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Title: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: Neymar Barca on July 11, 2015, 09:56:23 AM
not mine

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Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: thegamechanger on July 11, 2015, 10:06:49 AM
alert high just once? time to up the dosage!
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: io856 on July 11, 2015, 10:10:25 AM
fuck it

up the dose
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 11, 2015, 10:13:29 AM
fuck it

up the dose

Right when in doubt Up the Mother Fucking dose.
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 11, 2015, 10:23:56 AM
not mine

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=576139.0;attach=628700;image)

A couple of things...

I wouldn't be concerned with the elevations in RBC, Hemoglobin & Hematocrit, as those are merely marginal elevations and since this person just finished a bodybuilding show 5-days prior, it's most likely related to dehydration. Dehydration almost always gives you elevated RBC, Hemoglobin & Hematocrit levels (Think of those three values as particles in a cup of water, the more water you have in the cup, the less you are able to see and quantify the particles AND the less water, the more apparent those particles are) so that's not an issue worth discussing, because as soon as they re-hydrate, those levels will fall within the normal range.

Regarding the BUN & Creatinine levels, these levels are marginally elevated. If you look at the BUN-to-Creatinine Ratio, it's at 24, which most likely is simply a reflection of dehydration once again. I doubt it's anything like acute renal failure or shock.

Now, the AST & ALT levels, those are on the higher side and are a direct reflection of possible liver damage.

For instance, the elevated ALT level which is moderately-significantly increased could be a sign of: Hepatitis, Hepatic necrosis, Hepatic ischemia, Cirrhosis, Cholestasis, Hepatic tumor, Hepatotoxic drugs or even something like trauma to muscle mass.

The elevated AST levels (which aren't terrible at the 202 value) could be a sign of: skeletal muscle trauma, myopathy, heat stroke, burns and/or use of hepatotoxic drugs.

Unfortunately, without more of a workup and an idea of the symptomatic presentation, I can't reach a proper diagnosis and would only be able to provide viable guesses.

"1"
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: SF1900 on July 11, 2015, 10:42:43 AM
When he or she dies, his family will say, "He had a congenital defect that no one knew about it," while completely ignoring the tons of crap he or she is sticking into their body.
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on July 11, 2015, 10:50:23 AM
When he or she dies, his family will say, "He had a congenital defect that no one knew about it," while completely ignoring the tons of crap he or she is sticking into their body.


HAHAHAHAHA! !!!
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: SF1900 on July 11, 2015, 10:53:02 AM

HAHAHAHAHA! !!!

It never has anything to do with the copious amounts of drugs. Must have been a birth defect.
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: calfzilla on July 11, 2015, 11:00:56 AM
When he or she dies, his family will say, "He had a congenital defect that no one knew about it," while completely ignoring the tons of crap he or she is sticking into their body.

 :D
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: Necrosis on July 11, 2015, 11:04:11 AM
A couple of things...

I wouldn't be concerned with the elevations in RBC, Hemoglobin & Hematocrit, as those are merely marginal elevations and since this person just finished a bodybuilding show 5-days prior, it's most likely related to dehydration. Dehydration almost always gives you elevated RBC, Hemoglobin & Hematocrit levels (Think of those three values as particles in a cup of water, the more water you have in the cup, the less you are able to see and quantify the particles AND the less water, the more apparent those particles are) so that's not an issue worth discussing, because as soon as they re-hydrate, those levels will fall within the normal range.

Regarding the BUN & Creatinine levels, these levels are marginally elevated. If you look at the BUN-to-Creatinine Ratio, it's at 24, which most likely is simply a reflection of dehydration once again. I doubt it's anything like acute renal failure or shock.

Now, the AST & ALT levels, those are on the higher side and are a direct reflection of possible liver damage.

For instance, the elevated ALT level which is moderately-significantly increased could be a sign of: Hepatitis, Hepatic necrosis, Hepatic ischemia, Cirrhosis, Cholestasis, Hepatic tumor, Hepatotoxic drugs or even something like trauma to muscle mass.

The elevated AST levels (which aren't terrible at the 202 value) could be a sign of: skeletal muscle trauma, myopathy, heat stroke, burns and/or use of hepatotoxic drugs.

Unfortunately, without more of a workup and an idea of the symptomatic presentation, I can't reach a proper diagnosis and would only be able to provide viable guesses.

"1"


It's clear I think that he has liver damage, which will reverse and is iatrogenic or better yet self induced.

His eGFR is low, his kidneys are struggling

drugs induced the changes in RBC's etc.

There is no diagnosis to be made.

Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: Hulk-smash! on July 11, 2015, 11:10:24 AM
Your BUN (blood urea nitrogen) levels are almost 2x the max (40ng/dl) according the Mayo Clinic standards.  Your GFR (glomular filtration rate) indicate your inducing permanent kidney damage doing what your doing.

http://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/8472

http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/blood-urea-nitrogen/basics/results/prc-20020239

Ask Tom Prince, Flex Wheeler or Sergio Oliva (no wait he died from kidney failure) if they would ignore a high BUN/Creatinine/low GFR lab result.  Then again if you listen to idiots ^ who tell you "F it you only live once keep juicin'" then you deserve what you get.  Its your decision.
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: Hulk-smash! on July 11, 2015, 11:14:51 AM
When he or she dies, his family will say, "He had a congenital defect that no one knew about it," while completely ignoring the tons of crap he or she is sticking into their body.

Yep.
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 11, 2015, 11:15:08 AM

It's clear I think that he has liver damage, which will reverse and is iatrogenic or better yet self induced.

His eGFR is low, his kidneys are struggling

drugs induced the changes in RBC's etc.

There is no diagnosis to be made.


Certainly signs of liver damage, caused most likely by hepatotoxic drugs for contest prep  but not certain, since labs don't tell us that much.

eGFR has a marginal decrease. I would blame that and the elevated rbc and H&H to dehydration.

Without seeing more, hard to diagnose anything. Then again, maybe Neymar can chime in.

"1"
Title: Re: Blood work 5 days post show
Post by: Grape Ape on July 11, 2015, 11:25:33 AM
not mine

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Guessing you were camped in Palumbo's trash can when he threw this away?

Go fuck yourself.