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Title: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: thegamechanger on June 17, 2015, 01:20:57 PM
Here's arnold at 210 pounds for stay hungry. At his biggest i think he was 240-250 pounds.



Notice that freddy kruger is helping arnold before he goes on stage  :D
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: robcguns on June 17, 2015, 01:25:08 PM
Here's arnold at 210 pounds for stay hungry. At his biggest i think he was 240-250 pounds.



Notice that freddy kruger is helping arnold before he goes on stage  :D
Looks great at 210.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: SuperTed on June 17, 2015, 01:28:38 PM
He had the structure to look good at almost any weight. I always thought Stay Hungry was an under rated Arnie film.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 17, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Rami on June 17, 2015, 01:34:21 PM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

lol
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: milone79 on June 17, 2015, 01:35:27 PM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size


what drugs did you overdose on???? is tis real life???
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Waller on June 17, 2015, 01:35:59 PM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

His physique is what made the name in the first place.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 17, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
His physique is what made the name in the first place.

I'll agree for his time he was the best..but i'm implying people comparing physiques like colemans to Arnolds it's not fair because bodybuilding back then cannot match up to bodybuilding in the 90's because there were different compounds, supplementation, and genetic black freaks that were able to be sponsored and finally able to afford what they needed to thrive..this is why arnold is overrated..He is an ambassador for the sport and many wouldn't be here today without him..But COMPARING his physique in hit time to 90's physiques is ridiculous
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: robcguns on June 17, 2015, 01:58:13 PM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

You would be arguing alot of people
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: hench on June 17, 2015, 03:31:57 PM
arnold could look complete and developed at stupid low bodyweights.
(http://i.imgur.com/Xiv0Umc.jpg)
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: K A N N I B A L on June 17, 2015, 03:37:43 PM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

Agree 100%
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Coffeed on June 17, 2015, 05:10:13 PM
I always felt like if it wasn't Arnold, Dave Draper would have carried the torch and catapult bodybuilding into the national spotlight.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: forillagorilla on June 17, 2015, 06:17:09 PM
Agree 100%

Lol. Morons...  If Arnold competed today he would win.. He would obviously not look like he did in the 70's - he would do what it takes to win.. He wins at EVERYTHING  he does... He knows he is better than other people and that makes him unbeatable.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 17, 2015, 08:21:10 PM
I always felt like if it wasn't Arnold, Dave Draper would have carried the torch and catapult bodybuilding into the national spotlight.

Maybe on the Covers of M&F

on stage there was no way the Blonde Bomber could stand next to Sergio Oliva and "carry the torch"   no way.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 17, 2015, 08:23:52 PM
Not only was Arnold big enough at 210 but he could say he was 280 and no one would've dare to doubt it ....It was the 70's !

People was utra skinny back then .... 




WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Master Blaster on June 17, 2015, 09:50:46 PM
Overrated versus size? Or overrated versus the body most young men would want?

You are either deluded or just super fucking stupid.

(http://www.phootoscelebrities.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/arnold-schwarzenegger-smile-photos.jpg)
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Master Blaster on June 17, 2015, 09:53:14 PM
It's just amazing how fantasmogoriphically how dumb people are. It's like Freakshow Dumb. It's Raw and Uncensored.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 17, 2015, 11:05:24 PM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size
Would you also argue that Palumbo has better physique than Steve Reeves?After all he has more size and better condition?
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 18, 2015, 03:08:40 AM
Lol. Morons...  If Arnold competed today he would win.. He would obviously not look like he did in the 70's - he would do what it takes to win.. He wins at EVERYTHING  he does... He knows he is better than other people and that makes him unbeatable.

Morons? you know nothing. You also don't know what i was trying to say. I'm comparing his 70's physique to physiques now...He would not win and it's a FACT because not only is there different criteria he is also not size and condition enough like i said i understand that..I know that if he grew up 30 years ago he would be on more drugs now and be a better bodybuilder..but that is not the point..HIS physique THEN..To the physiques now it is not even a contest there is no debating on that he just wouldn't win it's simple and it's being misunderstood
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 18, 2015, 03:09:33 AM
Would you also argue that Palumbo has better physique than Steve Reeves?After all he has more size and better condition?

Palumbo is a piece of shit how do you like that answer?
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: robcguns on June 18, 2015, 07:09:56 AM
Morons? you know nothing. You also don't know what i was trying to say. I'm comparing his 70's physique to physiques now...He would not win and it's a FACT because not only is there different criteria he is also not size and condition enough like i said i understand that..I know that if he grew up 30 years ago he would be on more drugs now and be a better bodybuilder..but that is not the point..HIS physique THEN..To the physiques now it is not even a contest there is no debating on that he just wouldn't win it's simple and it's being misunderstood
His chest,bis and calves would holdup today and his waist would blow everyone away.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Howard on June 18, 2015, 07:13:19 AM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

WTF?

Arnold was the standard of physique excellence BEFORE he became a movie star.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: oldtimer1 on June 18, 2015, 07:15:46 AM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

You're out of your mind.  ::)
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Yamcha on June 18, 2015, 07:17:58 AM
Arnold at 210 is the physique that I aspire to have. Pure homo.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Waller on June 18, 2015, 07:34:15 AM
Arnold at 210 is the physique that I aspire to have. Pure homo.

He doesn't even look 210 in Stay Hungry.  I'm sure he uses voodoo.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 18, 2015, 08:40:04 AM
Morons? you know nothing. You also don't know what i was trying to say. I'm comparing his 70's physique to physiques now...He would not win and it's a FACT because not only is there different criteria he is also not size and condition enough like i said i understand that..I know that if he grew up 30 years ago he would be on more drugs now and be a better bodybuilder..but that is not the point..HIS physique THEN..To the physiques now it is not even a contest there is no debating on that he just wouldn't win it's simple and it's being misunderstood
So what's your point in comparing a physique from 40 years ago build under different circumstances and upon a different criteria to the physiques of today and judging it by the criteria of today?It's just plain stupid.When people say he had better physique than today's pro's they don't mean it's by today's criteria but rather by the original criteria and bodybuilding ideal.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 18, 2015, 08:42:13 AM
Palumbo is a piece of shit how do you like that answer?
So size and condition is not everything then...
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: muscleman-2013 on June 18, 2015, 09:26:06 AM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

(http://cs13117.vkontakte.ru/u28454740/video/l_ce3e1336.jpg)
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: hench on June 18, 2015, 09:35:14 AM
Where's this magical condition today's lots have then? Peak Arnold was shredded enough, had good vascularity, an Xmas tree lower back that many can't achieve today and well developed thighs with cuts so deep most can only dream about. Most of today's lot have inferior arms, chest and calves while increased belly size, thinner, flatter chests and oversized thighs. Most of the extra weight today is in gut, thighs and glutes.
of course Arnold's hams from the rear and his butt cheeks weren't sliced, but who decided we needed to start seeing ass cheeks anyway
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Rudee on June 18, 2015, 10:04:07 AM
He looks at least 215-220 there.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Papper on June 18, 2015, 11:07:37 AM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

hahahaha!

pretty good trolling =)
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 18, 2015, 12:29:40 PM
hahahaha!

pretty good trolling =)

No trolling here
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 18, 2015, 12:30:31 PM
So what's your point in comparing a physique from 40 years ago build under different circumstances and upon a different criteria to the physiques of today and judging it by the criteria of today?It's just plain stupid.When people say he had better physique than today's pro's they don't mean it's by today's criteria but rather by the original criteria and bodybuilding ideal.

I'm saying he's overrated because people do that..they say he'd still win today with same conditioning and same criteria..I'm here to say he's overrated for that because i've heard so many people say that..That's IT
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: thegamechanger on June 18, 2015, 12:31:29 PM
arnold would have a pretty good chance in mens physique
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: funk51 on June 18, 2015, 12:31:59 PM
Here's arnold at 210 pounds for stay hungry. At his biggest i think he was 240-250 pounds.



Notice that freddy kruger is helping arnold before he goes on stage  :D
230-240.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: funk51 on June 18, 2015, 12:33:32 PM
 :o 235 lbs
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Skylge on June 18, 2015, 12:33:52 PM
Not only was Arnold big enough at 210 but he could say he was 280 and no one would've dare to doubt it ....It was the 70's !

People was utra skinny back then .... 

WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH

200 = natural
240 = on gear
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: thegamechanger on June 18, 2015, 12:44:30 PM
one has to wonder why anyone would want bigger legs than that
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Royalty on June 18, 2015, 01:38:05 PM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size

Fuck this hypothetical bullshit

Try living in reality please
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: K A N N I B A L on June 18, 2015, 01:40:53 PM
one has to wonder why anyone would want bigger legs than that

Why wouldn't anyone want bigger legs than that is what I'd question. They look too lanky in my opinion.
Paul DeMayo had legs.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Hulkotron on June 18, 2015, 01:52:52 PM
Why wouldn't anyone want bigger legs than that is what I'd question. They look too lanky in my opinion.
Paul DeMayo had legs.

Your legs must be colossal.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: doriancutlerman on June 18, 2015, 01:59:03 PM
Why wouldn't anyone want bigger legs than that is what I'd question. They look too lanky in my opinion.
Paul DeMayo had legs.

He did, and Paul had other awesome bodyparts.  His arms were frickin' amazing.

But to answer your question, in two words:  heterosexual women.  The vast majority of them would be utterly repulsed by gigantic wheels like Tom Platz, Demayo and ilk had.  Chicks like a lean waistline, good arms, pecs and delts -- and generally only on a middle to lightheavy level at that.  Dudes strutting around with stupid-big anything might turn heads but don't get chicks in their beds.  Not the kind of "chicks" most men would like, anyway :D

Incidentally, and at the risk of sounding "all homo," do you have pics of your own legs that show up Arnold's best?  Even so, pretty much everybody admits stupid-big quads are the norm these days .... along with big bellies, shittier conditioning and overall WANK dimensions.  The only exception in the pro ranks is Big "Mo," and even he has calves that better befit a ten-year-old girl.

Arnold still owns minds because current bodybuilders know they'll NEVER inspire people to take up training the way Arnold did.  Heath is a jealous little bitch and legend in his own mind.  I bet he has nightmares about competing against Jay, Coleman and Martinez at 90% of their respective bests.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Tennisballz on June 18, 2015, 02:37:39 PM
Arnold at 210 was better than any of the pros today.  He had a good muscular physique.  No one needs to be 4% bodyfat, it looks shitty.  He had good arm and chest genetics and stood well over 6 feet.  He had a physique we would all aspire to have and was in decent shape year round.  He also didn't need growth and slin and whatever else these guys use today.  Bodybuilding has sure taken a nose dive.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: K A N N I B A L on June 18, 2015, 02:43:44 PM
He did, and Paul had other awesome bodyparts.  His arms were frickin' amazing.

But to answer your question, in two words:  heterosexual women.  The vast majority of them would be utterly repulsed by gigantic wheels like Tom Platz, Demayo and ilk had.  Chicks like a lean waistline, good arms, pecs and delts -- and generally only on a middle to lightheavy level at that.  Dudes strutting around with stupid-big anything might turn heads but don't get chicks in their beds.  Not the kind of "chicks" most men would like, anyway :D

Incidentally, and at the risk of sounding "all homo," do you have pics of your own legs that show up Arnold's best?  Even so, pretty much everybody admits stupid-big quads are the norm these days .... along with big bellies, shittier conditioning and overall WANK dimensions.  The only exception in the pro ranks is Big "Mo," and even he has calves that better befit a ten-year-old girl.


While I never claimed to have legs to show up Arnold, I certainly aspire to have bigger legs than him. What chicks want doesn't bother me, I wouldn't be wasting time in the gym if banging chicks was my goal...skinny dudes slay just as easily as muscular dudes. I lift for me :)

(http://i59.tinypic.com/2nbdnpw.jpg)
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Tennisballz on June 18, 2015, 02:49:45 PM
While I never claimed to have legs to show up Arnold, I certainly aspire to have bigger legs than him. What chicks want doesn't bother me, I wouldn't be wasting time in the gym if banging chicks was my goal...skinny dudes slay just as easily as muscular dudes. I lift for me :)

(http://i59.tinypic.com/2nbdnpw.jpg)

is your goal to bang men?
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: K A N N I B A L on June 18, 2015, 02:56:18 PM
is your goal to bang men?
Why, you keen?
Training to impress chicks is pretty much pointless...why work so hard when picking up isn't exactly hard for all but the most physically deficient. Spend years building a physique just to pick up someone a cpl of cheesy lines could also pull?
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: njflex on June 18, 2015, 02:57:47 PM
While I never claimed to have legs to show up Arnold, I certainly aspire to have bigger legs than him. What chicks want doesn't bother me, I wouldn't be wasting time in the gym if banging chicks was my goal...skinny dudes slay just as easily as muscular dudes. I lift for me :)

(http://i59.tinypic.com/2nbdnpw.jpg)

U HAVE GREAT LEGS BRO 'NO HOMO'...
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: thegamechanger on June 18, 2015, 03:13:56 PM
matter of taste i guess, im not a fan of big legs
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 18, 2015, 03:21:47 PM
Fuck this hypothetical bullshit

Try living in reality please

I'm living in the reality where he would get crushed in 212 class at his own classic
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 19, 2015, 12:37:54 AM
I would argue arnold had one of the most overrated physiques in history..It's just the name behind it...If arnold never existed and bodybuilding was what it is now someone looking like arnold would just not cut it..To put it in perspective..Not enough condition+not enough size



Hi Mike Mentzer's ghost!
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: thegamechanger on June 19, 2015, 01:55:01 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=574556.0;attach=620888;image)

thats a pretty awesome picture, not posing, not flexing, caught in a moment like that and still look that awesome!!  :o
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: smoothasf on June 19, 2015, 02:12:45 AM
That's the perfect leg size he looks like he could run where as the guys today look like pit bull legs waddling around, traps look way more astetic this size too.  There's a reason all these years later this is still the gold standard.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Skylge on June 19, 2015, 02:28:09 AM
That's the perfect leg size he looks like he could run where as the guys today look like pit bull legs waddling around, traps look way more astetic this size too.  There's a reason all these years later this is still the gold standard.

He's still The benchmark, also because:

- no ugly gangsta like tattoo's
- no piercings
- tall
- great skin (naturally tanned and bronzed white skin looks much imo better than black skin: even if Health puts on another 50 lbs of muscle, he will never get the benchmark look)
- handsome face and charisma
- no thong
- no SM outfits like Kai
- not bald but great hair
- he was very good with media/interviews etc, extrovert
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: thegamechanger on June 19, 2015, 02:34:02 AM
look at his calves in that picture  :o
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: K A N N I B A L on June 19, 2015, 02:35:01 AM
That's the perfect leg size he looks like he could run where as the guys today look like pit bull legs

While ideal leg size is always gonna be subjective in this pursuit,  any reference to looking like a runner as a positive automatically loses any debate....I doubt any bodybuilder would appreciate such reference!
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: SuperTed on June 19, 2015, 02:50:03 AM
He's still The benchmark, also because:

- no ugly gangsta like tattoo's
- no piercings
- tall
- great skin (naturally tanned and bronzed white skin looks much imo better than black skin: even if Health puts on another 50 lbs of muscle, he will never get the benchmark look)
- handsome face and charisma
- no thong
- no SM outfits like Kai
- not bald but great hair
- he was very good with media/interviews etc, extrovert


X2
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Papper on June 19, 2015, 03:33:22 AM
No trolling here

Not fooling me. Everyone knows the king of kings is the best.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 19, 2015, 01:17:53 PM
Not fooling me. Everyone knows the king of kings is the best.

you know because you know...there is no logic behind it other than respect for the direction the sport went in because of him..
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Tarantula157 on June 19, 2015, 03:28:47 PM
While ideal leg size is always gonna be subjective in this pursuit,  any reference to looking like a runner as a positive automatically loses any debate....I doubt any bodybuilder would appreciate such reference!

You know when the size of the leg muscles makes the walk and run(their main purpose) a difficult activity,there is something wrong with it.
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: K A N N I B A L on June 19, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
Coleman and platz, two of the most well developed sets of legs of all time, could both do the full splits, so doubt that walking was of difficulty to either of them.

You'd think this was a men's physique board by the dislike for big legs here....
Title: Re: Arnold at 210, big enough?
Post by: Waller on June 19, 2015, 05:00:48 PM
Coleman and platz, two of the most well developed sets of legs of all time, could both do the full splits, so doubt that walking was of difficulty to either of them.

You'd think this was a men's physique board by the dislike for big legs here....


Those are two totally different things.

The splits is due to flexibility. The difficulty walking is due to the legs being so big they cannot move forwards and backwards past each other in a straight line, resulting in a 'I've pissed my pants and don't want the cold patch to touch my leg' waddle.