't stay alert in writing class, I see (read).

Brutal misuse of punctuation.

 ;D
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Fortress on June 10, 2015, 05:27:15 PM
Richard was the most "metal" of all the modern-era serial killers.

He also defines the '80s psychopath.

I have no idea what I'm talking about.  :D

Go on to the next response ...

Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: blinky on June 10, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
Hell awaits. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 10, 2015, 10:42:47 PM
hell doesnt exist much like the evidence of the west africans as the original hebrews

I'll pay 4 Milton ancestry DNA testing any time  ;D
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 10, 2015, 10:45:18 PM
I don't know. There is nothing saying his color. The physical description of him before he fell describes him as the most beautiful of all the angels.  He was also the most intelligent.  He's number two to God so one could only imagine his power.

This pitch fork red guy is a bunch of bullshit.  That's not Satan.  People that underestimate him are preys of his. He runs this planet as the Bible states.

hmmm, what colour is that geezer 'God' ......................, ::)
Title: Re: Serial killer, rapist Richard Ramirez -- known as 'Night Stalker' -- dead at 53
Post by: Papper on June 10, 2015, 11:47:25 PM
He has respectable facial cutness