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Title: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2015, 08:29:17 PM
Not expecting any in home gene therapy dicussions in this thread, im leaning more towards falcon is retarded on drugs
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on June 30, 2015, 08:32:58 PM
Why?  Whats so hard about it?
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 30, 2015, 08:38:40 PM
Not expecting any in home gene therapy dicussions in this thread, im leaning more towards falcon is retarded on drugs

If you have what I like to call a free spirit you will suffer with aging ....

If you can settle with seeing your kids growing and going thru life as you slowly flush away  then is ok .




WoooSHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Marty Champions on June 30, 2015, 09:07:42 PM
Why?  Whats so hard about it?
voice of reason bro   i cant pinpoint it but mentally i feel we become more of our own worst enemy
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: thegamechanger on July 01, 2015, 12:33:27 AM
i dont know about that... most getbiggers spend their days watching porn, posting on getbig and playing video games... something they will continue to be able to do while aging
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 01, 2015, 01:16:03 AM
Not expecting any in home gene therapy dicussions in this thread, im leaning more towards falcon is retarded on drugs

$ 1200 p/m 4 anti old fart staff  ;)

Don't forget to check your Telomers Mr.ac/dc , Basile telomeres must be getting short  :D
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 01, 2015, 04:52:10 AM
voice of reason bro   i cant pinpoint it but mentally i feel we become more of our own worst enemy

It's important to learn to fool yourself about stuff. Like "Oh, this is important." (when in truth it's not important at all. nothing is really important), to enjoy, sometimes to force yourself to enjoy. It's good when one is pretty much a clueless animal, spawning kids one after another and not thinking much about "life" in general, it's easier that way. But we can't really choose one way or another, it is how it is.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Howard on July 01, 2015, 10:33:22 AM
If you have what I like to call a free spirit you will suffer with aging ....

If you can settle with seeing your kids growing and going thru life as you slowly flush away  then is ok .




WoooSHHHHHHHHH

I don't have kids ,so by this logic, I'll never grow old and live forever LOL ;)
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Rudee on July 01, 2015, 10:57:01 AM
Age discrimination is a huge factor.  Once you approach 50, your age works against you, and landing a decent job after a layoff isn't easy. 
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: thegamechanger on July 01, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
yeah life was so much easier before when people didnt get to live at old age...

Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Natural Man on July 01, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
Age discrimination is a huge factor.  Once you approach 50, your age works against you, and landing a decent job after a layoff isn't easy. 
Did you mean, 40 ?   
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 01, 2015, 02:22:15 PM
Age discrimination is a huge factor.  Once you approach 50, your age works against you, and landing a decent job after a layoff isn't easy. 

Who would employ Basile as gym trainer  ???

 :)
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: thegamechanger on July 01, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
you shouldnt need to work at an old age, it's called retiring
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: _bruce_ on July 01, 2015, 03:17:15 PM
Future generations, if they are able to survive, will probably be expected to have work experience of about 20+ years at age 7.
Can't wait when future engineers will be attending university at 27 months only to hit the highly competitive job market in Dubai India in their early tens - building Babel'esque mosques of peace.

Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 01, 2015, 03:25:22 PM
Age discrimination is a huge factor.  Once you approach 50, your age works against you, and landing a decent job after a layoff isn't easy. 

How about thinking in terms of bussiness? You don't have to "search for a job" when you are doing bussiness...  ::)
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Rudee on July 01, 2015, 03:58:41 PM
Did you mean, 40 ?   

Nope, I meant it as I said it.  It's in your mid to upper 40's as you approach your 50's is when shit gets a lot more difficult when finding employment after a layoff or whatever.   Age discrimination is a huge issue that every person will face at one point in their lifetime.   Hopefully you're progressing up the ladder in your career to be the boss at the top of the ladder, because if you're content with a bottom of the rung position in your company, the illusion you have of job security is only that, an illusion. 
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Rudee on July 01, 2015, 04:18:10 PM
How about thinking in terms of bussiness? You don't have to "search for a job" when you are doing bussiness...  ::)

No, but you're always searching for a way to stay relevant and competitive with other businesses, as being a business owner has huge responsibilities.   And in case you weren't aware, more small businesses go bankrupt than flourish.

Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 01, 2015, 04:27:44 PM
No, but you're always searching for a way to stay relevant and competitive with other businesses, as being a business owner has huge responsibilities.   And in case you weren't aware, more small businesses go bankrupt than flourish.

It's more about a mindset. I literally don't know a single person, that was/is strictly bussiness oriented, of whatever age, that is doing bad, regardless of the situation in economics/etc (I mean... just look at Goodrum :D ).. being able to see the opportunities and take action is a job too, just of a different kind.

Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Marty Champions on July 01, 2015, 04:36:14 PM
Future generations, if they are able to survive, will probably be expected to have work experience of about 20+ years at age 7.
Can't wait when future engineers will be attending university at 27 months only to hit the highly competitive job market in Dubai India in their early tens - building Babel'esque mosques of peace.


in about 40 years they will master genetic engineering. A select few will like 3 people will master it in15 years
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 01, 2015, 04:55:10 PM
in about 40 years they will master genetic engineering. A select few will like 3 people will master it in15 years

Already engineered  ;)
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 01, 2015, 05:31:49 PM
in about 40 years they will master genetic engineering. A select few will like 3 people will master it in15 years

I wonder which of the 2 couldn't keep their mouth shut. That certainly wasn't me.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2015, 05:33:18 PM
I want someone to engineer engineering.

Hopefully while wearing a train conductor hat.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Natural Man on July 01, 2015, 05:35:40 PM
Nope, I meant it as I said it.  It's in your mid to upper 40's as you approach your 50's is when shit gets a lot more difficult when finding employment after a layoff or whatever.   Age discrimination is a huge issue that every person will face at one point in their lifetime.   Hopefully you're progressing up the ladder in your career to be the boss at the top of the ladder, because if you're content with a bottom of the rung position in your company, the illusion you have of job security is only that, an illusion. 
There so much competition i see 30 yo being forced to restart a new career  being rejected for younger applicants.
But most of the time it s not about what you know but who you know.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 01, 2015, 05:39:27 PM
There so much competition i see 30 yo being forced to restart a new career  being rejected for younger applicants.
But most of the time it s not about what you know but who you know.

That happens in jobs where you don't need much knowledge/experience. Try to find young applicants who can engineer/write complicated code/manage big company/etc well... In some of the fields it is becoming so complex, that you need 10 years of plain experience/trial-error just to become a good participant. You are speaking about lower class jobs, probably because you work one (nothing wrong with that). You can know whoever you want, if you can't get the job done - you won't last long, simple as that.

To add: I've been making money out of the stuff most ppl doesn't even imagine existing (like traffic selling at a big scale). I can sit on my butt all day long and I will still earn at least 400-500bucks a month. Plenty of money out there, you just have to know how to take it.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2015, 05:41:18 PM
That happens in jobs where you don't need much knowledge/experience. Try to find young applicants who can engineer/write complicated code/manage big company/etc well... In some of the fields it is becoming so complex, that you need 10 years of plain experience/trial-error just to become a good participant.
Good Shitbrain tasks for Asians right there.

Euro-trash as well can sometimes pull off the shit brain tasks.

These people will never learn how to mow a yard, plant a vegetable or ride a horse.  Wastes.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 01, 2015, 05:47:14 PM
Good Shitbrain tasks for Asians right there.

Euro-trash as well can sometimes pull off the shit brain tasks.

These people will never learn how to mow a yard, plant a vegetable or ride a horse.  Wastes.

I suspect you are far from a position to speak about these "tasks", shitbrain or not. Maybe one of these unrecognized geniouses, knowing all, but somehow can't manage to put it to practice? I don't care, however it is. We need all kind of people, these who know how to plant a vegetable too. There's a place for each skill.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
I suspect you are far from a position to speak about these "tasks", shitbrain or not. Maybe one of these unrecognized geniouses, knowing all, but somehow can't manage to put it to practice? I don't care, however it is. We need all kind of people, these who know how to plant a vegetable too. There's a place for each skill.
Theres no place for sub par automobiles like those made by Audi which have the highest deprecation with the shittiest build quality in history.   :-\
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 01, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
Theres no place for sub par automobiles like those made by Audi which have the highest deprecation with the shittiest build quality in history.   :-\

Once again - it's difficult to argue with ppl about stuff they only "heard" about, but haven't ever been able to try. As a user of these sub par automobiles I can assure you - the quality is superb, the pleasure of driving is great, the safety - either and fuel economy ir comparison to the power pretty much blows mind, so I have no idea what are you talking about. Oh, yes, with such complex engineering and electronics, there's a higher chance of something going wrong, understandably. 
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2015, 06:04:19 PM
Once again - it's difficult to argue with ppl about stuff they only "heard" about, but haven't ever been able to try. As a user of these sub par automobiles I can assure you - the quality is superb, the pleasure of driving is great, the safety - either and fuel economy ir comparison to the power pretty much blows mind, so I have no idea what are you talking about. Oh, yes, with such complex engineering and electronics, there's a higher chance of something going wrong, understandably. 
:D

Whatever you say "de_lusion"

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/g556/10-hot-cars-that-depreciate-like-a-stock-market-crash/

http://jalopnik.com/5982789/the-most-depreciated-cars-of-the-past-ten-years
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 01, 2015, 06:25:35 PM
:D

Whatever you say "de_lusion"

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/g556/10-hot-cars-that-depreciate-like-a-stock-market-crash/

http://jalopnik.com/5982789/the-most-depreciated-cars-of-the-past-ten-years

Some people drive and enjoy these cars, while other are spending their time convincing themselves that it's shit anyway, so no big deal they cant buy one. I dont need to read nonsense like that, I have first hand experience, and depreciation, well, never buy it brand new, and after a year or two the price is worth all the pleasure you get. I only live once, idk about you.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 01, 2015, 06:34:13 PM
Some people drive and enjoy these cars, while other are spending their time convincing themselves that it's shit anyway, so no big deal they cant buy one. I dont need to read nonsense like that, I have first hand experience, and depreciation, well, never buy it brand new, and after a year or two the price is worth all the pleasure you get. I only live once, idk about you.
???

They depreciate so much and so fast that anybody can get one, even the top models, very cheap.  I see Hebrews all the time in them.

Come to the United States and see for yourself.

Its a fucking pathetic joke when it comes to Audi A8s.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/search/sss?sort=rel&query=audi+a8
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 01, 2015, 10:52:32 PM
Basile is ageing very very badly  :-\
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 02, 2015, 03:03:02 AM
???

They depreciate so much and so fast that anybody can get one, even the top models, very cheap.  I see Hebrews all the time in them.

Come to the United States and see for yourself.

Its a fucking pathetic joke when it comes to Audi A8s.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/search/sss?sort=rel&query=audi+a8

I have no idea what are you talking about. It's not my goal to sell a car at the same price after 5 years so I don't really care. The fact is - quality is great and driving pleasure is big, beautful engineering overall, and I know this NOT from reading, but using.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 02, 2015, 04:25:42 PM
I have no idea what are you talking about. It's not my goal to sell a car at the same price after 5 years so I don't really care. The fact is - quality is great and driving pleasure is big, beautful engineering overall, and I know this NOT from reading, but using.
Ok buddy,  best 7000 dollars you ever spent right?  :D
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 02, 2015, 04:39:47 PM
Ok buddy,  best 7000 dollars you ever spent right?  :D

Certainly was worth it. Like with many things in life, if you want to enjoy - you have to pay, one way or another.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2015, 05:00:36 PM
???

They depreciate so much and so fast that anybody can get one, even the top models, very cheap.  I see Hebrews all the time in them.

Come to the United States and see for yourself.

Its a fucking pathetic joke when it comes to Audi A8s.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/search/sss?sort=rel&query=audi+a8


Compares to a Mercedes Benz E-Class....both about the same price for a 2005....a little over $10,000. Check Kelly Blue Book.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 02, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
....im leaning more towards falcon is retarded on drugs

Is this an admission?
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 02, 2015, 06:32:53 PM

Compares to a Mercedes Benz E-Class....both about the same price for a 2005....a little over $10,000. Check Kelly Blue Book.

So what?  Thats a piece of shit too.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 03, 2015, 02:39:15 PM
So what?  Thats a piece of shit too.

So which luxury automobile do you not consider a "piece of shit?"

http://www.autotrader.com/research/article/best-cars/227637/top-luxury-cars-with-the-best-resale-value.jsp (http://www.autotrader.com/research/article/best-cars/227637/top-luxury-cars-with-the-best-resale-value.jsp)
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: cephissus on July 03, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
Well working my first 'career' has pretty much driven me insane, so I have to agree, falcon.

Adonis, I envy you... Being able to walk, garden, etc. my own property...  Like a dream come true.  Sure beats the mental torture I subject myself to, day in day out, anyway.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 03, 2015, 11:05:13 PM
So which luxury automobile do you not consider a "piece of shit?"

http://www.autotrader.com/research/article/best-cars/227637/top-luxury-cars-with-the-best-resale-value.jsp (http://www.autotrader.com/research/article/best-cars/227637/top-luxury-cars-with-the-best-resale-value.jsp)

It's hard to consider anything when you've just red about them.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: falco on July 04, 2015, 02:23:46 PM
Theres no place for sub par automobiles like those made by Audi which have the highest deprecation with the shittiest build quality in history.   :-\

Not sure if serious.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 04, 2015, 02:26:45 PM
Not sure if serious.
Serious.  Look it up.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 04, 2015, 02:58:53 PM
It's hard to consider anything when you've just red about them.

Exactly! When I buy a car, I don't buy it because of the ads for it, it's projected resale value, how luxurious it is or to some degree the reviews on it. I buy it because it fits my needs. Always liked Jaguars. Sat in one once and it didn't feel right. I felt like I was looking over the hood to see the road. I'm not that short.

I keep cars for a very long time compared to many folks, on average about 10 years. My present car, a Mazda 6 wagon is 11 years old with 135,000 miles on it. It still looks nice and runs well. Currently, it needs a new exhaust manifold, which includes the catalytic converter. The part is a little over $1,000. With a couple of other things that need attention, the repair will probably run just under $3,000, which is not even 10 payments on a new modestly priced car. My mechanic is always asking if I want to sell it to him. Obviously, I am not trying to make an impression on anyone with the snazziness or cost of my automobile.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Marty Champions on July 04, 2015, 03:02:36 PM
I drive it to they weels fall off
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: cephissus on July 04, 2015, 04:37:49 PM
What do you do?

I have a fairly flexible job, which mostly involves tech support and programming, but a bunch of other stuff as well.

All of it sitting, standing, or pacing around in a building, though.  Drives me crazy.  When I'm walking around the city in the evening, after a good workout, I feel great, and think much more freely.

Sitting inside all day is the worst.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Marty Champions on July 04, 2015, 04:47:13 PM
I have a fairly flexible job, which mostly involves tech support and programming, but a bunch of other stuff as well.

All of it sitting, standing, or pacing around in a building, though.  Drives me crazy.  When I'm walking around the city in the evening, after a good workout, I feel great, and think much more freely.

Sitting inside all day is the worst.
i think me and bdb are gonna have a few beers and walk on the street some
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Army of One on July 04, 2015, 04:49:13 PM
Well working my first 'career' has pretty much driven me insane, so I have to agree, falcon.

Adonis, I envy you... Being able to walk, garden, etc. my own property...  Like a dream come true.  Sure beats the mental torture I subject myself to, day in day out, anyway.

Thinking you have to live up to some kind of expectation is no way to live
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 04, 2015, 04:49:57 PM
Falcon, U should employ Basile as scaffolding photographer ......................
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Natural Man on July 04, 2015, 04:53:22 PM
I have a fairly flexible job, which mostly involves tech support and programming, but a bunch of other stuff as well.

All of it sitting, standing, or pacing around in a building, though.  Drives me crazy.  When I'm walking around the city in the evening, after a good workout, I feel great, and think much more freely.

Sitting inside all day is the worst.
worked in IT for 6 years webdesigner/content manager and other bullshit titles -basically laughing all day with collegues surfing playing games and "working"  like two or three hours  a day-, got bored of office work, thought i wanted a" more meaningful" role and career...got into studies/health and social work... oh boy what a mistake. It was way less stressing to displace files , create some bullshit graphics , "code" websites and answer fucking emails all day. Sure it can get repetitive and boring, you want to smash your computer/mouse but are you really sure you want more stress? Given the choice now, i would choose boredom over stress. I learned nothing really good about life attempting to care about people needs, mostly that some people are luckier than others and...thats all. Most of the time you cant do jack shit to help people, you re just sitting there telling them stuff they either cant comprehend or cant really do. All they want are money/free handouts. And i dont even blame them. I came to despise all the collegues -mostly women- i had because they were making fun of the people they were supposed to help more tha anything. Comparing themselves to those who have less to make themselves feel better about their own lives. It s rampant in all the system, i leared that most doctors hate mankind and their patients with a passion. No really, health and social working are definitely not for me, way too cynical.

I regret so fucking much leaving IT now, im  considering going back but it s tough. Seriously, stay sit in your fucking chair doing fuck all, there s no better place to spend the rest of your life. As you age the less stress you feel at work the better. Stress takes its toll way faster. Just my opinion. Stay healthy, practice sport, stay sit in a chair moving a mouse as a job and you ll live til you re 120. Isnt it what it s all about in the end, what truly matters, lasting longer than anyone else.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Marty Champions on July 04, 2015, 04:58:17 PM
Falcon, U should employ Basile as scaffolding photographer ......................
i wish basile was on my couch having a discussion
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 04, 2015, 05:00:37 PM
i wish basile was on my couch having a discussion

U drink very fine beer & Cornuto Basile is cheap wine boozer  8) so ...................
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Tapeworm on July 04, 2015, 05:41:11 PM
basically laughing all day with collegues surfing playing games and "working"  like two or three hours  a day

Why I have no problem charging every last dollar.  Most people do nothing all day long and expect a raise for it.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Natural Man on July 04, 2015, 05:57:18 PM
Why I have no problem charging every last dollar.  Most people do nothing all day long and expect a raise for it.
people in office jobs mostly do nothing behind their fucking computers. Even in call centers which is probably the most stressful office job, it s still way less stressing than any manual or  healthcare job. See this asshole, woman or dude whose sitting behind a desk all day? he s smarter than everyone else. (except if he s obese of course but you get the point). Just like the men who werent drafted in wars, the guys behind desks nowadays are those who will live the longest. When you re grown up, married/family man thats all that matter.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Tapeworm on July 05, 2015, 03:19:25 AM
people in office jobs mostly do nothing behind their fucking computers. Even in call centers which is probably the most stressful office job, it s still way less stressing than any manual or  healthcare job. See this asshole, woman or dude whose sitting behind a desk all day? he s smarter than everyone else. (except if he s obese of course but you get the point). Just like the men who werent drafted in wars, the guys behind desks nowadays are those who will live the longest. When you re grown up, married/family man thats all that matter.

It's common, this weird pride in accomplishing as little as possible.  Learning nothing.  Improving at nothing.  Getting a little weaker every day.  Not for me, thank you.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: cephissus on July 06, 2015, 10:23:23 AM
It's common, this weird pride in accomplishing as little as possible.  Learning nothing.  Improving at nothing.  Getting a little weaker every day.  Not for me, thank you.

I can't stand it... People obsessed with the abstract representation of their work.  'Hitting the numbers', validation through 'metrics', writing up little summaries of one's accomplishments for management...

I focus on creating something useful.  Work I can learn from.  I struggle every day, trying to find a way to spend my time growing within the confines of my 'job description', but it's hard...
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2015, 11:18:37 AM
There is a certain joy in working as a volunteer as opposed to working for money. Not that money is bad, but having to earn a living can make work seem like a drudge. How often do you hear of someone turning a hobby into a way to earn a living and they end up not liking the hobby anymore. I feel fortunate to be free to work doing just what I want to do as a volunteer.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 06, 2015, 11:28:06 AM
worked in IT for 6 years webdesigner/content manager and other bullshit titles -basically laughing all day with collegues surfing playing games and "working"  like two or three hours  a day-, got bored of office work, thought i wanted a" more meaningful" role and career...got into studies/health and social work... oh boy what a mistake. It was way less stressing to displace files , create some bullshit graphics , "code" websites and answer fucking emails all day. Sure it can get repetitive and boring, you want to smash your computer/mouse but are you really sure you want more stress? Given the choice now, i would choose boredom over stress. I learned nothing really good about life attempting to care about people needs, mostly that some people are luckier than others and...thats all. Most of the time you cant do jack shit to help people, you re just sitting there telling them stuff they either cant comprehend or cant really do. All they want are money/free handouts. And i dont even blame them. I came to despise all the collegues -mostly women- i had because they were making fun of the people they were supposed to help more tha anything. Comparing themselves to those who have less to make themselves feel better about their own lives. It s rampant in all the system, i leared that most doctors hate mankind and their patients with a passion. No really, health and social working are definitely not for me, way too cynical.

I regret so fucking much leaving IT now, im  considering going back but it s tough. Seriously, stay sit in your fucking chair doing fuck all, there s no better place to spend the rest of your life. As you age the less stress you feel at work the better. Stress takes its toll way faster. Just my opinion. Stay healthy, practice sport, stay sit in a chair moving a mouse as a job and you ll live til you re 120. Isnt it what it s all about in the end, what truly matters, lasting longer than anyone else.


Great post and advice, I can affirm that being someone who works in it. And if you were curious about the field- just spend some time learning and will be able to get back into it in no time, not like many people have a brain for that and technologies are spreading way faster than its possible to make new specialists. Its obviously not about drinking coffee all day,far from that (sometimes i spend hoirs andbhours and hours trying to complete some task, only thing that helps is that I like the process most of the time and joy after completing is almost better than money), if you want to take it up a notch and earn decent money.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: _bruce_ on July 06, 2015, 02:38:17 PM
people in office jobs mostly do nothing behind their fucking computers. Even in call centers which is probably the most stressful office job, it s still way less stressing than any manual or  healthcare job. See this asshole, woman or dude whose sitting behind a desk all day? he s smarter than everyone else. (except if he s obese of course but you get the point). Just like the men who werent drafted in wars, the guys behind desks nowadays are those who will live the longest. When you re grown up, married/family man thats all that matter.

Haha - so true.
Added bonus for decorating your office with self printed diploma which sound exotic - living the dream.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: True on July 06, 2015, 04:05:52 PM
worked in IT for 6 years webdesigner/content manager and other bullshit titles -basically laughing all day with collegues surfing playing games and "working"  like two or three hours  a day-, got bored of office work, thought i wanted a" more meaningful" role and career...got into studies/health and social work... oh boy what a mistake. It was way less stressing to displace files , create some bullshit graphics , "code" websites and answer fucking emails all day. Sure it can get repetitive and boring, you want to smash your computer/mouse but are you really sure you want more stress? Given the choice now, i would choose boredom over stress. I learned nothing really good about life attempting to care about people needs, mostly that some people are luckier than others and...thats all. Most of the time you cant do jack shit to help people, you re just sitting there telling them stuff they either cant comprehend or cant really do. All they want are money/free handouts. And i dont even blame them. I came to despise all the collegues -mostly women- i had because they were making fun of the people they were supposed to help more tha anything. Comparing themselves to those who have less to make themselves feel better about their own lives. It s rampant in all the system, i leared that most doctors hate mankind and their patients with a passion. No really, health and social working are definitely not for me, way too cynical.

I regret so fucking much leaving IT now, im  considering going back but it s tough. Seriously, stay sit in your fucking chair doing fuck all, there s no better place to spend the rest of your life. As you age the less stress you feel at work the better. Stress takes its toll way faster. Just my opinion. Stay healthy, practice sport, stay sit in a chair moving a mouse as a job and you ll live til you re 120. Isnt it what it s all about in the end, what truly matters, lasting longer than anyone else.

I don't care how long I last, and I certaintly wouldn't wanna live to a 100 anyways. Rather just die much younger and get it over with. I just want to live happily right here and right now with all the love, passion and success I can gather. For me, life is about working hard to achieve your dreams, enjoy what you do and yourself, and take care of the people you love. Nothing else matters.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Natural Man on July 06, 2015, 04:56:21 PM
There is a certain joy in working as a volunteer as opposed to working for money. Not that money is bad, but having to earn a living can make work seem like a drudge. How often do you hear of someone turning a hobby into a way to earn a living and they end up not liking the hobby anymore. I feel fortunate to be free to work doing just what I want to do as a volunteer.
thats because you re old , retired and it allows you to socialize, talk to people instead of staying at home behind tv 24/7. Old people would kill to still have some recognition and use in society. Young people on the other hand dont give a fuck they want/need money to survive, if they have to talk to people they prefer to be paid for it.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Marty Champions on July 06, 2015, 05:36:20 PM
It's common, this weird pride in accomplishing as little as possible.  Learning nothing.  Improving at nothing.  Getting a little weaker every day.  Not for me, thank you.
my peers at school were all this way i was halfway gone this route working out saved me
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 06, 2015, 06:15:55 PM
Money and buying things are so boring for me.  I don`t want anything anymore really.  There is nothing I want that I don't already have.  :-\
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2015, 07:30:48 PM
I don't care how long I last, and I certaintly wouldn't wanna live to a 100 anyways. Rather just die much younger and get it over with. I just want to live happily right here and right now with all the love, passion and success I can gather. For me, life is about working hard to achieve your dreams, enjoy what you do and yourself, and take care of the people you love. Nothing else matters.

Good thoughts. You are probably young enough that 100 seems beyond ancient.

I am only 30 years away from being 100. I'm in almost perfect health. As long as my health (both physical and mental) are good, it doesn't matter how long I live. The longer the better. However, if I become debilitated to the point where I now longer enjoy life, then I'd prefer to die. It should be so easy. We die when we die. It is largely out of our control.

Work to achieve your dreams by all means, but remember to enjoy life along the way. I dream of having a beautiful garden. I'm willing to work to get it, by work I mean actually working in the garden. I don't need more money than I already have to fulfill this dream.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 06, 2015, 07:35:14 PM
I don't have kids ,so by this logic, I'll never grow old and live forever LOL ;)

You will suffer as you age .....  read the entire comment




WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2015, 07:39:30 PM
thats because you re old , retired and it allows you to socialize, talk to people instead of staying at home behind tv 24/7. Old people would kill to still have some recognition and use in society. Young people on the other hand dont give a fuck they want/need money to survive, if they have to talk to people they prefer to be paid for it.

We don't need to "kill" to achieve recognition or value in society. All one needs to do is get involved. The nice part of this is many of us don't need to earn more money, which definitely frees up more time to be involved in other meaningful ways besides just to earn a living.

I advise young folks to work their asses off to make enough income to allow for saving and investing part of it for retirement. Believe me, no one is living the life of Riley on just Social Security Benefits. Many folks want everything right now. Saving for the future just isn't in their agenda, which is really too bad because no one is going to bale them out when they are too old or too feeble to work.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2015, 07:46:51 PM
I don't have kids ,so by this logic, I'll never grow old and live forever LOL ;)

If but that were true. Unfortunately it makes no difference whether you do or don't have children, you are still going to grow old and eventually die. My daughter, her husband and son share a house together with me. When my wife was ill, having them here to help was an enormous benefit. As I get older and move a little slower, them helping by doing chores, cooking meals and contributing in many other ways make all of our lives richer and better, especially mine. 
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 06, 2015, 07:50:39 PM
Money and buying things are so boring for me.  I don`t want anything anymore really.  There is nothing I want that I don't already have.  :-\

It can be a lot of fun to want/dream about something. Often once you get it though, you are disappointed or throw it aside for something else you want. I believe this is why, if your basic needs are met, wanting good relationships with those you love should be fulfilling enough.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Master Blaster on July 06, 2015, 09:41:09 PM
Why?  Whats so hard about it?

zero sum game bro. deck is stacked against us, do the math...
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 07, 2015, 10:36:17 AM
zero sum game bro. deck is stacked against us, do the math...
Who cares what happens?  The world will spin without you or me and eventually that won't spin any more either.  The best we can do, anyone can do, is make it more enjoyable for ourselves and others while we are here.  Since we already know the ending, may as well make the time in between at least somewhat pleasant somehow.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Natural Man on July 07, 2015, 10:49:55 AM
the rich man will always trouble the poor. Just like the weak monkey will always be harassed by the alpha monkeys. When you re a kid everything sounds fun until you re an adult and realize it s all about killing instead of being killed; all the "games" you "played" were just training for the real fight once grown up. Games serve only one purpose in all animal species: train to kill for when you ll be on your own.
 Some are better prepared for it than others, and history is written by the winners.
Pleasure is felt when killing, dominating, pain is felt when losing, being dominated.

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Since we already know the ending, may as well make the time in between at least somewhat pleasant somehow.
problem is to be happy, you ve got to step on someone else's head and actually face his/her pain to feel "luckier" and "happier" then him/her.  One 's pleasure, hapiness, is always at the expense of someone's else pleasure, that s just the way it is. A winner needs losers to actually feel like a winner, otherwise he wouldnt feel like one. Nature isnt designed to be fair, all lifeforms exploit each others to "make a living" , survive.
Also most people who pretend to be happy because they ' re "helping" others are actually fooling themselves; they re in fact exploiting others weaknesses to make a living. Their ultimate goal cant be to completely cure their customers/patients problems; otherwise they wouldnt have a job anymore. They need a steady stream of "unlucky" people to "take care" of. Most social work is lucky people exploiting poorer, unlucky people. Irony is the rich need poor people to exploit and make a living while the poor constantly wish to become as strong as their masters to.. join and/or replace them.
There s a reason why so called "human resources" exist, it s because the weak is a resource for the strong. In all animals species, the luckiest, strongest, fastest individuals exploit, prey, on the weaker individuals and use them as slaves/resources.

And yeah, everything is vain for whoever understands the true nature of existence.

Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: _bruce_ on July 07, 2015, 11:02:58 AM
the rich man will always trouble the poor. When you re a kid everything sounds fun until you re an adult and realize it s all about killing instead of being killed; all the "games" you "played" were just training for the real fight once grown up. Games serve only one purpose in all animal species: train to kill for when you ll be on your own.
 Some are better prepared for it than others, and history is written by the winners.
Pleasure is felt when killing, dominating, pain is felt when losing, being dominated.
 problem is to be happy, you ve got to step on someone else's head and actually face his/her pain to feel "luckier" and "happier" then him/her.  One 's pleasure, hapiness, is always at the expense of someone's else pleasure, that s just the way it is. A winner needs losers to actually feel like a winner, otherwise he wouldnt feel like one.
Also most people who pretend to be happy because they ' re "helping" others are actually fooling themselves; they re in fact exploiting others weaknesses to make a living. Their ultimate goal cant be to completely cure their customers/patients problems; otherwise they wouldnt have a job anymore.
There s a reason why so called "human resources" exist, it s because the weak is a resource for the strong.

And yeah, everything is vain for whoever understands the true nature of existence.



Well said - although there's also happiness that comes from within from just doing what you like doing. It's the intent that counts and most folks are, as you correctly stated, lying to themselves and others...
until they join the dead.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: thegamechanger on July 07, 2015, 11:07:12 AM
natural man is the biggest beta ive ever seen.
he never miss a chance to whine and cry about how the strong bully the weak.
grow a fucking pair you miserable little twat and stop bitching.

Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Primemuscle on July 07, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
the rich man will always trouble the poor. Just like the weak monkey will always be harassed by the alpha monkeys. When you re a kid everything sounds fun until you re an adult and realize it s all about killing instead of being killed; all the "games" you "played" were just training for the real fight once grown up. Games serve only one purpose in all animal species: train to kill for when you ll be on your own.
 Some are better prepared for it than others, and history is written by the winners.
Pleasure is felt when killing, dominating, pain is felt when losing, being dominated.
 problem is to be happy, you ve got to step on someone else's head and actually face his/her pain to feel "luckier" and "happier" then him/her.  One 's pleasure, hapiness, is always at the expense of someone's else pleasure, that s just the way it is. A winner needs losers to actually feel like a winner, otherwise he wouldnt feel like one. Nature isnt designed to be fair, all lifeforms exploit each others to "make a living" , survive.
Also most people who pretend to be happy because they ' re "helping" others are actually fooling themselves; they re in fact exploiting others weaknesses to make a living. Their ultimate goal cant be to completely cure their customers/patients problems; otherwise they wouldnt have a job anymore. They need a steady stream of "unlucky" people to "take care" of. Most social work is lucky people exploiting poorer, unlucky people. Irony is the rich need poor people to exploit and make a living while the poor constantly wish to become as strong as their masters to.. join and/or replace them.
There s a reason why so called "human resources" exist, it s because the weak is a resource for the strong. In all animals species, the luckiest, strongest, fastest individuals exploit, prey, on the weaker individuals and use them as slaves/resources.

And yeah, everything is vain for whoever understands the true nature of existence.



Your concept of what makes people feel happy seems a bit warped to me.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: da_vinci on July 07, 2015, 04:13:36 PM
natural man is the biggest beta ive ever seen.
he never miss a chance to whine and cry about how the strong bully the weak.
grow a fucking pair you miserable little twat and stop bitching.

His posts are very good usualy. Tho' I'd wish him to find some time for a more positive outlook, would be healthy. Who knows, maybe he's the most positive guy you'd meet in a real life, it's just that he uses this form of a "vent" (and you need one if you are smart/conscious of how life works) to let out the negative point of view.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: Marty Champions on July 07, 2015, 04:17:36 PM
Who cares what happens?  The world will spin without you or me and eventually that won't spin any more either.  The best we can do, anyone can do, is make it more enjoyable for ourselves and others while we are here.  Since we already know the ending, may as well make the time in between at least somewhat pleasant somehow.
everytime i read this thread there is a sadness i feel fuuuuuuuaaack
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: thegamechanger on July 07, 2015, 04:19:02 PM
why listen to natural man when john lennon said the same thing 45 years earlier:

As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty-odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There's room at the top they're telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill

Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: True on July 07, 2015, 05:53:14 PM
the rich man will always trouble the poor. Just like the weak monkey will always be harassed by the alpha monkeys. When you re a kid everything sounds fun until you re an adult and realize it s all about killing instead of being killed; all the "games" you "played" were just training for the real fight once grown up. Games serve only one purpose in all animal species: train to kill for when you ll be on your own.
 Some are better prepared for it than others, and history is written by the winners.
Pleasure is felt when killing, dominating, pain is felt when losing, being dominated.
 problem is to be happy, you ve got to step on someone else's head and actually face his/her pain to feel "luckier" and "happier" then him/her.  One 's pleasure, hapiness, is always at the expense of someone's else pleasure, that s just the way it is. A winner needs losers to actually feel like a winner, otherwise he wouldnt feel like one. Nature isnt designed to be fair, all lifeforms exploit each others to "make a living" , survive.
Also most people who pretend to be happy because they ' re "helping" others are actually fooling themselves; they re in fact exploiting others weaknesses to make a living. Their ultimate goal cant be to completely cure their customers/patients problems; otherwise they wouldnt have a job anymore. They need a steady stream of "unlucky" people to "take care" of. Most social work is lucky people exploiting poorer, unlucky people. Irony is the rich need poor people to exploit and make a living while the poor constantly wish to become as strong as their masters to.. join and/or replace them.
There s a reason why so called "human resources" exist, it s because the weak is a resource for the strong. In all animals species, the luckiest, strongest, fastest individuals exploit, prey, on the weaker individuals and use them as slaves/resources.

And yeah, everything is vain for whoever understands the true nature of existence.



While you are right in some aspects in exposing our true nature, the world isnt necessarily that black and white. while it is true that many occupations "prey" on unlucky people, what the fuck would you do without them? No police, no social work, no doctors, no fireman etc. = The world would be in a chatoic mess with a LOT more unlucky people! You should view people as being PROBLEM SOLVERS, not "exploiters"... ::) And as an adult, I have no need for making other people feeling inferior or weak. I treat everybody as respectfully as I can and do not try to take advantage. I treat people fairly, and expect the same thing back. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: lets face it ,mentally life is going to ge harder to deal with as we age
Post by: The True Adonis on July 07, 2015, 05:54:57 PM