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Title: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on July 28, 2015, 04:50:09 PM
Confessions of a Public Defender: Michael Smith, (American Renaissance, May 9, 2014).


I am a public defender in a large southern metropolitan area. Fewer than ten percent of the people in the area I serve are black but over 90 percent of my clients are black. The remaining ten percent are mainly Hispanics but there are a few whites. I have no explanation for why this is, but crime has racial patterns. Hispanics usually commit two kinds of crime: sexual assault on children and driving under the influence. Blacks commit many violent crimes but very few sex crimes. The handful of whites I see commit all kinds of crimes. In my many years as a public defender I have represented only three Asians, and one was half black.

As a young lawyer, I believed the official story that blacks are law abiding, intelligent, family-oriented people, but are so poor they must turn to crime to survive. Actual black behavior was a shock to me. The media invariably sugarcoat black behavior. Even the news reports of the very crimes I dealt with in court were slanted. Television news intentionally leaves out unflattering facts about the accused, and sometimes omits names that are obviously black. All this rocked my liberal, tolerant beliefs, but it took me years to set aside my illusions and accept the reality of what I see every day. I have now served thousands of blacks and their families, protecting their rights and defending them in court. What follow are my observations.

Although blacks are only a small percentage of our community, the courthouse is filled with them: the halls and gallery benches are overflowing with black defendants, families, and crime victims. Most whites with business in court arrive quietly, dress appropriately, and keep their heads down. They get in and get out–if they can–as fast as they can. For blacks, the courthouse is like a carnival. They all seem to know each other: hundreds and hundreds each day, gossiping, laughing loudly, waving, and crowding the halls. When I am appointed to represent a client I introduce myself and explain that I am his lawyer. I explain the court process and my role in it, and I ask the client some basic questions about himself. At this stage, I can tell with great accuracy how people will react.

Hispanics are extremely polite and deferential. An Hispanic will never call me by my first name and will answer my questions directly and with appropriate respect for my position. Whites are similarly respectful. A black man will never call me Mr. Smith; I am always “Mike.” It is not unusual for a 19-year-old black to refer to me as “dog.” A black may mumble complaints about everything I say, and roll his eyes when I politely interrupt so I can continue with my explanation.

Also, everything I say to blacks must be at about the third-grade level. If I slip and use adult language, they get angry because they think I am flaunting my superiority. At the early stages of a case, I explain the process to my clients. I often do not yet have the information in the police reports. Blacks are unable to understand that I do not yet have answers to all of their questions, but that I will by a certain date. They live in the here and the now and are unable to wait for anything. Usually, by the second meeting with the client I have most of the police reports and understand their case.

Public Defender

Unlike people of other races, blacks never see their lawyer as someone who is there to help them. I am a part of the system against which they are waging war. They often explode with anger at me and are quick to blame me for anything that goes wrong in their case. Black men often try to trip me up and challenge my knowledge of the law or the facts of the case. I appreciate sincere questions about the elements of the offense or the sentencing guidelines, but blacks ask questions to test me. Unfortunately, they are almost always wrong in their reading, or understanding, of the law, and this can cause friction. I may repeatedly explain the law, and provide copies of the statute showing, for example, why my client must serve six years if convicted, but he continues to believe that a hand-written note from his “cellie” is controlling law.

The Risks of Trial

The Constitution allows a defendant to make three crucial decisions in his case. He decides whether to plea guilty or not guilty. He decides whether to have a bench trial or a jury trial. He decides whether he will testify or whether he will remain silent. A client who insists on testifying is almost always making a terrible mistake, but I cannot stop him. Most blacks are unable to speak English well. They cannot conjugate verbs. They have a poor grasp of verb tenses. They have a limited vocabulary. They cannot speak without swearing. They often become hostile on the stand. Many, when they testify, show a complete lack of empathy and are unable to conceal a morality based on the satisfaction of immediate, base needs. This is a disaster, especially in a jury trial. Most jurors are white, and are appalled by the demeanor of uneducated, criminal blacks.

Prosecutors are delighted when a black defendant takes the stand. It is like shooting fish in a barrel. However, the defense usually gets to cross-examine the black victim, who is likely to make just as bad an impression on the stand as the defendant. This is an invaluable gift to the defense, because jurors may not convict a defendant—even if they think he is guilty—if they dislike the victim even more than they dislike the defendant. Black witnesses can also sway the jury. Rachel Jeantel: Blacks often make bad witnesses. Most criminal cases do not go to trial. Often the evidence against the accused is overwhelming, and the chances of conviction are high. The defendant is better off with a plea bargain: pleading guilty to a lesser charge and getting a lighter sentence. The decision to plea to a lesser charge turns on the strength of the evidence.

When blacks ask the ultimate question—”Will we win at trial?”—I tell them I cannot know, but I then describe the strengths and weaknesses of our case. The weaknesses are usually obvious: There are five eyewitnesses against you. Or, you made a confession to both the detective and your grandmother. They found you in possession of a pink cell phone with a case that has rhinestones spelling the name of the victim of the robbery. There is a video of the murderer wearing the same shirt you were wearing when you were arrested, which has the words “In Da Houz” on the back, not to mention you have the same “RIP Pookie 7/4/12” tattoo on your neck as the man in the video. Etc. If you tell a black man that the evidence is very harmful to his case, he will blame you. “You ain’t workin’ fo’ me.” “It like you workin’ with da State.” Every public defender hears this.

The more you try to explain the evidence to a black man, the angrier he gets. It is my firm belief many blacks are unable to discuss the evidence against them rationally because they cannot view things from the perspective of others. They simply cannot understand how the facts in the case will appear to a jury.

Upset

This inability to see things from someone else’s perspective helps explain why there are so many black criminals. They do not understand the pain they are inflicting on others. One of my robbery clients is a good example. He and two co-defendants walked into a small store run by two young women. All three men were wearing masks. They drew handguns and ordered the women into a back room. One man beat a girl with his gun. The second man stood over the second girl while the third man emptied the cash register. All of this was on video.

My client was the one who beat the girl. When he asked me, “What are our chances at trial?” I said, “Not so good.” He immediately got angry, raised his voice, and accused me of working with the prosecution. I asked him how he thought a jury would react to the video. “They don’t care,” he said. I told him the jury would probably feel deeply sympathetic towards these two women and would be angry at him because of how he treated them. I asked him whether he felt bad for the women he had beaten and terrorized. He told me what I suspected what too many blacks say about the suffering of others: “What do I care? She ain’t me. She ain’t kin. Don’t even know her.” No Remorse. No fathers.

As a public defender, I have learned many things about people. One is that defendants do not have fathers. If a black even knows the name of his father, he knows of him only as a shadowy person with whom he has absolutely no ties. When a client is sentenced, I often beg for mercy on the grounds that the defendant did not have a father and never had a chance in life. I have often tracked down the man’s father–in jail–and have brought him to the sentencing hearing to testify that he never knew his son and never lifted a finger to help him. Often, this is the first time my client has ever met his father. These meetings are utterly unemotional.

Where's Daddy?

Many black defendants don’t even have mothers who care about them. Many are raised by grandmothers after the state removes the children from an incompetent teenaged mother. Many of these mothers and grandmothers are mentally unstable, and are completely disconnected from the realities they face in court and in life.

A 47-year-old grandmother will deny that her grandson has gang ties even though his forehead is tattooed with a gang sign or slogan. When I point this out in as kind and understanding way as I can, she screams at me. When black women start screaming, they invoke the name of Jesus and shout swear words in the same breath. Black women have great faith in God, but they have a twisted understanding of His role. They do not pray for strength or courage. They pray for results: the satisfaction of immediate needs.

One of my clients was a black woman who prayed in a circle with her accomplices for God’s protection from the police before they would set out to commit a robbery. The mothers and grandmothers pray in the hallways not for justice, but for acquittal. When I explain that the evidence that their beloved child murdered the shop keeper is overwhelming, and that he should accept the very fair plea bargain I have negotiated, they will tell me that he is going to trial and will “ride with the Lord.” They tell me they speak to God every day and He assures them that the young man will be acquitted.

Christians

The mothers and grandmothers do not seem to be able to imagine and understand the consequences of going to trial and losing. Some and this is a shocking reality it took me a long time to grasp don’t really care what happens to the client, but want to make it look as though they care. This means pounding their chests in righteous indignation, and insisting on going to trial despite terrible evidence. They refuse to listen to the one person–me–who has the knowledge to make the best recommendation. These people soon lose interest in the case, and stop showing up after about the third or fourth court date. It is then easier for me to convince the client to act in his own best interests and accept a plea agreement.

Part of the problem is that underclass black women begin having babies at age 15. They continue to have babies, with different black men, until they have had five or six. These women do not go to school. They do not work. They are not ashamed to live on public money. They plan their entire lives around the expectation that they will always get free money and never have to work. I do not see this among whites, Hispanics, or any other people.

The black men who become my clients also do not work. They get social security disability payments for a mental defect or for a vague and invisible physical ailment. They do not pay for anything: not for housing (Grandma lives on welfare and he lives with her), not for food (Grandma and the baby-momma share with him), and not for child support. When I learn that my 19-year-old defendant does not work or go to school, I ask, “What do you do all day?” He smiles. “You know, just chill.” These men live in a culture with no expectations, no demands, and no shame.

If you tell a black to dress properly for trial, and don’t give specific instructions, he will arrive in wildly inappropriate clothes. I represented a woman who was on trial for drugs; she wore a baseball cap with a marijuana leaf embroidered on it. I represented a man who wore a shirt that read “rules are for suckers” to his probation hearing. Our office provides suits, shirts, ties, and dresses for clients to wear for jury trials. Often, it takes a whole team of lawyers to persuade a black to wear a shirt and tie instead of gang colors.


Marijuana

From time to time the media report that although blacks are 12 percent of the population they are 40 percent of the prison population. This is supposed to be an outrage that results from unfair treatment by the criminal justice system. What the media only hint at is another staggering reality: recidivism. Black men are arrested and convicted over and over. It is typical for a black man to have five felony convictions before the age of 30. This kind of record is rare among whites and Hispanics, and probably even rarer among Asians. [Stats Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics].

At one time our office was looking for a motto that defined our philosophy. Someone joked that it should be: “Doesn’t everyone deserve an eleventh chance?” I am a liberal. I believe that those of us who are able to produce abundance have a moral duty to provide basic food, shelter, and medical care for those who cannot care for themselves. I believe we have this duty even to those who can care for themselves but don’t. This world view requires compassion and a willingness to act on it.

My experience has taught me that we live in a nation in which a jury is more likely to convict a black defendant who has committed a crime against a white. Even the dullest of blacks know this. There would be a lot more black-on-white crime if this were not the case. However, my experience has also taught me that blacks are different by almost any measure to all other people. They cannot reason as well. They cannot communicate as well. They cannot control their impulses as well. They are a threat to all who cross their paths, black and non-black alike.

I do not know the solution to this problem. I do know that it is wrong to deceive the public. Whatever solutions we seek should be based on the truth rather than what we would prefer was the truth. As for myself, I will continue do my duty to protect the rights of all who need me.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
First thing I noticed: Asians don't commit crimes.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on July 28, 2015, 05:00:37 PM
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Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: SF1900 on July 28, 2015, 05:00:51 PM
Wow, TA started another thread about..................
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2015, 05:06:38 PM
Damn. That was one hell of a statement by the attorney...


"However, my experience has also taught me that blacks are different by almost any measure to all other people. They cannot reason as well. They cannot communicate as well. They cannot control their impulses as well. They are a threat to all who cross their paths, black and non-black alike."
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 28, 2015, 05:11:38 PM
This reminds me of that article written by the teacher in Alabama, who spoke about his classes that were filled with mostly blacks and how they acted. Not sure if either are true.

That said, I am not so sure it is something in their evolution, more so that their system is broke. It all starts with the judeo Christian family structure etc. Two parents, who care for their children and try and make the best of it. For whatever reason, about 50 years ago or so, the black family unit fell apart, and has turned into a hole they can't climb out of. It's like debt, once it gets ahold of you, it's hard to get out. Read the Moynihan Report. It was written in the 60's and outlines this very problem. Although, if you listen to Another View on NPR, they'd have you believe black fathers are more involved than white fathers.

Asians seem to be the best behaved folks on the planet.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on July 28, 2015, 05:12:40 PM
This reminds me of that article written by the teacher in Alabama, who spoke about his classes that were filled with mostly blacks and how they acted. Not sure if either are true.

That said, I am not so sure it is something in their evolution, more so that their system is broke. It all starts with the judeo Christian family structure etc. Two parents, who care for their children and try and make the best of it. For whatever reason, about 50 years ago or so, the black family unit fell apart, and has turned into a hole they can't climb out of. It's like debt, once it gets ahold of you, it's hard to get out. Read the Moynihan Report. It was written in the 60's and outlines this very problem. Although, if you listen to Another View on NPR, they'd have you believe black fathers are more involved than white fathers.

Asians seem to be the best behaved folks on the planet.
They are the most Christian, religious and superstitious of any group though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2015, 05:16:21 PM
They are the most Christian, religious and superstitious of any group though.

The lawyer said that black women are religious.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 28, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
They are the most Christian, religious and superstitious of any group though.

I will agree they are superstitious, most are not Christian but are Unitarian. More spiritual than religious. From what I gather from the article, they don't like organization too much. Organized religion is a way to keep the masses in check, probably why they adhere to neither.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on July 28, 2015, 05:23:36 PM
I will agree they are superstitious, most are not Christian but are Unitarian. More spiritual than religious. From what I gather from the article, they don't like organization too much. Organized religion is a way to keep the masses in check, probably why they adhere to neither.
Bullshit.  Most go to Christian churches.  They are very Christian and very religious and nearly all believe in Jesus Christ. You obviously never have been around any or know any of their families.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 28, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
Bullshit.  Most go to Christian churches.  They are very Christian and very religious and nearly all believe in Jesus Christ. You obviously never have been around any or know any of their families.

You're right in everything you just said right there.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 28, 2015, 05:37:18 PM
Confessions of a Public Defender: Michael Smith, (American Renaissance, May 9, 2014).


I am a public defender in a large southern metropolitan area. Fewer than ten percent of the people in the area I serve are black but over 90 percent of my clients are black. The remaining ten percent are mainly Hispanics but there are a few whites. I have no explanation for why this is, but crime has racial patterns. Hispanics usually commit two kinds of crime: sexual assault on children and driving under the influence. Blacks commit many violent crimes but very few sex crimes. The handful of whites I see commit all kinds of crimes. In my many years as a public defender I have represented only three Asians, and one was half black.

As a young lawyer, I believed the official story that blacks are law abiding, intelligent, family-oriented people, but are so poor they must turn to crime to survive. Actual black behavior was a shock to me. The media invariably sugarcoat black behavior. Even the news reports of the very crimes I dealt with in court were slanted. Television news intentionally leaves out unflattering facts about the accused, and sometimes omits names that are obviously black. All this rocked my liberal, tolerant beliefs, but it took me years to set aside my illusions and accept the reality of what I see every day. I have now served thousands of blacks and their families, protecting their rights and defending them in court. What follow are my observations.

Although blacks are only a small percentage of our community, the courthouse is filled with them: the halls and gallery benches are overflowing with black defendants, families, and crime victims. Most whites with business in court arrive quietly, dress appropriately, and keep their heads down. They get in and get out–if they can–as fast as they can. For blacks, the courthouse is like a carnival. They all seem to know each other: hundreds and hundreds each day, gossiping, laughing loudly, waving, and crowding the halls. When I am appointed to represent a client I introduce myself and explain that I am his lawyer. I explain the court process and my role in it, and I ask the client some basic questions about himself. At this stage, I can tell with great accuracy how people will react.

Hispanics are extremely polite and deferential. An Hispanic will never call me by my first name and will answer my questions directly and with appropriate respect for my position. Whites are similarly respectful. A black man will never call me Mr. Smith; I am always “Mike.” It is not unusual for a 19-year-old black to refer to me as “dog.” A black may mumble complaints about everything I say, and roll his eyes when I politely interrupt so I can continue with my explanation.

Also, everything I say to blacks must be at about the third-grade level. If I slip and use adult language, they get angry because they think I am flaunting my superiority. At the early stages of a case, I explain the process to my clients. I often do not yet have the information in the police reports. Blacks are unable to understand that I do not yet have answers to all of their questions, but that I will by a certain date. They live in the here and the now and are unable to wait for anything. Usually, by the second meeting with the client I have most of the police reports and understand their case.

Public Defender

Unlike people of other races, blacks never see their lawyer as someone who is there to help them. I am a part of the system against which they are waging war. They often explode with anger at me and are quick to blame me for anything that goes wrong in their case. Black men often try to trip me up and challenge my knowledge of the law or the facts of the case. I appreciate sincere questions about the elements of the offense or the sentencing guidelines, but blacks ask questions to test me. Unfortunately, they are almost always wrong in their reading, or understanding, of the law, and this can cause friction. I may repeatedly explain the law, and provide copies of the statute showing, for example, why my client must serve six years if convicted, but he continues to believe that a hand-written note from his “cellie” is controlling law.

The Risks of Trial

The Constitution allows a defendant to make three crucial decisions in his case. He decides whether to plea guilty or not guilty. He decides whether to have a bench trial or a jury trial. He decides whether he will testify or whether he will remain silent. A client who insists on testifying is almost always making a terrible mistake, but I cannot stop him. Most blacks are unable to speak English well. They cannot conjugate verbs. They have a poor grasp of verb tenses. They have a limited vocabulary. They cannot speak without swearing. They often become hostile on the stand. Many, when they testify, show a complete lack of empathy and are unable to conceal a morality based on the satisfaction of immediate, base needs. This is a disaster, especially in a jury trial. Most jurors are white, and are appalled by the demeanor of uneducated, criminal blacks.

Prosecutors are delighted when a black defendant takes the stand. It is like shooting fish in a barrel. However, the defense usually gets to cross-examine the black victim, who is likely to make just as bad an impression on the stand as the defendant. This is an invaluable gift to the defense, because jurors may not convict a defendant—even if they think he is guilty—if they dislike the victim even more than they dislike the defendant. Black witnesses can also sway the jury. Rachel Jeantel: Blacks often make bad witnesses. Most criminal cases do not go to trial. Often the evidence against the accused is overwhelming, and the chances of conviction are high. The defendant is better off with a plea bargain: pleading guilty to a lesser charge and getting a lighter sentence. The decision to plea to a lesser charge turns on the strength of the evidence.

When blacks ask the ultimate question—”Will we win at trial?”—I tell them I cannot know, but I then describe the strengths and weaknesses of our case. The weaknesses are usually obvious: There are five eyewitnesses against you. Or, you made a confession to both the detective and your grandmother. They found you in possession of a pink cell phone with a case that has rhinestones spelling the name of the victim of the robbery. There is a video of the murderer wearing the same shirt you were wearing when you were arrested, which has the words “In Da Houz” on the back, not to mention you have the same “RIP Pookie 7/4/12” tattoo on your neck as the man in the video. Etc. If you tell a black man that the evidence is very harmful to his case, he will blame you. “You ain’t workin’ fo’ me.” “It like you workin’ with da State.” Every public defender hears this.

The more you try to explain the evidence to a black man, the angrier he gets. It is my firm belief many blacks are unable to discuss the evidence against them rationally because they cannot view things from the perspective of others. They simply cannot understand how the facts in the case will appear to a jury.

Upset

This inability to see things from someone else’s perspective helps explain why there are so many black criminals. They do not understand the pain they are inflicting on others. One of my robbery clients is a good example. He and two co-defendants walked into a small store run by two young women. All three men were wearing masks. They drew handguns and ordered the women into a back room. One man beat a girl with his gun. The second man stood over the second girl while the third man emptied the cash register. All of this was on video.

My client was the one who beat the girl. When he asked me, “What are our chances at trial?” I said, “Not so good.” He immediately got angry, raised his voice, and accused me of working with the prosecution. I asked him how he thought a jury would react to the video. “They don’t care,” he said. I told him the jury would probably feel deeply sympathetic towards these two women and would be angry at him because of how he treated them. I asked him whether he felt bad for the women he had beaten and terrorized. He told me what I suspected what too many blacks say about the suffering of others: “What do I care? She ain’t me. She ain’t kin. Don’t even know her.” No Remorse. No fathers.

As a public defender, I have learned many things about people. One is that defendants do not have fathers. If a black even knows the name of his father, he knows of him only as a shadowy person with whom he has absolutely no ties. When a client is sentenced, I often beg for mercy on the grounds that the defendant did not have a father and never had a chance in life. I have often tracked down the man’s father–in jail–and have brought him to the sentencing hearing to testify that he never knew his son and never lifted a finger to help him. Often, this is the first time my client has ever met his father. These meetings are utterly unemotional.

Where's Daddy?

Many black defendants don’t even have mothers who care about them. Many are raised by grandmothers after the state removes the children from an incompetent teenaged mother. Many of these mothers and grandmothers are mentally unstable, and are completely disconnected from the realities they face in court and in life.

A 47-year-old grandmother will deny that her grandson has gang ties even though his forehead is tattooed with a gang sign or slogan. When I point this out in as kind and understanding way as I can, she screams at me. When black women start screaming, they invoke the name of Jesus and shout swear words in the same breath. Black women have great faith in God, but they have a twisted understanding of His role. They do not pray for strength or courage. They pray for results: the satisfaction of immediate needs.

One of my clients was a black woman who prayed in a circle with her accomplices for God’s protection from the police before they would set out to commit a robbery. The mothers and grandmothers pray in the hallways not for justice, but for acquittal. When I explain that the evidence that their beloved child murdered the shop keeper is overwhelming, and that he should accept the very fair plea bargain I have negotiated, they will tell me that he is going to trial and will “ride with the Lord.” They tell me they speak to God every day and He assures them that the young man will be acquitted.

Christians

The mothers and grandmothers do not seem to be able to imagine and understand the consequences of going to trial and losing. Some and this is a shocking reality it took me a long time to grasp don’t really care what happens to the client, but want to make it look as though they care. This means pounding their chests in righteous indignation, and insisting on going to trial despite terrible evidence. They refuse to listen to the one person–me–who has the knowledge to make the best recommendation. These people soon lose interest in the case, and stop showing up after about the third or fourth court date. It is then easier for me to convince the client to act in his own best interests and accept a plea agreement.

Part of the problem is that underclass black women begin having babies at age 15. They continue to have babies, with different black men, until they have had five or six. These women do not go to school. They do not work. They are not ashamed to live on public money. They plan their entire lives around the expectation that they will always get free money and never have to work. I do not see this among whites, Hispanics, or any other people.

The black men who become my clients also do not work. They get social security disability payments for a mental defect or for a vague and invisible physical ailment. They do not pay for anything: not for housing (Grandma lives on welfare and he lives with her), not for food (Grandma and the baby-momma share with him), and not for child support. When I learn that my 19-year-old defendant does not work or go to school, I ask, “What do you do all day?” He smiles. “You know, just chill.” These men live in a culture with no expectations, no demands, and no shame.

If you tell a black to dress properly for trial, and don’t give specific instructions, he will arrive in wildly inappropriate clothes. I represented a woman who was on trial for drugs; she wore a baseball cap with a marijuana leaf embroidered on it. I represented a man who wore a shirt that read “rules are for suckers” to his probation hearing. Our office provides suits, shirts, ties, and dresses for clients to wear for jury trials. Often, it takes a whole team of lawyers to persuade a black to wear a shirt and tie instead of gang colors.


Marijuana

From time to time the media report that although blacks are 12 percent of the population they are 40 percent of the prison population. This is supposed to be an outrage that results from unfair treatment by the criminal justice system. What the media only hint at is another staggering reality: recidivism. Black men are arrested and convicted over and over. It is typical for a black man to have five felony convictions before the age of 30. This kind of record is rare among whites and Hispanics, and probably even rarer among Asians. [Stats Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics].

At one time our office was looking for a motto that defined our philosophy. Someone joked that it should be: “Doesn’t everyone deserve an eleventh chance?” I am a liberal. I believe that those of us who are able to produce abundance have a moral duty to provide basic food, shelter, and medical care for those who cannot care for themselves. I believe we have this duty even to those who can care for themselves but don’t. This world view requires compassion and a willingness to act on it.

My experience has taught me that we live in a nation in which a jury is more likely to convict a black defendant who has committed a crime against a white. Even the dullest of blacks know this. There would be a lot more black-on-white crime if this were not the case. However, my experience has also taught me that blacks are different by almost any measure to all other people. They cannot reason as well. They cannot communicate as well. They cannot control their impulses as well. They are a threat to all who cross their paths, black and non-black alike.

I do not know the solution to this problem. I do know that it is wrong to deceive the public. Whatever solutions we seek should be based on the truth rather than what we would prefer was the truth. As for myself, I will continue do my duty to protect the rights of all who need me.



People go to jail and prison because poor people are always at a disadvantage.  Public Defenders care more about closing out files than actually helping clients and justice cost a lot of money....also people who are public defenders are usually the bottom of the barrel in the law....basically the ones who went to a shitty school, made shitty grades, and barely passed the bar.


In America, prisons are about making money...not punishing criminals.  Has nothing to do with blacks and whites, its just the way it is.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Coffeed on July 28, 2015, 05:40:08 PM
Chef Michael Smith?
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Dave D on July 28, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
  ::)

This "public defender" happen to make a sex tape with Bubba the Love Sponge's wife?


Undoubtedly  there is truth to some of his observations, but what would constitute  a "typical black man with 5 felonies  before 30"? Is it someone who lives in a certain  neighborhood, or does he mean it's typical  of his clients?


*I heard an interesting  take on the failure  of black families, in essence they never existed in  the traditional  sense. When Africans came here they came as property, were breed and sold. The mothers would typically  keep the children until they were of age to be sold, so the initial family structure has always been disjointed (obviously  there was much more to it than just this,  but the key point is made).

That said I get that sterotypes exist for a reason.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on July 28, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
  ::)

This "public defender" happen to make a sex tape with Bubba the Love Sponge's wife?


Undoubtedly  there is truth to some of his observations, but what would constitute  a "typical black man with 5 felonies  before 30"? Is it someone who lives in a certain  neighborhood, or does he mean it's typical  of his clients?


*I heard an interesting  take on the failure  of black families, in essence they never existed in  the traditional  sense. When Africans came here they came as property, were breed and sold. The mothers would typically  keep the children until they were of age to be sold, so the initial family structure has always been disjointed (obviously  there was much more to it than just this,  but the key point is made).

That said I get that sterotypes exist for a reason.
Totally not true.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Marty Champions on July 29, 2015, 11:47:55 AM
Morality

If one lacks morality and resposibility as a parent the family falls apart down the shitter
Blacks go to the church but the church cant always change you habits
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 29, 2015, 11:53:52 AM
Totally not true.

I'm glad you cleared that up  ::) your argument to the contrary was concise well thought out and presented all the necessary facts to support your position. Oh wait  ::)

Fucking clown

" Totally not true "  ::)
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: forillagorilla on July 29, 2015, 02:40:20 PM
I think its very obvious why TA has risen to such prominence in his chosen profession.

How could a man as wise as TA not be at the height of success?? 

TA - what is your profession again?    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 29, 2015, 03:58:09 PM
All these white parents who allow their underage daughters to date outside their race because that's what the media is telling them to do, get what they deserve. A white girl is better off being brought up without a father if her father lets her date thugs and have kids with thugs.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: illuminati on July 29, 2015, 04:46:25 PM
Confessions of a Public Defender: Michael Smith, (American Renaissance, May 9, 2014).


I am a public defender in a large southern metropolitan area. Fewer than ten percent of the people in the area I serve are black but over 90 percent of my clients are black. The remaining ten percent are mainly Hispanics but there are a few whites. I have no explanation for why this is, but crime has racial patterns. Hispanics usually commit two kinds of crime: sexual assault on children and driving under the influence. Blacks commit many violent crimes but very few sex crimes. The handful of whites I see commit all kinds of crimes. In my many years as a public defender I have represented only three Asians, and one was half black.

As a young lawyer, I believed the official story that blacks are law abiding, intelligent, family-oriented people, but are so poor they must turn to crime to survive. Actual black behavior was a shock to me. The media invariably sugarcoat black behavior. Even the news reports of the very crimes I dealt with in court were slanted. Television news intentionally leaves out unflattering facts about the accused, and sometimes omits names that are obviously black. All this rocked my liberal, tolerant beliefs, but it took me years to set aside my illusions and accept the reality of what I see every day. I have now served thousands of blacks and their families, protecting their rights and defending them in court. What follow are my observations.

Although blacks are only a small percentage of our community, the courthouse is filled with them: the halls and gallery benches are overflowing with black defendants, families, and crime victims. Most whites with business in court arrive quietly, dress appropriately, and keep their heads down. They get in and get out–if they can–as fast as they can. For blacks, the courthouse is like a carnival. They all seem to know each other: hundreds and hundreds each day, gossiping, laughing loudly, waving, and crowding the halls. When I am appointed to represent a client I introduce myself and explain that I am his lawyer. I explain the court process and my role in it, and I ask the client some basic questions about himself. At this stage, I can tell with great accuracy how people will react.

Hispanics are extremely polite and deferential. An Hispanic will never call me by my first name and will answer my questions directly and with appropriate respect for my position. Whites are similarly respectful. A black man will never call me Mr. Smith; I am always “Mike.” It is not unusual for a 19-year-old black to refer to me as “dog.” A black may mumble complaints about everything I say, and roll his eyes when I politely interrupt so I can continue with my explanation.

Also, everything I say to blacks must be at about the third-grade level. If I slip and use adult language, they get angry because they think I am flaunting my superiority. At the early stages of a case, I explain the process to my clients. I often do not yet have the information in the police reports. Blacks are unable to understand that I do not yet have answers to all of their questions, but that I will by a certain date. They live in the here and the now and are unable to wait for anything. Usually, by the second meeting with the client I have most of the police reports and understand their case.

Public Defender

Unlike people of other races, blacks never see their lawyer as someone who is there to help them. I am a part of the system against which they are waging war. They often explode with anger at me and are quick to blame me for anything that goes wrong in their case. Black men often try to trip me up and challenge my knowledge of the law or the facts of the case. I appreciate sincere questions about the elements of the offense or the sentencing guidelines, but blacks ask questions to test me. Unfortunately, they are almost always wrong in their reading, or understanding, of the law, and this can cause friction. I may repeatedly explain the law, and provide copies of the statute showing, for example, why my client must serve six years if convicted, but he continues to believe that a hand-written note from his “cellie” is controlling law.

The Risks of Trial

The Constitution allows a defendant to make three crucial decisions in his case. He decides whether to plea guilty or not guilty. He decides whether to have a bench trial or a jury trial. He decides whether he will testify or whether he will remain silent. A client who insists on testifying is almost always making a terrible mistake, but I cannot stop him. Most blacks are unable to speak English well. They cannot conjugate verbs. They have a poor grasp of verb tenses. They have a limited vocabulary. They cannot speak without swearing. They often become hostile on the stand. Many, when they testify, show a complete lack of empathy and are unable to conceal a morality based on the satisfaction of immediate, base needs. This is a disaster, especially in a jury trial. Most jurors are white, and are appalled by the demeanor of uneducated, criminal blacks.

Prosecutors are delighted when a black defendant takes the stand. It is like shooting fish in a barrel. However, the defense usually gets to cross-examine the black victim, who is likely to make just as bad an impression on the stand as the defendant. This is an invaluable gift to the defense, because jurors may not convict a defendant—even if they think he is guilty—if they dislike the victim even more than they dislike the defendant. Black witnesses can also sway the jury. Rachel Jeantel: Blacks often make bad witnesses. Most criminal cases do not go to trial. Often the evidence against the accused is overwhelming, and the chances of conviction are high. The defendant is better off with a plea bargain: pleading guilty to a lesser charge and getting a lighter sentence. The decision to plea to a lesser charge turns on the strength of the evidence.

When blacks ask the ultimate question—”Will we win at trial?”—I tell them I cannot know, but I then describe the strengths and weaknesses of our case. The weaknesses are usually obvious: There are five eyewitnesses against you. Or, you made a confession to both the detective and your grandmother. They found you in possession of a pink cell phone with a case that has rhinestones spelling the name of the victim of the robbery. There is a video of the murderer wearing the same shirt you were wearing when you were arrested, which has the words “In Da Houz” on the back, not to mention you have the same “RIP Pookie 7/4/12” tattoo on your neck as the man in the video. Etc. If you tell a black man that the evidence is very harmful to his case, he will blame you. “You ain’t workin’ fo’ me.” “It like you workin’ with da State.” Every public defender hears this.

The more you try to explain the evidence to a black man, the angrier he gets. It is my firm belief many blacks are unable to discuss the evidence against them rationally because they cannot view things from the perspective of others. They simply cannot understand how the facts in the case will appear to a jury.

Upset

This inability to see things from someone else’s perspective helps explain why there are so many black criminals. They do not understand the pain they are inflicting on others. One of my robbery clients is a good example. He and two co-defendants walked into a small store run by two young women. All three men were wearing masks. They drew handguns and ordered the women into a back room. One man beat a girl with his gun. The second man stood over the second girl while the third man emptied the cash register. All of this was on video.

My client was the one who beat the girl. When he asked me, “What are our chances at trial?” I said, “Not so good.” He immediately got angry, raised his voice, and accused me of working with the prosecution. I asked him how he thought a jury would react to the video. “They don’t care,” he said. I told him the jury would probably feel deeply sympathetic towards these two women and would be angry at him because of how he treated them. I asked him whether he felt bad for the women he had beaten and terrorized. He told me what I suspected what too many blacks say about the suffering of others: “What do I care? She ain’t me. She ain’t kin. Don’t even know her.” No Remorse. No fathers.

As a public defender, I have learned many things about people. One is that defendants do not have fathers. If a black even knows the name of his father, he knows of him only as a shadowy person with whom he has absolutely no ties. When a client is sentenced, I often beg for mercy on the grounds that the defendant did not have a father and never had a chance in life. I have often tracked down the man’s father–in jail–and have brought him to the sentencing hearing to testify that he never knew his son and never lifted a finger to help him. Often, this is the first time my client has ever met his father. These meetings are utterly unemotional.

Where's Daddy?

Many black defendants don’t even have mothers who care about them. Many are raised by grandmothers after the state removes the children from an incompetent teenaged mother. Many of these mothers and grandmothers are mentally unstable, and are completely disconnected from the realities they face in court and in life.

A 47-year-old grandmother will deny that her grandson has gang ties even though his forehead is tattooed with a gang sign or slogan. When I point this out in as kind and understanding way as I can, she screams at me. When black women start screaming, they invoke the name of Jesus and shout swear words in the same breath. Black women have great faith in God, but they have a twisted understanding of His role. They do not pray for strength or courage. They pray for results: the satisfaction of immediate needs.

One of my clients was a black woman who prayed in a circle with her accomplices for God’s protection from the police before they would set out to commit a robbery. The mothers and grandmothers pray in the hallways not for justice, but for acquittal. When I explain that the evidence that their beloved child murdered the shop keeper is overwhelming, and that he should accept the very fair plea bargain I have negotiated, they will tell me that he is going to trial and will “ride with the Lord.” They tell me they speak to God every day and He assures them that the young man will be acquitted.

Christians

The mothers and grandmothers do not seem to be able to imagine and understand the consequences of going to trial and losing. Some and this is a shocking reality it took me a long time to grasp don’t really care what happens to the client, but want to make it look as though they care. This means pounding their chests in righteous indignation, and insisting on going to trial despite terrible evidence. They refuse to listen to the one person–me–who has the knowledge to make the best recommendation. These people soon lose interest in the case, and stop showing up after about the third or fourth court date. It is then easier for me to convince the client to act in his own best interests and accept a plea agreement.

Part of the problem is that underclass black women begin having babies at age 15. They continue to have babies, with different black men, until they have had five or six. These women do not go to school. They do not work. They are not ashamed to live on public money. They plan their entire lives around the expectation that they will always get free money and never have to work. I do not see this among whites, Hispanics, or any other people.

The black men who become my clients also do not work. They get social security disability payments for a mental defect or for a vague and invisible physical ailment. They do not pay for anything: not for housing (Grandma lives on welfare and he lives with her), not for food (Grandma and the baby-momma share with him), and not for child support. When I learn that my 19-year-old defendant does not work or go to school, I ask, “What do you do all day?” He smiles. “You know, just chill.” These men live in a culture with no expectations, no demands, and no shame.

If you tell a black to dress properly for trial, and don’t give specific instructions, he will arrive in wildly inappropriate clothes. I represented a woman who was on trial for drugs; she wore a baseball cap with a marijuana leaf embroidered on it. I represented a man who wore a shirt that read “rules are for suckers” to his probation hearing. Our office provides suits, shirts, ties, and dresses for clients to wear for jury trials. Often, it takes a whole team of lawyers to persuade a black to wear a shirt and tie instead of gang colors.


Marijuana

From time to time the media report that although blacks are 12 percent of the population they are 40 percent of the prison population. This is supposed to be an outrage that results from unfair treatment by the criminal justice system. What the media only hint at is another staggering reality: recidivism. Black men are arrested and convicted over and over. It is typical for a black man to have five felony convictions before the age of 30. This kind of record is rare among whites and Hispanics, and probably even rarer among Asians. [Stats Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics].

At one time our office was looking for a motto that defined our philosophy. Someone joked that it should be: “Doesn’t everyone deserve an eleventh chance?” I am a liberal. I believe that those of us who are able to produce abundance have a moral duty to provide basic food, shelter, and medical care for those who cannot care for themselves. I believe we have this duty even to those who can care for themselves but don’t. This world view requires compassion and a willingness to act on it.

My experience has taught me that we live in a nation in which a jury is more likely to convict a black defendant who has committed a crime against a white. Even the dullest of blacks know this. There would be a lot more black-on-white crime if this were not the case. However, my experience has also taught me that blacks are different by almost any measure to all other people. They cannot reason as well. They cannot communicate as well. They cannot control their impulses as well. They are a threat to all who cross their paths, black and non-black alike.

I do not know the solution to this problem. I do know that it is wrong to deceive the public. Whatever solutions we seek should be based on the truth rather than what we would prefer was the truth. As for myself, I will continue do my duty to protect the rights of all who need me.















One mans expirence & views.
It doesn't make for good reading, especially if your a black person.
A lot of hard hitting truths in there though,
Even if the lawyer is slightly jaded by his experiences.

It's long been said & know there are differences in blacks & whites
We should be addressing these together as a society for the benefit of all.
Even if it means being blunt & honest in the long run it will be worth it.

This crap we are all equal there are no differences is hurting everyone.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 29, 2015, 05:44:11 PM
While it doesn't affect the accuracy of the information, I'm curious if this was written by an actual public defender.  You know...Is this piece of writing what it claims to be?

The part I found particularly interesting is something that rarely gets talked about.....impulse control.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Royalty on July 29, 2015, 05:49:03 PM

People go to jail and prison because poor people are always at a disadvantage.  Public Defenders care more about closing out files than actually helping clients and justice cost a lot of money....also people who are public defenders are usually the bottom of the barrel in the law....basically the ones who went to a shitty school, made shitty grades, and barely passed the bar.


In America, prisons are about making money...not punishing criminals.  Has nothing to do with blacks and whites, its just the way it is.

I think that young lawyers may start out as public defenders; but eventually they look to work for the district attorney

This particular public defender sounds like he now should be looking to start his own practice; apply for a job at a small law firm, or try to get hired at the DA's office.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 29, 2015, 05:50:10 PM













One mans expirence & views.
It doesn't make for good reading, especially if your a black person.
A lot of hard hitting truths in there though,
Even if the lawyer is slightly jaded by his experiences.

It's long been said & know there are differences in blacks & whites
We should be addressing these together as a society for the benefit of all.
Even if it means being blunt & honest in the long run it will be worth it.

This crap we are all equal there are no differences is hurting everyone.


The lottery we call birth. Had I been born black, I'd hate to hear all of this crap.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: illuminati on July 29, 2015, 06:44:49 PM

The lottery we call birth. Had I been born black, I'd hate to hear all of this crap.













True.
I wouldn't like to read it either if I was black.
Didn't particularly make for fun reading as a white man.
It Doesn't change the problems though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: K1RB on July 30, 2015, 07:52:29 AM
Yes, it sucks to read if you are black.
But, sometimes the truth hurts.
If any of you caucasian getbiggers have ever spent time in jail, you would know first hand this man writes the truth.
Years ago I had to spend approx 8 weeks in a detention center , where you have all levels of offenders passing through, either awaiting trial or being transported to another facility. For those of you not in the know, "detention center " is legalese for temporary maximum security prison.
What I observed first hand left a lasting impression on me.
In my block, there were 5-6 white guys, and approx 80-85 black.
Besides hearing the "N" word approx 400-500 times a day, the thing that struck me as being most odd is that the black guys did not mind being there. They embraced it as if it was one big party.
 Countless times I heard" I cant wait to get to a yard " meaning that drugs flow more freely at a penitentiary.
I observed blacks stealing extra toiletry supplies and food,  gambling, constantly cutting the food lines etc.
Never once did I see a white person do this.
Another observance was that black people were always 10x louder than white people.
Everything they did was exaggerated, whether it was telling a story, laughing , or complaining about something.
On the personal side, I was truly pissed because I had to wear a jumpsuit...the reason for this?
Because  black guys in prison refused to pull up there pants.
Yes, it was my fault that I had the experience that I did, and I owned it since day one, never blaming anyone.
That being said, having witnessed what I did, I can make the observation that most black folks are fundamentally different than white folks. Not in a good or bad way, just different-
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: mr.turbo on July 30, 2015, 08:19:14 AM
Self-described as "the Internet's premier race-realist site",[23] American Renaissance has been termed a white supremacist publication by the Anti-Defamation League[24] and by Elspeth Reeve of The Atlantic Wire.[25] It was designated a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[26]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Renaissance_(magazine)

 ???
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: _bruce_ on July 30, 2015, 08:53:09 AM
Wonder why whites flee minorities and their alien hell holes?

Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: _aj_ on July 30, 2015, 08:55:51 AM
Self-described as "the Internet's premier race-realist site",[23] American Renaissance has been termed a white supremacist publication by the Anti-Defamation League[24] and by Elspeth Reeve of The Atlantic Wire.[25] It was designated a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[26]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Renaissance_(magazine)

 ???

The SPLC is hardly authoritative on this subject. They've labeled every non-progressive organization as a "hate group"  ::)
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: SF1900 on July 30, 2015, 09:02:13 AM
The SPLC is hardly authoritative on this subject. They've labeled every non-progressive organization as a "hate group"  ::)

haha lol. youre in every single progessive liberal thread ha lol.

Remember, as you told me, youre supposed to be tolerant of peoples opinions.

Take your own advice.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: mr.turbo on July 30, 2015, 09:08:38 AM
The SPLC is hardly authoritative on this subject. They've labeled every non-progressive organization as a "hate group"  ::)

do you belong to any wrongly labelled "hate groups" ?

:D
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: forillagorilla on July 30, 2015, 09:15:56 AM
haha lol. youre in every single progessive liberal thread ha lol.

Remember, as you told me, youre supposed to be tolerant of peoples opinions.

Take your own advice.

How is debate considered to be intolerant? It looks to me like that's all AJ was doing.. The intolerant ones are the liberals that want to keep conservatives from being able to debate.

Trump is gaining popularity because he is not afraid to point out the lies of the liberal media.

Last night - the lying lesbo Rachel Maddow - stated on her show VERY CLEARLY that "Donald Trump finds breastfeeding to be disgusting"

The silly bitch actually played the clip where Trump says that during a deposition a woman wanted to PUMP breast milk WHILE the deposition was going on and in front of everyone. That IS disgusting. There is no emergency need to pump. She could have asked to be excused or simply been an adult and waited.

For the left to CONSTANTLY lie - and take things out of context - proves that there is no substance to their side.

Instead of trying to make people dislike the opposition - why not try instead to make people like your sides POSITION??

There is ONLY one way for our country to survive and prosper. Liberal government spending and intrusion into our lives have NEVER once worked and it never will.

Instead of hating the wealthy - we should be showing ADMIRATION for those that have achieved. I always said that I wasn't ever going to bash the wealthy because I wanted to be there one day and didn't want anyone to call me a hypocrite  ;D

I admired the successful - tried to surround myself with only successful people - refused to listen to losers and never respected their opinions and it worked. Why would you listen to someone give advice that hasn't succeeded? UNLESS they are telling their mistakes of course..






Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: _aj_ on July 30, 2015, 09:18:39 AM
do you belong to any wrongly labelled "hate groups" ?

:D

Oh I am sure. The NRA for one.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: forillagorilla on July 30, 2015, 09:22:34 AM
Oh I am sure. The NRA for one.

AJ - just wondering - do you or your guns ever hurt people? I mean obviously you hate because otherwise why would you have a gun - but do you act on it or just let the hate fester underneath the surface?

I hate too - I just am too stupid to learn to love I think. Its the damn guns - they just call to me with their message of hate.

Actually I have to stop playing because work is calling me to get back to hating right now - it has taught me to hate the poor and disadvantaged. I need to go accomplish something today so that some poor kid can suffer.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: SF1900 on July 30, 2015, 09:25:18 AM
do you belong to any wrongly labelled "hate groups" ?

:D

The NRA?
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: _aj_ on July 30, 2015, 09:29:33 AM
AJ - just wondering - do you or your guns ever hurt people? I mean obviously you hate because otherwise why would you have a gun - but do you act on it or just let the hate fester underneath the surface?

I hate too - I just am too stupid to learn to love I think. Its the damn guns - they just call to me with their message of hate.

Actually I have to stop playing because work is calling me to get back to hating right now - it has taught me to hate the poor and disadvantaged. I need to go accomplish something today so that some poor kid can suffer.

No, but I reserve the right to hurt somebody that is trying to hurt me or my family.

You are not a good gun-owning candidate, I think. Sobriety and judiciousness are paramount personality traits.

Come to think about it, the only person that I have ever shot was myself, in a training accident in a kill house many years and many miles ago. Just one of many scars, I guess.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: mr.turbo on July 30, 2015, 09:40:32 AM
Oh I am sure. The NRA for one.

NRA doesn't show up on their list. 
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: mr.turbo on July 30, 2015, 09:49:09 AM
How do we keep the G&O from "becoming a mini-stormfront"

re-posting racist literature from white supremacist publications?

not a good look

???

 
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: illuminati on July 30, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
Yes, it sucks to read if you are black.
But, sometimes the truth hurts.
If any of you caucasian getbiggers have ever spent time in jail, you would know first hand this man writes the truth.
Years ago I had to spend approx 8 weeks in a detention center , where you have all levels of offenders passing through, either awaiting trial or being transported to another facility. For those of you not in the know, "detention center " is legalese for temporary maximum security prison.
What I observed first hand left a lasting impression on me.
In my block, there were 5-6 white guys, and approx 80-85 black.
Besides hearing the "N" word approx 400-500 times a day, the thing that struck me as being most odd is that the black guys did not mind being there. They embraced it as if it was one big party.
 Countless times I heard" I cant wait to get to a yard " meaning that drugs flow more freely at a penitentiary.
I observed blacks stealing extra toiletry supplies and food,  gambling, constantly cutting the food lines etc.
Never once did I see a white person do this.
Another observance was that black people were always 10x louder than white people.
Everything they did was exaggerated, whether it was telling a story, laughing , or complaining about something.
On the personal side, I was truly pissed because I had to wear a jumpsuit...the reason for this?
Because  black guys in prison refused to pull up there pants.
Yes, it was my fault that I had the experience that I did, and I owned it since day one, never blaming anyone.
That being said, having witnessed what I did, I can make the observation that most black folks are fundamentally different than white folks. Not in a good or bad way, just different-














Good post.
Very accurate about a very large percentage of blacks
Not all, just most.

Like you said it's no hate just fact they generally Think,Behave & interact Differently.
Having very different outlooks & expectations.

Great if they all lived together & whites all lived together
Mass racial mixing is not working for the benefit of any race.

A Failed costly experiment.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: MANGOOS on July 30, 2015, 01:01:42 PM
How do we keep the G&O from "becoming a mini-stormfront"

re-posting racist literature from white supremacist publications?

not a good look

???

 
why is it racist? how can truth be racist?
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: mr.turbo on July 30, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
why is it racist? how can truth be racist?

don't ask me

take it up with the anti-defamation league or the SPLC or wikipedia
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: K1RB on July 30, 2015, 02:34:02 PM
"Good post.
Very accurate about a very large percentage of blacks
Not all, just most.

Like you said it's no hate just fact they generally Think,Behave & interact Differently.
Having very different outlooks & expectations.

Great if they all lived together & whites all lived together
Mass racial mixing is not working for the benefit of any race.

A Failed costly experiment. "

I could not agree with you more. My guess is that, except for prison, white people don't get to observe black people first hand( first hand as in forced to live with them)-

By and large, we are two entirely different cultures, yet act surprised when there is racial tension.

Its kind of like what is going on in Europe right now, with the Euro currency/European Union.
These different countries have been at war for hundreds of years, since the beginning of time, but somehow now think that they can co exist in one union. It will be a failed experiment as well.


Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: illuminati on July 30, 2015, 04:43:37 PM

I could not agree with you more. My guess is that, except for prison, white people don't get to observe black people first hand( first hand as in forced to live with them)-

By and large, we are two entirely different cultures, yet act surprised when there is racial tension.

Its kind of like what is going on in Europe right now, with the Euro currency/European Union.
These different countries have been at war for hundreds of years, since the beginning of time, but somehow now think that they can co exist in one union. It will be a failed experiment as well.













Being in the company of large numbers of them in towns or city's
Even pubs & clubs it's soon very obvious the differences.
No doubt they say how different we whites are, only the do love
Our women especially the blonde ones.

Yes, correct again.... The European Union  ::) Let's force all these countries
Together and see how that works out..!!
Oh and just to make it more interesting let's Have Germany as the Main Driving force.
Errrr 2 world wars & only 70yrs since the last one, And who started them.!!!

If it wasn't happening now
We wouldn't believe it if some one was telling us this story.



Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: James28 on July 30, 2015, 10:27:59 PM
Yes, it sucks to read if you are black.
But, sometimes the truth hurts.
If any of you caucasian getbiggers have ever spent time in jail, you would know first hand this man writes the truth.
Years ago I had to spend approx 8 weeks in a detention center , where you have all levels of offenders passing through, either awaiting trial or being transported to another facility. For those of you not in the know, "detention center " is legalese for temporary maximum security prison.
What I observed first hand left a lasting impression on me.
In my block, there were 5-6 white guys, and approx 80-85 black.
Besides hearing the "N" word approx 400-500 times a day, the thing that struck me as being most odd is that the black guys did not mind being there. They embraced it as if it was one big party.
 Countless times I heard" I cant wait to get to a yard " meaning that drugs flow more freely at a penitentiary.
I observed blacks stealing extra toiletry supplies and food,  gambling, constantly cutting the food lines etc.
Never once did I see a white person do this.
Another observance was that black people were always 10x louder than white people.
Everything they did was exaggerated, whether it was telling a story, laughing , or complaining about something.
On the personal side, I was truly pissed because I had to wear a jumpsuit...the reason for this?
Because  black guys in prison refused to pull up there pants.
Yes, it was my fault that I had the experience that I did, and I owned it since day one, never blaming anyone.
That being said, having witnessed what I did, I can make the observation that most black folks are fundamentally different than white folks. Not in a good or bad way, just different-

Won't suck for them to read it as they see it totally different for starters. Vince already posted and blamed something else. It's what they do.

I live in the whitest country on Earth (I assure you, that's by design) where you never see blacks, ever.

Well, I saw one today. He was walking through the business park my office are located in. Cloudy day but he was wearing big yellow rimmed sun glasses and pants down to his ankles. This is a nice respectable area where us whites and our fellow Asian and South American colleagues work together in peace and quiet. Negro turns up and just being in the area, instantly brings it down.

There's zero doubt in my mind they're a completely different type animal.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: K1RB on July 31, 2015, 07:50:56 AM
Won't suck for them to read it as they see it totally different for starters. Vince already posted and blamed something else. It's what they do.

I live in the whitest country on Earth (I assure you, that's by design) where you never see blacks, ever.

Well, I saw one today. He was walking through the business park my office are located in. Cloudy day but he was wearing big yellow rimmed sun glasses and pants down to his ankles. This is a nice respectable area where us whites and our fellow Asian and South American colleagues work together in peace and quiet. Negro turns up and just being in the area, instantly brings it down.

There's zero doubt in my mind they're a completely different type animal.
Spot on!
I live here in the states, and can assure you that I live in a republican, very white county as well-
and it's by choice, 100%
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: James on August 06, 2015, 08:23:58 AM
Section 8 Destroys Cities

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Look at this shit hole. This used to be a beautiful place, but now it's a Section 8 infested shit hole.

The landlords/property owners/investors that rent to Section 8 tenants are one of the main reason this city is so fucked up. Stop renting Section 8 FFS. If you know someone who owns and rents properties to Section 8 tenants tell them that they are a piece of shit and they need to stop. They should be shamed. They are destroying our neighborhoods for marginal profit (considering much of the east side architecture is the same as that found in Brookside, there is a much higher upside in fixing up these section 8 shit holes to there former glory, than renting to Section 8 democrats). The animals that live on Section 8 can move along to somewhere else. We need to get this shit out of here!



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Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: BigCyp on August 06, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
Blacks are great. Most of the customers who use my wifes home massage business are black men and they are always very thankful and polite to me if we cross paths.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: loco on August 06, 2015, 10:35:41 AM
They are the most Christian, religious and superstitious of any group though.

So are Hispanics and the Amish.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: loco on August 06, 2015, 10:38:37 AM
No Remorse. No fathers.

Part of the problem is that underclass black women begin having babies at age 15. They continue to have babies, with different black men, until they have had five or six. These women do not go to school. They do not work. They are not ashamed to live on public money. They plan their entire lives around the expectation that they will always get free money and never have to work. I do not see this among whites, Hispanics, or any other people.

The Great Society was a set of domestic programs in the United States first announced by President Lyndon B. Johnson at Ohio University, then at University of Michigan, and subsequently promoted by him and fellow Democrats in Congress in the 1960s. Two main goals of the Great Society social reforms were the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society

Economist Thomas Sowell argues that the Great Society programs only contributed to the destruction of African American families, saying "the black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society#African-American_family_structure

Economist Thomas Sowell
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Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: spiro on August 06, 2015, 11:00:56 AM
Notice how Vince brushed it off so easily and make excuses lol. I would love to make all the liberal shit bags I know read this. They live in fairy pretend world.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: James on August 06, 2015, 12:09:46 PM
The entire Country will eventually look like Detroit thanks to the democrats.

Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: loco on August 06, 2015, 12:58:18 PM
WTF?  Detroit looks like something out of The Walking Dead or some other apocalyptic movie.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 07, 2015, 08:05:13 AM
It's impossible to solve a problem when you refuse to even identify it.

As a society, we are denying reality simply because the truth is sometimes uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Wiggs on August 07, 2015, 08:25:30 AM
Can one of you geniuses explain to me why literally every Hebrew of note on this site has not been in prison, jail, part of the system etc. and a host of Gentiles on this site are thieves, convicts, liars, losers, wife beaters, con artists and drug addicts.  Please tell me how that works?  Actually, don't tell me because the answers I'll get will more than likely be lies because that's what you do.

There's no denying the problems the Hebrews have in America.  The reasons we have these problems is what the debate is really about.  You don't know the reasons.  You're not Hebrew, you've never lived in Hebrew communities and you don't truly know Hebrew culture (since we've been in America) unless you're a Hebrew.  You dumbfucks (not all of you) and your forefathers have been putting out lies since we came to this country.  You started calling us lazy the moment we wouldn't work for free anymore....classic.   ::)

An overwhelming majority of you can't see the forest for the trees. So if you can't explain me, Parker, Vince, Option D., IronDisciple, TuHolmes, Andreisdaman, Mesomorph and every other Hebrew on here or out there not in jail or doing bad just please shut the fuck up with your imbecilic ideas.  You don't have the answers and never will.  Concentrate on your people because as you can see now, you're fat, dumb, sick, interracially dating/marrying and reproducing,  drug addicted, broke, impotent, and sexually confused now...You have bigger problems. Appreciate your concerns.

You people live in glass houses. Quit throwing rocks.
 :)

When your people started throwing our Hebrew fathers in prison and breaking up the black family, that was the beginning of our most recent troubles. It starts there.  You fix the families, you fix most of the problems in this country.  All races. Without order, there is chaos.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Yamcha on August 07, 2015, 09:23:45 AM
 Concentrate on your people because as you can see now, you're fat, dumb, sick, interracially dating/marrying and reproducing,  drug addicted, broke, impotent, and sexually confused now...You have bigger problems. Appreciate your concerns.

So... There aren't any Hebrews like the shit you've posted above?
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Wiggs on August 07, 2015, 09:38:52 AM
So... There aren't any Hebrews like the shit you've posted above?

Don't play dumb.

Everyone knows my people have a host of problems included in that list. White Gentiles used to believe they didn't. Taking a look around in this country shows they are no different and worse in some cases.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Yamcha on August 07, 2015, 09:44:17 AM
Don't play dumb.

Everyone knows my people has a host of problems included in that list. White Gentiles used to believe they didn't. Taking a look around in this country shows they are no different and worse in some cases.

Oh I hate everyone,  I am the definition of a hater.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Las Vegas on August 07, 2015, 10:04:11 AM
Good post, Wiggs.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Wiggs on August 07, 2015, 10:04:44 AM
Good post, Wiggs.

Thanks hometown.  8)
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 05:27:02 PM
Can one of you geniuses explain to me why literally every Hebrew of note on this site has not been in prison, jail, part of the system etc. and a host of Gentiles on this site are thieves, convicts, liars, losers, wife beaters, con artists and drug addicts.  Please tell me how that works?  Actually, don't tell me because the answers I'll get will more than likely be lies because that's what you do.

There's no denying the problems the Hebrews have in America.  The reasons we have these problems is what the debate is really about.  You don't know the reasons.  You're not Hebrew, you've never lived in Hebrew communities and you don't truly know Hebrew culture (since we've been in America) unless you're a Hebrew.  You dumbfucks (not all of you) and your forefathers have been putting out lies since we came to this country.  You started calling us lazy the moment we wouldn't work for free anymore....classic.   ::)

An overwhelming majority of you can't see the forest for the trees. So if you can't explain me, Parker, Vince, Option D., IronDisciple, TuHolmes, Andreisdaman, Mesomorph and every other Hebrew on here or out there not in jail or doing bad just please shut the fuck up with your imbecilic ideas.  You don't have the answers and never will.  Concentrate on your people because as you can see now, you're fat, dumb, sick, interracially dating/marrying and reproducing,  drug addicted, broke, impotent, and sexually confused now...You have bigger problems. Appreciate your concerns.

You people live in glass houses. Quit throwing rocks.
 :)

When your people started throwing our Hebrew fathers in prison and breaking up the black family, that was the beginning of our most recent troubles. It starts there.  You fix the families, you fix most of the problems in this country.  All races. Without order, there is chaos.
You gotta fix the Culture first and that takes a lot of undoing. 
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 07, 2015, 06:12:53 PM
Can one of you geniuses explain to me why literally every Hebrew of note on this site has not been in prison, jail, part of the system etc. and a host of Gentiles on this site are thieves, convicts, liars, losers, wife beaters, con artists and drug addicts.  Please tell me how that works?  Actually, don't tell me because the answers I'll get will more than likely be lies because that's what you do.

There's no denying the problems the Hebrews have in America.  The reasons we have these problems is what the debate is really about.  You don't know the reasons.  You're not Hebrew, you've never lived in Hebrew communities and you don't truly know Hebrew culture (since we've been in America) unless you're a Hebrew.  You dumbfucks (not all of you) and your forefathers have been putting out lies since we came to this country.  You started calling us lazy the moment we wouldn't work for free anymore....classic.   ::)

An overwhelming majority of you can't see the forest for the trees. So if you can't explain me, Parker, Vince, Option D., IronDisciple, TuHolmes, Andreisdaman, Mesomorph and every other Hebrew on here or out there not in jail or doing bad just please shut the fuck up with your imbecilic ideas.  You don't have the answers and never will.  Concentrate on your people because as you can see now, you're fat, dumb, sick, interracially dating/marrying and reproducing,  drug addicted, broke, impotent, and sexually confused now...You have bigger problems. Appreciate your concerns.

You people live in glass houses. Quit throwing rocks.
 :)

When your people started throwing our Hebrew fathers in prison and breaking up the black family, that was the beginning of our most recent troubles. It starts there.  You fix the families, you fix most of the problems in this country.  All races. Without order, there is chaos.

Solid post actually
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 07, 2015, 06:48:43 PM
Can one of you geniuses explain to me why literally every Hebrew of note on this site has not been in prison, jail, part of the system etc. and a host of Gentiles on this site are thieves, convicts, liars, losers, wife beaters, con artists and drug addicts.  Please tell me how that works?  Actually, don't tell me because the answers I'll get will more than likely be lies because that's what you do.

There's no denying the problems the Hebrews have in America.  The reasons we have these problems is what the debate is really about.  You don't know the reasons.  You're not Hebrew, you've never lived in Hebrew communities and you don't truly know Hebrew culture (since we've been in America) unless you're a Hebrew.  You dumbfucks (not all of you) and your forefathers have been putting out lies since we came to this country.  You started calling us lazy the moment we wouldn't work for free anymore....classic.   ::)

An overwhelming majority of you can't see the forest for the trees. So if you can't explain me, Parker, Vince, Option D., IronDisciple, TuHolmes, Andreisdaman, Mesomorph and every other Hebrew on here or out there not in jail or doing bad just please shut the fuck up with your imbecilic ideas.  You don't have the answers and never will.  Concentrate on your people because as you can see now, you're fat, dumb, sick, interracially dating/marrying and reproducing,  drug addicted, broke, impotent, and sexually confused now...You have bigger problems. Appreciate your concerns.

You people live in glass houses. Quit throwing rocks.
 :)

When your people started throwing our Hebrew fathers in prison and breaking up the black family, that was the beginning of our most recent troubles. It starts there.  You fix the families, you fix most of the problems in this country.  All races. Without order, there is chaos.


This is the downfall of Western Society. And though you may fight it sometimes Wiggs (or maybe you don't, you may agree) the American Hebrew is part of WesternSociety. We're all fucked without the family unit.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 06:50:04 PM

This is the downfall of Western Society. And though you may fight it sometimes Wiggs (or maybe you don't, you may agree) the American Hebrew is part of WesternSociety. We're all fucked without the family unit.
Tons of successful people don't want children though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 07, 2015, 06:52:54 PM
Tons of successful people don't want children though.

That's true. However, those who do have them, need to take care of them. Find a life long mate, and raise the kids together, and with good values. Otherwise just don't have them.

I don't subscribe to the notion that one is selfish for not having kids, it's not for everyone.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Voice of Doom on August 07, 2015, 07:31:02 PM
The influx of crack cocaine on the black neighborhoods in the 80s was done to deliberately undermine and destroy any resurgence of the 60s civil rights movement.
Regardless of the political outcomes of the 60s, civil rights leaders and movements showed that a white/black middle class/lower class movement could be mobilized.  That made it a direct threat to the elites in this country.  To mitigate that happening again steps were taken.  These included assassination of the leaders, paid informants and saboteurs, war on drugs, letting extremism hijack the message (3rd wave feminism), devaluing the dollar, expanding credit recklessly (debt slaves) and using the media to highlight the differences in the cultures.  Each side retreated to "find itself" and circled the wagons.

The early 1990s showed a resurgence of the movement but this was quickly usurped and commercialized.  Rap stopped being about the communities and became about misogyny and materialism.  Hippie rock/Grunge became Disney movie soundtracks.

It's very sad.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on August 07, 2015, 07:32:15 PM
That's true. However, those who do have them, need to take care of them. Find a life long mate, and raise the kids together, and with good values. Otherwise just don't have them.

I don't subscribe to the notion that one is selfish for not having kids, it's not for everyone.
Even if they are married, they can't take care of 13 children.

This whole fantasy of a "family unit" is fucking stupid and a cop out excuse to what the real problem is.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: Nirvana on August 07, 2015, 07:48:36 PM
Can one of you geniuses explain to me why literally every Hebrew of note on this site has not been in prison, jail, part of the system etc. and a host of Gentiles on this site are thieves, convicts, liars, losers, wife beaters, con artists and drug addicts.  Please tell me how that works?  Actually, don't tell me because the answers I'll get will more than likely be lies because that's what you do.

There's no denying the problems the Hebrews have in America.  The reasons we have these problems is what the debate is really about.  You don't know the reasons.  You're not Hebrew, you've never lived in Hebrew communities and you don't truly know Hebrew culture (since we've been in America) unless you're a Hebrew.  You dumbfucks (not all of you) and your forefathers have been putting out lies since we came to this country.  You started calling us lazy the moment we wouldn't work for free anymore....classic.   ::)

An overwhelming majority of you can't see the forest for the trees. So if you can't explain me, Parker, Vince, Option D., IronDisciple, TuHolmes, Andreisdaman, Mesomorph and every other Hebrew on here or out there not in jail or doing bad just please shut the fuck up with your imbecilic ideas.  You don't have the answers and never will.  Concentrate on your people because as you can see now, you're fat, dumb, sick, interracially dating/marrying and reproducing,  drug addicted, broke, impotent, and sexually confused now...You have bigger problems. Appreciate your concerns.

You people live in glass houses. Quit throwing rocks.
 :)

When your people started throwing our Hebrew fathers in prison and breaking up the black family, that was the beginning of our most recent troubles. It starts there.  You fix the families, you fix most of the problems in this country.  All races. Without order, there is chaos.
You all represent a small percentage of Hebrews that have the mental focus and intelligence required post on getbig and/or operate a computer.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: James28 on August 07, 2015, 09:20:59 PM
Can one of you geniuses explain to me why literally every Hebrew of note on this site has not been in prison, jail, part of the system etc. and a host of Gentiles on this site are thieves, convicts, liars, losers, wife beaters, con artists and drug addicts.  Please tell me how that works?  Actually, don't tell me because the answers I'll get will more than likely be lies because that's what you do.

There's no denying the problems the Hebrews have in America.  The reasons we have these problems is what the debate is really about.  You don't know the reasons.  You're not Hebrew, you've never lived in Hebrew communities and you don't truly know Hebrew culture (since we've been in America) unless you're a Hebrew.  You dumbfucks (not all of you) and your forefathers have been putting out lies since we came to this country.  You started calling us lazy the moment we wouldn't work for free anymore....classic.   ::)

An overwhelming majority of you can't see the forest for the trees. So if you can't explain me, Parker, Vince, Option D., IronDisciple, TuHolmes, Andreisdaman, Mesomorph and every other Hebrew on here or out there not in jail or doing bad just please shut the fuck up with your imbecilic ideas.  You don't have the answers and never will.  Concentrate on your people because as you can see now, you're fat, dumb, sick, interracially dating/marrying and reproducing,  drug addicted, broke, impotent, and sexually confused now...You have bigger problems. Appreciate your concerns.

You people live in glass houses. Quit throwing rocks.
 :)

When your people started throwing our Hebrew fathers in prison and breaking up the black family, that was the beginning of our most recent troubles. It starts there.  You fix the families, you fix most of the problems in this country.  All races. Without order, there is chaos.

We threw you in prison and you're lazy criminals that would rather steal than work, smoke dope than get an education or take care of your own families. Nobody is throwing Africans in jail in Africa, yet it's still rife with corruption, poverty and fraud. The Whites in Africa I've dealt with talk about 'Africa Time'. Where black Africans have zero concept of being on time or working hard. Everything can always be done later, tomorrow or next week. Even Nelson Mandela spoke about it.

Face it Wiggs. Your people carry the mark of Cain. The original sinners. The outcast and unwanted. See, I made it all biblical so it'll make sense to you.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: illuminati on August 07, 2015, 11:59:18 PM
The influx of crack cocaine on the black neighborhoods in the 80s was done to deliberately undermine and destroy any resurgence of the 60s civil rights movement.
Regardless of the political outcomes of the 60s, civil rights leaders and movements showed that a white/black middle class/lower class movement could be mobilized.  That made it a direct threat to the elites in this country.  To mitigate that happening again steps were taken.  These included assassination of the leaders, paid informants and saboteurs, war on drugs, letting extremism hijack the message (3rd wave feminism), devaluing the dollar, expanding credit recklessly (debt slaves) and using the media to highlight the differences in the cultures.  Each side retreated to "find itself" and circled the wagons.

The early 1990s showed a resurgence of the movement but this was quickly usurped and commercialized.  Rap stopped being about the communities and became about misogyny and materialism.  Hippie rock/Grunge became Disney movie soundtracks.

It's very sad.













You make some interesting points.
Doesn't make for good reading what those in charge of supposedly
Running a country will do, to remain in there positions & maintain
Their lifestyles.
Stuff everyone else.
Look after the few.
It's not changed a lot in the last few 1000+ yrs.
So much for progress.
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The Ugly on August 08, 2015, 01:31:19 AM
"I am a liberal. I believe that those of us who are able to produce abundance have a moral duty to provide basic food, shelter, and medical care for those who cannot care for themselves. I believe we have this duty even to those who can care for themselves but don’t."


What kind of retarded horseshit is this?
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: oldgolds on August 08, 2015, 07:41:40 AM
Can one of you geniuses explain to me why literally every Hebrew of note on this site has not been in prison, jail, part of the system etc. and a host of Gentiles on this site are thieves, convicts, liars, losers, wife beaters, con artists and drug addicts.  Please tell me how that works?  Actually, don't tell me because the answers I'll get will more than likely be lies because that's what you do.

There's no denying the problems the Hebrews have in America.  The reasons we have these problems is what the debate is really about.  You don't know the reasons.  You're not Hebrew, you've never lived in Hebrew communities and you don't truly know Hebrew culture (since we've been in America) unless you're a Hebrew.  You dumbfucks (not all of you) and your forefathers have been putting out lies since we came to this country.  You started calling us lazy the moment we wouldn't work for free anymore....classic.   ::)

An overwhelming majority of you can't see the forest for the trees. So if you can't explain me, Parker, Vince, Option D., IronDisciple, TuHolmes, Andreisdaman, Mesomorph and every other Hebrew on here or out there not in jail or doing bad just please shut the fuck up with your imbecilic ideas.  You don't have the answers and never will.  Concentrate on your people because as you can see now, you're fat, dumb, sick, interracially dating/marrying and reproducing,  drug addicted, broke, impotent, and sexually confused now...You have bigger problems. Appreciate your concerns.

You people live in glass houses. Quit throwing rocks.
 :)

When your people started throwing our Hebrew fathers in prison and breaking up the black family, that was the beginning of our most recent troubles. It starts there.  You fix the families, you fix most of the problems in this country.  All races. Without order, there is chaos.

Black fathers are thrown in prison for committing crimes, usually against other Blacks...Black America needs to stop blaming Whitey and take responsibility for their massive disfunction and bad behavior. Look up the FBI crime stats by Race...
Title: Re: Confessions of a liberal (still liberal) Public Defender, Michael Smith
Post by: The True Adonis on August 08, 2015, 10:52:49 AM
We threw you in prison and you're lazy criminals that would rather steal than work, smoke dope than get an education or take care of your own families. Nobody is throwing Africans in jail in Africa, yet it's still rife with corruption, poverty and fraud. The Whites in Africa I've dealt with talk about 'Africa Time'. Where black Africans have zero concept of being on time or working hard. Everything can always be done later, tomorrow or next week. Even Nelson Mandela spoke about it.

Face it Wiggs. Your people carry the mark of Cain. The original sinners. The outcast and unwanted. See, I made it all biblical so it'll make sense to you.
;D