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While promoting Terminator Dialysis I mean Genesys He's asked About Donald T comments about Mexicans folks
(Please Don't mind Arnold's shrunken upper body "width" or the girl's accent)
WoooSSSHHH TA NA AK
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I don't know what trump said that was so offensive. The truth is the truth. If you are offended by what he said then you are offended by the truth.
Our border is not secure and as a result we have a bunch of drugs, scumbag criminals and rapists coming to the United States. Mixed in there is a certain amount of regular Mexicans.
Mexico is a corrupt, third world toilet just like Obama is trying to turn the United States into. The truth hurts but it's best to face reality rather than hide from it.
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I don't know what trump said that was so offensive. The truth is the truth. If you are offended by what he said then you are offended by the truth.
Our border is not secure and as a result we have a bunch of drugs, scumbag criminals and rapists coming to the United States. Mixed in there is a certain amount of regular Mexicans.
Mexico is a corrupt, third world toilet just like Obama is trying to turn the United States into. The truth hurts but it's best to face reality rather than hide from it.
I'd say that most of the hispanics that come to this country are extremely hard working... Are there some criminals and rapists? Sure... but we have criminals and rapists already here as well.
What he said just isn't accurate, that's all.
When you have 10 people living in a 2 br apartment and all of them going or trying to do some work every day, and that is by far the majority (and it is) then I don't think what he's saying is factual.
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Link to video of what Trump actually said?
Arnold making it sound like the Donald's antics are being blow out of proportion. I find that rather believable.
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I'd say that most of the hispanics that come to this country are extremely hard working... Are there some criminals and rapists? Sure... but we have criminals and rapists already here as well.
What he said just isn't accurate, that's all.
When you have 10 people living in a 2 br apartment and all of them going or trying to do some work every day, and that is by far the majority (and it is) then I don't think what he's saying is factual.
With respect, I don't really give a shit if most of them are hard working even if I believed that premise, which I don't. These aren't doctors and scientists, they are unskilled laborers that usually don't pay taxes or bother to learn English. Also, much of what they earn goes right back to Mexico. They don't respect our laws and they do not benefit us, in fact it's quite the opposite. To deny that would be insane. I live in an area where it is quite plain to see the consequences of having illegal Mexicans here. We have immigration laws for a reason. We control the amount of legal immigrants for a reason. We want to know exactly who is coming into the country for a reason. Excuses can go screw.
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I'd say that most of the hispanics that come to this country are extremely hard working... Are there some criminals and rapists? Sure... but we have criminals and rapists already here as well.
What he said just isn't accurate, that's all.
When you have 10 people living in a 2 br apartment and all of them going or trying to do some work every day, and that is by far the majority (and it is) then I don't think what he's saying is factual.
"wishful thinking" "useful idiot" ...
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"wishful thinking" "useful idiot" ...
Nothing wishful about it.
It's simply evidence that I see, not evidence based upon what other people "tell me".
If you are calling me a useful idiot, then I thank you, as one of the non-anonymous posters, I do not worry about what "muscleman-2013" thinks of my intelligence.
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With respect, I don't really give a shit if most of them are hard working even if I believed that premise, which I don't. These aren't doctors and scientists, they are unskilled laborers that usually don't pay taxes or bother to learn English. Also, much of what they earn goes right back to Mexico. They don't respect our laws and they do not benefit us, in fact it's quite the opposite. To deny that would be insane. I live in an area where it is quite plain to see the consequences of having illegal Mexicans here. We have immigration laws for a reason. We control the amount of legal immigrants for a reason. We want to know exactly who is coming into the country for a reason. Excuses can go screw.
pretty much what you say here... Surely somehow we benefit form their cheap labour though, so it's a love/hate thing in some ways.
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pretty much what you say here... Surely somehow we benefit form their cheap labour though, so it's a love/hate thing in some ways.
You benefit a LOT.
You want to know why you aren't paying 5 bucks for a head of lettuce or 10 bucks for a gallon of OJ... It's the cheap labor that the illegals bring.
It's just economics...
Let's not forget that it's the jobs that no one else will do.
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You benefit a LOT.
You want to know why you aren't paying 5 bucks for a head of lettuce or 10 bucks for a gallon of OJ... It's the cheap labor that the illegals bring.
It's just economics...
Let's not forget that it's the jobs that no one else will do.
you hit the nail right in the head! whitey sure as hell aint going to do it, black people would rather stay home and collect their free handouts, and Asians too busy running their small mom and pop shops....think about it ass-hats....
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Good on Trump for speaking the truth. It's the losers that are going to stand out regardless. There is good and bad within every race. Whether someone is hardworking or not makes no difference. Give American jobs to American citizens first and foremost, instead of allowing every dick and jane from some foreign country to take jobs.
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With respect, I don't really give a shit if most of them are hard working even if I believed that premise, which I don't. These aren't doctors and scientists, they are unskilled laborers that usually don't pay taxes or bother to learn English. Also, much of what they earn goes right back to Mexico. They don't respect our laws and they do not benefit us, in fact it's quite the opposite. To deny that would be insane. I live in an area where it is quite plain to see the consequences of having illegal Mexicans here. We have immigration laws for a reason. We control the amount of legal immigrants for a reason. We want to know exactly who is coming into the country for a reason. Excuses can go screw.
First it was "most," then "many," but we've been at "some" now for quite a while. We need to quit pretending this is the same 'just looking for a better life' generation from decades back.
Trump certainly lost a shitload of support with those comments, but at least he's not afraid to address the problem. Unfortunately, this is our future, and the only thing Mexican immigrants like about America (besides the free shit) is how easy we make it for them to Mexicanize our culture.
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Hispanics only argument over immigration is that "we are all immigrants, and the land belongs to native Americans" ::) what part of illegal do they not understand, bunch of 3rd world people
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I don't know what trump said that was so offensive. The truth is the truth. If you are offended by what he said then you are offended by the truth.
Our border is not secure and as a result we have a bunch of drugs, scumbag criminals and rapists coming to the United States. Mixed in there is a certain amount of regular Mexicans.
Mexico is a corrupt, third world toilet just like Obama is trying to turn the United States into. The truth hurts but it's best to face reality rather than hide from it.
People are always offended by the truth. That is nothing new.
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Also, Arnold comes off very weak and this interview. Apologize??? Real men dont ever apologize, and ESPECIALLY not Donald Trump! Hell freezes over before Trump apologizes for anything. He is NOT a politician! His mission is not to please everyone by sugarcoating statements and spreading lies. His mission is to make America great again! And you ignorant fucks are too stupid to see it. ::)
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Trump comments are costing him millions $$$
Trump is now stuck on defend mode..
He made a mistake ... but now it's to late..
Wait till he gets to the states in the south ..
Where there is a high population of Hispanic votes ;D ;D
He is going to get skinned alive ;)
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How come everyone says, "They are out in the fields doing the work Americans don't want to do/You would be paying more for produce?" I swear, that is the only statement I tend to hear when liberals try to defend these immigrants.
So, what happens when they are granted amnesty/citizenship? Who the fuck will be out in the fields working?! (*more illegals, and the cycle continues)
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Trump comments are costing him millions $$$
Trump is now stuck on defend mode..
He made a mistake ... but now it's to late..
Wait till he gets to the states in the south ..
Where there is a high population of Hispanic votes ;D ;D
He is going to get skinned alive ;)
He made a mistake for freely speaking his mind? What happened to freedom of speech?
All this PC bullshit has been created by corporate media. You're all being divided and conquered. Wake the fuck up people.
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Trump comments are costing him millions $$$
Trump is now stuck on defend mode..
He made a mistake ... but now it's to late..
Wait till he gets to the states in the south ..
Where there is a high population of Hispanic votes ;D ;D
He is going to get skinned alive ;)
Trump is putting all his eggs into the "I totally motivate the BASE of the repub party that no-showed for Mccain in 08 and Mccain in 2012".
The base, today, is VERY angry about amnesty. It's been their #1 issue. Trump is a POPULIST who has two core beliefs. 1) hate everything about obama and 2) adhere to the top issue with base voters the day he declares, which was amnesty.
He's just giving the masses of the far right base what they want - a brash, rude, obnoxious, fearless voice willing to talk shit about obama, illegals, terr'ists, china, and govt in general. You know the type, they scream things like "keep the govt out of my medicare..." lol
He's got nothing to lose, owes no apologies, worth billions, gives not a single fck.
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How come everyone says, "They are out in the fields doing the work Americans don't want to do/You would be paying more for produce?" I swear, that is the only statement I tend to hear when liberals try to defend these immigrants.
So, what happens when they are granted amnesty/citizenship? Who the fuck will be out in the fields working?! (*more illegals, and the cycle continues)
I never got that argument either. Being in favor of artificially propping up the economy with slave labor... because they're rooting for the slaves, whose side they're purportedly on, to keep working for nothing instead of the legislated minimum wage? As if that isn't already hilariously low.
If lettuce costs $10 to legally produce then that is what lettuce costs. Why does lettuce get a pass? They're not going to let me run a cotton plantation where I pay black people $5 a day just because I can make a cheaper tshirt, or coerce a chinaman into performing Amtrak rail maintenance if it makes the ticket cheaper than bus fare.
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What happened to freedom of speech?
::) he wasnt thrown in jail
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Hispanics only argument over immigration is that "we are all immigrants, and the land belongs to native Americans" ::) what part of illegal do they not understand, bunch of 3rd world people
Its call profiling ;
What part of People like Donald Trump see a latino and automatically assume he is an illegal Mexican,rapist,drug dealer delincuent you don't understand ?
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He made a mistake for freely speaking his mind? What happened to freedom of speech?
All this PC bullshit has been created by corporate media. You're all being divided and conquered. Wake the fuck up people.
He is going to get owned once the primaries start..
And his money won't be able to help him get out of the shit storm he started.. ;D
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Trump is putting all his eggs into the "I totally motivate the BASE of the repub party that no-showed for Mccain in 08 and Mccain in 2012".
The base, today, is VERY angry about amnesty. It's been their #1 issue. Trump is a POPULIST who has two core beliefs. 1) hate everything about obama and 2) adhere to the top issue with base voters the day he declares, which was amnesty.
He's just giving the masses of the far right base what they want - a brash, rude, obnoxious, fearless voice willing to talk shit about obama, illegals, terr'ists, china, and govt in general. You know the type, they scream things like "keep the govt out of my medicare..." lol
He's got nothing to lose, owes no apologies, worth billions, gives not a single fck.
His ego is what is hurting..
He is already back peddling..
Making up excuses for his stupidity..
Several executives have stated that they never called trump to apologize..
Trump is now in safe face mode.. ;D
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Trump:Tramp
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His ego is what is hurting..
He is already back peddling..
Making up excuses for his stupidity..
Several executives have stated that they never called trump to apologize..
Trump is now in safe face mode.. ;D
he still hasn't released his paperwork, official filings and financial disclosure. Jon Stewart thinks he won't, thinks he will back out.
I do think, after 40 years of being a delusional libereal + 8 years of being an angry RINO + an entire life of being rich and having people kiss your ass... I think Trump might be getting a little out of touch, a little crazy.
Last week, he said: "I will be the Greatest Jobs President God Ever Created"... That's not the way grounded people talk. I'll be a good jobs creator, sure. God created me, sure. But to combine them?
Trump probably starting to have some onset crazy set in. Highly entertaining though!
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While promoting Terminator Dialysis I mean Genesys He's asked About Donald T comments about Mexicans folks
(Please Don't mind Arnold's shrunken upper body "width" or the girl's accent)
clearly off cycle again....
WoooSSSHHH TA NA AK
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I'm an American because I was born in the USA; sadly I have an accent because I grew up out of the US ,fortunatelly I had access to private schools, loving family, everything a kid would love/need growing up...
I am a latino that never had direct contact with Mexican culture or people until I came back to my birthplace "America"...(Ironically)
Here I'm called Mexican all the time (which I don't take as an insult) but with Donald Trump's statements I'm perceived as an Illegal immigrant,uneducated, rapist guy,law breaker,wet back etc ...
Few years back a bouncer at a club (half my size) called me "a fucking Mexican " simply because I was chatting with some chicks with my lousy accent (I guess) at the bar
"Wrong, I'm Not even Mexican I said .... "same shit he replied..
What would have happened if I start a "discussion" with the guy ?
Probably a Mexican that shouldn't be in American soil disturbing the peace in the first place.
That's the reality many of us have to wake up to every morning.
Thanks Donald
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BE YE KE
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It s a fact, majority of immigrants dont come to integrate but to import their way of life in the host's country. Also they re breeding way more than whiteys which means that logically, mathematically, they re going to outnumber them in the end, as simple as that, if you dont reproduce enough or more than other races, you get replaced by them. Immigrants are FORCED to assimilate when they are a very few in an ocean of natives, to survive they must become just like the hosts. When immigrants come in large groups and constantly stick together, they have no reason to assimilate no incentive to do so, and they import their way of life and then being more numerous impose it to the natives that are in smaller numbers before litteraly booting them out of their own place after a while. Quite simple to understand really. The same shit applies everywhere in the world, notably with muslims in europe.
Trump doesnt intend to become president, he knows he has no serious chance anyway, so he goes straight to the point speaking his mind. But wether it s in europe or north america, it s way past the right time to tell these truths. Money rules, rich cynical elites rule and they promote multiculturalism to lower salaries and crush the middle and lower social classes for their profits. Middle and lower white social classes are getting massacrated by their elites who flood them under waves and waves of cheap third worlders. The white race is isolated, self hating, depressed and in decline demographically, period. We re facing extinction, a slow, gradual but certain extinction.
The irony is that mexicans are mostly catholics that some of our white catholic ancestors converted to christianism. Their jesus and god are probably latino looking. They re crushing the atheist white dysfunctional family with their strong family ties and "faith", promise of eradicating the old corrupt white man - and woman-, they have that same revenge logic that muslims in europe have. Just like muslims in europe are convinced they re destined to replace the dying atheist lost and corrupt white man there. Believers, whatever they believe in, are crushing atheists, who mostly happen to be whites.
The other funny part is that most white people will end in retirement homes that are mostly ruled by ...mexican nurses.
Also when it comes to listening to one's opinion about immigration, i always tend to listen to the one who s actually really facing it daily with his guts, to get a realistic point of view, than some asshole who has no idea what is it really about and simply repeat cliche mantras about how great they are and how hard it is for them to make himself look better.
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If lettuce costs $10 to legally produce then that is what lettuce costs. Why does lettuce get a pass?
$10 lettuce means fewer pet rabbits. And you know the butterfly effect of what fucking follows fewer pet rabbits.
Think before you type, man.
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hold on
americans moaning about immigrants????
if your not a native american you are a fucking immigrant yourself.
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hold on
americans moaning about immigrants????
if your not a native american you are a fucking immigrant yourself.
Not immigrants, illegal immigrants.
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Trump is better than any of the other non alternatives.
Enjoy your 3rd world l'America.
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Not immigrants, illegal immigrants.
Bingo.
We can not absorb all of the people that want to come here. We let millions of immigrants in every year, far more than any other country. There has to be a limit.
A country that does not secure it's borders can not continue to exist. Every country does it, Mexico does it. Only the United States is treated like a bunch evil racists when we try to do it. Again, this is comical because we take in the most immigrants.
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but with Donald Trump's statements I'm perceived as an Illegal immigrant,uneducated, rapist guy,law breaker,wet back etc ...
I could take offense to it in that way as well, but it doesnt bother me. He was referring to Mexicans, and I agree with him. Not going to disagree with him just because someone might be generalize me as a latino (many are probably as guilty of doing it with Asians anyway). Aside from the reason you stated, I dont know why so many other South American Latinos are so outraged, as they can be pretty prejudiced against Mexicans themselves. And it's been my experience that Mexican was considered the lowest on the Latin totem pole. The men really do tend to act like leering thristy rapists whenever they see a chick. Yes yes not all, but enough do.
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Only people that are insecure would be worried about the Mexicans...
Donald mad cause the drug lords have his family hooked on their drugs....
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I love the irony in people who are mad because non-citizens are coming into the country doing exactly what was done to take this country from the Native Americans.
Pray_4_War you sound like you are bitter because the Mexicans never left LA after it was acquired from Mexico.
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I also love how everyone brings up the Native Americans as their go to rebuttal. EVERY hipster brings up the damn Native Americans.
You'd think all the Austin, TX hipster-types were best friends with Squatting Bull...
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I also love how everyone brings up the Native Americans as their go to rebuttal. EVERY hipster brings up the damn Native Americans.
You'd think all the Austin, TX hipster-types were best friends with Squatting Bull...
I am not a hipster. It is a damn good rebuttal since it is a fact. This country was built upon immigrants fleeing their various shitty lives to come seek the American Dream. Trump knew what he was saying and the extra shit about Mexicans being rapists, drug dealers, etc can be said for the citizens of this country.
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Bingo.
We can not absorb all of the people that want to come here. We let millions of immigrants in every year, far more than any other country. There has to be a limit.
A country that does not secure it's borders can not continue to exist. Every country does it, Mexico does it. Only the United States is treated like a bunch evil racists when we try to do it. Again, this is comical because we take in the most immigrants.
The problem doesn't come from OUTSIDE attitudes... it is the US media that says this rubbish.
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I am not a hipster. It is a damn good rebuttal since it is a fact. This country was built upon immigrants fleeing their various shitty lives to come seek the American Dream. Trump knew what he was saying and the extra shit about Mexicans being rapists, drug dealers, etc can be said for the citizens of this country.
the american dream = biggest unscrupulous assholes dominate weaker losers and eradicate them
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the american dream = biggest unscrupulous assholes dominate weaker losers and eradicate them
It wasn't always like that though. That is a relative term having different meanings to persons from different walks of life. To someone born to an affluent family, sure that is what it means. To someone who struggled through life (even as a citizen of this country) it may be as simple as having a family and a home.
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It wasn't always like that though. That is a relative term having different meanings to persons from different walks of life. To someone born to an affluent family, sure that is what it means. To someone who struggled through life (even as a citizen of this country) it may be as simple as having a family and a home.
Well people who think alike get along and ally to defeat those who think "differently" (threaten their access to limited resources). You re nice to those who share the same interests as you and fight against those who have different interests, opinions, or/and who threaten yours. They quit on reproducing due to the guilt of what they ve done in the past and after losing interest in a future that has been scientifically proven to be bleak.
Wasps eradicated indians , blacks, asians, then went on to eradicate themselves , and now are on the verge of being replaced by latinos, muslims and blacks everywhere in what was known as the western (white world) world.
Everywhere on earth, everywhere in the animal species known as mankind, only the strongest survive at the expense of the weaker who s enslaved then destroyed when not productive/useful enough.
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Well people who think alike get along and ally to defeat those who think "differently" (threaten their access to limited resources). You re nice to those who share the same interests as you and fight against those who have different interests, opinions, or/and who threaten yours. They quit on reproducing due to the guilt of what they ve done in the past and after losing interest in a future that has been scientifically proven to be bleak.
Wasps eradicated indians , blacks, asians, then went on to eradicate themselves , and now are on the verge of being replaced by latinos, muslims and blacks everywhere in what was known as the western (white world) world.
Everywhere on earth, everywhere in the animal species known as mankind, only the strongest survive at the expense of the weaker who s enslaved then destroyed when not productive/useful enough.
Well then I can see why the most intellectually challenged would be the most outraged at people coming in and doing meanial jobs for next to nothing and almost always far below minimum wage. However I also believe that the citizens of this country are lazy and spoonfed so they do not think that they have to work hard for an honest wage. IE people picketting for $15 an hour to flip burgers (not that fast food chains even flip burgers), any non-citizen of any country of origin is going to happily take that minimum wage job. Non-citizens are willing to work harder and for less money but at least they are willing to work.
I am shocked to see so many "GetBiggers" alarmed at people coming into this country to work multiple jobs for next to nothing. I thought you guys all drove Ferrari cars and lived in mansions. Are you worried these unskilled, untrained, uneducated persons are going to take your high paying jobs? I sure as hell am not.
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With respect, I don't really give a shit if most of them are hard working even if I believed that premise, which I don't. These aren't doctors and scientists, they are unskilled laborers that usually don't pay taxes or bother to learn English. Also, much of what they earn goes right back to Mexico. They don't respect our laws and they do not benefit us, in fact it's quite the opposite. To deny that would be insane. I live in an area where it is quite plain to see the consequences of having illegal Mexicans here. We have immigration laws for a reason. We control the amount of legal immigrants for a reason. We want to know exactly who is coming into the country for a reason. Excuses can go screw.
The truth is they do pay taxes and into social security that they cant get because they are not legal citizens, they do send money to thier families back home but its money they earned so its not missing from anyone, they also pay rent and buy food and cheap cars, Arizona's economy went to shit when they passes tough laws, rental vacancies skyrocketed and cheap food stores went out of business, cause and effect you dumbshit
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The truth is they do pay taxes and into social security that they cant get because they are not legal citizens, they do send money to thier families back home but its money they earned so its not missing from anyone, they also pay rent and buy food and cheap cars, Arizona's economy went to shit when they passes tough laws, rental vacancies skyrocketed and cheap food stores went out of business, cause and effect you dumbshit
:D :D :D :D :D :D Thanks Noel, you get it!!!!
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Well life is a cruel war, so the strongest dominate, rules are really, secondary and always raped by elites and those who have nothing to lose anyway. The eternal loser is the guy in the middle.
If latinos breed more than whiteys they re gonna replace whiteys, as simple as that. Everything can be reduced to this simple fact. Remaining whiteys will have to adapt to their new masters, and not the oposite. Just like it s happening in europe where whiteys are gradually submiting more and more to muslims who outnumber them.
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The truth is they do pay taxes and into social security that they cant get because they are not legal citizens, they do send money to thier families back home but its money they earned so its not missing from anyone, they also pay rent and buy food and cheap cars, Arizona's economy went to shit when they passes tough laws, rental vacancies skyrocketed and cheap food stores went out of business, cause and effect you dumbshit
You are saying illegal immigrants pay taxes and social security but yet can't get it? Am I correct in interpreting this? And the money they earn isn't missed because they sent it to another country? Even though their job could be had by an American whom would spend the money in America and help out the USA?
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You are saying illegal immigrants pay taxes and social security but yet can't get it? Am I correct in interpreting this? And the money they earn isn't missed because they sent it to another country? Even though their job could be had by an American whom would spend the money in America and help out the USA?
When was the last time you saw an able-bodied white man mowing someone's yard? Immigrants pay taxes, in the form of income, property, sales, and taxes at the federal and state level. As far as income tax payments go, sources vary in their accounts, but a range of studies find that immigrants pay between $90 and $140 billion a year in federal, state, and local taxes. Undocumented immigrants pay income taxes as well, as evidenced by the Social Security Administration's "suspense file" (taxes that cannot be matched to workers' names and social security numbers), which grew by $20 billion between 1990 and 1998.
In addition to the consumer spending of immigrant households, immigrants and their businesses contribute $162 billion in tax revenue to U.S. federal, state, and local governments. While it is true that immigrants remit billions of dollars a year to their home countries, this is one of the most targeted and effective forms of direct foreign investment.
(Source: http://www.cato.org/research/articles/griswold-020218.html)
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You are saying illegal immigrants pay taxes and social security but yet can't get it? Am I correct in interpreting this? And the money they earn isn't missed because they sent it to another country? Even though their job could be had by an American whom would spend the money in America and help out the USA?
You cant be this dim....
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Trump was not very nice about our taco-eating friends.
But Arnold should be more concerned about his chest and biceps size......he's not into politics no more, thank god.
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It s a fact, majority of immigrants dont come to integrate but to import their way of life in the host's country. Also they re breeding way more than whiteys which means that logically, mathematically, they re going to outnumber them in the end, as simple as that, if you dont reproduce enough or more than other races, you get replaced by them. Immigrants are FORCED to assimilate when they are a very few in an ocean of natives, to survive they must become just like the hosts. When immigrants come in large groups and constantly stick together, they have no reason to assimilate no incentive to do so, and they import their way of life and then being more numerous impose it to the natives that are in smaller numbers before litteraly booting them out of their own place after a while. Quite simple to understand really. The same shit applies everywhere in the world, notably with muslims in europe.
Use to say the same thing about the Irish and Italians.
My great grandfather was 3rd generation American, grew up in a rural southern Illinois town, and his grade school books were in German. Immigrants rarely assimilate. Their kids assimilate a bit more. Their grandkids even more. It's the way it has always been throughout the world.
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$10 lettuce means fewer pet rabbits. And you know the butterfly effect of what fucking follows fewer pet rabbits.
Think before you type, man.
Bullshit. Lettuce used to cost a nickel, then it cost a dime, then a quarter, then a dollar. Why? Has lettuce improved 2000% since it was worth a nickel? Of course not. What's happened is that the federal reserve has diluted the purchasing power of American money. There's 2000% more dollars chasing the same head of lettuce. That's why it costs more. Inflation is a deliberate creation because the money supply always has to increase to be able to service the debt it cost to produce that money.
However, if .gov wasn't able to subsidize cheap lettuce through immigrant labor then the price would rise to its natural production cost. People wouldn't be able to afford as much and they would reduce spending to pay for need only items. 75% of the US's GDP is consumer based spending. If the people stop spending the house of cards collapses. This is also the reason for Obamacare coming quickly on the heels of the 2008 liquidity crash. .Gov had to mandate by law increased consumer spending to keep the Ponzi scheme going.
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And the rabbit hutch industry would collapse overnight.
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Oh, I guess I'm wrong. Having 20 million illegal Mexicans flooding the United States is a great thing for the USA. Yeah, they are the key to our entire economy. Thank God for those hard working, brilliant innovators.
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Link to video of what Trump actually said?
Arnold making it sound like the Donald's antics are being blow out of proportion. I find that rather believable.
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Trump is a liberal plant.
Suddenly, if you're against amnesty, you're a racist who calls mexicans rapists.
He tainted the birth certificate issue and now he's done it again with amnesty.
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Trump is a liberal plant.
Suddenly, if you're against amnesty, you're a racist who calls mexicans rapists.
He tainted the birth certificate issue and now he's done it again with amnesty.
Yep. He's controlled opposition just like John Kerry was in 2004. It's lovely theatre if it didn't get so many people killed.
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You cant be this dim....
Answer the question Noel. Just answer it.
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MSNBC loves Trump. They adore Christie too. They fear Cruz, cause cruz will motivate the base like crazy, and dems could actually lose.
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I won't vote for him. He's absolutely correct in everything he says though.
Ironic how the guy who says he will be the president to create the most jobs ever, is known for "You're Fired!"
If you stopped/slowed the immigration process the economy wouldn't suffer or collapse. It would thrive.
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Ironic how the guy who says he will be the president to create the most jobs ever, is known for "You're Fired!"
"America, you're HIRED!" = the most amazingly, simple, witty catch phrase for Trump's campaign.
I can't think of anything better he could come up with.
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I love the irony in people who are mad because non-citizens are coming into the country doing exactly what was done to take this country from the Native Americans.
Do you also enjoy the irony of Mexico's militarized southern border? Or the irony of them forcing Mayans to live under Mexican rule? Or, before that, Natives who took land from other Natives?
Love that irony, too, do ya? Or do you think conquest is exclusively the realm of pale face?
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Trump basically said that all Mexicans in the U.S. Are bad and rapists.
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Do you also enjoy the irony of Mexico's militarized southern border? Or the irony of them forcing Mayans to live under Mexican rule? Or, before that, Natives who took land from other Natives?
Love that irony, too, do ya? Or do you think conquest is exclusively the realm of pale face?
C'mon man, you'll hurt his brain..
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Trump basically said that all Mexicans in the U.S. Are bad and rapists.
Well, actually, no he didn't.
He indicated that a percentage of them are.
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C'mon man, you'll hurt his brain..
Not a chick?
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Not a chick?
What self respecting chick would post here???
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What self respecting chick would post here???
Self-respecting, none.
But is it?
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Self-respecting, none.
But is it?
probably not..
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Do you also enjoy the irony of Mexico's militarized southern border? Or the irony of them forcing Mayans to live under Mexican rule? Or, before that, Natives who took land from other Natives?
Love that irony, too, do ya? Or do you think conquest is exclusively the realm of pale face?
:D ;D
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Do you also enjoy the irony of Mexico's militarized southern border? Or the irony of them forcing Mayans to live under Mexican rule? Or, before that, Natives who took land from other Natives?
Love that irony, too, do ya? Or do you think conquest is exclusively the realm of pale face?
Forget it - the mantra of verbal self destruction has been too firmly planted in some.
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looking good earlier today.
Trump was not very nice about our taco-eating friends.
But Arnold should be more concerned about his chest and biceps size......he's not into politics no more, thank god.
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And the rabbit hutch industry would collapse overnight.
Exactly, and everyone knows a healthy RHI is what keeps us from falling into economic collapse.
No idea where doom thought I was going.
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Well, actually, no he didn't.
He indicated that a percentage of them are.
He should have said illegal immigrants and leave nationalities alone.
Woooshhhhhhh
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I never got that argument either. Being in favor of artificially propping up the economy with slave labor... because they're rooting for the slaves, whose side they're purportedly on, to keep working for nothing instead of the legislated minimum wage? As if that isn't already hilariously low.
If lettuce costs $10 to legally produce then that is what lettuce costs. Why does lettuce get a pass? They're not going to let me run a cotton plantation where I pay black people $5 a day just because I can make a cheaper tshirt, or coerce a chinaman into performing Amtrak rail maintenance if it makes the ticket cheaper than bus fare.
It's not just lettuce, it's a lot of things... You will not be able to afford a lot of shit you can currently because the inflation will be ridiculous on the products.
I'm not saying it's right, but it's basic economics.
There's a reason why you buy all of your stuff from China.
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Oh, I guess I'm wrong. Having 20 million illegal Mexicans flooding the United States is a great thing for the USA. Yeah, they are the key to our entire economy. Thank God for those hard working, brilliant innovators.
There is a difference between seeing the benefit of certain things and being "gung ho" for them.
I don't think that illegals of any sort (they aren't all mexicans by the way) are necessarily "good", but there's a benefit to them being here.
That's just a fact.
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There is a difference between seeing the benefit of certain things and being "gung ho" for them.
I don't think that illegals of any sort (they aren't all mexicans by the way) are necessarily "good", but there's a benefit to them being here.
That's just a fact.
Well first of all there are laws in place that illegals of any sort (mostly Mexicans) are not allowed here
It's a slap in the face for every immigrant from Europe to Asia that came here legally within the law
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Well first of all there are laws in place that illegals of any sort (mostly Mexicans) are not allowed here
It's a slap in the face for every immigrant from Europe to Asia that came here legally within the law
Hey, I don't disagree.. I also know that a very large percentage of illegals are not mexican though.. There are illegals from China, Europe, all over.
Mexico is one country... One.
It just so happens to be closer, so getting across the border is easier from there than other places, but they are not the only people who are getting here illegally.
A lot of them come over on visas legally, then just stay... That's a big part of the european crew.
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With respect, I don't really give a shit if most of them are hard working even if I believed that premise, which I don't. These aren't doctors and scientists, they are unskilled laborers that usually don't pay taxes or bother to learn English. Also, much of what they earn goes right back to Mexico. They don't respect our laws and they do not benefit us, in fact it's quite the opposite. To deny that would be insane. I live in an area where it is quite plain to see the consequences of having illegal Mexicans here. We have immigration laws for a reason. We control the amount of legal immigrants for a reason. We want to know exactly who is coming into the country for a reason. Excuses can go screw.
what you are trying to say is they water down the economy with low skills and low income levels but still take the benefits that everyone else gets. ie they are a net drain on society.
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Hey, I don't disagree.. I also know that a very large percentage of illegals are not mexican though.. There are illegals from China, Europe, all over.
Mexico is one country... One.
It just so happens to be closer, so getting across the border is easier from there than other places, but they are not the only people who are getting here illegally.
A lot of them come over on visas legally, then just stay... That's a big part of the european crew.
C'mon, guy. One country is VASTLY responsible for the drain, this is no secret. The others are merely a distraction, especially anything south or west of us.
Illegal is illegal, sure, but some Limey or Chinaman overstaying an expired work visa is quite different than stuffing la familia de quince under the floorboard of a '97 Aerostar.
Let's keep it honest.
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C'mon, guy. One country is VASTLY responsible for the drain, this is no secret. The others are merely a distraction, especially anything south or west of us.
Illegal is illegal, sure, but some Limey or Chinaman overstaying an expired work visa is quite different than stuffing la familia de quince under the floorboard of a '97 Ford Aerostar.
Let's keep it honest.
I am.
Let me put it to you like this.
No matter where they come from, what are they doing for work? They aren't working for the big corporations because they aren't hiring illegals. (Maybe Walmart did at one time if I recall) but for the most part, it's not happening.
We had a guy on a odd contract here at the office, they found out he was illegal. Boom... gone.
It was quick and done.
So where are they working?
Are you saying you know a bunch of white people who will be out on the freeways selling oranges? In the lettuce fields?
I'm just saying that I don't know a single person who would do that over their unemployment benefits.
Boy do I was more people would... but there are a lot of lazy people in the US... the large percentage are not the illegals you are saying are the drain.
That's all I'm saying.
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It's not just lettuce, it's a lot of things... You will not be able to afford a lot of shit you can currently because the inflation will be ridiculous on the products.
I'm not saying it's right, but it's basic economics.
There's a reason why you buy all of your stuff from China.
I'm no Milt Keynes but wouldn't basic economics suggest a parity or a Nash Point or one of those economist's terms between earnings and the cost of living as the state toward which shit will naturally trend?
Ever other country can make stuff its people can afford to buy without exploiting an illegal laboring underclass. How do they make it work?
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I am.
Let me put it to you like this.
No matter where they come from, what are they doing for work? They aren't working for the big corporations because they aren't hiring illegals. (Maybe Walmart did at one time if I recall) but for the most part, it's not happening.
We had a guy on a odd contract here at the office, they found out he was illegal. Boom... gone.
It was quick and done.
So where are they working?
Are you saying you know a bunch of white people who will be out on the freeways selling oranges? In the lettuce fields?
I'm just saying that I don't know a single person who would do that over their unemployment benefits.
Boy do I was more people would... but there are a lot of lazy people in the US... the large percentage are not the illegals you are saying are the drain.
That's all I'm saying.
I was simply addressing country of origin. However, the problem isn't so much Señor y Señora Lettuce and Primo peddling oranges.
It's that they fuck a lot. And Catholics don't believe in contraception, so every load makes another niño, each more Americanized than the last. They don't seem to inherit much of the folks' work ethic, only their hatred of condoms. So they make babies, too, a whole f'n shitload of 'em. Lettuce and oranges gonna pay for all that?
There's your drain.
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I'm no Milt Keynes but wouldn't basic economics suggest a parity or a Nash Point or one of those economist's terms between earnings and the cost of living as the state toward which shit will naturally trend?
Ever other country can make stuff its people can afford to buy without exploiting an illegal laboring underclass. How do they make it work?
Is this true? I mean, do other countries make stuff its own people can afford? At least in the 1st world countries?
Perhaps this is a demonstration of the dwindling middle class... I wouldn't argue against that premise of course.
I don't really know.
I was simply addressing country of origin. However, the problem isn't so much Señor y Señora Lettuce and Primo peddling oranges.
It's that they fuck a lot. And Catholics don't believe in contraception, so every load makes another niño, each more Americanized than the last. They don't seem to inherit much of the folks' work ethic, only their hatred of condoms. So they make babies, too, a whole f'n shitload of 'em. Lettuce and oranges gonna pay for all that?
There's your drain.
They do.
They are not the only ones, but yes, that's true.
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Is this true? I mean, do other countries make stuff its own people can afford? At least in the 1st world countries?
It's true. They really do that in some places.
Economics is all well and good but if we're going to take a scientific approach then you really can't go past physics. Thing is, when the mexican is picking the vegetables, there's a large thermodynamic inefficiency inherent in that labor. He's drinking water. He's expending energy. He's even going to have to be provided with some form of sustenance in order to continue. I haven't run the numbers but the waste is pretty obvious.
Now, nobody really likes vegetables. We've all heard how beef production generates green house gasses and requires vast acreage to produce only a small amount of beef, yet steak continues to be an American favorite. We are a carnivorous people. I modestly propose, therefore, that we nevermind so much about the veggies and simply eat the mexicans.
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Would seriously love to see the numbers. Does he expand less energy than he produces... would make for an excellent subject matter.
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I was simply addressing country of origin. However, the problem isn't so much Señor y Señora Lettuce and Primo peddling oranges.
It's that they fuck a lot. And Catholics don't believe in contraception, so every load makes another niño, each more Americanized than the last. They don't seem to inherit much of the folks' work ethic, only their hatred of condoms. So they make babies, too, a whole f'n shitload of 'em. Lettuce and oranges gonna pay for all that?
There's your drain.
most of them just like blacks or muslims, willingly have tons of kids hoping to replace white people, it doesnt take too long when discussing with them for them to tell it like it is. Especially when they re convinced their latino god and jesus told them to do so.
it s a race war people, make no mistake. Maybe not for the rich hipsters or conservatives, but they are a minority, not the majority. The majority outnumber us because they re fighting a racial war with their bellies and dicks.
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At first glance the title of this thread read.............Arnold takes a dump.
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Good on Trump for speaking the truth. It's the losers that are going to stand out regardless. There is good and bad within every race. Whether someone is hardworking or not makes no difference. Give American jobs to American citizens first and foremost, instead of allowing every dick and jane from some foreign country to take jobs.
You do realize that your beloved America was FOUNDED ON IMMIGRANTS? If it wasn't for immigrants coming over from Europe, you wouldn't be American. ::)
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You do realize that your beloved America was FOUNDED ON IMMIGRANTS? If it wasn't for immigrants coming over from Europe, you wouldn't be American. ::)
Dumbest post of the month, easy.
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You do realize that your beloved America was FOUNDED ON IMMIGRANTS? If it wasn't for immigrants coming over from Europe, you wouldn't be American. ::)
Wow I've never heard of this before. Please enlighten me
My parents were "legal" immigrants from Germany
People coming over illegally is a big slap in the face to me, my parents and others who did it the right way
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My parents were "legal" immigrants from Germany
Legal immigration for most of us meant just showing up at Ellis Island, and before that at any dock. All of my ancestors were here well before there was a Bureau of Immigration and Naturalization (1906). The most recent immigrant was my namesake (Timothy Fogarty) in 1850. I also have ancestors in Jamestown Colony in 1620, including at least one indigenous great^11 grandmother.
other than slaves being brought in to the country in violation of one regulation or another, there was no such thing as an illegal immigrant until the Immigration Act of 1917, which denied entry to all east Asians and Pacific Islanders.
First quotas limiting entry from various countries was in 1921.
http://immigration.procon.org/view.timeline.php?timelineID=000023
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you hit the nail right in the head! whitey sure as hell aint going to do it, black people would rather stay home and collect their free handouts, and Asians too busy running their small mom and pop shops....think about it ass-hats....
* rolls eyes *
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Just murdering the people that Americans don't want to kill themselves.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/03/man-arrested-in-connection-with-san-francisco-killing-had-been-deported-several/
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Those wacky Mexican nationals. Helping the US economy by keeping the coroners busy.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/06/24/oklahoma-sportscaster-bob-barry-jr-killed-motorcycle-accident-involving-illegal-immigrant
Gallagher reported that the suspect, Gustavo Gutierrez, is a Mexican national who was in the U.S. illegally.
Gutierrez was arrested for causing an accident while operating a vehicle without a state driver’s license and possession of cocaine, Gallagher said.