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your thoughts? or do you guys even care :D ??
LETS GO WIGGS! LETS GO!!!
"One of the US supreme court justices who found themselves on the opposite side of Friday’s historic endorsement of same-sex marriage has warned that the ruling will be used to “vilify Americans who are unwilling to assent to the new orthodoxy”, a group he said now faced being “labeled as bigots”.
Gay marriage declared legal across the US in historic supreme court ruling
Justice Samuel Alito said the ruling could leave the country suffering from “bitter and lasting wounds” in a dissenting opinion that veered away from legal argument, and head-first into political and cultural commentary.
“I assume that those who cling to old beliefs will be able to whisper their thoughts in the recesses of their homes, but if they repeat those views in public, they will risk being labeled as bigots and treated as such by governments, employers and schools,” he wrote.
http://theolivebranchreport.com/justice-alito-christians-will-now-be-labeled-as-bigots-by-governments-employers-schools/
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/26/gay-marriage-supreme-court-justices-dissent
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your thoughts? or do you guys even care :D ??
LETS GO WIGGS! LETS GO!!!
"One of the US supreme court justices who found themselves on the opposite side of Friday’s historic endorsement of same-sex marriage has warned that the ruling will be used to “vilify Americans who are unwilling to assent to the new orthodoxy”, a group he said now faced being “labeled as bigots”.
Gay marriage declared legal across the US in historic supreme court ruling
Justice Samuel Alito said the ruling could leave the country suffering from “bitter and lasting wounds” in a dissenting opinion that veered away from legal argument, and head-first into political and cultural commentary.
“I assume that those who cling to old beliefs will be able to whisper their thoughts in the recesses of their homes, but if they repeat those views in public, they will risk being labeled as bigots and treated as such by governments, employers and schools,” he wrote.
http://theolivebranchreport.com/justice-alito-christians-will-now-be-labeled-as-bigots-by-governments-employers-schools/
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/26/gay-marriage-supreme-court-justices-dissent
Gay marriage has never been illegal.
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Gay marriage has never been illegal.
x2. And Christians have always been labeled Bigots.
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kinda ignored the fact that traditional man to woman marriage supporters are labeled as bigots. Kinda scary when "officials" are saying shit like that, but hey, christians are evil :D
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http://illinoisfamily.org/homosexuality/homosexual-activist-admits-true-purpose-of-battle-is-to-destroy-marriage/
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Who cares?
"Bigot" is just a word created by liberals to attack anyone who disagree's with them.
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Who cares?
"Bigot" is just a word created by liberals to attack anyone who disagree's with them.
I am one of the Bigot guys on here.
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http://illinoisfamily.org/homosexuality/homosexual-activist-admits-true-purpose-of-battle-is-to-destroy-marriage/
"I have three kids who have five parents, more or less, and I don’t see why they shouldn’t have five parents legally… I met my new partner, and she had just had a baby, and that baby’s biological father is my brother, and my daughter’s biological father is a man who lives in Russia, and my adopted son also considers him his father. So the five parents break down into two groups of three… And really, I would like to live in a legal system that is capable of reflecting that reality, and I don’t think that’s compatible with the institution of marriage.”
Smh... I wanna beat some sense into this dyke.
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I am one of the Bigot guys on here.
I am one of the bigger bigots on here. :D 8)
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Who cares?
"Bigot" is just a word created by liberals to attack anyone who disagree's with them.
yeah but when laws are being formed to protect the circus freaks and persecute the "normal" it makes me sick, it's just too much.
Like preparing to make pedophilia and bestiality legal... yeah, that's liberalism alright but now they are in concrete full control. What side are you on?
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tom-delay-knows-secret-doj-memo-legalize-12-new-perversions-including-bestiality-and-pedophi
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Who says you can't support traditional marriage? You can attend one. You can have one yourself. Is someone saying you can't?
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Who says you can't support traditional marriage? You can attend one. You can have one yourself. Is someone saying you can't?
My Greek wedding was very traditional. Unfortunately (or fortunately for those in the know) my wife is an Essex Girl, so there has to be some slight amendments, like I wasn't allowed the Mother in Law to sit and feed me almonds and honey until the Bride arrived at the church.
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I don't get it.
Why do gays want to marry? Marriage is a christian tradition, how is it anyone's right to get married? The religious leaders should decide that.
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I don't get it.
Why do gays want to marry? Marriage is a christian tradition, how is it anyone's right to get married? The religious leaders should decide that.
Marriage pre-dates Christianity, its a Pagan tradition.
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Well, if we let the gays marry, then why not polygamy.
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My Greek wedding was very traditional. Unfortunately (or fortunately for those in the know) my wife is an Essex Girl, so there has to be some slight amendments, like I wasn't allowed the Mother in Law to sit and feed me almonds and honey until the Bride arrived at the church.
That's some kinky shit, bro.
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That's some kinky shit, bro.
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I know right? Yet another tradition of the great Motherland that I never got to try :'(
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Christians are already labeled as bigots, deluded, intolerant, weak-minded, needing a daddy figure, believing in fairytales, etc.....this is the same sentiment being ramped up and it will continue to ramp up.
If you're a Christian there should be no surprises here. We're amidst the era of tolerance and virtually everything is deemed tolerable with very few exceptions. The most primary of those exceptions being God. The anti-God sentiment is not super prevalent, but it's slowly building and it will continue to build.
I hear so many pastors and ministers and believers referring to coming revival in the church!! I see the need and I'll pray for it, but I also don't see it coming.
Despite the righteous actions of Christ he was once deemed lawless and worthy of death. Today's believers are slowly being deemed lawless as well. Worthy of death? Time will that vet that out also.
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Breaking news.
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Christians are already labeled as bigots, deluded, intolerant, weak-minded, needing a daddy figure, believing in fairytales, etc.....this is the same sentiment being ramped up and it will continue to ramp up.
If you're a Christian there should be no surprises here. We're amidst the era of tolerance and virtually everything is deemed tolerable with very few exceptions. The most primary of those exceptions being God. The anti-God sentiment is not super prevalent, but it's slowly building and it will continue to build.
I hear so many pastors and ministers and believers referring to coming revival in the church!! I see the need and I'll pray for it, but I also don't see it coming.
Despite the righteous actions of Christ he was once deemed lawless and worthy of death. Today's believers are slowly being deemed lawless as well. Worthy of death? Time will that vet that out also.
I'd like to see the faces of the Anti-Christ's executioners, when they are sent round to MOS's house to 'dispatch' him oh brother. "BACK UP REQUIRED, I REPEAT BACK UP REQUIRED!!!! WE GOT A HUGE MUTHERFUCKIN BIGOT HERE!!!!!!" ;D ;D ;D
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Who says you can't support traditional marriage? You can attend one. You can have one yourself. Is someone saying you can't?
What people of lesser intelligence and limited understanding do not grasp... is that enabling two men, or a man and a horse... or what have you... to redefine what 'marriage' means.... is a literal death blow to the very foundation of civilization.
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Christians are already labeled as bigots, deluded, intolerant, weak-minded, needing a daddy figure, believing in fairytales, etc.....this is the same sentiment being ramped up and it will continue to ramp up.
If you're a Christian there should be no surprises here. We're amidst the era of tolerance and virtually everything is deemed tolerable with very few exceptions. The most primary of those exceptions being God. The anti-God sentiment is not super prevalent, but it's slowly building and it will continue to build.
I hear so many pastors and ministers and believers referring to coming revival in the church!! I see the need and I'll pray for it, but I also don't see it coming.
Despite the righteous actions of Christ he was once deemed lawless and worthy of death. Today's believers are slowly being deemed lawless as well. Worthy of death? Time will that vet that out also.
Drama much?
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Bigot Pride Worldwide
:D
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Christians are already labeled as bigots, deluded, intolerant, weak-minded, needing a daddy figure, believing in fairytales, etc.....this is the same sentiment being ramped up and it will continue to ramp up.
If you're a Christian there should be no surprises here. We're amidst the era of tolerance and virtually everything is deemed tolerable with very few exceptions. The most primary of those exceptions being God. The anti-God sentiment is not super prevalent, but it's slowly building and it will continue to build.
I hear so many pastors and ministers and believers referring to coming revival in the church!! I see the need and I'll pray for it, but I also don't see it coming.
Despite the righteous actions of Christ he was once deemed lawless and worthy of death. Today's believers are slowly being deemed lawless as well. Worthy of death? Time will that vet that out also.
God represents authority and a male figure, father figure . Today's society is anti-authority and anti male.
Look at society now. Everybody wants to do whatever they want to do, with no consequences.
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your thoughts? or do you guys even care :D ??
LETS GO WIGGS! LETS GO!!!
"One of the US supreme court justices who found themselves on the opposite side of Friday’s historic endorsement of same-sex marriage has warned that the ruling will be used to “vilify Americans who are unwilling to assent to the new orthodoxy”, a group he said now faced being “labeled as bigots”.
Gay marriage declared legal across the US in historic supreme court ruling
Justice Samuel Alito said the ruling could leave the country suffering from “bitter and lasting wounds” in a dissenting opinion that veered away from legal argument, and head-first into political and cultural commentary.
“I assume that those who cling to old beliefs will be able to whisper their thoughts in the recesses of their homes, but if they repeat those views in public, they will risk being labeled as bigots and treated as such by governments, employers and schools,” he wrote.
http://theolivebranchreport.com/justice-alito-christians-will-now-be-labeled-as-bigots-by-governments-employers-schools/
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/26/gay-marriage-supreme-court-justices-dissent
And? Of course this was going to happen and it's going to get much worse. it's ok. This was supposed to happen.
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God represents authority and a male figure, father figure . Today's society is anti-authority and anti male.
Look at society now. Everybody wants to do whatever they want to do, with no consequences.
I think every generation has felt that way
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And? Of course this was going to happen and it's going to get much worse. it's ok. This was supposed to happen.
I kinda new you'd say that, hence I'm a believer my self, I know how that shit go. I was wondering what does the regular agnostic/atheist/none believer think about these things because imo no human being can think this is a good thing.
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I kinda new you'd say that, hence I'm a believer my self, I know how that shit go. I was wondering what does the regular agnostic/atheist/none believer think about these things because imo no human being can think this is a good thing.
Education and open mindedness has always been the enemy of religion. No difference here. I thought slavery was wrong in spite of many people thinking it was right. I think gay marriage is fine though many people oppose it. Christians are mad because they've had it their way for so long they forgot there are other people who don't share their personal beliefs. So now they cry about persecution and having to whisper in the halls... guess what.. when I was growing up if you said you were atheist it was a sure fire way to an ass whooping by all the Christian red necks in town. A non believer couldn't own a successful business. Couldn't run for public office.. so lets keep the whining down shall we?
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Who is doing the persecution?
As we all know, 70% of the US consider themselves Christians. So you're saying that the majority of people in this country are persecuting themselves?
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Education and open mindedness has always been the enemy of religion. No difference here. I thought slavery was wrong in spite of many people thinking it was right. I think gay marriage is fine though many people oppose it. Christians are mad because they've had it their way for so long they forgot there are other people who don't share their personal beliefs. So now they cry about persecution and having to whisper in the halls... guess what.. when I was growing up if you said you were atheist it was a sure fire way to an ass whooping by all the Christian red necks in town. A non believer couldn't own a successful business. Couldn't run for public office.. so lets keep the whining down shall we?
lets keep an open mind shall we ::)
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/07/07/cambridge-conference-paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males/
"An academic conference at the University of Cambridge last July was told that paedophilic interest is “natural and normal for males”, and that “at least a sizeable minority of normal males would like to have sex with children… Normal males are aroused by children.”
Lets not forget that schools offer IUDs to 11-year-old girls without parental consent. In most countries that would be highly illegal, but your gay ass government thinks it's just fine.
keep an open mind yourself, and whoever disguises dictatorship or persecution in the name of religion is never a christian. Religion and believing in god to me are completely differend. If you are registered in church it doesn't mean you are a christian or a believer. But that's not the point. Care to validate of the psycho shit news topics I posted? Or do you just love to take a bath in shit as well and they on't bother you?
Who is doing the persecution?
As we all know, 70% of the US consider themselves Christians. So you're saying that the majority of people in this country are persecuting themselves?
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That's the dumbest shit I've ever read. Gluing feathers on your ass don't make you a chicken.
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lets keep an open mind shall we ::)
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/07/07/cambridge-conference-paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males/
"An academic conference at the University of Cambridge last July was told that paedophilic interest is “natural and normal for males”, and that “at least a sizeable minority of normal males would like to have sex with children… Normal males are aroused by children.”
Lets not forget that schools offer IUDs to 11-year-old girls without parental consent. In most countries that would be highly illegal, but your gay ass government thinks it's just fine.
keep an open mind yourself.
That's the dumbest shit I've ever read. Gluing feathers on your ass don't make you a chicken.
I worry about your research skills. You read a headline and believed schools are offering 11 yr old IUD's without checking it out...
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http://www.care2.com/causes/iuds-for-11-year-olds-heres-the-truth-about-washingtons-sexual-health-program.html
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I worry about your research skills. You read a headline and believed schools are offering 11 yr old IUD's without checking it out...
oh you think it's ok. Ok then. Your opinion is heard, thx, k, bye.
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I think every generation has felt that way
Nahh, not really. This really started with the Baby Boomers, and they taught their kids this. Selfishness breeds more selfishness.
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when I was growing up if you said you were atheist it was a sure fire way to an ass whooping by all the Christian red necks in town. A non believer couldn't own a successful business.
I've seen versions of this scenario posed before by atheists repeatedly.
Ok, so I'm from South Texas...born and raised....arguably the redneck capital of the South. All of my family is from Texas (all over it). I've lived in big cities and smaller towns and my wife is from a very small town in South Texas. I have family in huge cities and in small towns of less than 100 people. Neither myself, my wife, nor our families have ever witnessed the beating up of atheists by rednecks and I have rednecks a plenty on both sides of our family. Heck my wife's family owned a rodeo and were farmesr, ranch hands, truck drivers, etc.... My family is also full of farmers and ranchers and I've never seen or heard of small business owners being denied the ability to open a business because they were atheists. Neither have I seen businesses fail because they were owned by atheists.
"You know, that place has wonderful fried chicken, but Billy Bob the owner is an atheist so let's boycott that delicious chicken and beat his a$$!!"
Look, I'm not saying it hasn't ever happened, I'm just saying I've never seen it or heard of it. I simply question the prevalence of this claim.
Now atheists running for public office is tough because they're going to alienate the majority of voters without saying a word....that isn't persecution LOL.
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Nahh, not really. This really started with the Baby Boomers, and they taught their kids this. Selfishness breeds more selfishness.
If you don't think the young adults of the 60's didn't bring out the "World is going to hell in a handbasket" mantra from the older folks I think you're a victim of selective memory
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I've seen versions of this scenario posed before by atheists repeatedly.
Ok, so I'm from South Texas...born and raised....arguably the redneck capital of the South. All of my family is from Texas (all over it). I've lived in big cities and smaller towns and my wife is from a very small town in South Texas. I have family in huge cities and in small towns of less than 100 people. Neither myself, my wife, nor our families have ever witnessed the beating up of atheists by rednecks and I have rednecks a plenty on both sides of our family. Heck my wife's family owned a rodeo and were farmesr, ranch hands, truck drivers, etc.... My family is also full of farmers and ranchers and I've never seen or heard of small business owners being denied the ability to open a business because they were atheists. Neither have I seen businesses fail because they were owned by atheists.
"You know, that place has wonderful fried chicken, but Billy Bob the owner is an atheist so let's boycott that delicious chicken and beat his a$$!!"
Look, I'm not saying it hasn't ever happened, I'm just saying I've never seen it or heard of it. I simply question the prevalence of this claim.
Now atheists running for public office is tough because they're going to alienate the majority of voters without saying a word....that isn't persecution LOL.
Funny, you are staring at the answer and you don't see it.. I grew up in SW Okla/North Texas.. there reason you didn't see it my friend, is no one would every admit they weren't Christian. Atheist were deemed devil worshippers.. Think about it.. and be honest with yourself..how many people do you recall growing up.. who publicly admitted they didn't believe in god?
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I've seen versions of this scenario posed before by atheists repeatedly.
Ok, so I'm from South Texas...born and raised....arguably the redneck capital of the South. All of my family is from Texas (all over it). I've lived in big cities and smaller towns and my wife is from a very small town in South Texas. I have family in huge cities and in small towns of less than 100 people. Neither myself, my wife, nor our families have ever witnessed the beating up of atheists by rednecks and I have rednecks a plenty on both sides of our family. Heck my wife's family owned a rodeo and were farmesr, ranch hands, truck drivers, etc.... My family is also full of farmers and ranchers and I've never seen or heard of small business owners being denied the ability to open a business because they were atheists. Neither have I seen businesses fail because they were owned by atheists.
"You know, that place has wonderful fried chicken, but Billy Bob the owner is an atheist so let's boycott that delicious chicken and beat his a$$!!"
Look, I'm not saying it hasn't ever happened, I'm just saying I've never seen it or heard of it. I simply question the prevalence of this claim.
Now atheists running for public office is tough because they're going to alienate the majority of voters without saying a word....that isn't persecution LOL.
"Now atheists running for public office is tough because they're going to alienate the majority of voters without saying a word....that isn't persecution "
It is when it's in the state constitution that in order to hold office you must believe in a higher power.......
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Funny, you are staring at the answer and you don't see it.. I grew up in SW Okla/North Texas.. there reason you didn't see it my friend, is no one would every admit they weren't Christian. Atheist were deemed devil worshippers.. Think about it.. and be honest with yourself..how many people do you recall growing up.. who publicly admitted they didn't believe in god?
None of that matters! The original question was, don't you care that kindergardeners are getting sex education without parents right to say anything about it? Don't you think it's wrong that government is actually saying in their own way that heterosexual activity can be considered bigotry? Don't you think that it's weird how 11 year old girls are told about personal birth control?
Come on bruh! It's SICK! Admit it! Totally wrong. Do you think it's right, now that atheists and satanists are getting their revenge on christians who by the way never really were true christians, just evil people disguised in religion to confuse people. Remember that christians who opposed church's tyranny back in the day were killed. So there have been actual christians opposing the falsehood of the church.
Nothing to do with christianity per se. Yeah I get it. Evil men disguised in religious rags and a cross have done evil shit, but I don't consider that christianity, i consider it abomination and wrong. But lets keep in the topic.
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If you don't think the young adults of the 60's didn't bring out the "World is going to hell in a handbasket" mantra from the older folks I think you're a victim of selective memory
Nope. The majority of all this began with the Baby Boomers.
All gens have had a some "fight the power", but it was the 60s cats that decided to eff everything up. That is why you have a job now. Their effed up parenting---lack of consequences for actions, lack of discipline, has helped to create selfish, sometimes drugged up, enabled, over privileged, kids who because they had no authority figures in their lives and figure that there are no consequences for their actions, now give cause and justification for your job.
Dysfunction is a job maker.
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None of that matters! The original question was, don't you care that kindergardeners are getting sex education without parents right to say anything about it? Don't you think it's wrong that government is actually saying in their own way that heterosexual activity can be considered bigotry? Don't you think that it's weird how 11 year old girls are told about personal birth control?
Come on bruh! It's SICK! Admit it! Totally wrong. Do you think it's right, now that atheists and satanists are getting their revenge on christians who by the way never really were true christians, just evil people disguised in religion to confuse people. Remember that christians who opposed church's tyranny back in the day were killed. So there have been actual christians opposing the falsehood of the church.
Nothing to do with christianity per se. Yeah I get it. Evil men disguised in religious rags and a cross have done evil shit, but I don't consider that christianity, i consider it abomination and wrong. But lets keep in the topic.
You're questions are loaded questions. "How often do you beat your wife" type questions. I don't agree the government is saying that heterosexual activity can be considered bigotry. That's ludicrous
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You're questions are loaded questions. "How often do you beat your wife" type questions. I don't agree the government is saying that heterosexual activity can be considered bigotry. That's ludicrous
Ok you refuse to answer those questions, that's cool.
Well what about your take on the Oklahoma's baphomet statue that replaces the 10 commandments from the bible, I believe it was in front some justice building or something..? Well anyway, don't you think that's weird? Maybe even wrong? No?
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There is no actual evidence that sixth graders are taking the clinics up on these sneaky IUDs, but even if that were occurring, there isn’t necessarily anything wrong with it. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists released a statement in 2012 calling IUDs “top-tier contraceptives” and approved them for teen use, and longterm studies are repeatedly showing that early insertion of the intrauterine devices has had a massive effect on decreasing the rate of unintended teen pregnancies.
“Over the past six years, Colorado has conducted one of the largest ever real-life experiments with long-acting birth control,” the New York Times recently reported. “If teenagers and poor women were offered free intrauterine devices and implants that prevent pregnancy for years, state officials asked, would those women choose them? They did in a big way, and the results were startling. The birthrate for teenagers across the state plunged 40 percent from 2009 to 2013, while their rate of abortions fell 42 percent, according to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment.”
Thinking about children – especially our own children – having sex is often an uncomfortable thing for many. But there inevitably comes a point in the life of every parent of a young girl when he or she realizes that someday, at some point in the future, that daughter will likely become sexually active. Of course we all hope that it will be years down the road, preferably in a stable committed adult relationship. Mostly, though we hope that when it happens that our daughters are ready physically and emotionally and, if they don’t want to get pregnant, that they use contraception.
We also hope that when our children become sexually active, they will talk to us about it. Unfortunately, not every daughter will. It’s for that reason that is it so important that a minor can get access to birth control and other sexual health care without a parent’s notification, a process that can stop unplanned pregnancies and illnesses due to untreated sexually transmitted infections, and that she obtain early prenatal care if a pregnancy does happen and she wants to continue it, or an abortion if she does not."
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Ok you refuse to answer those questions, that's cool.
Well what about your take on the Oklahoma's baphomet statue that replaces the 10 commandments from the bible, I believe it was in front some justice building or something..? Well anyway, don't you think that's weird? Maybe even wrong? No?
Link?
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Link?
And here's an article about a girl forced into a lesbian kiss during an "anti bullying act" infront of her whole class and she didn't like it one bit, her parents are furious about it.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/parents-upset-after-middle-school-girls-forced-into-lesbian-kiss-at-ny-school-94523/
you have a weird open mind... maybe your mind is like a tunnel, you just don't care. But even that's cool. I start to understand how you think you just don't care for real. The news is apparently deleted from youtube, how ironic.
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Funny, you are staring at the answer and you don't see it.. I grew up in SW Okla/North Texas.. there reason you didn't see it my friend, is no one would every admit they weren't Christian. Atheist were deemed devil worshippers.. Think about it.. and be honest with yourself..how many people do you recall growing up.. who publicly admitted they didn't believe in god?
Well actually I assumed you'd mention that....no offense. The gentle atheists of Texas were in hiding from the torch wielding mob of violent rednecks! YEE-HAW!!! ;)
Is it true that some folks identify atheists with Satan worshippers? Yes it is. ;D That's just's ignorance.
I can only recall one couple in my neighborhood that my parents mentioned were atheists and as a kid I had no idea what an atheist was...I had to ask. My Mom didn't even really know. It was my Dad that explained it in simple terms. I do know that the majority of my friends and their families never attended any church or religious function.....they were definitely nonbelievers, but didn't identify as atheists...that was the bulk of my friends. Those that did attend church were all Catholics.
My childhood Christian influences were about adults trying to spread the good news of Christ as best they were able....most weren't very good at it LOL.
To be honest, the limited hate I saw was about racism.....that came from all types in and out of my family....believer and nonbeliever alike. Disgusting really.
Pretty easy to bring together some old atheists and theists to collectively hate on some brown people.
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Education and open mindedness has always been the enemy of religion. No difference here. I thought slavery was wrong in spite of many people thinking it was right. I think gay marriage is fine though many people oppose it. Christians are mad because they've had it their way for so long they forgot there are other people who don't share their personal beliefs. So now they cry about persecution and having to whisper in the halls... guess what.. when I was growing up if you said you were atheist it was a sure fire way to an ass whooping by all the Christian red necks in town. A non believer couldn't own a successful business. Couldn't run for public office.. so lets keep the whining down shall we?
Still can't, not major office.
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"Now atheists running for public office is tough because they're going to alienate the majority of voters without saying a word....that isn't persecution "
It is when it's in the state constitution that in order to hold office you must believe in a higher power.......
Honestly, I wasn't aware of that. Hasn't been something I've needed to look into before either. I'm not a super political person.....I learn enough to make an informed decision.
For me, I think the best person should be allowed to run for office. Personally I would prefer a qualified theist running for office, but that's me. I don't think an atheist candidate if elected would be dishonest or anything like that. Just doesn't fully represent me or my family as voters, but even some theist candidates don't either.
Still, I wouldn't pass on a master plumber who was also an atheist who could successfully fix my water heater leak for a lesser plumber with less expereince who was a theist.
At first blush I think those state requirements should change because if a candidate runs with a platform of atheism they're most likely guaranteed a loss anyways LOL....the requirement is almost unnecessary in that regard.
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lets keep an open mind shall we ::)
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/07/07/cambridge-conference-paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males/
"An academic conference at the University of Cambridge last July was told that paedophilic interest is “natural and normal for males”, and that “at least a sizeable minority of normal males would like to have sex with children… Normal males are aroused by children.”
Lets not forget that schools offer IUDs to 11-year-old girls without parental consent. In most countries that would be highly illegal, but your gay ass government thinks it's just fine.
keep an open mind yourself, and whoever disguises dictatorship or persecution in the name of religion is never a christian. Religion and believing in god to me are completely differend. If you are registered in church it doesn't mean you are a christian or a believer.
Not when you follow it up with "Christian," they aren't. Unless God revealed the Word to you Himself, you learned it from the Bible, which is the cornerstone of Christianity - A RELIGION. And even if He did, once you choose to follow His guidelines, you're practicing Christianity - A RELIGION, whether you like it or not.
People say this shit all time, and it's absolutely meaningless. Semantical bullshit is all.
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I don't get it.
Why do gays want to marry? Marriage is a christian tradition, how is it anyone's right to get married? The religious leaders should decide that.
Was unaware Mormons didn't participate in marriage. How about Scientologists?
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Not when you follow it up with "Christian," they aren't. Unless God revealed the Word to you Himself, you learned it from the Bible, which is the cornerstone of Christianity - A RELIGION. And even if He did, once you choose to follow His guidelines, you're practicing Christianity - A RELIGION, whether you like it or not.
People say this shit all time, and it's absolutely meaningless. Semantical bullshit is all.
Yes Christianity is a religion, but the word religion today is a catch-all for all sorts religions, denominations, individuals, schools of thought, behaviors, events, theologies, courses, etc.........in some circles "religion" is almost a curse word today.
"Religion" is Westboro Baptist church, the crusades, the witch trials, the molestation of children by Catholic priests, Adolph Hitler, ISIS, scientology, Wicca, Satanism, Santaria, greek mythology, anti-tolerance, anti-knowledge, anti-homosexual, anti-science, anti-reality, flying spaghetti monsters, magic, Harry Potter, sky daddies, fairies and unicorns and all other sorts of evil and negative connotations people can think of. The term "religion" has completely changed into something else.....it's a catch-all of negativity.
I often say I represent Jesus Christ and I'm a Christian, but I don't like all organized religion. Although in classic terminology Christianity is a religion, but I accept none of the modern baggage that comes with "religion". Notice today when I post and use the word "religion" I often put it in quotes as it implies way more than the belief in and worship of God.
Today's "religion" has forced upon it a ton of negativity and the evil of men. Look at Getbig for example. Most boards are either entitled "MMA", "Sports Discussions", "Conspiracy Theories", "General Topics" and "Gossip and Opinions", but the religion board is different. It's entitled "Religious Debates & Threads". The title itself immediately implies disunity with the word debate as that suggests you're walking into a negative argument. The closest parallel is the "Politics and Political Issues" board, but even here it's different and the implication is far less subdued. That's the power of the "religion". Add it to almost any thread title and your thread views will most definitely increase.
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Not when you follow it up with "Christian," they aren't. Unless God revealed the Word to you Himself, you learned it from the Bible, which is the cornerstone of Christianity - A RELIGION. And even if He did, once you choose to follow His guidelines, you're practicing Christianity - A RELIGION, whether you like it or not.
People say this shit all time, and it's absolutely meaningless. Semantical bullshit is all.
Ahhh, come ON! I don't understand half of what the bible says. But it's not about the literal context of the book, there are principles, guide lines... you know..? Most of the guidelines I break almost everyday but I admit it and I don't use prayers as a forgiveness atm every time I do something. I don't practise christianity at all, I don't pray, I don't go to church, i don't even belong in the church because the church is corrupt and i don't trust these people in there, they may not even have true faith, they just have their theologist/priest degrees. But I believe in jesus christ I can't help it. I never preach about it, I never have the need to talk about it unless someone asks do i believe.
I don't believe in forcing people to do something, not religious dictators or atheist dictators, nothing. I'm the guy who opens doors to people of all kind and say thank you, have a nice day, if i train outside and a girl jogs pass me I tell her that damn you look good! I don't consider a homeless street bum any differend from me, or a drug addict... pretty much anyone who does things for selfish reasons because I'm selfish my self. I love eating pussy and I can't stand children and i support free abortions. I oppose war as a job maker.
Still, the faith is in my bone marrow. i asked my grandmother who's a true christian that am I a christian even tho I don't follow the book to the point, but I do believe in jesus and that only through jesus my soul can be saved? She said of course I'm a christian. But i don't consider myself a christian.
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Yes Christianity is a religion, but the word religion today is a catch-all for all sorts religions, denominations, individuals, schools of thought, behaviors, events, theologies, courses, etc.........in some circles "religion" is almost a curse word today.
"Religion" is Westboro Baptist church, the crusades, the witch trials, the molestation of children by Catholic priests, Adolph Hitler, ISIS, scientology, Wicca, Satanism, Santaria, greek mythology, anti-tolerance, anti-knowledge, anti-homosexual, anti-science, anti-reality, flying spaghetti monsters, sky daddies and all others sorts of evil and negative connotations people can think of. The term religion has completely changed into something else.....it's a catch-all.
I often say I represent Jesus Christ and I'm a Christian, but I don't like all organized religion. Although in classic terminology Christianity is a religion, but I accept none of the modern baggage that comes with "religion". Notice today when I post and use the word "religion" I often put it in quotes as it implies way more than the belief in and worship of God.
But everybody says this now.
Seems to me, if you're following someone else's program, and others are involved, technically you got yourself some religion.
Even if you just make up your own shit, once it has any system to it, and/or adherents, meets the term's criteria once again. Believers just don't like the word anymore, but that's just denial.
Like progressives not wanting to be called liberals, because the word got stigmatized - pussies or whatever. Sorry, still same thing.
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Ahhh, come ON! I don't understand half of what the bible says. But it's not about the literal context of the book, there are principles, guide lines... you know..? Most of the guidelines I break almost everyday but I admit it and I don't use prayers as a forgiveness atm every time I do something. I don't practise christianity at all, I don't pray, I don't go to church, i don't even belong in the church because the church is corrupt and i don't trust these people in there, they may not even have true faith, they just have their theologist/priest degrees. But I believe in jesus christ I can't help it. I never preach about it, I never have the need to talk about it unless someone asks do i believe.
I don't believe in forcing people to do something, not religious dictators or atheist dictators, nothing. I'm the guy who opens doors to people of all kind and say thank you, have a nice day, if i train outside and a girl jogs pass me I tell her that damn you look good! I don't consider a homeless street bum any differend from me, or a drug addict... pretty much anyone who does things for selfish reasons because I'm selfish my self. I love eating pussy and I can't stand children and i support free abortions. I oppose war as a job maker.
Still, the faith is in my bone marrow. i asked my grandmother who's a true christian that am I a christian even tho I don't follow the book to the point, but I do believe in jesus and that only through jesus my soul can be saved? She said of course I'm a christian. But i don't consider myself a christian.
This is just lots of text telling us you don't like a word. I get it, but ultimately it's just semantics.
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And here's an article about a girl forced into a lesbian kiss during an "anti bullying act" infront of her whole class and she didn't like it one bit, her parents are furious about it.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/parents-upset-after-middle-school-girls-forced-into-lesbian-kiss-at-ny-school-94523/
you have a weird open mind... maybe your mind is like a tunnel, you just don't care. But even that's cool. I start to understand how you think you just don't care for real. The news is apparently deleted from youtube, how ironic.
The atheist monument is not to replace the 10 commandments it was designed to co-exist with them. The origin of the idea was that Oklahoma lawmakers refused to remove the 10 commandments from public property (The Ok Supreme Court has since ruled it has to be removed). So they were going to protest this violation of separation of church and state by placing their own "religious" monument there as well. My opinion is it has just as much right there. You threw me off when you said it would replace the 10 commandments
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Ahhh, come ON! I don't understand half of what the bible says. But it's not about the literal context of the book, there are principles, guide lines... you know..? Most of the guidelines I break almost everyday but I admit it and I don't use prayers as a forgiveness atm every time I do something. I don't practise christianity at all, I don't pray, I don't go to church, i don't even belong in the church because the church is corrupt and i don't trust these people in there, they may not even have true faith, they just have their theologist/priest degrees. But I believe in jesus christ I can't help it. I never preach about it, I never have the need to talk about it unless someone asks do i believe.
I don't believe in forcing people to do something, not religious dictators or atheist dictators, nothing. I'm the guy who opens doors to people of all kind and say thank you, have a nice day, if i train outside and a girl jogs pass me I tell her that damn you look good! I don't consider a homeless street bum any differend from me, or a drug addict... pretty much anyone who does things for selfish reasons because I'm selfish my self. I love eating pussy and I can't stand children and i support free abortions. I oppose war as a job maker.
Still, the faith is in my bone marrow. i asked my grandmother who's a true christian that am I a christian even tho I don't follow the book to the point, but I do believe in jesus and that only through jesus my soul can be saved? She said of course I'm a christian. But i don't consider myself a christian.
Then what are you whining about? You were brainwashed into being a Christian when you were young and you have a problem with a society that doesn't have the same low standards. There's nothing wrong with the government moving away from arbitrary Christian principles.
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http://www.datesafeproject.org/misrepresentation-forced-lesbian-kiss-news-story-red-hook/
The Misrepresentation of the “Forced Lesbian Kiss” News Story from Red Hook, NY
Red Hook SchoolsHere at the DATE SAFE Project, teaching "Asking First" and respecting boundaries is one of our main missions. While the Peer Educators who recently taught an "Asking First" scene to middle school students in Red Hook, NY were not affiliated with nor licensed by The DATE SAFE Project, we want to fully discuss what has happened with this news story.
Recently, several media outlets published a story referring to a "Forced Lesbian Kiss" in a middle school classroom in Red Hook, NY. The news coverage implied students in the classroom were forced to ask each other for a "lesbian kiss" (that is the wording cited in the news stories). The classroom discussion was lead by Peer Educators from nearby Bard College.
Soon, we heard that our organization was being referenced as a source of the material the school relied on for this classroom session. People were asking us, "Are you aware someone is inappropriately referencing the 'Asking First' scene from The DATE SAFE Project's Curriculum in the classroom?" We began doing research by directly talking with both educational institutions involved: Bard College and Dr. Katie Zahedi, the Principal at the middle school in Red Hook, NY.
We began by asking the following questions:
1.What lessons were being taught in the classroom?
2.Is the school stating that the Peer Educators were licensed by The DATE SAFE Project or that our specific curriculum was being used? Yes, we were checking to see how we were being referenced.
Dr. Zahedi made it clear from the start of our conversation that the news reports were very different from what actually occurred in the classroom. Both her and the school district's Superintendent, Paul Finch, replied to the original reporter who published the story referring to a "lesbian kiss" being taught. Almost all of the information Dr. Zahedi and the Superintendent Finch provided the reporter was left OUT of the story the reporter published. To be transparent, the website for Red Hook School System has posted the letter Superintendent Finch sent the reporter. The letter clearly states:
"These sessions were designed by the building leadership in an effort to have eighth graders treat each other with respect and to develop in our young adolescents an appreciation for personal dignity. To suggest that we would condone or promote sexual activity among teenagers is absurd. It is equally absurd to suggest that an activity, designed to have young women feel more confident saying no to unwanted advances from boys, is in some way promoting a lesbian lifestyle. It is my understanding that the role playing activity is part of a program supported by conservatives such as Laura Bush."
The Poughkeepsie Journal reports superintendent of Red Hook Central School District Paul Finch saying workshops like these are required under New York’s Dignity for All Students Act, which states that instruction in “civility, citizenship and character” would include “concepts of tolerance, respect for others and dignity.” Topics for this would include race, nationality, religion, weight, sexual orientation and gender identity, among others. (**This paragraph is from an article posted here).
In addition, on the Red Hook School System's website, the school system shared the discussion in the classroom was focused on:
Cultural stereotypes related to gender and gender identity, positive strategies for conflict resolution, and issues related to personal consent in relationships. All of these topics support our efforts to create a school environment that is free from discrimination, harassment, and bullying.
None of this information was included in the initial story posted online referring to students and a "lesbian kiss."
In my conversation with Dr. Zahedi, she shared that language used in the news reporting was erroneous. The Peer Educators from Bard College did NOT reference a "Lesbian Kiss." The Peer Educators did NOT teach the boys "How to Spot a Slut" as stated in online news outlets.
What actually happened? When the males and females were separated, the peer educators talked to the female students about always having the right to say, "No" to intimacy. You deserve to always have a choice and be asked first (hopefully a point every parent agrees with). At that point, the peer educators did a quick role-play with the classroom addressing "Asking for a Kiss." Never did the educators refer to that moment as a "lesbian kiss." The phrase "Lesbian Kiss" was language used by either the reporter and/or the family who reported this as a story to Fox News - NOT as part of the classroom discussion.
In the session with the boys, the conversation included how harmful such words as "slut" can be and the importance of not "slut shaming." If you work in the field of reducing sexual violence, you know how frequently people in our society use "Slut Shaming" to inappropriately blame survivors of sexual assault.
"Asking First" and The DATE SAFE Project
You may be wondering, "Mike, the role-playing scene does sound somewhat based on what you teach in the 'Can I Kiss You?' School Assemblies?" Bard College shared with us that the two Peer Educators who lead the classroom session did previously attend a "Can I Kiss You?" live presentation facilitated by me at SUNY-New Paltz. In each "Can I Kiss You?" Show, I teach the importance of "Asking First" before anyone ever touches another person sexually or intimately. The representative from Bard College shared that the students did want to share some of the same messages with the local students.
We, the DATE SAFE Project, are HONORED to know the two Bard College students were inspired by our "Can I Kiss You?" Show and wanted to spread those same lessons with middle school students in their local community. You have two caring college students working hard to help our youth have a greater respect for themselves, their peers, and each other boundaries. Awesome! The students never said they were affiliated with us and thus did not misrepresent themselves at any time.
Dr. Zahedi has apologized to us for a reference she made in an online article about the students attending a training conducted by The DATE SAFE Project. She is aware the "Can I Kiss You?" Show at SUNY-New Paltz that the Bard students attended is not the formal training we provide for individuals to present the "Can I Kiss You?" program in their local schools.
Does the DATE SAFE Project provide formal training opportunities for people to become licensed to present the program in their local middle schools and high schools? Yes. The training includes many nuances which can dramatically impact how people react to specific situations in a role-play. Bard College did inquiry into how a student can become a Licensed Presenter of the K12 "Can I Kiss You?" Program for future work in local schools (requires attending 2-Day Training).
As to the Superintendent Finch's comment about the role-play scene from the classroom based on a program supported by conservatives, we do believe he was referring to the "Can I Kiss You?" version of the "Asking First" role-play scene (based on conversations we had Dr. Zahedi). The "Can I Kiss You?" program is brought into schools of all political and religious belief systems - ranging from more liberal communities to very strict faith-based institutions. For instance, we teach the respect of boundaries to middle school students in the Milwaukee, WI Catholic Archdiocese. We believe Superintendent Finch's reference specific to Laura Bush is referring to a letter we received from Laura Bush many years ago thanking me for our work.
I want to personally thank Bard College and Dr. Zahedi for taking the time to talk with me earlier today. Dr. Zahedi stated she would like to find a way to bring me to her school in the future to present the "Can I Kiss You?" program to their students. Every day we get the opportunity to share "How-To" skills for treating each other with respect we are thrilled to so!!
THE GOOD THAT HAPPENED
Are mistakes going to happen the first time an educational program is presented? Yes. The key is the educators and administrators work together to make the program as effective and appropriate as possible for the future. Dr. Zahedi has assured us everyone is committed to that same goal.
Caring educators, administrators, and local college peer educators in Red Hook, NY worked together to bring their students a program to help teach respect of their peers, themselves, and their boundaries. Every middle school student deserves to be TAUGHT that he/she always has the RIGHT to be given a choice BEFORE anyone touches him/her sexually. This is a LEGAL RIGHT and thus it is a school's responsibility to teach such legal rights (just as they teach the legal age of driving, drinking, etc...).
Parents, please ask yourself, "Is my school teaching my middle school and high school students that they ALWAYS should be given a choice before anyone touches them sexually or intimately? Are they teaching my child that he/she should be asked first before anything happens?" Common sense tells you that if more students were "Asking First," a lot less sexual activity would be occurring because most students are not ready to talk openly, honestly, and fully respect each other's boundaries
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The atheist monument is not to replace the 10 commandments it was designed to co-exist with them. The origin of the idea was that Oklahoma lawmakers refused to remove the 10 commandments from public property (The Ok Supreme Court has since ruled it has to be removed). So they were going to protest this violation of separation of church and state by placing their own "religious" monument there as well. My opinion is it has just as much right there. You threw me off when you said it would replace the 10 commandments
Right, forgot that, but still. Well, if a person thinks that a statue of satan, the prince of lies and destruction is all good we have nothing to talk about here :D
You don't care, you don't mind, so I'm not going to question that anymore.
Then what are you whining about? You were brainwashed into being a Christian when you were young and you have a problem with a society that doesn't have the same low standards. There's nothing wrong with the government moving away from arbitrary Christian principles.
i was raised christian, was few years completely anti christian... then I found my self back believing again. Hardly brainwashed since I acknowledge all angels of the world, but to ban personal beliefs by law is unnecessary to me. You may think it's good that the world will be made anti religion, or more like anti god. But I respect your opinion.
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And here's an article about a girl forced into a lesbian kiss during an "anti bullying act" infront of her whole class and she didn't like it one bit, her parents are furious about it.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/parents-upset-after-middle-school-girls-forced-into-lesbian-kiss-at-ny-school-94523/
you have a weird open mind... maybe your mind is like a tunnel, you just don't care. But even that's cool. I start to understand how you think you just don't care for real. The news is apparently deleted from youtube, how ironic.
I take the time to research the information.. probably explains why we don't agree much.. :)
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Right, forgot that, but still. Well, if a person thinks that a statue of satan, the prince of lies and destruction is all good we have nothing to talk about here :D
You don't care, you don't mind, so I'm not going to question that anymore.
i was raised christian, was few years completely anti christian... then I found my self back believing again. Hardly brainwashed since I acknowledge all angels of the world, but to ban personal beliefs by law is unnecessary to me. You may think it's good that the world will be made anti religion, or more like anti god. But I respect your opinion.
The point is.. whether you agree or not, Government can't favor one religion over another. They do all the time, but they aren't supposed to. So people call them on it on a regular basis. This is one of the ways they do it. See, some people are too hard headed to understand written rulings and words, but a statue of a demon gets their attention. So when they are forced to allow ANYONES religious artifacts on public property not just THEIR own.. they tend to get the point. As you know, Christians are all about freedom of religion, as long as you're talking about Christianity
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And here's an article about a girl forced into a lesbian kiss during an "anti bullying act" infront of her whole class and she didn't like it one bit, her parents are furious about it.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/parents-upset-after-middle-school-girls-forced-into-lesbian-kiss-at-ny-school-94523/
you have a weird open mind... maybe your mind is like a tunnel, you just don't care. But even that's cool. I start to understand how you think you just don't care for real. The news is apparently deleted from youtube, how ironic.
Every example you've posted in this thread has been wrong and misleading. Even if you truly believed them, the quickest google search could have cleared up any confusion you had.
You're just too caught up in whining to get perspective on how things actually are.
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Every example you've posted in this thread has been wrong and misleading. Even if you truly believed them, the quickest google search could have cleared up any confusion you had.
You're just too caught up in whining to get perspective on how things actually are.
well said
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I take the time to research the information.. probably explains why we don't agree much.. :)
relax champ, I still think you're completely lost with your concept of what's acceptable and what's completely off limits but this shit is already boring to me. We can agree to disagree :D
Every example you've posted in this thread has been wrong and misleading. Even if you truly believed them, the quickest google search could have cleared up any confusion you had.
You're just too caught up in whining to get perspective on how things actually are.
hmmm, now that I think about it. Pedophilia and bestility should be legal, I'm just too crazy to think it's nasty and wrong, I'm brainwashed. Anything is ok, and everything is acceptable. lulz
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hmmm, now that I think about it. Pedophilia and bestility should be legal, I'm just too crazy to think it's nasty and wrong, I'm brainwashed. Anything is ok, and everything is acceptable. lulz
You're entitled to your opinions, but you started a publicly viewable thread about them and these are all made-up arguments that you are having with yourself.
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This is what baffles me some about America: Thomas Paine.
One could argue, his ideas in Common Sense were single-handedly responsible for igniting the Revolutionary War. That's how much his words meant.
About twenty years later he wrote The Age of Reason, which completely undermined the Bible and Christianity. He made the case for deism, which was arguably the atheism of its time; just hadn't yet discovered the science to help explain our origins.
So why didn't that book have an equal impact on American minds? Did he wait too long? Was independence a more desirable, easier to sell concept than reason/rationalism?
Why, instead of Christians, weren't we mostly deists/rationalists (ultimately atheists) early on is what I'm asking?
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This is what baffles me some about America: Thomas Paine.
One could argue, his ideas in Common Sense were single-handedly responsible for igniting the Revolutionary War. That's how much his words meant.
About twenty years later he writes The Age of Reason, which completely undermined the Bible and Christianity. He made the case for deism, which is arguably similar to a modern atheist. Just hadn't yet discovered the science to help explain our origins.
So why didn't that book have an equal impact on American minds? Did he wait too long? Was independence a more desirable, easier to sell concept than reason/rationalism?
Why, instead of Christians, weren't we mostly deists/rationalists (ultimately atheists) early on is what I'm asking?
Probably too deep for me to answer but that never stopped me before..
Christianity is a bear to overcome not unlike Islam to the Muslims. When you have families training their children from the time they can talk that the bible is the word of god, force them to go to Sunday school and later church to be indoctrinated.. when all their family and friends support the belief system and dissention is not allowed even to the point reading books contradicting the bible is all but forbidden, it takes generations upon generations to eradicate the belief. We see a decline in Christianity over the last 40 years and will continue to see a decline as new generations are introduced to critical thinking and can start on a level playing field without having to overcome years of brainwashing.
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You're entitled to your opinions, but you started a publicly viewable thread about them and these are all made-up arguments that you are having with yourself.
yeah I wanted to hear getbiggers opinions on "christians and traditional marriage supporters labeled as bigots" news but agnostic turned it into something else. People agreed with me more in the child abuse thread a.k.a iud's for 11 year old girls without their parents consent thread, but i knew that when religion is mentioned, most people dislike since most people don't care at all about religion or god topics.
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Probably too deep for me to answer but that never stopped me before..
Christianity is a bear to overcome not unlike Islam to the Muslims. When you have families training their children from the time they can talk that the bible is the word of god, force them to go to Sunday school and later church to be indoctrinated.. when all their family and friends support the belief system and dissention is not allowed even to the point reading books contradicting the bible is all but forbidden, it takes generations upon generations to eradicate the belief. We see a decline in Christianity over the last 40 years and will continue to see a decline as new generations are introduced to critical thinking and can start on a level playing field without having to overcome years of brainwashing.
so brainwashing children to be lesbos, homos, transsexuals whatever else is better? How about letting children choose what cultural/traditional practises they want to take part in without deceiving or missleading them in any way, huh? How about teaching children biology, math, chemistry, languages, philosophy etc etc. Christian religion and other religions and practises should be optional, not banned, and teachers shouldn't force kids to do NOTHING without their parents consent. Parents > teachers
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What people of lesser intelligence and limited understanding do not grasp... is that enabling two men, or a man and a horse... or what have you... to redefine what 'marriage' means.... is a literal death blow to the very foundation of civilization.
The foundation of civilization?! Wow, 'cuz I didn't know that until now.
You don't have to be delicate with me. It's true that I'm a simple minded guy. I just let people who aren't hurting anyone do what they want. Am I be making hurt like this?
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I don't get it.
Why do gays want to marry? Marriage is a christian tradition, how is it anyone's right to get married? The religious leaders should decide that.
I find it odd that Gays and atheists want to get married.
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Probably too deep for me to answer but that never stopped me before..
Christianity is a bear to overcome not unlike Islam to the Muslims. When you have families training their children from the time they can talk that the bible is the word of god, force them to go to Sunday school and later church to be indoctrinated.. when all their family and friends support the belief system and dissention is not allowed even to the point reading books contradicting the bible is all but forbidden, it takes generations upon generations to eradicate the belief. We see a decline in Christianity over the last 40 years and will continue to see a decline as new generations are introduced to critical thinking and can start on a level playing field without having to overcome years of brainwashing.
I understand that. My confusion is over why we didn't reject it initially, considering Paine's and Jefferson's influence on early America, the intellectuals in particular.
I'm sure the question is naive, and I'm exposing my ignorance in the process; just thought one of our resident historians might clarify.
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I was wondering what does the regular agnostic/atheist/none believer think about these things because imo no human being can think this is a good thing.
The average person in the above demographic is what the bible refers to as "fools".
I think that gives you your answer.
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Education and open mindedness has always been the enemy of religion. No difference here. I thought slavery was wrong in spite of many people thinking it was right. I think gay marriage is fine though many people oppose it. Christians are mad because they've had it their way for so long they forgot there are other people who don't share their personal beliefs. So now they cry about persecution and having to whisper in the halls... guess what.. when I was growing up if you said you were atheist it was a sure fire way to an ass whooping by all the Christian red necks in town. A non believer couldn't own a successful business. Couldn't run for public office.. so lets keep the whining down shall we?
You are full of shit. And probably not that bright (being a cop).
The history of Christian persecution is horrific (if you went to the trouble to read a book once in a while you might know that).
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so brainwashing children to be lesbos, homos, transsexuals whatever else is better? How about letting children choose what cultural/traditional practises they want to take part in without deceiving or missleading them in any way, huh? How about teaching children biology, math, chemistry, languages, philosophy etc etc. Christian religion and other religions and practises should be optional, not banned, and teachers shouldn't force kids to do NOTHING without their parents consent. Parents > teachers
You're totally putting words in his mouth.
Where is Christianity banned? Allow me to read your mind now: You want God in the classroom, huh? Is that what this about? Intelligent Design taught in science, right?
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You are full of shit. And probably not that bright (being a cop).
The history of Christian persecution is horrific (if you went to the trouble to read a book once in a while you might know that).
You're an endlessly self-contradicting conspiracy kook, friend. Intelligence-wise, the guy is in an entirely different league. Hell, it's not even the same f'n sport.
Mind your tone.
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You're an endlessly self-contradicting conspiracy kook, friend. Intelligence-wise, the guy is in an entirely different league. Hell, it's not even the same f'n sport.
Mind your tone.
ha ha suck his dick
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I find it odd that Gays and atheists want to get married.
Odd that anyone does.
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You're totally putting words in his mouth.
Where is Christianity banned? Allow me to read your mind now: You want God in the classroom, huh? Is that what this about? Intelligent Design taught in science, right?
ALL of that shit is imaginary. Nothing he has posted suggests any of it is happening.
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ha ha suck his dick
Inconvenient truth, sorry.
Wait, you can't possible be a CT and a Christian. Can you?
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Inconvenient truth, sorry.
to the slow witted (you) i'm sure other mental midgets look smart, hence your gay admiration for the men in blue
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to the slow witted (you) i'm sure other mental midgets look smart, hence your gay admiration for the men in blue
You're adorable.
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You're totally putting words in his mouth.
Where is Christianity banned? Allow me to read your mind now: You want God in the classroom, huh? Is that what this about? Intelligent Design taught in science, right?
since he is putting words in my mouth, or at least making stupid generalizations of christians and christianity that are bullshit, I thought I'd return the favor.
but here's one
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/california.school.bans.all.christian.books/41072.htm
And you didn't read anything I said. I said christianity and other religions should be optional teachings in school and should be available for anyone who wishes to study religions, they shouldn't be denied. Don't argue if you don't read what I said because I didn't say that god should be explained in science class in a school ::), talking about putting words in MY mouth.
The average person in the above demographic is what the bible refers to as "fools".
I think that gives you your answer.
Yeah I see it. These two refuse to see anything other than what they want to see obviously.
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Here we go again. ::)
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The average person in the above demographic is what the bible refers to as "fools".
I think that gives you your answer.
that's a pretty cool answer on a couple levels
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You are full of shit. And probably not that bright (being a cop).
The history of Christian persecution is horrific (if you went to the trouble to read a book once in a while you might know that).
The history of Christians persecuting isn't all that fun either. But we are really talking about today's Christians in the U.S. according the article
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since he is putting words in my mouth, or at least making stupid generalizations of christians and christianity that are bullshit, I thought I'd return the favor.
but here's one
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/california.school.bans.all.christian.books/41072.htm
And you didn't read anything I said. I said christianity and other religions should be optional teachings in school and should be available for anyone who wishes to study religions, they shouldn't be denied. Don't argue if you don't read what I said because I didn't say that god should be explained in science class in a school ::), talking about putting words in MY mouth.
Yeah I see it. These two refuse to see anything other than what they want to see obviously.
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since he is putting words in my mouth, or at least making stupid generalizations of christians and christianity that are bullshit, I thought I'd return the favor.
but here's one
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/california.school.bans.all.christian.books/41072.htm
And you didn't read anything I said. I said christianity and other religions should be optional teachings in school and should be available for anyone who wishes to study religions, they shouldn't be denied. Don't argue if you don't read what I said because I didn't say that god should be explained in science class in a school ::), talking about putting words in MY mouth.
Yeah I see it. These two refuse to see anything other than what they want to see obviously.
They already "teach" religion - always have - in the context of history, sociology, literature, etc., exactly where it belongs. So what are you even saying?
Also, "Don't"? That ever work for you, seriously? Like anyone, I'm obviously gonna post wherever, whether or not I've read a single word of anything. But you knew that, silly.
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it doesnt require to be christian/religious to see whats wrong with homosexuality. It s just common sense and has always been seen as something abnormal in all human and animal societies. Just like pedophilia and zoophilia or necrophilia.
Now it s becoming a norm, trend in the west and only there, simply because the atheist west is in complete decline. Homosexuality is at its core, a nihilistic , suicidal behavior. Feminists who took over males in the west of course encourage it; males submit by wanting to become women in order to survive. Obviously females have completely taken over males in atheist, white societies.
There is no doubt in my mind the white race is heading the way of the dodo. No way muslims or chinese ever fall into that nihilistic, suicidal stance. They ll gladly take over what we leave behind us.
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it doesnt require to be christian/religious to see whats wrong with homosexuality. It s just common sense and has always been seen as something abnormal in all human and animal societies. Just like pedophilia and zoophilia or necrophilia.
Now it s becoming a norm, trend in the west and only there, simply because the atheist west is in complete decline. Homosexuality is at its core, a nihilistic , suicidal behavior. Feminists who took over males in the west of course encourage it; males submit by wanting to become women in order to survive. Obviously females have completely taken over males in atheist, white societies.
There is no doubt in my mind the white race is heading the way of the dodo. No way muslims or chinese ever fall into that nihilistic, suicidal stance. They ll gladly take over what we leave behind us.
Here's what concerns me about your position. 150 yrs ago you could say "It's just common sense and has always been seen as something normal to own slaves" or "It's just common sense and has always been seen as normal that women don't have the capacity to vote" or "It's just common sense that witches exist and can be discovered by burning or drowning them, everyone knows that"
The thing is.. we have evolved or I hope we have, and what we once thought was good or bad.. may not be the case when the light of science and knowledge is shown on the subject.
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Here's what concerns me about your position. 150 yrs ago you could say "It's just common sense and has always been seen as something normal to own slaves" or "It's just common sense and has always been seen as normal that women don't have the capacity to vote" or "It's just common sense that witches exist and can be discovered by burning or drowning them, everyone knows that"
The thing is.. we have evolved or I hope we have, and what we once thought was good or bad.. may not be the case when the light of science and knowledge is shown on the subject.
Here's what concerns me about yours: Why are you reading his posts?
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Here's what concerns me about yours: Why are you reading his posts?
no good?
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no good?
Nothing gained is all.
Every post is the same: Man is but a higher primate; slave to instinct, environment, and evolution; no free will, no self, consciousness is an illusion ...
Like a Darwinian robot.