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Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study.
"Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture," wrote Steve Baldwin in, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement," soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.
Baldwin is the executive director of the Council for National Policy in Washington, D.C.
"It is difficult to convey the dark side of the homosexual culture without appearing harsh," wrote Baldwin. "However, it is time to acknowledge that homosexual behavior threatens the foundation of Western civilization the nuclear family."
Though the homosexual community and much of the media scoff at such accusations, Baldwin who chaired the California Assembly's Education committee, where he fought against support for the homosexual agenda in the state's public schools says in his report that homosexual activists' "efforts to target children both for their own sexual pleasure and to enlarge the homosexual movement" constitute an "unmistakable" attack on "the family unit."
Baldwin's research is substantiated in a recently completed body of work written by http://drjudithreisman.org/ Dr. Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Education and author of numerous authoritative books debunking sexual myths, including "Kinsey, Crimes & Consequences."
In her thesis also written for the Regent University Law Review Reisman cited psychologist Eugene Abel, whose research found that homosexuals "sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls. "
Abel also found that non-incarcerated "child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender whose targets were males."
"The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering," said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. "Abel,s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls."
Jay Heavener, spokesman for http://www.pflag.org/ PFLAG - Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, counters that federal crime data refute claims that homosexuals molest children at higher rates than heterosexuals.
"According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), this claim is false," he told WND by e-mail. "The gay and lesbian community calls into question any dubious research which flies in the face of our own experience."
And Gary Schoener, a clinical psychologist who has been diagnosing and treating clergy abuse for 28 years, told Salon.com, "There are far more heterosexual cases than homosexual."
In terms of sheer numbers, that may be true. But in terms of numbers of children abused per offender, homosexuals abuse with far greater frequency; and boys, research shows, are the much-preferred target.
Baldwin says evidence he examined disproves the assertion that child molestation is more prevalent among heterosexuals. Both he and Reisman found that media coverage of adult homosexual abuse of minors is also slanted.
"The National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association (NLGJA) recently boasted that although homosexuals are less than two percent of the population, three-fourths of the people who decide the content of the front page of the New York Times are homosexual," Reisman wrote.
That one fact is especially noteworthy, experts point out, given the recent child sex scandals taking place within the American Catholic church.
A survey by WorldNetDaily of recent news reports found that rarely did the media describe priestly sexual abuse as "homosexual" or "gay" activity even though the worst incidents involved male-to-male contact, and a spate of investigative reports has revealed that the Vatican is concerned about an upsurge of homosexuals in seminary schools throughout the world.
Gay press promotes sex with children
Baldwin says his research not only "confirms that homosexuals molest children at a rate vastly higher than heterosexuals," but it found that "the mainstream homosexual culture" even "commonly promotes sex with children."
"The editorial board of the leading pedophile academic journal, Paidika, is dominated by prominent homosexual scholars such as San Francisco State University professor John DeCecco, who happens to edit the Journal of Homosexuality," Baldwin wrote.
During his research, he also found:
* The Journal of Homosexuality recently published a special double-issue entitled, "Male Intergenerational Intimacy," containing many articles portraying sex between men and minor boys as loving relationships. One article said parents should look upon the pedophile who loves their son "not as a rival or competitor, not as a theft of their property, but as a partner in the boy's upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home."
* In 1995 the homosexual magazine "Guide" said, "We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual" and "deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose. " The article went on to say: "Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children's sexuality we must do it for the children's sake."
* Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, "Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist": "In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it."
* In a study of advertisements in the influential homosexual newspaper, The Advocate, Reisman found ads for a "Penetrable Boy Doll available in three provocative positions. She also found that the number of erotic boy images in each issue of The Advocate averaged 14.
* Homosexual newspapers and travel publications advertise prominently for countries where boy prostitution is heavy, such as Burma, the Philippines, Sri Lanka and Thailand. Homosexuality 'youth-oriented'?
"Research on the homosexual lifestyle confirms it is almost exclusively a youth-oriented culture," Baldwin wrote. "Very few gays exhibit preference for older men."
"Some admit to focus on teenage boys," he said, "some on prepubescent boys, and many cross over between categories."
A 1988 study detailed in Baldwin's report found that most pedophiles even consider themselves to be "gay." According to the study, "Archives of Sexual Behavior," some 86 percent of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Also, the study found, the number of teenage male prostitutes who identify as homosexuals has risen from 10 percent to 60 percent in the past 15 years.
When asked what he thought about critics who attempt to debunk his research, Baldwin said the results speak for themselves.
"For them to say this theory is false is to call many of the homosexual movement's leaders liars," he said. "Most of my evidence comes right from the gay community."
"I managed to find enough evidence that my thesis child molestation is an integral part of the homosexual movement is a valid thesis," Baldwin told WorldNetDaily.
Other experts have also found a distinct pattern between child sex abusers and the incidence of homosexuality.
"How long can psychologists be in denial about the significance of the dark side, and ignore what it implies about the homosexual condition? And there's a matter of even greater concern. How long will psychologists eagerly throw open the door to gay life for every sexually confused teenager?" writes Joseph Nicolosi, Ph.D, on behalf of NARTH the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality a group that says it exists to "provide psychological understanding of the cause, treatment and behavior patterns associated with homosexuality, within the boundaries of a civil public dialogue."
The North American Man-Boy Love Association, or NAMBLA, is "a group that openly promotes sex with minor boys and claims that boy-lovers respond to the needs of the boys they love," Baldwin said in his report.
The group is often endorsed by "many of the homosexual movement's most prominent leaders," he said.
Advocacy moving to schools
Promotion of the "gay and lesbian lifestyle" is increasing in the nation's public schools.
A WND survey of homosexual-oriented websites found that almost every group has some sort of program to "educate" teachers, school administrators and other school employees about the homosexual lifestyle:
* GLSEN - the Gay Lesbian and Straight Education Network bills itself as "the largest national network of parents, students, educators and others" specifically formed to end "discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity/expression in K-12 schools. Two recent press released boasted of the Broward County (Fla.) school board approving GLSEN-sponsored "training for teachers."
* A student activist working with GLSEN officials has managed to "give voice" recently to "gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered students" at California schools; * PFLAG has created a national campaign called, "From Our House to the Schoolhouse," distributing to school officials - among other materials - a booklet entitled, "Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation and Youth: A Primer For Principals, Educators, & School Personnel. [Editor's note: Readers need the (Adobe PDF reader to open and read this file.)
Though most school-related programs are sold to administrators and parents as programs designed simply to end persecution of homosexuals and lesbians, none disclose what Baldwin says is compelling evidence that homosexuality is harmful to children.
"What does the academic literature say about the relationship between homosexuality and child molestation? Quite a bit, actually," he wrote, quoting data compiled by the Family Research Institute: "Scientific studies confirm a strong pedophilic predisposition among homosexuals."
The institute, after reviewing more than 19 studies and peer-reviewed reports in a 1985 "Psychological Reports" article, found that homosexuals account for between 25 and 40 percent of all child molestation.
"But this number is low," Baldwin says, "due to the fact that many reporters will not report if a child molester is a homosexual, even if he knows that to be the case."
http://www.rense.com/general24/reportpedophilia.htm
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Pedophilia is more common among gay and straight men , than lesbians and straight women.
Woooshhhhhhhhhh.
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Pedophilia is more common among gay and straight men , than lesbians and straight women.
Woooshhhhhhhhhh.
POOR attempt at deflection.
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any ethnic breakdown ?
from what i could see from watching TO CATCH A PREDATOR, is that most paedos seem to be straight, white males ???
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any ethnic breakdown ?
from what i could see from watching TO CATCH A PREDATOR, is that most paedos seem to be straight, white males ???
And Fat and bold.
Thick glasses maybe ?
Woooshhhhh
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Any correlation to studies showing that more church going conservatives tend to be self-hating homosexuals?
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Just read this in a law review, this is utter bullshit. Homos are regular people, some are killer, cheaters, pervs but most are good. They just enjoy the weener
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Just read this in a law review, this is utter bullshit. Homos are regular people, some are killer, cheaters, pervs but most are good. They just enjoy the weener
You're full of shit. If you fuck men and you are a man, you are anything but regular.
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You're full of shit. If you fuck men and you are a man, you are anything but regular.
The fuck do you care where a dude puts his wang?
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The fuck do you care where a dude puts his wang?
Really dude? You're asking me "Mr. Preacher Man" that question? Do I really need to answer this?
IT'S AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD!
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Really dude? You're asking me "Mr. Preacher Man" that question? Do I really need to answer this?
IT'S AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD!
Yeah I (think) I know your version of these things. what does the bible say about swearing?
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Yeah I (think) I know your version of these things. what does the bible say about swearing?
It's not my version dipshit. You're people have a habit of stealing things and changing things. So I can't ever expect you to tell the truth, it's against your nature. How about I tell you what the Bible says about your people...The Edomites sons and daughters of Esau.
No such thing as live and let live. Fuck that, if you're out of order, me and my authentic Hebrew brethren are going to let you know whether you like it or not.
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wow. that study starts off appearing legit, then if you read it, you realise that its a crusade by an obviously deluded author.
it has been discredited by other renowned experts..that should be enough.
a beat up. designed to create debates and arguments.
it cites a bunch of selective correlations- rather than providing the balance.
same old same old.
the old "pirate attacks in the Caribbean has risen at the exact same time that global temperatures have"...correlation and reasoning..
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It's not my version dipshit. You're people have a habit of stealing things and changing things. So I can't ever expect you to tell the truth, it's against your nature. How about I tell you what the Bible says about your people...The Edomites sons and daughters of Esau.
No such thing as live and let live. Fuck that, if you're out of order, me and my authentic Hebrew brethren are going to let you know whether you like it or not.
Ok genius, you're right 2500 years of biblical scholars are wrong. How's that abrupt "let you know" mentality worked out for your Hebrew brethren? I'll tell you, you are disportpotionly represented in jail, prison and on the dole. How about you smoke another joint and relax
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It's not my version dipshit. My people have a habit of not being able to read so we make shit up. So I can't ever expect you to tell the truth, it's against your nature. How about I tell you what the Bible says about your people...The Edomites sons and daughters of Esau.
No such thing as live and let live. Fuck that, if you're out of order, me and my authentic Hebrew brethren are going to let you know whether you like it or not.
fixed
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Legit lol :D
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I would say this is more of a "all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares" thing, if you catch my drift. It seems men are way more perverted than women, probably because of our testosterone levels. But, you can't really say shit like this, because it would make you homophobic. I don't think it's the case at all. We need to start calling things as they are.
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Really dude? You're asking me "Mr. Preacher Man" that question? Do I really need to answer this?
IT'S AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD!
Shut up wacko. You were posting about banging trannies not too long ago. ::)
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I would say this is more of a "all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares" thing, if you catch my drift. It seems men are way more perverted than women, probably because of our testosterone levels. But, you can't really say shit like this, because it would make you homophobic. I don't think it's the case at all. We need to start calling things as they are.
If you pay attention to his posts you'll notice he hates hebrews, arabs, mexicans, asians, homosexuals, etc. He's the kind of guy who thinks every latino is mexican and every asian is chinese.
It must be a shitty life when the only thing you can brag about is being white.
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It's not my version dipshit. You're people have a habit of stealing things and changing things. So I can't ever expect you to tell the truth, it's against your nature. How about I tell you what the Bible says about your people...The Edomites sons and daughters of Esau.
No such thing as live and let live. Fuck that, if you're out of order, me and my authentic Hebrew brethren are going to let you know whether you like it or not.
The fuck you mean "you people"?
No bigger waste of skin on this planet than blacks.
Period....end of discussion.
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1) this is coming from World Net Daily, a very extreme right wing website.
2) this is from 2002
3) the author of the study, Judith Reisman, is a professor at Liberty University, founded by Jerry Falwell. She has also blamed "homosexuality on “erototoxins,” or mind-altering chemicals, which she believes are emitted from pornography."
4) the major flaw in the study is that they label any male pedophile who has molested at least one male child as homosexual, even if he has dozens of female child victims, even if he's otherwise married to a women, and even if he's never had sex with a post pubescent male.
junk science at its best
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Being gay, transgender, bisexual are all mental disorders wether you like it or not we need a leader to enforce morals and instutionalize these that need help they are ruining the youths minds in USA.
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Really dude? You're asking me "Mr. Preacher Man" that question? Do I really need to answer this?
IT'S AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD!
Says who? The idiotic old men that God outsourced the task of writing his Biography to?
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4) the major flaw in the study is that they label any male pedophile who has molested at least one male child as homosexual, even if he has dozens of female child victims, even if he's otherwise married to a women, and even if he's never had sex with a post pubescent male.
Really? Can you back up this claim? I would be happy to see the proof..
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It's not my version dipshit. You're people have a habit of stealing things and changing things. So I can't ever expect you to tell the truth, it's against your nature. How about I tell you what the Bible says about your people...The Edomites sons and daughters of Esau.
No such thing as live and let live. Fuck that, if you're out of order, me and my authentic Hebrew brethren are going to let you know whether you like it or not.
You're really too much, guy.
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Really dude? You're asking me "Mr. Preacher Man" that question? Do I really need to answer this?
IT'S AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD!
the bible also says..... judge not lest ye be judged
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the bible also says..... judge not lest ye be judged
nothing to judge if your homo there is something wrong with you. if it scientifically doesnt make sense its wrong
if being gay is "normal" and "natures way" then lets put the gay men on one island and lesbians on another island come back in
100 years if there still there god doesnt exist ;D
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nothing to judge if your homo there is something wrong with you. if it scientifically doesnt make sense its wrong
if being gay is "normal" and "natures way" then lets put the gay men on one island and lesbians on another island come back in
100 years if there still there god doesnt exist ;D
Retarded simplification at its best. Let me guess, you're a Christian.
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(http://www.bnp.org.uk/sites/default/files/news/peter-tatchell-with-unison-in-the-background-labour25.jpg)
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I don't believe in capital punishment but, I would apply it to pedophiles every single case.
Scum of this earth.
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muscleman13 is on a mission to make friends at getbig. :D
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Retarded simplification at its best. Let me guess, you're a Christian.
no even close. let me guess your gay
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if being gay is "normal" and "natures way" then lets put the gay men on one island and lesbians on another island come back in
100 years if there still there god doesnt exist ;D
remove all the gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transexuals from society, and in 20 years you'd have another batch of LGBT in society. that is, we were all born from and raised by heterosexuals.
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Really dude? You're asking me "Mr. Preacher Man" that question? Do I really need to answer this?
IT'S AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD!
That's not what the bible says.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/homarsen.htm
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http://www.returnofkings.com/39739/male-homosexuals-have-become-a-public-health-threat (http://www.returnofkings.com/39739/male-homosexuals-have-become-a-public-health-threat)
Good article by the brothers from ROK.
Committing acts of violence against gays just because they're gay is wrong, but calling their lifestyle out as the health hazard that it is shouldn't be.
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You have to stop the mental illness early intervention and institutionalization to cure the mental disorder gays are just as dangerous as a 3rd world war to America, US has to cure this problem.
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The fuck you mean "you people"?
No bigger waste of skin on this planet than blacks.
Period....end of discussion.
Couldnt have said it better
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Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transexuals have always existed. It is just now we're more visible. Part of that is due to the internet. Growing up before, you might believe you're the only one, and you would hide it from society. Now with the internet, you realize you're not alone. You realize there are millions of people just like you. You have a sense of community. And you realize there is no reason to hide. Straight people, who before the internet might run into a gay person now and then, now also realize that gay people are pretty common (both definitions of the word).
All this hate you're spewing is a waste of time. Society has accepted LGBT people. We're not going back into the closet.
Bottom line is the culture war is over and you lost.
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Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transexuals have always existed. It is just now we're more visible. Part of that is due to the internet. Growing up before, you might believe you're the only one, and you would hide it from society. Now with the internet, you realize you're not alone. You realize there are millions of people just like you. You have a sense of community. And you realize there is no reason to hide. Straight people, who before the internet might run into a gay person now and then, now also realize that gay people are pretty common (both definitions of the word).
All this hate you're spewing is a waste of time. Society has accepted LGBT people. We're not going back into the closet.
Bottom line is the culture war is over and you lost.
Please explain.
Cavemen were cutting off their prehistoric peepees to become cavebroads?
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Just read this in a law review, this is utter bullshit. Homos are regular people, some are killer, cheaters, pervs but most are good. They just enjoy the weener
Lmao. Plain and simple.
Woooshhhhhh
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Sorry, just dropping in to see Prime's take on this. Probably hasn't seen it yet.
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Sorry, just dropping in to see Prime's take on this. Probably hasn't seen it yet.
Lol
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Cavemen were cutting off their prehistoric peepees to become cavebroads?
there have always been people who felt their gender is in conflict with their equipment. There have always been people who presented themselves as the opposite gender.
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there have always been people who felt their gender is in conflict with their equipment. There have always been people who presented themselves as the opposite gender.
But transsexual has a specific definition, correct? Which involves surgery. Just checking.
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remove all the gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transexuals from society, and in 20 years you'd have another batch of LGBT in society. that is, we were all born from and raised by heterosexuals.
True.
Same goes for all Paedophile's, Murders, Terrorist, Rapist's Etc.
Doesn't mean the rest of Society Has to put up with them.
Removing all these types to Separate islands Would at least
Make Life a lot Better for The Remainder of The Majority of People.
Which we are the Majority, Sometimes These days With such Loud
Mouthed Minorities & Their Human Rights it's Like The
Tail Wagging The Dog.
Wrong.
:)
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True.
Same goes for all Paedophile's, Murders, Terrorist, Rapist's Etc.
Doesn't mean the rest of Society Has to put up with them.
Removing all these types to Separate islands Would at least
Make Life a lot Better for The Remainder of The Majority of People.
Which we are the Majority, Sometimes These days With such Loud
Mouthed Minorities & Their Human Rights it's Like The
Tail Wagging The Dog.
Wrong.
:)
Think you missed his point, guy.
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Thats fine if they want everyone to know they have a mental illness just need to make bigger facilities to treat they're mental illness btw gays are a very small percentage of population you are overestimating your group along with transexuals. No red blooded American has to live with it you dont get it there is a cure for your mental illness.
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Thats fine if they want everyone to know they have a mental illness just need to make bigger facilities to treat they're mental illness btw gays are a very small percentage of population you are overestimating your group along with transexuals. No red blooded American has to live with it you dont get it there is a cure for your mental illness.
Punctuation would've really driven home your point here.
Next time, ok.
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But transsexual has a specific definition, correct? Which involves surgery. Just checking.
no. "Transsexual people experience a gender identity inconsistent or not culturally associated with their assigned sex, i.e. in which a person's assigned sex at birth conflicts with their psychological gender." Your definition would mean they're not transexual until they have the surgery. There were lots of transexuals living different than their gender before there was surgery or hormonal therapies.
That would be the same as saying I was straight until I had sex with another guy at age 20, then instantly became gay. When in fact I have been attracted to guys as far back as I can remember, age 7 and before.
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no. "Transsexual people experience a gender identity inconsistent or not culturally associated with their assigned sex, i.e. in which a person's assigned sex at birth conflicts with their psychological gender." Your definition would mean they're not transexual until they have the surgery. There were lots of transexuals living different than their gender before there was surgery or hormonal therapies.
That would be the same as saying I was straight until I had sex with another guy at age 20, then instantly became gay. When in fact I have been attracted to guys as far back as I can remember, age 7 and before.
Ok, so a transsexual is in the wrong body; and a transvestite, then, is just in the wrong clothes. So why is the costume-wearer under the gay umbrella, when we're constantly beaten over the head with how they're not always gay?
And where is the gender/orientation vs. mental disorder line, Tim? Seems we're getting pretty close here, no?
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4) the major flaw in the study is that they label any male pedophile who has molested at least one male child as homosexual, even if he has dozens of female child victims, even if he's otherwise married to a women, and even if he's never had sex with a post pubescent male.
Really? Can you back up this claim? I would be happy to see the proof..
Still waiting Tim..
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Still waiting Tim..
First, from your own article:
Jay Heavener, spokesman for http://www.pflag.org/ PFLAG - Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, counters that federal crime data refute claims that homosexuals molest children at higher rates than heterosexuals.
"According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), this claim is false," he told WND by e-mail. "The gay and lesbian community calls into question any dubious research which flies in the face of our own experience."
and googling the title of the report mentioned in your article, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement", points us to http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/tag/steven-baldwin which states
As might be expected, Baldwin is no friend of the gay community. His article written for the Regent University Law Review, Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement, is a recitation of fabrications and oft-repeated but debunked demonizations.
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The thesis is breathtaking in its dishonesty.
As we have shown, the premises behind such claims are based on the false assumption that every adult who molests a child of the same sex is, by default, homosexual even if he identifies as heterosexual, is married, and has a long string of opposite sex victims.
which then points to http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,002.htm where lots of evidence is given on how anti-gay "researchers" distort the data to fit their agenda. such as
During the 1992 campaign for Colorado’s Amendment 2 (which would have barred local anti-discrimination laws based on sexual orientation), the group supporting the amendment, Colorado For Family Values, repeated the charge that 3% of the population was responsible for 30% of all child molestation cases. But Denver-area doctors, caseworkers and investigators knew that these charges didn’t match their own experience.
Dr. Carole Jenny was the director of the Child Advocacy and Protection Team at Denver's Childrens Hospital, and she also directed medical programs at the C. Henry Kempe National Center for the Prevention and Treatment of Child Abuse and Neglect. Dr. Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 269 medical records of Denver-area children who were sexually abused by adults. Of 50 male children, 37 (74%) were molested by men who had been in a heterosexual relationship with the child’s relative. Three were molested by women, five were molested by both parents, and three others were molested by non-relatives. Only one perpetrator could be identified as being possibly homosexual in his adult behavior.
Let’s consider what this means. If these men who abused boys in this study were in our stadium, all but one would have answered “no” to the question “Are you gay?” And not only did they say they were not gay, they were married, had girlfriends, or were otherwise known to have sexual relationships with women. If law enforcement had been looking for the perpetrators among gay men, they never would have found them. They would have missed 49 of these 50 sexual predators because they would have been hidden among the 9,700 in our stadium who said they were not gay.
Dr. Jenny and her associates concluded that even if you use the worst case possibilities in their sample, no more than 3.1% of child sexual abuse cases reported to the Denver clinic were abused by someone who could be identified as possibly being gay, a proportion that closely matches the proportion of openly gay men and women overall.
and then concludes
It doesn’t matter how often the lie is repeated; it still remains false. Dr. Michael R. Stevenson conducted an exhaustive review of the literature in 2000, and concluded that “a gay man is no more likely than a straight man to perpetrate sexual activity with children,” and “cases of perpetration of sexual behavior with a pre-pubescent child by an adult lesbian are virtually nonexistent”. The research is so strong that the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatrists and the American Psychological Association are on record saying that there is no relationship between homosexuality and child sexual abuse.
These anti-gay activists know that their claims are false. They’ve read the research from the most knowledgeable experts in the field — the same research I reviewed here in this article. They must know that the falsehoods they are spreading contradict what the researchers themselves are saying.
But they keep spreading their accusations because they know how effective they are. Every parent would consider it his or her worst nightmare to discover that their innocent child has been sexually violated. And anti-gay activists feed on that fear to further their agenda because, as Colorado for Family Values founder Tony Marco observed, “It is easier to nauseate than it is to educate.”
read the whole report http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,002.htm
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Ok, so a transsexual is in the wrong body; and a transvestite, then, is just in the wrong clothes. So why is the costume-wearer under the gay umbrella, when we're constantly beaten over the head with how they're not always gay?
cross dressing is a fetish for some, a halloween costume for others. A way to be something different for a few hours. Anything different, especially wrt gender, was labeled queer.
And where is the gender/orientation vs. mental disorder line, Tim? Seems we're getting pretty close here, no?
bigorexia could be considered a mental disorder.
In the past, homosexual attraction was considered a mental disorder. Lots of treatments were tried and none of them worked. In fact the treatments caused unbearable suffering and many deaths. finally it was realized that homosexual attraction was not a mental disorder, that gays and lesbians lived happy and productive lives.
And people who feel they were born the wrong gender were treated as having a mental disorder. Various treatments were tried to get them to accept their birth gender, none worked. In fact research shows that almost all gender non-conforming children know by age 5, and that their views don't change as they grow into adulthood. And the attempted suicide rate of transgender adolescents is over 40%. So, if you find that your child is gender non-conforming, and you don't want to risk a 40% chance of suicide in adolescences, you let your child express him/herself as they wish. Then before adolescences, if the child still wishes to transition, you let the child take medicines to suppress their adolescent hormones until they'r older, usually 18, when they can decide whether to fully transition. By suppressing the "wrong" adolescence, they will look completely "normal" after transitioning.
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So at what point doe pedophiles start screaming that they were born this way, it's not a disease, and that society should accept them and their lifestyle? How long after that are there advocates for them and make this a social norm as well? Where is the line drawn?
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So at what point doe pedophiles start screaming that they were born this way, it's not a disease, and that society should accept them and their lifestyle? How long after that are there advocates for them and make this a social norm as well? Where is the line drawn?
They already have that recognition, in Africa, India and the Middle East.
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They already have that recognition, in Africa, India and the Middle East.
What?! ???
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So at what point doe pedophiles start screaming that they were born this way, it's not a disease, and that society should accept them and their lifestyle? How long after that are there advocates for them and make this a social norm as well? Where is the line drawn?
So true!!! Why does homosexuals have rights but other sickos doesnt?
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So at what point doe pedophiles start screaming that they were born this way, it's not a disease, and that society should accept them and their lifestyle? How long after that are there advocates for them and make this a social norm as well? Where is the line drawn?
There are such groups that exist or have existed. In the UK, there was a group called the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) back in the mid 70's-80's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
In America, you had NAMBLA. Interestingly, many of NAMBLA's prominent members such as Bill Andriette and Allen Ginsberg, were homosexuals who were also prominent members in the gay rights movement.
Even a man seen as a hero within the gay community, Harvey Milk, is believed to have sexual relationships with underage boys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man-Boy_Love_Association
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What?! ???
Normal cultural practice..
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Interestingly, many of NAMBLA's prominent members such as Bill Andriette and Allen Ginsberg, were homosexuals who were also prominent members in the gay rights movement.
Even a man seen as a hero within the gay community, Harvey Milk, is believed to have sexual relationships with underage boys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man-Boy_Love_Association
And you won't see that on CNN..
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wow. that study starts off appearing legit, then if you read it, you realise that its a crusade by an obviously deluded author.
it has been discredited by other renowned experts..that should be enough.
a beat up. designed to create debates and arguments.
it cites a bunch of selective correlations- rather than providing the balance.
same old same old.
the old "pirate attacks in the Caribbean has risen at the exact same time that global temperatures have"...correlation and reasoning..
Why defend sick, perverted people?
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Why defend sick, perverted people?
Retard alert... He's defending logic and critical thinking, something a spastic like you will never have.
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I always felt bad for The Frugal Gourmet. It sure was something to see the press railroad him as they did. Kinda nice to see the same Puritans relegated to the lunatic fringe 20 years on.
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Freemasonry's Secret Homosexual Agenda
October 22, 2013
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(Left, Albert Pike 1809-1891)
(I didn't write this article but it inspired a "eureka" moment. Of course! This explains why so many politicians are gay, and why homosexuality and pederasty are being foisted on us. Why the UK elite is both Masonic and gay. Why phallic obelisks are everywhere. I edited a little. Emphasis mine. This was first posted last August. -HM) - See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/_left_albert_pike_1809-1891by.html#sthash.2IzEi5bn.dpufThis article, first posted in 2009, inspired a "eureka" moment. Of course!
This is why so many politicians are gay, why heterosexuality is being repressed and
homosexuality and pederasty foisted on us instead.
It explains why the elite is gay, and phallic obelisks are everywhere. Humanity has been
inducted into a pagan sex cult. This involves "gendercide" - i.e. gender genocide.
Pike states that an initiate "commemorates in sacramental observance this mysterious passion; and while partaking of the raw flesh of the victim, seems to be invigorated by a fresh draught from the fountain of universal life....Hence the significance of the phallus." (p.393)
"Freemasonry's Connection to the Homosexual Movement"
By "Heterosexuals for a Moral Environment"
(Edited by henrymakow.com)
The esoteric all-male group known as Freemasonry (or Masonry) has been connected to homosexuality by a number of researchers.
"Why?" you may ask.
Albert Pike was Sovereign Grand Commander of the (Masonic) Scottish Rite's Southern Jurisdiction from 1859-1891. He published a book called Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in 1871. Citations from Pike's magnum opus will be featured here.
FREEMASONS HAVE A SECRET AGENDA
Like other esoteric groups and some fraternities, the Masons have secret doctrines and initiations. The homosexual agenda is hidden from the membership.
Now, as Pike mysteriously put it, Freemasonry "conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it."
Instead of Masons stating their secrets secretly, they only obliquely impart them. Pike states: "What the Chiefs of the Order really believed and taught, is indicated to the Adepts by the hints contained in the high degrees of Free-masonry."
Pike again: "The symbols and ceremonies of Masonry have more than one meaning. They rather conceal than disclose the Truth. They hint it only."
More: "We have hints, and not details...hints of the true objects and purposes of the Mysteries." (The "Mysteries" are secret Masonic "Truths" and secret initiatory rituals.)
Pike speaks in enigmas because he can only hint at Masonic secrets. Masons take oaths not to reveal the group's secrets.
Upper-level Masons even keep secrets from lower-level Masons. According to Pike, a lower-level Mason "is intentionally misled by false interpretations [of Masonic symbols]. It is not intended that he shall understand them [the symbols]; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry."
Lower-level Masons are just dupes being used by the upper-level ones, the so-called "Princes of Masonry."
HOMOSEXUALITY
Are Masons using their power and influence to try to spread homosexual "values"? In the following enigmatic words, Pike seems to be saying that Mason [adepts] engage in homosexual oral sex.
He states that an initiate "commemorates in sacramental observance this mysterious passion; and while partaking of the raw flesh of the victim, seems to be invigorated by a fresh draught from the fountain of universal life....Hence the significance of the phallus." (p.393)
As is his wont, Pike does not explain these words. For example, he does not spell out what he means by "this mysterious passion." But elsewhere in the book he twice notes that phallic worship is a part of their "Ancient Mysteries."
Not only does homosexual sex apparently play a role in Masonry, but so do homosexual orgies.
Pike, speaking in general of a newly initiated member, says: "he mingles with the crowd of Initiates, and, crowned with flowers, celebrates with them the holy orgies."
Needless to say, Pike does not define "holy orgy." In at least two other locations in his book he mentions that orgies are associated with Masonic initiations. [Pike has a reputation for indulging in debaucheries as well as Satanic butchery. HM]
HETEROPHOBIA
Now to return to Masonry---which, we should keep in mind---is an all-male group, Pike provides serious evidence of organizational sexism in Masonry via these words: "The love of woman cannot die out; and it has a terrible and uncontrollable fate."
As usual, he does not explain what he means by this startling statement (but the heterophobic meaning seems obvious enough).
Elsewhere he stated that "Christianity...gave to woman her proper rank and influence; it regulated domestic life."
In some circles, it is a common opinion, misguided or not, that Christianity, especially Catholicism, places women at a lower rank than men because women cannot become priests or bishops or cardinals or popes' and because wives are supposed to be submissive or subordinate to their husbands, generally speaking.
In sum, while Pike does not explicitly declare that women are inferior to men, or that they are unworthy of love, but he does seem to strongly hint at that.
Freemasonry is still a force in America and the world. The fact that this group is evidently biased against women (who cannot join) and biased in favor of homosexual relationships should not go unnoticed, and neither should the fact this group is using its influence to try to impose pro-homosexual "values" on the public.
We'll end with a quote from Masonic author Carl H. Claudy: "The real secrets of Masonry are never told, not even mouth to ear. For the real secret of Masonry is spoken to your heart, and from it to that of your brother [Mason]. Never the language made for tongue may speak it; it is uttered only in the language of the eye, in those manifestations of that love which a man has for his friend, which passeth all other loves, even that of woman."
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most male homosexuals have been sexually molested as kids by older men. I dont see what s surprising there. Obviously they reproduce what happened to them.
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most male homosexuals have been sexually molested as kids by older men. I dont see what s surprising there. Obviously they reproduce what happened to them.
Any impartial evidence to back up this ludicrous statement?
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Any impartial evidence to back up this ludicrous statement?
any impartial evidence backing up the oposite statement?
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cross dressing is a fetish for some, a halloween costume for others. A way to be something different for a few hours. Anything different, especially wrt gender, was labeled queer.
bigorexia could be considered a mental disorder.
In the past, homosexual attraction was considered a mental disorder. Lots of treatments were tried and none of them worked. In fact the treatments caused unbearable suffering and many deaths. finally it was realized that homosexual attraction was not a mental disorder, that gays and lesbians lived happy and productive lives.
And people who feel they were born the wrong gender were treated as having a mental disorder. Various treatments were tried to get them to accept their birth gender, none worked. In fact research shows that almost all gender non-conforming children know by age 5, and that their views don't change as they grow into adulthood. And the attempted suicide rate of transgender adolescents is over 40%. So, if you find that your child is gender non-conforming, and you don't want to risk a 40% chance of suicide in adolescences, you let your child express him/herself as they wish. Then before adolescences, if the child still wishes to transition, you let the child take medicines to suppress their adolescent hormones until they'r older, usually 18, when they can decide whether to fully transition. By suppressing the "wrong" adolescence, they will look completely "normal" after transitioning.
And what's the suicide rate for those who go through with the transition?
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any impartial evidence backing up the oposite statement?
yes, none of hundreds of homosexuals that I know were molested. Yet a few heterosexuals I know were.
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So at what point doe pedophiles start screaming that they were born this way, it's not a disease, and that society should accept them and their lifestyle? How long after that are there advocates for them and make this a social norm as well? Where is the line drawn?
consenting adults. that's where we draw the line. Children and animals cannot give consent.
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In America, you had NAMBLA. Interestingly, many of NAMBLA's prominent members such as Bill Andriette and Allen Ginsberg, were homosexuals who were also prominent members in the gay rights movement.
Even a man seen as a hero within the gay community, Harvey Milk, is believed to have sexual relationships with underage boys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man-Boy_Love_Association
I think that wiki page is complete BS. NAMBLA was a tiny fringe group in the late 1970s of a few dozen people. It was never part of the gay rights movement and has never had any power. I think the wiki page and the website were created by anti-gay people to smear the gay community.
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any impartial evidence backing up the oposite statement?
Circular reasoning of peace. For someone who continually harps on about the need for education, and the use of evidence, this aberration is indeed bizarre.
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consenting adults. that's where we draw the line. Children and animals cannot give consent.
Any idea if LGBT will eventually add an I to their acronym in order to represent adult incest practitioners as well?
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I think that wiki page is complete BS. NAMBLA was a tiny fringe group in the late 1970s of a few dozen people. It was never part of the gay rights movement and has never had any power. I think the wiki page and the website were created by anti-gay people to smear the gay community.
Tiny fringe group or not (...in 1995, an undercover detective discovered that there were 1,100 people on the rolls), don't you find it alarming that a significant number of NAMBLA's prominent members were also prominent figures in the gay rights movement? For instance, it's found David Thorstad was also a former president of the Gay Activists Alliance.
The most recognized and celebrated gay rights activist in the UK - Peter Tatchell, has also made remarks supporting pederasty. Harvey Milk also has some allegations against him in regards to this issue too.
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consenting adults. that's where we draw the line. Children and animals cannot give consent.
Animals can't say no either. Bit of a grey area there.
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Tiny fringe group or not (...in 1995, an undercover detective discovered that there were 1,100 people on the rolls), don't you find it alarming that a significant number of NAMBLA's prominent members were also prominent figures in the gay rights movement? For instance, it's found David Thorstad was also a former president of the Gay Activists Alliance.
The most recognized and celebrated gay rights activist in the UK - Peter Tatchell, has also made remarks supporting pederasty. Harvey Milk also has some allegations against him in regards to this issue too.
As I said, that wiki page is suspect. It claims that NAMBLA is still active. There is no outside evidence of that. Anyone can register a domain name. the nambla.org website looks like it was made to turn people against gay rights. NAMBLA had no prominent members. It has always been a fringe group that all gay rights leaders have avoided since the 70s.
Now advocating the standardization of age of consent laws is not the same as supporting pederasty. Until very recently, age of consent for girls was as low as 13 in some US states. Not too long ago age of consent for both boys and girls was 14 in Canada. Today in the US it is 18, which seems a bit puritanical. Suggesting that teens are already sexually active and can consent at 16 does not make you a pederast.
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Animals can't say no either. Bit of a grey area there.
sorry. give consent means say yes. animals can't say yes. stop fucking your sheep
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most male homosexuals have been sexually molested as kids by older men. I dont see what s surprising there. Obviously they reproduce what happened to them.
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As I said, that wiki page is suspect. It claims that NAMBLA is still active. There is no outside evidence of that. Anyone can register a domain name. the nambla.org website looks like it was made to turn people against gay rights. NAMBLA had no prominent members. It has always been a fringe group that all gay rights leaders have avoided since the 70s.
Now advocating the standardization of age of consent laws is not the same as supporting pederasty. Until very recently, age of consent for girls was as low as 13 in some US states. Not too long ago age of consent for both boys and girls was 14 in Canada. Today in the US it is 18, which seems a bit puritanical. Suggesting that teens are already sexually active and can consent at 16 does not make you a pederast.
This second paragraph you wrote is kind of disturbing
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This second paragraph you wrote is kind of disturbing
which part? that for most of US history straight men had no problem with age of consent for girls being 13 ? Or the suggestion that maybe we've overreacted by raising it to 18? There are 19 year olds who have to register for life as a sex offender for having sex with their 17 year old girlfriend or boyfriend.
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most male homosexuals have been sexually molested as kids by older men. I dont see what s surprising there. Obviously they reproduce what happened to them.
This is total BS.
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which part? that for most of US history straight men had no problem with age of consent for girls being 13 ? Or the suggestion that maybe we've overreacted by setting it to 18? There are 19 year olds who have to register for life as a sex offender for having sex with their 17 year old girlfriend or boyfriend.
Shit, every man I know is a statutory rapist.
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Really deep down most people are disturbed by how gays are free to roam they should be arrested and institutionalized until they are cured. Just think if your son daughter witnessed two men or women kissing in public that is mental trauma that will haunt our kids for life. Homos do not belong in a free society until they are turned hetro.
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This has to start soon car dealerships should refuse to sell to homos gas station not give them gas grocery markets refuse to sell, grass roots!
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Really deep down most people are disturbed by how gays are free to roam they should be arrested and institutionalized until they are cured.
A hundred years ago that really happened.
Just think if your son daughter witnessed two men or women kissing in public that is mental trauma that will haunt our kids for life.
Total BS. It would be healthy for kids, it will not haunt them. They will begin to see the diversity in human behavior.
Homos do not belong in a free society until they are turned hetro.
Homos do not turn hetero. You are a total idiot.
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Just think if your son daughter witnessed two men or women kissing in public that is mental trauma that will haunt our kids for life.
you don't watch tv much, do you? especially the stuff popular with the tween demographic. Many gay story lines. How many times did Klaine kiss?
Or youtube? The biggest stars on youtube, especially with 12-16 year old girls, are gay boys. (and they often kiss) Connor Franta, Joey Graceffa, Troy Sivan, Tyler Oakley, Mark E Miller, the guys at ASAPThought, The Rhodes Bros, Dan and Phil (ok, maybe), Alx James (came out just last week). Any day now, the rest of O2L will be bursting out. Willing to lay odds on Cameron Dallas and Nash Grier too. On the female side, Ingrid Nilsen, Hanna Hart, and a bunch of others. Kids today know lots of gays and lesbians.
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Really deep down most people are disturbed by how gays are free to roam they should be arrested and institutionalized until they are cured. Just think if your son daughter witnessed two men or women kissing in public that is mental trauma that will haunt our kids for life. Homos do not belong in a free society until they are turned hetro.
When two women are kissing, I feel something, but I don't think it's trauma. Unless trauma is when my penis gets harder than Chinese arithmetic.
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When two women are kissing, I feel something, but I don't think it's trauma. Unless trauma is when my penis gets harder than Chinese arithmetic.
I guess you could class it as an internal hemorrhage in your penis as it's pooling with blood? :D
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you don't watch tv much, do you? especially the stuff popular with the tween demographic. Many gay story lines. How many times did Klaine kiss?
Or youtube? The biggest stars on youtube, especially with 12-16 year old girls, are gay boys. (and they often kiss) Connor Franta, Joey Graceffa, Troy Sivan, Tyler Oakley, Mark E Miller, the guys at ASAPThought, The Rhodes Bros, Dan and Phil (ok, maybe), Alx James (came out just last week). Any day now, the rest of O2L will be bursting out. Willing to lay odds on Cameron Dallas and Nash Grier too. On the female side, Ingrid Nilsen, Hanna Hart, and a bunch of others. Kids today know lots of gays and lesbians.
thats because gays and trannys are pushed down our throats by mass media thinking its cool and normal. if u dare say anything wrong about gays in the media your done.
next thing you know bestiality is perfectly normal. dont say it wont happen because we said that about gays and trannys
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which part? that for most of US history straight men had no problem with age of consent for girls being 13 ? Or the suggestion that maybe we've overreacted by raising it to 18? There are 19 year olds who have to register for life as a sex offender for having sex with their 17 year old girlfriend or boyfriend.
I agree that the age of consent can be a grey area but what do you think the age of consent should be?
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thats because gays and trannys are pushed down our throats by mass media thinking its cool and normal. if u dare say anything wrong about gays in the media your done.
next thing you know bestiality is perfectly normal. dont say it wont happen because we said that about gays and trannys
That is sadly likely so true.
What was once was not acceptable behaviour now is.
The line has Been crossed & these Perverts will keep Pushing
Their Sicko Agenda & Doing there best to make it 'Normal' acceptable
Behaviour.
I accept that I am going to be the outspoken one in my circles
It doesn't Stop me saying what is wrong is wrong,
And Privately so many agree wholeheartedly They just fear being
Condemned & Labeled.
Fcuking weird back to front world we are being coerced to live in.
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That is sadly likely so true.
What was once was not acceptable behaviour now is.
The line has Been crossed & these Perverts will keep Pushing
Their Sicko Agenda & Doing there best to make it 'Normal' acceptable
Behaviour.
I accept that I am going to be the outspoken one in my circles
It doesn't Stop me saying what is wrong is wrong,
And Privately so many agree wholeheartedly They just fear being
Condemned & Labeled.
Fcuking weird back to front world we are being coerced to live in.
So, check out. You won't be missed. ::)
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There's truth to his statement. Many homosexuals, as well as many in the collective adult entertainment industry, have had their sexualities damaged by a trusted confidante.
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So, check out. You won't be missed. ::)
Like wise your learned good self.
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you don't watch tv much, do you? especially the stuff popular with the tween demographic. Many gay story lines. How many times did Klaine kiss?
Or youtube? The biggest stars on youtube, especially with 12-16 year old girls, are gay boys. (and they often kiss) Connor Franta, Joey Graceffa, Troy Sivan, Tyler Oakley, Mark E Miller, the guys at ASAPThought, The Rhodes Bros, Dan and Phil (ok, maybe), Alx James (came out just last week). Any day now, the rest of O2L will be bursting out. Willing to lay odds on Cameron Dallas and Nash Grier too. On the female side, Ingrid Nilsen, Hanna Hart, and a bunch of others. Kids today know lots of gays and lesbians.
Sounds like "12-16 year old girls" aren't the only fans -- at least when you're around.
How old are you again, and how is it you're not proving the point of the thread?
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Quote from: timfogarty on Today at 06:29:12
you don't watch tv much, do you? especially the stuff popular with the tween demographic. Many gay story lines. How many times did Klaine kiss?
Or youtube? The biggest stars on youtube, especially with 12-16 year old girls, are gay boys. (and they often kiss) Connor Franta, Joey Graceffa, Troy Sivan, Tyler Oakley, Mark E Miller, the guys at ASAPThought, The Rhodes Bros, Dan and Phil (ok, maybe), Alx James (came out just last week). Any day now, the rest of O2L will be bursting out. Willing to lay odds on Cameron Dallas and Nash Grier too. On the female side, Ingrid Nilsen, Hanna Hart, and a bunch of others. Kids today know lots of gays and lesbians.
Sounds like "12-16 year old girls" aren't the only fans -- at least when you're around.
How old are you again, and how is it you're not proving the point of the thread?
Ha, well said.
Las Vegas. 👍
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Ha, well said.
Las Vegas. 👍
His reply shows that he feels or felt bulletproof.
Proof of how sick this shit has become.
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His reply shows that he feels or felt bulletproof. Proof of how sick this shit has become.
Again you are correct.
It's the likes of us who now dare stand up & voice
How bad, sick & perverted these types are.
Who are now tried to be labeled or made to feel
They are out of sync.
Wrong we are not, & won't be Shut up Either.
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Sounds like "12-16 year old girls" aren't the only fans -- at least when you're around.
How old are you again, and how is it you're not proving the point of the thread?
Yes, I watch so much youtube that Google Ads thinks I'm an adolescent girl. (If I have to watch one more Ugg commercial!!!) But all the gay youtubers I mentioned are in their 20s and 30s. And by the way, they're making a ton of money. Though most youtubers don't make any money, the top ones are pulling in 7 and 8 figures.
His reply shows that he feels or felt bulletproof.
As I said, the culture war is over. We won.
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As I said, the culture war is over. We won.
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Sadly True to some extent in the fcuked up thinking
Countries of western world.
On the surface many are polite.
On their own their true feelings come out.
Also go try the same thing over in Russia & many other
Countries that have yet to be Ruined by such thinking.
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Yes, I watch so much youtube that Google Ads thinks I'm an adolescent girl. (If I have to watch one more Ugg commercial!!!) But all the gay youtubers I mentioned are in their 20s and 30s. And by the way, they're making a ton of money. Though most youtubers don't make any money, the top ones are pulling in 7 and 8 figures.
As I said, the culture war is over. We won.
May I ask what made you decide to say this?
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Tim fogarty, you seem a bit ped-ish. Your comment about same sex relationships below age 18, and your feelings towards it, are as I said, a bit creepy.
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You may think you won for now but God will see to it your kind be put in their place. Trump is running I dont think his image of making America great again includes homos out and prancing around the world laughs at the stupid acceptance by liberals in this country.
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dlbphan is trolling...another suspected pedo
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As I said, the culture war is over. We won.
Cool, then. Mission accomplished. Now please tell your peeps to shut the fuck up about it.