Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bigmikecox on July 15, 2015, 12:24:44 PM
-
Seems like MD has had to cut Victor to afford DLB!!!! Im willing to bet my BBC that by next year, DLB will be the only athlete under contract with MD
-
Seems like MD has had to cut Victor to afford DLB!!!! Im willing to bet my BBC that by next year, DLB will be the only athlete under contract with MD
makes good business sense...just expanding their base to include dlb schmoes and dlb wannabes...
-
Seems like MD has had to cut Victor to afford DLB!!!! Im willing to bet my BBC that by next year, DLB will be the only athlete under contract with MD
hey mike to they still have all the has beens like wheeler and ray writinng bulls hit articles? i havent read them in years.
isnt it true there numbers are way down now as well .
-
Have not bought that shit rag in years...WILL NEVER buy it again...magazines are going the way of the dinosaurs......
-
hey mike to they still have all the has beens like wheeler and ray writinng bulls hit articles? i havent read them in years.
isnt it true there numbers are way down now as well .
the mag is SMALL compared to what it once was. It used to be like 400+ pages, now its 200 with half being articles. I still get a subscription bc im a magazine guy, but its sad. Ron Harris is a good writer and I love his stuff and the interviews McGough does are GREAT but the quality has really gone down and they just have about 5 guys still under contract
-
this picked up their sales.... agree though mags sucked after the 70's...
-
Seems like MD has had to cut Victor to afford DLB!!!! Im willing to bet my BBC that by next year, DLB will be the only athlete under contract with MD
Makes sense from a business perspective. From what I have read, DLB has a line of people at expos waiting to see her.
-
http://www.musclesportmag.com/2015/07/15/confirmed-victor-martinez-let-go-by-muscular-development/
-
Makes sense from a business perspective. From what I have read, DLB has a line of people at expos waiting to see her.
She is popular, but im not sure that's going to translate to new subscriptions when her fans can get their DLB fix on her IG and FB
-
Makes sense from a business perspective. From what I have read, DLB has a line of people at expos waiting to see her.
quick ironmeister photoshop dlb head onto this... will be an instant classic..
-
What's with the lame ass banner ads all over musclesportmag's articles?
-
sad to see this happening to him. hope MHP doesn't drop him.
-
She is popular, but im not sure that's going to translate to new subscriptions when her fans can get their DLB fix on her IG and FB
I wonder if MD will still allow her to be so active on those sites (IG and FB).
-
quick ironmeister photoshop dlb head onto this... will be an instant classic..
haha, that will be epic lol ;D ;D
-
sad to see this happening to him. hope MHP doesn't drop him.
Agreed. But how much could a company like MHP pay him?
-
it cant be that much with the way magazines are selling these days
i remember reading mike mentzer was getting 4k a month from iron man, but thatwas in the 90's i bet they sold 3 to 4 times as many magazines then.
shit if weider were still alive and had not sold his crap, he wouldnt be able to give it away now
lets face it bros internet destroyed the magazine industry. plus there was oversaturation of magazines back then. to . that didnt help
-
quick ironmeister photoshop dlb head onto this... will be an instant classic..
what's taking so long???
-
MHP is next.
TB
-
He is old news. That happens.
-
Career on the downswing. Unlucky guy. In jail or dead by 45.
-
He never left MD. This was posted on Facebook Thursday morning
Seems someone is making up stories?
-
my question is why would md kept victor
i mean does anyone really care about victors training secrets
-
Why is he holding his mouth open like a retarded person?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=576386.0;attach=630046;image)
-
Why is he holding his mouth open like a retarded person?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=576386.0;attach=630046;image)
Channeling his inner DLB
-
could this be a trick to get people talking about MD??? I've always liked Vic, but his column is one of the most useless of all.
-
I like Victor.
He is a very mellow guy and a nice person to train with.
That said, I believe he needs to find better ways to make money, as I feel that his time is almost done in this industry.
This happens to every professional bodybuilder in the industry. Unless you can provide other services (Bob Chick hosting events for example) or write actual columns (not have a ghost writer), there is no reason for these magazines to keep these guys on board once they become less and less relevant.
"1"
-
I stand by this story one hundred percent. Gregg received this info first hand from Victor Martinez on 7/11/15. Whatever scrambling and damage control that MD did after we spoke about it on our podcast on Monday and then posted the article a day later is unbeknownst to us.
Ron Harris's MD post at 10:17 AM today:
Please check Victor's most recent post on his IG, ifbbvictormartinez . Also, Steve B will be responding on this thread later today.
Bottom line, this story was spread by Joe Pietaro and Gregg Valentino. Both were let go by MD and are very bitter about that, and used Victor to serve their own agenda. All I can add to this is that Victor will continue to work with MD. He is part of the MD family.
Victor's IG post is conflicting to what he said to Valentino and that obviously is something that transpired since Saturday (or more likely, Monday after we spoke about the conversation).
And if I had the ability to post on MD, I would gladly respond to Ron by stating that we are certainly bitter about getting fired by MD, but more importantly now that we have an established magazine that is growing by the day, MD is our direct competition.
Our agenda is to not 'use' anyone, but rather put out a good product and be transparent about things like this. The exact opposite is what MD does, and Martinez's status with them has been a mystery for a month or so now.
The same situation occurred recently with both Evan Centopani and Jose Raymond with MD and regardless of whatever Blechy did to try and make our report appear like irresponsible journalism, it didn't work. Our story was accurate at the time it was reported; conference room meetings with red pens were pursuant to that.
And "continue to work with MD" and being a "part of the MD family" are not committing to an exclusive contract with Martinez. Fine choice of words by MD's senior writer, but I, for one, saw right through them.
*waiting with bated breath for the statement by Blechy*
-
Continue working with is code for having Victor continue to pretend to be a paid contributor until he can find something else to save face.
-
I stand by this story one hundred percent. Gregg received this info first hand from Victor Martinez on 7/11/15. Whatever scrambling and damage control that MD did after we spoke about it on our podcast on Monday and then posted the article a day later is unbeknownst to us.
Ron Harris's MD post at 10:17 AM today:
Please check Victor's most recent post on his IG, ifbbvictormartinez . Also, Steve B will be responding on this thread later today.
Bottom line, this story was spread by Joe Pietaro and Gregg Valentino. Both were let go by MD and are very bitter about that, and used Victor to serve their own agenda. All I can add to this is that Victor will continue to work with MD. He is part of the MD family.
Victor's IG post is conflicting to what he said to Valentino and that obviously is something that transpired since Saturday (or more likely, Monday after we spoke about the conversation).
And if I had the ability to post on MD, I would gladly respond to Ron by stating that we are certainly bitter about getting fired by MD, but more importantly now that we have an established magazine that is growing by the day, MD is our direct competition.
Our agenda is to not 'use' anyone, but rather put out a good product and be transparent about things like this. The exact opposite is what MD does, and Martinez's status with them has been a mystery for a month or so now.
The same situation occurred recently with both Evan Centopani and Jose Raymond with MD and regardless of whatever Blechy did to try and make our report appear like irresponsible journalism, it didn't work. Our story was accurate at the time it was reported; conference room meetings with red pens were pursuant to that.
And "continue to work with MD" and being a "part of the MD family" are not committing to an exclusive contract with Martinez. Fine choice of words by MD's senior writer, but I, for one, saw right through them.
*waiting with bated breath for the statement by Blechy*
::)
-
Continue working with is code for having Victor continue to pretend to be a paid contributor until he can find something else to save face.
Yep. And Blechman's statement on it is now supposed to happen tomorrow morning. It will be one of two things:
*Victor's not exclusive, but will continue to be in MD on a regular or semi-regular basis (pay-per-shoot type of deal)
-or-
*MD re-signs Victor to an exclusive contract & says that it was always their intention to do so and there may have been some miscommunication.
I put my money on the former, judging by the way Ron Harris chose his words. But what's funny is that when this was first posted on MD, Ron, Peter McGough and WisconsinBB all chimed in on the thread and didn't refute any of the claims about Victor. Only the next day did Ron post about it.
-
THE BEEF is with Joe. Had there been nothing to this Steve Blechman would have squelched to rumor with a post the moment it popped up.
THE BEEF
-
THE BEEF is with Joe. Had there been nothing to this Steve Blechman would have squelched to rumor with a post the moment it popped up.
THE BEEF
Exactly.
So this is what took Blechy an extra day to put out? It says nothing and is totally ambiguous in so many ways:
*You can’t believe everything you read online. - Sure you can, when the source (MuscleSport Magazine) received it directly from the subject in question (Victor Martinez).
*We have had a long standing relationship with Victor, which began in 2003, and continue to do so. - Yes, Martinez had a long standing EXCLUSIVE contract with MD since 2003, but failed to notify him if it was going to be renewed or not, hence the questions being asked a month ago on their own site by their readers if he was coming back or not. OK, so Victor appears to be back with MD in some capacity after we posted our story and they took flak for it. But is that an exclusive deal?
*The dynamics of exclusive agreements have certainly changed, but we will continue to work with the athletes with continued exposure in the industry. - I suppose that this answers the above question. So if FLEX or RX Muscle approach Victor for an interview, shoot or video, is he permitted to do so without breaking his agreement? Does he even have an agreement? (Transparency by MD would go a long way in making those questions a moot point.)
*Victor also knows this changing dynamic and is now putting on his first bb show August 22, 2015. We are excited to partner up with him to help promote this show, and we know with Victor’s vision, it will be a complete success! - Is this the extent of their relationship at this point? Again, sketchy & carefully crafted words by Blechy leave their readers and Victor's fans scratching their heads and still wondering what role - if any - he has with the actual publication. And Victor himself deserved better than to have to go out of his way to defend MD and show loyalty, only to have this meager paragraph to base his future on.
-
That photoshoped pic of that little homo makes me laugh every time. Knock it off Steve, you're not fooling anybody with that shit you skinny little runt.
-
Exactly.
So this is what took Blechy an extra day to put out? It says nothing and is totally ambiguous in so many ways:
*You can’t believe everything you read online. - Sure you can, when the source (MuscleSport Magazine) received it directly from the subject in question (Victor Martinez).
*We have had a long standing relationship with Victor, which began in 2003, and continue to do so. - Yes, Martinez had a long standing EXCLUSIVE contract with MD since 2003, but failed to notify him if it was going to be renewed or not, hence the questions being asked a month ago on their own site by their readers if he was coming back or not. OK, so Victor appears to be back with MD in some capacity after we posted our story and they took flak for it. But is that an exclusive deal?
*The dynamics of exclusive agreements have certainly changed, but we will continue to work with the athletes with continued exposure in the industry. - I suppose that this answers the above question. So if FLEX or RX Muscle approach Victor for an interview, shoot or video, is he permitted to do so without breaking his agreement? Does he even have an agreement? (Transparency by MD would go a long way in making those questions a moot point.)
*Victor also knows this changing dynamic and is now putting on his first bb show August 22, 2015. We are excited to partner up with him to help promote this show, and we know with Victor’s vision, it will be a complete success! - Is this the extent of their relationship at this point? Again, sketchy & carefully crafted words by Blechy leave their readers and Victor's fans scratching their heads and still wondering what role - if any - he has with the actual publication. And Victor himself deserved better than to have to go out of his way to defend MD and show loyalty, only to have this meager paragraph to base his future on.
Written by a lawyer.
THE BEEF