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Title: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: bigmikecox on July 08, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Seriously, dude is as healthy as a horse!!! 
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: HTexan on July 08, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
$$$$$ hope this helps.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: BB on July 08, 2015, 01:58:09 PM
Indeed, he came down with it when the disease was in a state of flux medically with all the new anti-virals and therapies, and he had boatloads of cash to actually afford them. He's lucky, a few years earlier, and he'd have had it much rougher.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Overload on July 08, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
The best meds/treatment money can buy.


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Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Dave D on July 08, 2015, 02:04:40 PM
False flag?

He's HIV free like Tommy Morrison.

To bad cancer took him out
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: timfogarty on July 08, 2015, 02:07:47 PM
Since the mid 90s, when protease inhibitors came out, HIV became a manageable disease. I have many friends who have been positive for 25+ years doing well today. And everyone in the US has equal access to the HIV meds.  If you don't have insurance, and make less than around $50k (differs by state), you qualify for the ADAP program.

With rare exceptions, the only people having problems with HIV are drug addicts.  Hard to take your meds consistently when tweaking for 5 days
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: HTexan on July 08, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
Since the mid 90s, when protease inhibitors came out, HIV became a manageable disease. I have many friends who have been positive for 25+ years doing well today. And everyone in the US has equal access to the HIV meds.  If you don't have insurance, and make less than around $50k (differs by state), you qualify for the ADAP program.

With rare exceptions, the only people having problems with HIV are drug addicts.  Hard to take your meds consistently when tweaking for 5 days
any of your friends die from it?
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: el numero uno on July 08, 2015, 02:39:13 PM
Even if you don't die from it, you must not go raw never again, which is enough punishment for anyone.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on July 08, 2015, 02:42:37 PM
Since the mid 90s, when protease inhibitors came out, HIV became a manageable disease. I have many friends who have been positive for 25+ years doing well today. And everyone in the US has equal access to the HIV meds.  If you don't have insurance, and make less than around $50k (differs by state), you qualify for the ADAP program.

With rare exceptions, the only people having problems with HIV are drug addicts.  Hard to take your meds consistently when tweaking for 5 days

This. Well said
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Rambone on July 08, 2015, 02:42:44 PM
Even if you don't die from it, you must not go raw never again, which is enough punishment for anyone.
:D
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: timfogarty on July 08, 2015, 03:03:30 PM
any of your friends die from it?

way too many, but none since 1992
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: SF1900 on July 08, 2015, 03:09:14 PM
You realize people with HIV pretty much live as long as people without HIV? Obviously early detection and meds.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 08, 2015, 03:11:38 PM
Can you not work and collect disability if your HIV+?

Might explain Tbombs bug chasing
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Hulk-smash! on July 08, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
The strain he was infected w/ is one that has not been repeatedly exposed to the recently developed antiretro-viral drugs so it hasn't had the time to overcome it as it does in alot of the past 5 or so yrs infected patients.

http://www.livescience.com/16909-magic-johnson-hiv-aids-anniversary.html
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: HTexan on July 08, 2015, 03:18:12 PM
way too many, but none since 1992
Do you take the triviada anti-hiv pill?
http://io9.com/the-truth-about-truvada-can-one-pill-really-protect-yo-1683541510
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Carlton G. Long on July 08, 2015, 04:14:44 PM
Magic giving a lot of false hope to polesmokers.  All part of a greater plan.

Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: trapz101 on July 08, 2015, 06:57:02 PM
You realize people with HIV pretty much live as longlonger than people without HIV? Obviously early detection and meds.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 08, 2015, 06:58:39 PM
He has HIV not full blown AIDS. 
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: The Scott on July 08, 2015, 07:01:54 PM
Who cares?  How does he survive the embarrassment of his  son? 
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: SquidVicious on July 08, 2015, 07:07:11 PM
Almost benign enough to inspire a new generation of pozzers.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Core on July 08, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
way too many, but none since 1992

really? man it sounds like it was a massacre back in the day
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Hulk-smash! on July 08, 2015, 07:48:48 PM
Swayze dîed of AIDS.  Isn't interesting how in the past 20 yrs no public figures (celebs, athletes,) have died of AIDS?  All "cancer"...uh huh.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: BB on July 08, 2015, 08:00:03 PM
really? man it sounds like it was a massacre back in the day

You an get a bit of the early years skimming through -

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Frontline also did a good long piece here - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/view/ .

And finally -

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were decent, the top one especially so, the bottom on is on Netflix.

It's interesting to look back on it for me with an adult's eye.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 08, 2015, 08:03:33 PM
Seriously, dude is as healthy as a horse!!! 

His T cell count is probably as strong as a non-infected person. Drugs to combat the damage HIV can cause has come a long way in the last 35 years.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: forillagorilla on July 08, 2015, 08:07:12 PM
Swayze dîed of AIDS.  Isn't interesting how in the past 20 yrs no public figures (celebs, athletes,) have died of AIDS?  All "cancer"...uh huh.

Where did you read Swayze had aids??

I do know that Lyle Alzado didn't have " brain cancer"... It was well known by many that he was gay and well hidden...
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: Papper on July 08, 2015, 09:22:26 PM
Swayze dîed of AIDS.  Isn't interesting how in the past 20 yrs no public figures (celebs, athletes,) have died of AIDS?  All "cancer"...uh huh.

That is very interesting.

Jobs?
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: timfogarty on July 08, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
That is very interesting.  Jobs?

No evidence of that.  As I said, with rare exceptions, these days no one who has access to HIV meds should develop full blown AIDS.  HIV is now a manageable disease.  Of course other diseases make it more complicated, such as Hep-C. Or some treatments for cancer, which suppress your immune system even more.

Now people who have been on HIV meds for 20+ years do seem to have a higher risk for heart disease.  But those doses in the early years tended to be rather harsh.
Title: Re: How Has Magic Johnson Survived 20 Years with HIV?
Post by: HTexan on July 08, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Because cancer is fucking serious and can get you no matter how rich you are.