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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: tatoo on June 11, 2015, 11:30:13 AM
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on my way to being lean enough again to use insulin. I like Humalog at 30iu per day along w 10iu hgh. how many units are you monsters using??
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30 is a good dose and my upper range when I use it. Anything under say 15 does not really do much.
Time to go back on soon...
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30 is a good dose and my upper range when I use it. Anything under say 15 does not really do much.
Time to go back on soon...
what kind of insulin do you use? I was thinking about using humulin r this time.
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what kind of insulin do you use? I was thinking about using humulin r this time.
humalin R is my favorite. Humalog is what I may take pre workout then with second post workout meal, a shot of humalin R which will make my next 2 meals more "bodybuilding friendly" I will aim for a big meal while the R peaks, and get my last one 3 hours later and go to bed.
Anything less than a humlog pre workout shot and the R shot taken later will not result in any gains in my case.
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i use 15iu novolog pre workout
started off at about 10 but right now i cant push it higher
right now im still tinkering with the carb intake
gotten hypo a bazillion times during my workouts. what i found out is that i basically need a CONSTANT carb intake during my workout or ill go hypo..
rapid slin hits me hard from 40mins until about 90mins after injection, thats when im close to hypo all the time
when i dont have any sugar for just 4-5 minutes during that timeframe and do 2-3 sets i instantly go hypo and have to sit it out for a couple mins
what actually works for me is what im doign right now ...
i inject 15iu, drink a big ass whey shake (half liter skim milk, 60g whey, creatine, leucine)
then head to the gym
25-30mins after inject i start my workout
and im basically eating 1-2 pieces of haribo after each set at the gym, lol
for a total of 100g carbs
plus 60g dextrose mixed in my water/tea that i drink during workouts
about 2 hours after the inject im usually back home and eat (about 100g carbs 60g protein and maybe a bit of fat)
haribo is nothing else but glucose-syrup plus sugar so about 70% or so pure dextrose.
couple reasons for that:
-drinking 150g dextrose would be a fucking waste because thats empty calories
-haribo at least tastes good and is the exact same
-i like to eat
-i like to eat sweets
-i get to eat sweets pretty much every day which satisfies my sweet tooth and keeps me from cheating on my diet
(http://www.sparblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Haribo-Gro%C3%9Fpackungen.jpg)
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I shit you not Jiz, I eat candy pre intra workout as well, lol! 15 units is my sweet spot also pre workout, have gone as high as 30, but the carbs to keep me conscious caused stomach problems.
Time to get back on this stuff...
I love it when out of shape people see me eating candy in the gym, lol, I know it drives them nuts.
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lmao yeah the faces you get are godlike
by the way, you might actually dont need the post workout shot...
i dont know why the fuck that happens but rapid acting slin seems to work much longer than its actually present in your blood...
look up glucose infusion rates (the amount of glucose used to keep blood sugar stable after an insulin injection)
they actually stay elevated for 4-5 hours, even though rapid slin is basically out of your system after about 2 1/2 hours
also look at that study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12832307
"Both insulin analogs produced similar serum insulin levels (250-300 pmol/l) at approximately 30 min and disappeared from serum after approximately 4 h. Insulin aspart and lispro had similar effects on glucose and fat metabolism. Effects on carbohydrate metabolism (glucose uptake, glucose oxidation, and endogenous glucose production) peaked after approximately 2-3 h and disappeared after approximately 5-6 h"
weird as fuck, but insulin actually seems to start shuttling carbs when its already out of your system
maybe because it raises the glut4 transport proteins to the cell surface so that cells can soak up glucose better? idk...
ive also gotten hypo a few times about 5 or 6 hours after my injection, when i hadnt eaten for 3 hours since my post workout meal.
i cant really explain how this is possible if the insulin is basically out of your system, but it just seems to work that way.
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m92ylkTovM1qgrnh8o1_1280.png)
insulin blood plasma peaks
vs
(http://dtc.ucsf.edu/images/charts/4.f.i.jpg)
glucose infusion rates
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I take the second with with my SECOND post workout meal for the exact reasons you mention. It's still working, a second shot post workout right away=slin over slin=me feeling fucked up. Not good.
So I let it clear out, can feel normal and take my second shot 6hrs before bed time. I just eat as I normally would as i eat high carb all the time anyways...
This is where personal experience thrives over textbooks, they are good reference points, that's it...
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I get away with 7 grams of carbs per unit and don't go hypo.
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I get away with 7 grams of carbs per unit and don't go hypo.
depends
i can actually inject up to 10iu and dont eat any carbs at all and my blood sugar doesnt crash when im sitting at home and doing nothing
BUT
this is different if you do that pre workout
i once injected 6 or 7iu pre workout on empty stomach and didnt eat any carbs (i did carry around a powerade of course just in case)
believe me that was probably the most uncomfortable hour of my life
i just wanted to see how my body reacts
i was on the verge of fainting after every single set. extremely hypo all the time, blood sugar mustve been below 40-50 easily all the time, but i didnt carry my glucometer in the gym for obvious reasons lol
that was kind of a self test, i actually pushed through and completed the whole workout, but NEVER AGAIN.
i had only 2 thoughts in my head all the time
- why the fuck are you doing this?
- carbs carbs carbs carbs
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IIRC insulin doesn't actually store glucose it just triggers GLUT4 to uptake it into the cells
Who knows how long that takes
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I have really no clue about slin but im wondering...
What kind of slin do you guys use ? I know theres some fast/long/middle acting types... whats the best for bodybuilding ?
Also when is it optimal to use ? Im guessing peri workout but before/after ?
Slin being a fat storing hormone how do you avoid getting fat on it ? GH or peptides use ? Eating clean carbs ?
also i rarely see slin on steroids selling sites, I know its OTC in the states but where do you get it in the EU ?
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I have really no clue about slin but im wondering...
What kind of slin do you guys use ? I know theres some fast/long/middle acting types... whats the best for bodybuilding ?
Also when is it optimal to use ? Im guessing peri workout but before/after ?
Slin being a fat storing hormone how do you avoid getting fat on it ? GH or peptides use ? Eating clean carbs ?
also i rarely see slin on steroids selling sites, I know its OTC in the states but where do you get it in the EU ?
Both Jizmo and I said the types of slin we use.
did you even read our posts?????????????????
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cmon heenok, every single of your questions has been answered in this thread
-only ever use rapid
-humulin-r can have its place pre workout too
-chronic hyperinsulinemia causes insulin resistance, id personally never use anything but rapid
-pre workout or post workout, however pre workout makes much more sense to me
-insulin is not a fat storing hormone. its basically a nutrient transporter
-massive amounts of test and tren
-lol@clean carbs, thats the last thing you want with rapid slin in your blood
btw pretty much every UK source has slin...
just get the penfills and draw with a syringe, no need for a fancy pen.
i actually draw out the whole cartridge with a 3ml syringe, put a 30g needle on top and use that for 20 shots :D switch needle maybe every 3-4 injects
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IIRC insulin doesn't actually store glucose it just triggers GLUT4 to uptake it into the cells
Who knows how long that takes
My brological guess it... Not long!
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on my way to being lean enough again to use insulin. I like Humalog at 30iu per day along w 10iu hgh. how many units are you monsters using??
You can turn pro on that
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You can turn pro on that
i think in the HIGH pro circuits its more like 30iu per meal, not per day ;D
ive heard stories about 100+ ius of rapid, mixed with 50iu long acting a day
GH also more in the 20iu range. 10iu maybe if pharma
but yeah nonetheless you probably could turn pro on that
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You can turn pro on that
haha, not even close...
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haha, not even close...
Get you hands on something like this, do 10ius 5 on waking and 5 at noon then come back to me.
This is my 30 day supply....will not go beyond 25...
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i think in the HIGH pro circuits its more like 30iu per meal, not per day ;D
ive heard stories about 100+ ius of rapid, mixed with 50iu long acting a day
GH also more in the 20iu range. 10iu maybe if pharma
but yeah nonetheless you probably could turn pro on that
Slin is something you will start building resistance to unlike hormones. This is the very reason we keep upping the dosages to get the same benefit over a long period of time
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You can turn pro on that
not when its generic gh brother or 4iu pharm. that's my stack personally. genetics and response to drugs turn you pro. in my case id definatley need more to even become close to pro size
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not when its generic gh brother or 4iu pharm. that's my stack personally. genetics and response to drugs turn you pro. in my case id definatley need more to even become close to pro size
4-6iu pharma is good for base for amateur...now days yes nationals guys are using more than 10iu of hgh
Amount of GH will also depend on joint size ,height, response, your placing on how you look on the show day, family support, mental toughness , who else turned up on stage hat day..of course response is very important however I have not seen one dedicated bodybuilder not respond to good GH at least in terms of putting on mass required to turn pro.
10iu american pharma or swiss pharma or 30 iu generic from trusted source is one hell of an amount to begin with....if you look very very good with that...then either you are doing something terribly wrong or you got shit genetics and it is usually the second case... But you have to be ON all the time 365 days a year
The more HGH you can use..the faster your way to the top...Jumbo being an exception
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Slin is something you will start building resistance to unlike hormones. This is the very reason we keep upping the dosages to get the same benefit over a long period of time
wrong... first of all insulin is a hormone.
second thing: insulin resistance is largely dependent on many factors.
chronic hyperinsulinemia causes insulin resistance. high dose growth hormone causes insulin resistance. obesity causes insulin resistance. lack of activity causes insulin resistance.
dieting, working out, being active, calorie restriction etc all strongly increase insulin sensitivity.
the use of rapid acting insulin once, twice or even 3x a day wont do any harm AT ALL regarding insulin resistance...
anything longer than rapid acting analogues - MUCH different story !
its the same as with eating basically - if you chronically elevate insulin levels over baseline (by snacking on sugary shit every 2 hours like the average amerifat) youre gonna get insulin resistant. at least if youre inactive. using a long acting insulin analogue is pretty much the same.
rapid acting insulin does not cause insulin resistance (it may cause beta cell death at EXTREMELY high dosages, which would cause desensitization to insulin. but that does not happen with dosages we use)
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wrong... first of all insulin is a hormone.
second thing: insulin resistance is largely dependent on many factors.
chronic hyperinsulinemia causes insulin resistance. high dose growth hormone causes insulin resistance. obesity causes insulin resistance. lack of activity causes insulin resistance.
dieting, working out, being active, calorie restriction etc all strongly increase insulin sensitivity.
the use of rapid acting insulin once, twice or even 3x a day wont do any harm AT ALL regarding insulin resistance...
anything longer than rapid acting analogues - MUCH different story !
its the same as with eating basically - if you chronically elevate insulin levels over baseline (by snacking on sugary shit every 2 hours like the average amerifat) youre gonna get insulin resistant. at least if youre inactive. using a long acting insulin analogue is pretty much the same.
rapid acting insulin does not cause insulin resistance (it may cause beta cell death at EXTREMELY high dosages, which would cause desensitization to insulin. but that does not happen with dosages we use)
I do not get the same result with 50iu slin which I used to get about a decade back.
How would you explain thif
I stopped competing in 2009 to concentrate more on business.
Been at 220-230 at 6% for many many years now...
Each time I use slin to climb over 240 I need to use more slin than the previous time
I do not read books on drugs so not much technical knowledge ...lol
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you use high dose GH. 10iu legit pharma GH a day is probably enough to put you in a temporary diabetic state ...
of course genetics play a role too but these GH dosages wreck your fasting blood sugar and insulin sensitivity
GH causes the insulin resistance, not the insulin... unless you use long acting slin too
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you use high dose GH. 10iu legit pharma GH a day is probably enough to put you in a temporary diabetic state ...
of course genetics play a role too but these GH dosages wreck your fasting blood sugar and insulin sensitivity
GH causes the insulin resistance, not the insulin... unless you use long acting slin too
that explains why we need to up the dosage with slin and the GH to keep progressing and even to maintain.
Using slin keeps me from become a diabetic with all that hgh ...lol
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that explains why we need to up the dosage with slin and the GH to keep progressing and even to maintain.
Using slin keeps me from become a diabetic with all that hgh ...lol
well, not really since diabetics use slin too ;)
you essentially are diabetic since you need exogenous insulin to bring down your blood sugar... since chronically high blood sugar has a myriad of bad side effects...
slin keeps you "healthy" (well, funny to mention this word in here but thats just how it is basically) on high doses of GH
with high dose GH you simply NEED insulin
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well, not really since diabetics use slin too ;)
you essentially are diabetic since you need exogenous insulin to bring down your blood sugar... since chronically high blood sugar has a myriad of bad side effects...
slin keeps you "healthy" (well, funny to mention this word in here but thats just how it is basically) on high doses of GH
with high dose GH you simply NEED insulin
I am not diabetic... Just keep GH ratio at 1iu GH for 5iu slin..what I like personally
I have blasted pharma HGH to the tune of 16iu non stop for 2-3 years... Have real big joints so needed to fill up the muscle even more and there high dosages of everything
Won nationals...did not get myself the $500 pro card....lol...bodybuildi ng professionally was not my thing. Painkillers , nubain took a toll on my body....fucked my kidney filters...kidney test shoed traces of RBCs in my urine...that is when I decided to call it quits moreover business was growing..they call it hemoplasia or something lol
I need dmaa though.. all the tren and GH makes you sleepy as fuck
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depends
i can actually inject up to 10iu and dont eat any carbs at all and my blood sugar doesnt crash when im sitting at home and doing nothing
BUT
this is different if you do that pre workout
i once injected 6 or 7iu pre workout on empty stomach and didnt eat any carbs (i did carry around a powerade of course just in case)
believe me that was probably the most uncomfortable hour of my life
i just wanted to see how my body reacts
i was on the verge of fainting after every single set. extremely hypo all the time, blood sugar mustve been below 40-50 easily all the time, but i didnt carry my glucometer in the gym for obvious reasons lol
that was kind of a self test, i actually pushed through and completed the whole workout, but NEVER AGAIN.
i had only 2 thoughts in my head all the time
- why the fuck are you doing this?
- carbs carbs carbs carbs
That is some risky business lol..Glad you made it out alive lmao.. 15iu pwo could have been a totally different story.. At least you didn't have to experience anything bad to be more in-tuned with your body's reactions etc
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That is some risky business lol..Glad you made it out alive lmao.. 15iu pwo could have been a totally different story.. At least you didn't have to experience anything bad to be more in-tuned with your body's reactions etc
Make sure you don't lie down...just keep standing or walking around if you injected slin and got no food around.
5iu or more of slin without got my body to get shaky....
10iu slin with 10egg whites and 1.5 cup steel cut oats is my favorite meal. As time will pass your dosage of slin would need to go up just to maintain the muscle. This Jizmo due to inexperience will not know about.
Injecting slin round the clock is much easier. 10ius after every meal. You still need to build that dose.. And pharma HGH has to be in there or that mid section is going to get fucked after some time
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OK, ok... You guys twisted my arm enough here. Just loaded a slin pin with 15 units of humalog to pin pre workout today.
I hate to eat so much that I literally need the "gun to my head" so i eat enough and only slin can do that. Eat or pass out.
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I am not diabetic... Just keep GH ratio at 1iu GH for 5iu slin..what I like personally
I have blasted pharma HGH to the tune of 16iu non stop for 2-3 years... Have real big joints so needed to fill up the muscle even more and there high dosages of everything
whats your fasting blood sugar? it would most likely be extremely high if you didnt use slin... that essentially means youre diabetic. well, not clinically diabetic since its just TEMPORARY and caused by the GH. going off GH instantly reverses that.
but while on these dosages of GH you DO NEED INSULIN, otherwise your blood sugar will most likely be very high causing inflammation all over. probably 90% of all modern civilizational diseases are caused by that...
That is some risky business lol..Glad you made it out alive lmao.. 15iu pwo could have been a totally different story.. At least you didn't have to experience anything bad to be more in-tuned with your body's reactions etc
i actually did this to know EXACTLY how my body reacts...
insulin below 6-7ius doesnt even make me hypo even if i dont eat anything, IF IM NOT PHYSICALLY ACTIVE. my blood sugar may drop down to 70 or so but not further.
i wanted to see how that changes when youre physically active.
working out PLUS exo insulin obviously drops blood sugar much stronger than insulin alone.
this was not the first time i used insulin and didnt eat anything.
ive done numerous tests...
in the morning vs at night, on completely empty stomach, after meals, before meals, at rest, at the gym, right after gym etc
i measured blood sugar every 10 minutes or so when i trialled that.
i probably used up test strips for 50$ and pricked my fingers blue and purple during all the testing i did because i wanted to know EXACTLY how insulin works in my body.
but it was definitely the first AND LAST time i did that coupled with a workout.
there seems to be something magical somewhere right around the 10iu mark.
i assume the liver holds enough glycogen to balance out blood sugar for up to 7-8ius of exogenous slin or so. go over that and all liver glycogen gets used up in order to prevent hold blood sugar from crashing. thats kinda your bodys safety mechanism.
if i inject 10+ ius at rest i go hypo after exactly 35-40 minutes if i dont have anything in my stomach. blood sugar slowly starts dropping from the 25-30 minute mark (i assume by that time liver glycogen will have been emptied already), and 10 minutes later ill start shaking, getting desoriented and sweating.
time will pass your dosage of slin would need to go up just to maintain the muscle. This Jizmo due to inexperience will not know about.
well its the same as with AAS. of course over time youll need to increase dosages. that holds true for anything and everything.
its not due to insulin resistance, but simply because you have more muscle.
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OK, ok... You guys twisted my arm enough here. Just loaded a slin pin with 15 units of humalog to pin pre workout today.
I hate to eat so much that I literally need the "gun to my head" so i eat enough and only slin can do that. Eat or pass out.
a "Stay safe op" is def needed here lmao
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a "Stay safe op" is def needed here lmao
lmao
inb4 ritch mixes 150g dextrose in his gym bottle and has to throw up
take my advice and eat candy instead
easiest way to get down shittons of carbs, easily digested too
oh and FORCE YOURSELF TO TAKE YOUR WORKOUTS SLOW AT FIRST ! REST LONG !
slin+fast carbs give you tons of energy...
when i go all out for 2-3 sets in a row with low rest periods while the slin is peaking ill ALWAYS go hypo. i literally have to force myself to rest like 90 secs or so between sets
if i go by feel i always pound out 10 sets during the first 10 minutes of working out and then drop into a hypo period where i just sit there and feel like shit for 10 minutes lol
take it slow
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lmao
inb4 ritch mixes 150g dextrose in his gym bottle and has to throw up
take my advice and eat candy instead
easiest way to get down shittons of carbs, easily digested too
oh and FORCE YOURSELF TO TAKE YOUR WORKOUTS SLOW AT FIRST ! REST LONG !
slin+fast carbs give you tons of energy...
when i go all out for 2-3 sets in a row with low rest periods while the slin is peaking ill ALWAYS go hypo. i literally have to force myself to rest like 90 secs or so between sets
if i go by feel i always pound out 10 sets during the first 10 minutes of working out and then drop into a hypo period where i just sit there and feel like shit for 10 minutes lol
take it slow
Jiz, u ever feel like you are spending too much time, effort, health, money, on this shit? You got a pretty nice build you could probably maintain with just some TRt and mod blasts here and there. U ever feel like you are wasting your life a bit? Im just sayin cuz im 31 now and feel i really wasted alot of my youth worrying about gym and body stuff. I wish i picked up other skills or socialized more when i was younger
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Jiz, u ever feel like you are spending too much time, effort, health, money, on this shit? You got a pretty nice build you could probably maintain with just some TRt and mod blasts here and there. U ever feel like you are wasting your life a bit? Im just sayin cuz im 31 now and feel i really wasted alot of my youth worrying about gym and body stuff. I wish i picked up other skills or socialized more when i was younger
honestly - not at all... im a college student and my majors are easy as shit to me... im actually attending like twice as many courses vs my mates and still have plenty of free time to socialize, go out, spend time with the gf etc.
i live right next to the gym so im savin a lot of time there too.
i spend less money on bodybuilding than most people my age spend for partying and drugs.
before i was into fitness i easily spent 100-200€ a month on partying/alcohol/clubs.
i spend about the same for AAS and supps right now. the most expensive part is food by far. food is easily twice as much as AAS, supps, gym fee etc together...
well, the only part thats hard is the girlfriend thing.
we all know bodybuilding is an extremely selfish sport and can cost you your relationship...
for a woman its hard to deal with her man basically putting his health at risk on purpose for the sake of looking better.
most women i know are actually rather put off by the bodybuilder look. theyd rather have me either chubby or smaller with the beachboy physique.
plus if i ever told any woman the whole extent of when ive already done to my body in the past theyd probably put me into the loony bin
or 99% would think im a maniac
regarding the going out thing... im not the party guy anymore..
from about the age of 13 to 18 (yeah, drinking alcohol starts early here) i spent half my life partying, getting wasted, doing drugs etc...
that was for 5 years. as many great memories from that time i have, it was basically pointless.
a life like that just does not fulfill me. i dont need that in my life anymore.
bodybuilding makes me extremely content...
it has always filled a gap for me and created a purpose in my life, especially when there was nothing to hold on to, but even if life was perfect all around it just made everything even better.
i still go out and get wasted here and there but maybe every 2 months at best. sometimes you need it to give your mind a rest and just stop thinking about food/meals/training etc all the time, but anyway i love this lifestyle and it has just become part of me.
im a lot more down to earth now, i learned to appreciate sitting at the seaside with my girl, watching the sunset or just spending a chill day or night with my buddies talking about complete nonsense and just having a good time.
i dont feel like im missing out on anything... rather the opposite. i dont understand how someone my age can base the whole purpose of his life on getting drunk or getting wasted on shitty drugs.
end of rant :D
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honestly - not at all... im a college student and my majors are easy as shit to me... im actually attending like twice as many courses vs my mates and still have plenty of free time to socialize, go out, spend time with the gf etc.
i live right next to the gym so im savin a lot of time there too.
well, the girlfriend part is hard.
we all know bodybuilding is an extremely selfish sport and can cost you your relationship...
for a woman its hard to deal with her man basically putting his health at risk on purpose for the sake of looking better.
most women i know are actually rather put off by the bodybuilder look. theyd rather have me either chubby or smaller with the beachboy physique.
plus if i ever told any woman the whole extent of when ive already done to my body in the past theyd probably put me into the loony bin
or 99% would think im a maniac
regarding the going out thing... im not the party guy anymore..
from about the age of 13 to 18 (yeah, drinking alcohol starts early here) i spent half my life partying, getting wasted, doing drugs etc...
that was for 5 years. as many great memories from that time i have, it was basically pointless.
a life like that just does not fulfill me. i dont need that in my life anymore.
bodybuilding does. it has always filled a gap for me and created a purpose in my life, especially when there was nothing to hold on to.
i still go out and get wasted here and there but maybe every 2 months at best.
im a lot more down to earth now, i learned to appreciate sitting at the seaside with my girl, watching the sunset or just spending a chill day or night with my buddies talking about complete nonsense and just having a good time.
i dont feel like im missing out on anything... rather the opposite. i dont understand how someone my age can base the whole purpose of his life on getting drunk or getting wasted on shitty drugs.
end of rant :D
We think alike my friend...You go out and drink one night and get no pussy = one wasted night with negative impact on body composition and money..Everything comes down to a science..If i need to go have a couple drinks to stick it to a broad i've been talking to then so be it..At least there is some reward in what's going to happen...I'm not gonna go out looking and being thirsty for chicks and be thirsty for parties when anyone can put on a fake smile for their first couple weeks in school and get invited to every party known to man (especially if you're a good liar) after a few parties of the same shit the SMART ONES realize that they aren't progressing much...Why need to go look for whores when your body attracts enough of them? I wouldn't be able to live with myself being out all the time missing my meals and having a dad bod just so i can go to a Tim Mcgraw concert with a bunch of phaggots and prude bitches that wear cowboy boots and party with some bud light..I'd rather hit the gym hard, take my drugs and have the more mysterious lifestyle....The chicks put the tim mcgraw fags who are always smiling in the friendzone..While they prioritize and can't keep their eyes off of us with real priorities and are looking forward in life...For me to afford the drugs i also need a constant income..So that means i'm making money too..Keep that in mind...Just my opinion..
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haha i edited in my opinion about the money part...
honestly ive had my share of whores when i was younger
and looked like shit lol
obviously now its incredibly easy to pull the fake blond hair, fake tan, too much makeup, too little brain type of girls...
but that just doesnt do it for me...
all that effort for a single night, or maybe a couple nights with a girl that doesnt mean shit to you and annoys you any time she opens her mouth when you cant stick your dick in it? that feels so devoid of purpose too...
im still very young compared to most on here but a committed relationship is much much more fulfilling to me.
pulling whores in clubs is fun, i wont lie. its always exciting and satisfying to the ego when you get a hit, but i dont know.
i think when youre content with yourself you dont feel the need to do that all the time...
honestly i was about to give up on the bodybuilding lifestyle in the past for an ex gf...
but after a couple weeks i realized i couldnt do it. its just part of my character. you cant just saw off your left arm and pretend to be normal...
IF youre the relationship guy youll have to be sincere right from the start and find a girl who accepts who you are and loves you for who you are. the hardest part is when you gotta do some real talk about the drugs. but you wont ever be happy if you have to hide that shit either so thats the only option imo.
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An advice to all of you dumb girls here.....
Get money....yes money money money
Work hard, start a business, get a good job, study for college.
Whores coming running all over you
If you find yourself a soulmate nothing like it.
With money..you can drive your Lamborghini aventador with a top pornstar and her friends and spend your weekend in Palms Casino resort