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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Howard on July 21, 2015, 08:58:38 AM
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I have to give props to Rich Piana for tapping into the real niche market of younger male gym goers.
Back when I was young meathead, Wieder used bodybuilders and the southern Cal beach lifestyle to sell his products.
We all dreamed of moving to Venice beach and pumping iron with Arnold and the gang at Gold's.
Yup, we bought every issue of Muscle Builder and Power . We purchased as much Wieder Wt Gainer and protein tabs as we could afford. We trained in iron dungeons and dreamed of being on the Olympia stage posing down with Arnold.
Rich Piana is a big bodybuilder with larger then life persona. While he never developed a great contest physique he has evolved into an entertaining bodybuilding character. Thanks to the meteoric rise in social networking, the old world of bodybuilding has passed away, along with our beloved Ben and Joe Wieder. When I started bodybuilding, we had to call Venice Beach Gold's gym, the week after the Olympia to find out who won. The magazines featured the top contest bodybuilders and were the main source of bodybuilding news . Social media and the internet changed all that, forever.
The real $$ and fame in bodybuilding today isn't gained from winning contests.
It comes from creating an image and lifestyle that others identify with .
The "5%" image Rich has marketed taps into the desires of younger male gym rats.
From rapper to rockers, being a bad ass has appeal for lots of young dudes.
What young male doesn't want a lifestyle of sexy babes , fast cars and saying Fuk U to society at large.
Rich's 5% thing is an image and personal IDENTITY for young guys .
It's no different then the Goth dress ; biker tattoos, denim and leather or Hip Hop baggy pants and backwards caps.
It's a mini version of sex, drugs and rock n' roll.
I gotta give Rich credit for using his charisma and social networking to promote this 5% badass image.
I doubt too many younger dudes in the gym would find my current lifestyle too appealing.
Having a basic career, no drugs or drinking and only screwing my wife would seem quite boring to the younger folks.
30-40 yrs ago, the young Howard might relate more the 5%'rs then my current lifestyle. LOL
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5% brain capacity used
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5% real muscle
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95% creepy thread.
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Is he still alive?
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denim and leather
Amazing record...
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I have to give props to Rich Piana for tapping into the real niche market of younger male gym goers.
Back when I was young meathead, Wieder used bodybuilders and the southern Cal beach lifestyle to sell his products.
We all dreamed of moving to Venice beach and pumping iron with Arnold and the gang at Gold's.
Yup, we bought every issue of Muscle Builder and Power . We purchased as much Wieder Wt Gainer and protein tabs as we could afford. We trained in iron dungeons and dreamed of being on the Olympia stage posing down with Arnold.
Rich Piana is a big bodybuilder with larger then life persona. While he never developed a great contest physique he has evolved into an entertaining bodybuilding character. Thanks to the meteoric rise in social networking, the old world of bodybuilding has passed away, along with our beloved Ben and Joe Wieder. When I started bodybuilding, we had to call Venice Beach Gold's gym, the week after the Olympia to find out who won. The magazines featured the top contest bodybuilders and were the main source of bodybuilding news . Social media and the internet changed all that, forever.
The real $$ and fame in bodybuilding today isn't gained from winning contests.
It comes from creating an image and lifestyle that others identify with .
The "5%" image Rich has marketed taps into the desires of younger male gym rats.
From rapper to rockers, being a bad ass has appeal for lots of young dudes.
What young male doesn't want a lifestyle of sexy babes , fast cars and saying Fuk U to society at large.
Rich's 5% thing is an image and personal IDENTITY for young guys .
It's no different then the Goth dress ; biker tattoos, denim and leather or Hip Hop baggy pants and backwards caps.
It's a mini version of sex, drugs and rock n' roll.
I gotta give Rich credit for using his charisma and social networking to promote this 5% badass image.
I doubt too many younger dudes in the gym would find my current lifestyle too appealing.
Having a basic career, no drugs or drinking and only screwing my wife would seem quite boring to the younger folks.
30-40 yrs ago, the young Howard might relate more the 5%'rs then my current lifestyle. LOL
My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
In contrast, take Shredz' Joey Swoll. Makes a ton of money, has a good look that can be maintained for years to come and a solid business and plan.
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My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
In contrast, take Shredz' Joey Swoll. Makes a ton of money, has a good look that can be maintained for years to come and a solid business and plan.
May we suggest a hole in the wall gym and bunk gear? That's good for $50,000 a month :-\
THE BEEF
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May we suggest a hole in the wall gym? That's good for $50,000 a month :-\
THE BEEF
At least
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95% creepy thread.
I guess it lacks the extra 5%?
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I guess it lacks the extra 5%?
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Howard step up your effort. I know you have that extra 15% to give 110% creepiness factor.
Don't sell us short.
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My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
In contrast, take Shredz' Joey Swoll. Makes a ton of money, has a good look that can be maintained for years to come and a solid business and plan.
I disagree and I'll briefly explain why.
He's naturally a big guy with a wide structure. His persona is what sells more then his physique.
Rich is more WWE type character then serious bodybuilder
He doesn't compete now and can remain a permabulker for many years .
Plus, the whole 5% thing is an image and rebel, bad ass lifestyle.
Unlike some pro BB, his brand isn't based on how impressive HE looks.
He appears creative enough to tweek and spin this thing for many years via social media use.
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My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
In contrast, take Shredz' Joey Swoll. Makes a ton of money, has a good look that can be maintained for years to come and a solid business and plan.
Not much news from Joey lately, maybe we can get an update.
I disagree and I'll briefly explain why.
He's naturally a big guy with a wide structure. His persona is what sells more then his physique.
Rich is more WWE type character then serious bodybuilder
He doesn't compete now and can remain a permabulker for many years .
Plus, the whole 5% thing is an image and rebel, bad ass lifestyle.
Unlike some pro BB, his brand isn't based on how impressive HE looks.
He appears creative enough to tweek and spin this thing for many years via social media use.
He was born in 1971 according to Google, making him about 45 now. I give his liver and kidneys another three years tops.
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This is all I get from Rich Piano vids:
"F***in went to the f***in gym for a f***in chest workout. When we finally f***in got there the f***in place was f***in packed with a f***in buncha a f***in non-f***in -5%rs. So my f***in crew cleared the f***in place out in 5 f***in minutes and then f***in hit our f***in chests with every f***in thing we f***in had in our f***in bodies for six f***in hours!!"
I completely understand why today's 20-somethin, unwashed degenerates love him.
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:)
Howard step up your effort. I know you have that extra 15% to give 110% creepiness factor.
Don't sell us short.
Ok, you asked for it.
Now imagine entering your gym locker room and seeing me, naked , bending over , by my locker.
I stand back up, wink at you and say ; " Hmmm, checking out my glutes and hams 'eh?"
THAT should put me over the 100% creep mark and make getbiggers fear entering their local gym locker room.
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Not much news from Joey lately, maybe we can get an update.
He was born in 1971 according to Google, making him about 45 now. I give his liver and kidneys another three years tops.
I don't really know I only hear from my step-son who works for an apparel co that works with Shredz and has met him a few times on some shoots. I know he's big, seems to be humble with a good business mind. Last I heard Google is trying to buy the code, formula or whatever thats making his social media so successful.
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1. Close your eyes and relax.
2. Now picture me as best you can.
3. Now imagine entering your gym locker room and seeing me, naked , bending over , by my locker.
I stand back up, wink at you and say ; " Hmmm, checking out my glutes and hams 'eh?"
.....go on
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I disagree and I'll briefly explain why.
He's naturally a big guy with a wide structure. His persona is what sells more then his physique.
Rich is more WWE type character then serious bodybuilder
He doesn't compete now and can remain a permabulker for many years .
Plus, the whole 5% thing is an image and rebel, bad ass lifestyle.
Unlike some pro BB, his brand isn't based on how impressive HE looks.
He appears creative enough to tweek and spin this thing for many years via social media use.
X2
Rich's image is like Beats ear phones, style has a shelf life, unless you trend it younger.
I'm sure he will figure something out, get younger dudes in his videos and sups (like hanging out with the blonde chick)or sell his "company" to another established or upstart snake oil looking to make an impact.
Worst case he will put his younger head on Robbie Robinsons body.
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.....go on
The Mayor of BB enters and the three of us head to the sauna with nothing but white towels and a grapefruit.
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I don't really know I only hear from my step-son who works for an apparel co that works with Shredz and has met him a few times on some shoots. I know he's big, seems to be humble with a good business mind. Last I heard Google is trying to buy the code, formula or whatever thats making his social media so successful.
Coach.........
Google can't figure out how Shredz has a staffer using instagram who is liking photos and using hashtags?
This sounds like a Goodrum line.
:)
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Your fascination with Piana is disturbing.
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Coach.........
Google can't figure out how Shredz has a staffer using instagram who is liking photos and using hashtags?
This sounds like a Goodrum line.
:)
if it was that simple everyone would be making big money. He (the company) just happens to REALLY big money. Paige Hathaway is making over the 1/2 mil dollar mark if that says anything.
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I don't really know I only hear from my step-son who works for an apparel co that works with Shredz and has met him a few times on some shoots. I know he's big, seems to be humble with a good business mind. Last I heard Google is trying to buy the code, formula or whatever thats making his social media so successful.
Joey facilitated one of the great threads in Getbig history where he produced a photo of himself literally eating the whore-pussy of his rival's wife, then a third random getbigger who had also fucked her appeared :D
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My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
In contrast, take Shredz' Joey Swoll. Makes a ton of money, has a good look that can be maintained for years to come and a solid business and plan.
Coach. With all due respect.
The internet has changed everything. You have to make your money NOW. You can build all the long term systems you want but technology will blow your ass away before you ever get your investment back going that way.
Will live in a different planet now and things are changing in the blink of an eye. You have to worry about tomorrow tomorrow and make the adjustments then. Of course, keep what I'm saying in context. I not saying to do stupid things.
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This is all I get from Rich Piano vids:
"F***in went to the f***in gym for a f***in chest workout. When we finally f***in got there the f***in place was f***in packed with a f***in buncha a f***in non-f***in -5%rs. So my f***in crew cleared the f***in place out in 5 f***in minutes and then f***in hit our f***in chests with every f***in thing we f***in had in our f***in bodies for six f***in hours!!"
I completely understand why today's 20-somethin, unwashed degenerates love him.
He can talk reasonably well on various subjects but he's awfully childish and ridiculously vain. Have you seen the video where he talks about being able to tell lots about someone if they wear Nike sneakers instead of Adidas and how if you drive with one hand on the steering wheel it means you're really cool?! The guy seems to have the mind-set of a pretentious 12 year old.
Add his taste for contact lenses and crappy tattoos that he attaches lame meaning to and you have a sad, pathetically fragile ego.
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The Mayor of BB enters and the three of us head to the sauna with nothing but white towels and a grapefruit.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm.......
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if it was that simple everyone would be making big money. He (the company) just happens to REALLY big money. Paige Hathaway is making over the 1/2 mil dollar mark if that says anything.
Valid point.
I had no idea this guy was that big of a deal.
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Coach. With all due respect.
The internet has changed everything. You have to make your money NOW. You can build all the long term systems you want but technology will blow your ass away before you ever get your investment back going that way.
Will live in a different planet now and things are changing in the blink of an eye. You have to worry about tomorrow tomorrow and make the adjustments then. Of course, keep what I'm saying in context. I not saying to do stupid things.
I agree 100%. it's to the point that chicks with great bodies with absolutely ZERO knowledge of anything training related can make a great living. I guess my point was that Rich is probably making a shit ton of $$ now and probably won't last that much longer unless he finds a way to leverage that for the future. But aside from that his look.....he can't maintain that forever. In that sense he kind of screwed himself. I've found as you get older that "hardcore' persona catches up.
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Valid point.
I had no idea this guy was that big of a deal.
I actually follow him for business purposes to see how comes off, interacts and markets himself.
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May we suggest a hole in the wall gym and bunk gear? That's good for $50,000 a month :-\
THE BEEF
HOLY SHIT - it all makes sense now... You are pissed because you got geared up and ended up still looking like you do.. So you smoke and drink and wear that dirty chef costume and come here to let loose on those guys that did what you couldn't??
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5%
The number of twenty somethings who will work a full time job.
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5%
The number of twenty somethings who will work a full time job.
;D
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if it was that simple everyone would be making big money. He (the company) just happens to REALLY big money. Paige Hathaway is making over the 1/2 mil dollar mark if that says anything.
Thats tue but I don't think it's a joey swole, or the Devin guy or Paige secret--- it's a Shredz tactic that they do for their people.
They've been killing IG since 2013 or so. How the hell they do it I have no idea.
I mean how the hell do you live in a 2 mill condo in the OC and drive a Lambo making meal plans lol??? Something fishy going on and most likely short lived.
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Thats tue but I don't think it's a joey swole, or the Devin guy or Paige secret--- it's a Shredz tactic that they do for their people.
They've been killing IG since 2013 or so. How the hell they do it I have no idea.
I mean how the hell do you live in a 2 mill condo in the OC and drive a Lambo making meal plans lol??? Something fishy going on and most likely short lived.
It's all hype and bullshit marketing image.
I worked out with a dude who was a male stripper back in 80's.
They had a promo pic , getting off a Lear jet.
It was all BS, as they knew a guy who worked at the airport .
He told them when to come down , so they could pose on the ramp while they serviced the plane.
Social media is well suited for this hyped up bullcrap.
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I have to give props to Rich Piana for tapping into the real niche market of younger male gym goers.
Back when I was young meathead, Wieder used bodybuilders and the southern Cal beach lifestyle to sell his products.
We all dreamed of moving to Venice beach and pumping iron with Arnold and the gang at Gold's.
Yup, we bought every issue of Muscle Builder and Power . We purchased as much Wieder Wt Gainer and protein tabs as we could afford. We trained in iron dungeons and dreamed of being on the Olympia stage posing down with Arnold.
Rich Piana is a big bodybuilder with larger then life persona. While he never developed a great contest physique he has evolved into an entertaining bodybuilding character. Thanks to the meteoric rise in social networking, the old world of bodybuilding has passed away, along with our beloved Ben and Joe Wieder. When I started bodybuilding, we had to call Venice Beach Gold's gym, the week after the Olympia to find out who won. The magazines featured the top contest bodybuilders and were the main source of bodybuilding news . Social media and the internet changed all that, forever.
The real $$ and fame in bodybuilding today isn't gained from winning contests.
It comes from creating an image and lifestyle that others identify with .
The "5%" image Rich has marketed taps into the desires of younger male gym rats.
From rapper to rockers, being a bad ass has appeal for lots of young dudes.
What young male doesn't want a lifestyle of sexy babes , fast cars and saying Fuk U to society at large.
Rich's 5% thing is an image and personal IDENTITY for young guys .
It's no different then the Goth dress ; biker tattoos, denim and leather or Hip Hop baggy pants and backwards caps.
It's a mini version of sex, drugs and rock n' roll.
I gotta give Rich credit for using his charisma and social networking to promote this 5% badass image.
I doubt too many younger dudes in the gym would find my current lifestyle too appealing.
Having a basic career, no drugs or drinking and only screwing my wife would seem quite boring to the younger folks.
30-40 yrs ago, the young Howard might relate more the 5%'rs then my current lifestyle. LOL
I totally agree & Rich's popularity is something that I have witnessed first hand. He posted this shot of my new cover with him and have picked up a bunch of subscriptions since then. Rich is now one of our columnists and he will be profiling the 5% athletes in his articles.
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I totally agree & Rich's popularity is something that I have witnessed first hand. He posted this shot of my new cover with him and have picked up a bunch of subscriptions since then. Rich is now one of our columnists and he will be profiling the 5% athletes in his articles.
5% athletes? haha, lame as shit. Dude is ugly, shit physique, and full of synthol, and you're getting him to write for your magazine? Youre an idiot.
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Ok, you asked for it.
Now imagine entering your gym locker room and seeing me, naked , bending over , by my locker.
I stand back up, wink at you and say ; " Hmmm, checking out my glutes and hams 'eh?"
THAT should put me over the 100% creep mark and make getbiggers fear entering their local gym locker room.
You owe me a foot long subway. As I just hurled it onto the floor.
How dare you say thing that make me instantly begin to convulse.
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5% athletes? haha, lame as shit. Dude is ugly, shit physique, and full of synthol, and you're getting him to write for your magazine? Youre an idiot.
x2. Who even subscribes to magazines?? Unless it's some kind of online thing. I think Greg Valentino does interviews for the magazine as well, and listening to him makes you dumber by the second.
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Thats true but I don't think it's a joey swole, or the Devin guy or Paige secret--- it's a Shredz tactic that they do for their people.
They've been killing IG since 2013 or so. How the hell they do it I have no idea.
I mean how the hell do you live in a 2 mill condo in the OC and drive a Lambo making meal plans lol??? Something fishy going on and most likely short lived.
Having lived the fitness lifestyle I can safely say it's fluff-and-hype. It's important to their image (they pretend it's part of their business model) to "fake it till you make it."
It's either that ..... or the fact that there are a dozen mega-wealthy schmoes that bankroll these guys like Joey but do so discreetly because they have secret relationships with the fitness guys (and live the lie of fake hetero men married with children to the rest of the world).
I personally did not follow this "business plan" but I saw enough of it on the inner circle... and it was offered to me several times.
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Interesting interview
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I have to give props to Rich Piana for tapping into the real niche market of younger male gym goers.
Back when I was young meathead, Wieder used bodybuilders and the southern Cal beach lifestyle to sell his products.
We all dreamed of moving to Venice beach and pumping iron with Arnold and the gang at Gold's.
Yup, we bought every issue of Muscle Builder and Power . We purchased as much Wieder Wt Gainer and protein tabs as we could afford. We trained in iron dungeons and dreamed of being on the Olympia stage posing down with Arnold.
Rich Piana is a big bodybuilder with larger then life persona. While he never developed a great contest physique he has evolved into an entertaining bodybuilding character. Thanks to the meteoric rise in social networking, the old world of bodybuilding has passed away, along with our beloved Ben and Joe Wieder. When I started bodybuilding, we had to call Venice Beach Gold's gym, the week after the Olympia to find out who won. The magazines featured the top contest bodybuilders and were the main source of bodybuilding news . Social media and the internet changed all that, forever.
The real $$ and fame in bodybuilding today isn't gained from winning contests.
It comes from creating an image and lifestyle that others identify with .
The "5%" image Rich has marketed taps into the desires of younger male gym rats.
From rapper to rockers, being a bad ass has appeal for lots of young dudes.
What young male doesn't want a lifestyle of sexy babes , fast cars and saying Fuk U to society at large.
Rich's 5% thing is an image and personal IDENTITY for young guys .
It's no different then the Goth dress ; biker tattoos, denim and leather or Hip Hop baggy pants and backwards caps.
It's a mini version of sex, drugs and rock n' roll.
I gotta give Rich credit for using his charisma and social networking to promote this 5% badass image.
I doubt too many younger dudes in the gym would find my current lifestyle too appealing.
Having a basic career, no drugs or drinking and only screwing my wife would seem quite boring to the younger folks.
30-40 yrs ago, the young Howard might relate more the 5%'rs then my current lifestyle. LOL
Great observations Howard!
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You owe me a foot long . As I just JIZZED onto the floor.
How dare you say thing that make me instantly begin to climax.
Fixed ;)
This is getbig, you're among friends here
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I bet that these guys obtained all of their "start up" money by dealing drugs.
....And they probably still do
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I totally agree & Rich's popularity is something that I have witnessed first hand. He posted this shot of my new cover with him and have picked up a bunch of subscriptions since then. Rich is now one of our columnists and he will be profiling the 5% athletes in his articles.
Just because I'm giving Rich props, doesn't mean I think this direction/image is good for bodybuilding. Unlike some I can be objective and rate Rich's 5% thing based on it's own purpose and merits.
I find Rich to be more of a Gregg Valentino character and I like/respect both of them as men.
The problem is , guys like Rich (and especially GV) are not developing physiques that can win contests.
In any other sport, the main goal is to compete in the biggest pro league.
As you know, I'm old school and my main interest is what happens in bodybuilding contests.
I wish the 5% thing was more geared towards contest success , but I doubt THAT would be as popular.
The fact that Rich is more popular then many top pros, clearly shows that pro bodybuilding has gone off the cliff in recent years. The biggest division in terms of entrants now, is : bikini , figure and MPD.
The days of Ben and Joe promoting bodybuilding as the ONLY thing are in the rear view mirror.
Rich and GV are entertaining, charismatic men and I understand why they stopped trying to make it as pro contest bodybuilders. Those running the show have ruined it . I don't know the exact reasons why NBC-sn walked away from showing the 50th Olympia. BUT, I do know that was a stab straight in the heart for pro bodybuilding as a viable sport. I'm simply pissed off and frustrated that contests are NOT the main interest for most gym rats now.
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Just because I'm giving Rich props, doesn't mean I think this direction/image is good for bodybuilding. Unlike some I can be objective and rate Rich's 5% thing based on it's own purpose and merits.
I find Rich to be more of a Gregg Valentino character and I like/respect both of them as men.
The problem is , guys like Rich (and especially GV) are not developing physiques that can win contests.
In any other sport, the main goal is to compete in the biggest pro league.
As you know, I'm old school and my main interest is what happens in bodybuilding contests.
I wish the 5% thing was more geared towards contest success , but I doubt THAT would be as popular.
The fact that Rich is more popular then many top pros, clearly shows that pro bodybuilding has gone off the cliff in recent years. The biggest division in terms of entrants now, is : bikini , figure and MPD.
The days of Ben and Joe promoting bodybuilding as the ONLY thing are in the rear view mirror.
Rich and GV are entertaining, charismatic men and I understand why they stopped trying to make it as pro contest bodybuilders. Those running the show have ruined it . I don't know the exact reasons why NBC-sn walked away from showing the 50th Olympia. BUT, I do know that was a stab straight in the heart for pro bodybuilding as a viable sport. I'm simply pissed off and frustrated that contests are NOT the main interest for most gym rats now.
You can see how it happened though Howard. 20 years ago, apart from some comments down the gym and maybe at the club etc, a serious trainer would compete to get a level of validation for their work, and even if they don't place they can rub shoulders with other serious bodybuilders/get inspired. Now they just have to upload a pic with a tank top on facebook or instagram and get 1000 random strangers telling them they look jacked/props/#this/#that - job done.
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You can see how it happened though Howard. 20 years ago, apart from some comments down the gym and maybe at the club etc, a serious trainer would compete to get a level of validation for their work, and even if they don't place they can rub shoulders with other serious bodybuilders/get inspired. Now they just have to upload a pic with a tank top on facebook or instagram and get 1000 random strangers telling them they look jacked/props/#this/#that - job done.
Good post and sums it up well.
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Just because I'm giving Rich props, doesn't mean I think this direction/image is good for bodybuilding. Unlike some I can be objective and rate Rich's 5% thing based on it's own purpose and merits.
I find Rich to be more of a Gregg Valentino character and I like/respect both of them as men.
The problem is , guys like Rich (and especially GV) are not developing physiques that can win contests.
In any other sport, the main goal is to compete in the biggest pro league.
As you know, I'm old school and my main interest is what happens in bodybuilding contests.
I wish the 5% thing was more geared towards contest success , but I doubt THAT would be as popular.
The fact that Rich is more popular then many top pros, clearly shows that pro bodybuilding has gone off the cliff in recent years. The biggest division in terms of entrants now, is : bikini , figure and MPD.
The days of Ben and Joe promoting bodybuilding as the ONLY thing are in the rear view mirror.
Rich and GV are entertaining, charismatic men and I understand why they stopped trying to make it as pro contest bodybuilders. Those running the show have ruined it . I don't know the exact reasons why NBC-sn walked away from showing the 50th Olympia. BUT, I do know that was a stab straight in the heart for pro bodybuilding as a viable sport. I'm simply pissed off and frustrated that contests are NOT the main interest for most gym rats now.
I get what you're saying, Howard. But pro bodybuilding as a competitive sport is getting worse and worse every year and is not a viable business model unless you're one of the few that get that money - and I am certainly not! LOL
I was doing this magazine for years as a side business and only when I began profiling and bringing in guys that were popular for who they were and not straight pro competitors did it take off. Case in point - Piana posted the cover on his Instagram page and my followers have doubled and a shitload of new magazine subscribers. No doubt in my mind that was a direct result of his post. I had Phil Heath on a cover in 2012 and no one gave a fuck.
So I know now that it's my full time and main focus, that has a lot to do with the growth, as well. But it was thinking outside the box and not making the same mistakes as MD and FLEX that have made the difference.
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At least
We really look up to you coach.
TB
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Interesting interview
43 mins? Ouch. Clifs?
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I bet that these guys obtained all of their "start up" money by dealing drugs.
....And they probably still do
Then they're no different from the majority of the pros.
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I don't really know I only hear from my step-son who works for an apparel co that works with Shredz and has met him a few times on some shoots. I know he's big, seems to be humble with a good business mind. Last I heard Google is trying to buy the code, formula or whatever thats making his social media so successful.
LOL What??? ::) He doesn't have any code that google is trying to buy. He's just a spokesperson for a supplement company. He doesn't even have a million instagram followers.
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I don't really know I only hear from my step-son who works for an apparel co that works with Shredz and has met him a few times on some shoots. I know he's big, seems to be humble with a good business mind. Last I heard Google is trying to buy the code, formula or whatever thats making his social media so successful.
Coach, this is up there with the best of your stuff. Piana is now in demand, from google no less, for his high intellect. Classic!
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Piana and I have something in common. Women find me 5% appealing.
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Having lived the fitness lifestyle I can safely say it's fluff-and-hype. It's important to their image (they pretend it's part of their business model) to "fake it till you make it."
It's either that ..... or the fact that there are a dozen mega-wealthy schmoes that bankroll these guys like Joey but do so discreetly because they have secret relationships with the fitness guys (and live the lie of fake hetero men married with children to the rest of the world).
I personally did not follow this "business plan" but I saw enough of it on the inner circle... and it was offered to me several times.
I hate to interrupt another fascinating "debate" between Coach and The Beef, but I think we are all missing some excellent dirt that Grant might want to dish here...
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I don't really know I only hear from my step-son who works for an apparel co that works with Shredz and has met him a few times on some shoots. I know he's big, seems to be humble with a good business mind. Last I heard Google is trying to buy the code, formula or whatever thats making his social media so successful.
Haha! Google's engineers were working around the clock to reverse-engineer Joey's "code" and couldn't do it, so they MUST acquire him to get the intellectual property! LMAO!
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Coach, this is up there with the best of your stuff. Piana is now in demand, from google no less, for his high intellect. Classic!
My point wasn't about whats happening now. It's whats going to happen later. I know he's in demand NOW. I'd be willing to bet you didn't even begin to watch that interview I posted. Piana, by all accounts is on his own and he did a great job creating HIS OWN brand. Joey Swoll is backed by a thriving corporation that puts him on a salary more than what Piana could dream of. Piana has the persona of catering too and attracting thug-like wanna-be's and IMO can only take you so far. Shredz on the other hand appeals to everyone with a more professional and organized backing. If you would have heard in the interview, Arvin Lal took what he learned in the corporate world and grew the shit out his company in a short time. Be logical about it instead of being an ASSHOLE.
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Haha! Google's engineers were working around the clock to reverse-engineer Joey's "code" and couldn't do it, so they MUST acquire him to get the intellectual property! LMAO!
Another brilliant rebut.
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I don't agree that his success will only last as long as his image holds up.
If his brand is strong enough, all he needs is somebody else who represents the same image with enough charisma as he declines and takes a back seat.
He can still share his knowledge and express his opinions, just use somebody else as the face of the brand.
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Haha! Google's engineers were working around the clock to reverse-engineer Joey's "code" and couldn't do it, so they MUST acquire him to get the intellectual property! LMAO!
:D
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My point wasn't about whats happening now. It's whats going to happen later. I know he's in demand NOW. I'd be willing to bet you didn't even begin to watch that interview I posted. Piana, by all accounts is on his own and he did a great job creating HIS OWN brand. Joey Swoll is backed by a thriving corporation that puts him on a salary more than what Piana could dream of. Piana has the persona of catering too and attracting thug-like wanna-be's and IMO can only take you so far. Shredz on the other hand appeals to everyone with a more professional and organized backing. If you would have heard in the interview, Arvin Lal took what he learned in the corporate world and grew the shit out his company in a short time. Be logical about it instead of being an ASSHOLE.
But that says nothing about Swoll's future. He's a paid endorser and could have the rug pulled out from under him at any time. For that matter, so could Shredz. Instagram appeals to an extremely fickle demographic and supplement companies are not known for their longevity- not exactly a recipe for long term success.
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I hate to interrupt another fascinating "debate" between Coach and The Beef, but I think we are all missing some excellent dirt that Grant might want to dish here...
LOL- used to workout at the same NY area gym as bodybuilder who was "sponsored" by an openly gay businessman. The bodybuilder moved from the west coast to stay with the sponsor. Bodybuilder was publicly straight and moved back to west coast after about two years. He's married now to a woman in the fitness industry. At some point before the marriage he did some g4p vids.
I know everyone says bodybuilding is just a gateway to the g4p industry, but most of the NY bodybuilders that I actually know haven't done g4p.
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LOL What??? ::) He doesn't have any code that google is trying to buy. He's just a spokesperson for a supplement company. He doesn't even have a million instagram followers.
Mistake. I should have clarified and said Shredz the company. Not a code but I would say closer to a formula.
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LOL- used to workout at the same NY area gym as bodybuilder who was "sponsored" by an openly gay businessman. The bodybuilder moved from the west coast to stay with the sponsor. Bodybuilder was publicly straight and moved back to west coast after about two years. He's married now to a woman in the fitness industry. At some point before the marriage he did some g4p vids.
I know everyone says bodybuilding is just a gateway to the g4p industry, but most of the NY bodybuilders that I actually know haven't done g4p.
which can only mean they sell tonnes of gear. It's one or the other.
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My point wasn't about whats happening now. It's whats going to happen later. I know he's in demand NOW. I'd be willing to bet you didn't even begin to watch that interview I posted. Piana, by all accounts is on his own and he did a great job creating HIS OWN brand. Joey Swoll is backed by a thriving corporation that puts him on a salary more than what Piana could dream of. Piana has the persona of catering too and attracting thug-like wanna-be's and IMO can only take you so far. Shredz on the other hand appeals to everyone with a more professional and organized backing. If you would have heard in the interview, Arvin Lal took what he learned in the corporate world and grew the shit out his company in a short time. Be logical about it instead of being an ASSHOLE.
I was getting tired of THE BEEF's constant harassment of you, but now, I'm starting to see things in a different light.
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I was getting tired of THE BEEF's constant harassment of you, but now, I'm starting to see things in a different light.
Then feel free to jump in instead of loading the thread with bullshit jabs. Is that possible?
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My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
This is a typical cope used by those who are jealous of those richer than them.
Do you really think hard driving entrepreneurs are in it so they can work till 80 years old or that if one is making enough money currently and for the appropriate amount of time that they can't retire or sell their business?
Most people who are successful entrepreneurs aim to become an administrator or chairman of the business they founded so they don't have to remain shackled to a business for 60 or more hours per week as they hobble around with a walker or serve coffees and flip burgers as we see senior and even middle age people doing today.
#cope
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Piana has the persona of catering too and attracting thug-like wanna-be's and IMO can only take you so far.
Which actually can be quite far! :) Do you think Eminem earned millions by acting like a choir boy. Acting like or appearing as a wigger, degenerate, low life, or overgrown kid is quite lucrative for some in current-day America.
#cope
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My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
In contrast, take Shredz' Joey Swoll. Makes a ton of money, has a good look that can be maintained for years to come and a solid business and plan.
Not at all. What he needs to do is continue to market those in his group. The other guys will keep that image and he'll just be the leader. He may fizzle out but as long as his mentors can take over the 5% brand will remain.
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Which actually can be quite far! :) Do you think Eminem earned millions by acting like a choir boy. Acting like or appearing as a wigger, degenerate, low life, or overgrown kid is quite lucrative for some in current-day America.
#cope
Quite. Tap Out all over again.
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Quite. Tap Out all over again.
As you can see, most PUA and lifting videos on You Tube made by white guys have a wigger-hip-hop flavor to them, whether it's the garb that 40-plus year old men look ridiculous wearing (jerseys, outfits, Jordans, sideways and backwards baseball caps, enormous basketball shorts that extend to mid-shin), 'Brew slang, an abnormal gait in which one voluntarily walks with a limp or some other physical handicap, the music, or laughable badass posturing.
It's crass, but it works.
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Give the people what they want, and the money will follow.
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As you can see, most PUA and lifting videos on You Tube made by white guys have a wigger-hip-hop flavor to them, whether it's the garb that 40-plus year old men look ridiculous wearing (jerseys, outfits, Jordans, sideways and backwards baseball caps, enormous basketball shorts that extend to mid-shin), 'Brew slang, an abnormal gait in which one voluntarily walks with a limp or some other physical handicap, the music, or laughable badass posturing.
It's crass, but it works.
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Give the people what they want, and the money will follow.
I keep waiting for the day when mass euthanasia becomes popular...
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Howard has a 5% marriage success rate
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shredz products are very expensive amazes me how me suckers there are out there.
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Howard has a 5% marriage success rate
lolz
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^^ 00:30 - its not marshmellow big, cuts and symmetry - lol :D
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In order to be in Rich's 5% clan you need:
- To be a compulsive liar
- Oil/PMMA injections
- Tats all over your body
- To be a felon/ex-con
Before Rich dies of his self-induced health problems, I predict Rich will screw one of these ex-cons over and get beat down/shot/stabbed by them. That would be fun to watch.
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In order to be in Rich's 5% clan you need:
- To be a compulsive liar
- Oil/PMMA injections
- Tats all over your body
- To be a felon/ex-con
Before Rich dies of his self-induced health problems, I predict Rich will screw one of these ex-cons over and get beat down/shot/stabbed by them. That would be fun to watch.
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Rich will basically tell you his entire cycle, compound by compound. He will tell you he has been gear steady since 1989 with basically no breaks, within ten minutes of meeting him. How does that constitute as being a compulsive liar? What DOESN'T Rich speak on?
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He's a compulsive liar by telling people he's an Athlete.
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people hating on rich piana aint nothing but haters.
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^^ 00:30 - its not marshmellow big, cuts and symmetry - lol :D
For a second there, the thumbnail reminded me of Derek Anthony..... sheesh... :-X
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He can talk reasonably well on various subjects but he's awfully childish and ridiculously vain. Have you seen the video where he talks about being able to tell lots about someone if they wear Nike sneakers instead of Adidas and how if you drive with one hand on the steering wheel it means you're really cool?! The guy seems to have the mind-set of a pretentious 12 year old.
Add his taste for contact lenses and crappy tattoos that he attaches lame meaning to and you have a sad, pathetically fragile ego.
He's acting. It's all part of the work, mark.
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My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
In contrast, take Shredz' Joey Swoll. Makes a ton of money, has a good look that can be maintained for years to come and a solid business and plan.
This is exactly what I've questioned about Piana....no way he can sustain this absurd look indefinitely.
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For a second there, the thumbnail reminded me of Derek Anthony..... sheesh... :-X
Me too :-\
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This thread turns 2years in a couple weeks.. piano alive and star of a movie.. you getbiggers are PATHETIC
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For a second there, the thumbnail reminded me of Derek Anthony..... sheesh... :-X
How many of these turds have the nickname "Big"?
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so not only does one have be successful to get getbig approval you also need to keep being successful indefinitely for getbig approval.
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In order to be in Rich's 5% clan you need:
- To be a compulsive liar
- Oil/PMMA injections
- Tats all over your body
- To be a felon/ex-con
Before Rich dies of his self-induced health problems, I predict Rich will screw one of these ex-cons over and get beat down/shot/stabbed by them. That would be fun to watch.
Didn't this already happen with that "Muslim Truck" fellow?
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5% chance of survival
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Rich will basically tell you his entire cycle, compound by compound. He will tell you he has been gear steady since 1989 with basically no breaks, within ten minutes of meeting him. How does that constitute as being a compulsive liar? What DOESN'T Rich speak on?
Is that you Rich?
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I like Rich.
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Rich will basically tell you his entire cycle, compound by compound. He will tell you he has been gear steady since 1989 with basically no breaks, within ten minutes of meeting him. How does that constitute as being a compulsive liar? What DOESN'T Rich speak on?
He tells half-truths. For instance, he admits having used PMMA but doesn't cover the extent of how much he used/uses it.
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exactly.
rich piana is no good cause he doesnt tell us how much steroids he use, how often he fucks and how much money he got.
he doesnt even videotape when he's taking a shit.
not a honest man by any stretch, seems to have a lot to hide.
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^^ 00:30 - its not marshmellow big, cuts and symmetry - lol :D
Not to put the man down but he has that derek antony organ failure bloatface.
God bless him, stay healthy you big beast muscleman!
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exactly.
rich piana is no good cause he doesnt tell us how much steroids he use, how often he fucks and how much money he got.
he doesnt even videotape when he's taking a shit.
not a honest man by any stretch, seems to have a lot to hide.
I guess this man must be very honest!
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This thread is enough to convince a guy to quit bodybuilding and become a runner.
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0% appeal. Generation Nothingness!
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My business coach and I were talking about this last week. While he may make money now, it's going to be short lived. He's put himself in the position that he can't undo, meaning his body image. He's going to have to find a way to maintain that as he gets older which is next to impossible. His company and him and a couple of years left at best.
In contrast, take Shredz' Joey Swoll. Makes a ton of money, has a good look that can be maintained for years to come and a solid business and plan.
Total cope/jealous post. He likely has enough money to retire with.