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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: whitewidow on August 04, 2015, 01:38:56 AM
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Alright time to change threads up no more personal pictures unless they are just progress pics. I'll start over I admit I'm small right now I dropped close to 50 lbs since march. I had to get lean. I got way to big off-season this year. I'm only 5ft 6In and 220lbs was just uncomfortable to walk around at. Goal is to just gain pure LBM! I don;t want the weight if it's just fluid or fat. I am currently single digit BF% I did get it tested.
No more women pictures. no matter what they look like. I have a reason why I date certain women. I'm not exclusive with any women right now took the pics down because if they were found I don't want anybody pissed off at me. just pics of myself for now on! If anybody else is doing a transformation go ahead and feel free to share pics. keep it positive. I am way stronger then I look. I do alot of volume currently but I can move some weight on low volume days. losing 50 lbs was not fun! it did take alot of work so just respect that. I don;t care what you think of me as a person but it was a bitch to lose 50 lbs! 2 middle pics are most recent from a few days ago
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I'm going to update every week. My goal is too do a clean bulk I'll go for 200lbs even lean at 5ft6IN
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I have a before and after in the main bodybuilding page of 2 years the after pic was taken about 6 months ago or so. U gonna have to eat exceptionally well at 200 with your height to stay lean ide think especially since u r not on gh. This is my problem my diet has to b perfect and I'm a starving asshole even in maintenance calories lol u can do it my only suggestion would b to run less harsh compounds. Fuck that oral tren and tren suspension that crazy shit I don't think is going to matter on the end goal u have.
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I have a before and after in the main bodybuilding page of 2 years the after pic was taken about 6 months ago or so. U gonna have to eat exceptionally well at 200 with your height to stay lean ide think especially since u r not on gh. This is my problem my diet has to b perfect and I'm a starving asshole even in maintenance calories lol u can do it my only suggestion would b to run less harsh compounds. Fuck that oral tren and tren suspension that crazy shit I don't think is going to matter on the end goal u have.
I lose crazy weight on tren! I'll use the tren suspension on low volume days and it does make me strong as fuck but so does winstrol. that's probably my favorite stack is a little sust, winstrol and tren. I can blast up to 200Lb's but it has to be slow. I'll just monitor everything I want to keep my conditioning but still I think I'm lean enough to gain some size and then trim off a few BF%. I'm leaner then I look. I have veins shooting through my legs and calfs right now. My skin is pretty thin at he moment. I can tell how much water I;m holding or if my bF% is going up just be how vascular I am and how thin my skin is.
I'll also check my ankles for any water films. very dry right now. what's your conditioning like? do you get as vascular as me? I go pretty heavy I have a strong back and chest, I T bar row 5-6 plates for 8-12 reps and deadlift 405 lbs for 4-5 reps. My bench press is over 400 lbs. I know alot of people will doubt that but i have a pretty thick chest in person. pictures don't do much justice. My legs are strong too. I have string triceps and biceps but my arms are stubborn poor insertions there.
I live in a city where you don't see alot of guys lift heavy or are super jacked. not many juicers here.
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I Pretty much look like a giant hard cock while at the gym I'll dig up a pic when I get a break i have a few friends with over 500lb bench presses I could mAyb get 450 up but I'll never try may not ever flat press again
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I Pretty much look like a giant hard cock while at the gym I'll dig up a pic when I get a break i have a few friends with over 500lb bench presses I could mAyb get 450 up but I'll never try may not ever flat press again
yeah me too. I get crazy veiny and get dickskin. at this age and after years of doing flat bench I don;t do it much anymore either but i can still hit over 400lb bench press. I get more out of doing volume so I rather drop the weight and do crazy volume with decent weight. I'll rep out 185 lbs wich is 10-12 lbs more then my bodyweight for 100 reps with 2 short breaks of 10 seconds I can get 50 easy put it back up for 10 seconds do another 25 rest for another 10 aseconds and then hit the other last 25 reps, I get more out of doing sets like that then a 1 rep max.
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Just what I have taken
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One more
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pretty similar to my arm vascularity in my 2nd picture if you look but I am not doing curls I'm not relaxed either but we have similar shirts you ripped off the eat clen,tren hard part-lol, mine is still on the shirt it's a little diffrent it says eat clen,tren hard,claim natty,scam the unaware,make money.Nice shots though.looks like a smaller gym.
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Lol yea I'm curling arms pumped to max my buddy took the pic
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Lol yea I'm curling arms pumped to max my buddy took the pic
looks like your using a bench press straight bar those are longer,heavier and will make you wider def better then a easy curl bar.
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Also starting to use the arm blaster for straight bars really can feel that in my bicep
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Also starting to use the arm blaster for straight bars really can feel that in my bicep
Those are def nice keeps your triceps from moving any of the weight. my gym dosn;t have one and it's huge.
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I fucking bought one for bout 30$ On Amazon after trying it once. Wish I could find a pic when I was in NPP and tren at same time I felt I looked my best
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I fucking bought one for bout 30$ On Amazon after trying it once. Wish I could find a pic when I was in NPP and tren at same time I felt I looked my best
They were 40$ in town at this store that sells fitness equipment. I go to 2 gyms and not one of them has a bicep blaster. I used to use them alot when I was younger almost daily and that was a hole in the wall gym. look good brother. How are you rotating injections maybe just more scar tissue in certain areas would help. I shoot my delts all the time since I'm so narrow it seems to help especially when I put suspension in them.
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I just hit quads in 2 spots each and glutes not reall easy to reach my other shoulder may start using delts when I cruise I just backed Down to 2ccs mwf 1/2 sust 1/2 mast e 1npp vs 3ccs 3x week this damn alpha pharma nPP is the thickest shit I've ever used its a bitch to shoot out of a 25 gauge
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I just hit quads in 2 spots each and glutes not reall easy to reach my other shoulder may start using delts when I cruise I just backed Down to 2ccs mwf 1/2 sust 1/2 mast e 1npp vs 3ccs 3x week this damn alpha pharma nPP is the thickest shit I've ever used its a bitch to shoot out of a 25 gauge
Yeah I don't like their NPP. I wonder why they used such thick oil all their other products have super thin oil. I got a 10ml and I swear I got like 8.5 shots out of that 10ml and then I got amps next to make sure I got 10 shots. have somebody else shoot your delts. That's what I do especially for rear delts.
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Lol my wife will not even touch my needles and I pin at 430am during the week. My other buddy presses one arm against the wall fuck lol quads r just so easy as long as the gear is quality there isn't ever any problems for me. The NPP is good just thick as fuck as soon as I shoot it it goes away no lumps or anything it's he only aas I've tried of alpha pharma I got like 5 10mls free! For being a good customer lol
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The other WW. :)
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The other WW. :)
Cycle?
Got a mid section pic? (full homo)
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Cycle?
Got a mid section pic? (full homo)
In my 50's and started trt doses at 50. Was a top powelifter but at 24 bailed for my corporate career. From 24 to 50 no gear and a crazy response when I started (30lb weight gain). I decided to try some test and gh due to a cervical spinal injury which was casing me to lose strength in my left arm and excruciating pain.
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Lol my wife will not even touch my needles and I pin at 430am during the week. My other buddy presses one arm against the wall fuck lol quads r just so easy as long as the gear is quality there isn't ever any problems for me. The NPP is good just thick as fuck as soon as I shoot it it goes away no lumps or anything it's he only aas I've tried of alpha pharma I got like 5 10mls free! For being a good customer lol
Damn pesto you look great! What are you running now? I'm going tren atm but I'm looking for a safer stack to switch to
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The other WW. :)
Ive seen his pics before def crazy conditioning for TRT dose. I'm getting there. don't have that kind of muscle maturity yet.
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Damn pesto you look great! What are you running now? I'm going tren atm but I'm looking for a safer stack to switch to
thanks EQ currently running 375 sust 300mast E and 300NPP
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thanks EQ currently running 375 sust 300mast E and 300NPP
you should throw in some anadrol. BTW what AI's do you use?
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Research Chems aromasin and prami for when I high dose 19nors. I have dbol it would do me good right now it gives me veins and shit not really bloat I watch diet little better on dbol also have to take little bit more AI with the dianabol, but there is some strong ass drol going around my gym but I don't fuck with people too many cops at my gym. This drol is in plain caps idk if it even has a brand there is a group of dudes popping them lol I have a powerlifting buddy was popping around 400mgs of them drol running AP tren suspension 3 grams of test 1 g deca and he fucking smoked everybody at his meet
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Research Chems aromasin and prami for when I high dose 19nors. I have dbol it would do me good right now it gives me veins and shit not really bloat I watch diet little better on dbol also have to take little bit more AI with the dianabol, but there is some strong ass drol going around my gym but I don't fuck with people too many cops at my gym. This drol is in plain caps idk if it even has a brand there is a group of dudes popping them lol I have a powerlifting buddy was popping around 400mgs of them drol running AP tren suspension 3 grams of test 1 g deca and he fucking smoked everybody at his meet
Holy shit! I'm surprised his nose didn't start bleeding. we got one kid who smokes everybody in our town and nearby states and he uses very little just crazy genetic freak. he is crazy ripped too! he set a record at the emerald cup,he could of jumped in the mens open class after the meet and won that overall too,Ive never seen such a genetic freak. Most powerlifters have some weight on them this guy is like 5%BF and holds size, bodybuilder look but strong as fuck.
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In my 50's and started trt doses at 50. Was a top powelifter but at 24 bailed for my corporate career. From 24 to 50 no gear and a crazy response when I started (30lb weight gain). I decided to try some test and gh due to a cervical spinal injury which was casing me to lose strength in my left arm and excruciating pain.
Carrying some serious lean size there... Good to see some guys on here looking good, pest' looking good too, look kik a doppleganger for my younger brother.... Props to ww for finaly posting pics too
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Holy shit! I'm surprised his nose didn't start bleeding. we got one kid who smokes everybody in our town and nearby states and he uses very little just crazy genetic freak. he is crazy ripped too! he set a record at the emerald cup,he could of jumped in the mens open class after the meet and won that overall too,Ive never seen such a genetic freak. Most powerlifters have some weight on them this guy is like 5%BF and holds size, bodybuilder look but strong as fuck.
No this guy was like 20% body fat during the comp he's dropping fat now I'm helping him with diet his showing some abs and shoulder separation with veins at 5'9ish 245lbs he's a big dude squat 6 plates a side on the bar ass to grass for reps. And pulling about the same on deads accept no belt with 6 plates. Don't see somebody doing that shit every day lol at least I don't gyms around me suckkkk. Ide love to train at a rusty loud ass heavy metal weight slamming gym the atmosphere is better to me. If I get rowdy or cuss and tell at somebody I'm training with u get looked at funny sucks but fuck them in trying to get big so I make an ass out of my self and do what I want lol
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No this guy was like 20% body fat during the comp he's dropping fat now I'm helping him with diet his showing some abs and shoulder separation with veins at 5'9ish 245lbs he's a big dude squat 6 plates a side on the bar ass to grass for reps. And pulling about the same on deads accept no belt with 6 plates. Don't see somebody doing that shit every day lol at least I don't gyms around me suckkkk. Ide love to train at a rusty loud ass heavy metal weight slamming gym the atmosphere is better to me. If I get rowdy or cuss and tell at somebody I'm training with u get looked at funny sucks but fuck them in trying to get big so I make an ass out of my self and do what I want lol
bro this kid lifts that heavy at 5%BF with minimal drugs,craziest shit I have seen from a 22 year old kid at any gym I have been to. He smokes all us physique wise too. just a real FREAK. he works at the gym as well I'll try to get a picture of this kid. I know him very well he lives one block away as well.
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Some people were born to do this shit others can only dream. Genetics!!! u have what u r born with and can't change that shit with drugs of any kind but u can do your best and see what u r made out of its all what u enjoy to do at the end of the day. That's oustanding and rare, young too 22 he will only get better if he's smart
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Some people were born to do this shit others can only dream. Genetics!!! u have what u r born with and can't change that shit with drugs of any kind but u can do your best and see what u r made out of its all what u enjoy to do at the end of the day. That's oustanding and rare, young too 22 he will only get better if he's smart
Yeah he's the 1%. He def has pro genetics.
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One more
What are you currently running and what are your goals?
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Currently on 375sust 300npp 300maste weekly
Goal is to add muscle and stay lean I'm happy with my size I just have to bring up my legs and calves and arms it would b nice to b about 15 lbs heavier I admit but I'm not sure I'm going to achieve it with my low dosages I'm just not going to run high amounts for long periods so I will do the same thing as I did this last year. I can already see I'm growing still by increasing my calories these last few weeks and staying lean I'm just going to continue what has been working for me I probably train too often as well (2days a month off)
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Currently on 375sust 300npp 300maste weekly
Goal is to add muscle and stay lean I'm happy with my size I just have to bring up my legs and calves and arms it would b nice to b about 15 lbs heavier I admit but I'm not sure I'm going to achieve it with my low dosages I'm just not going to run high amounts for long periods so I will do the same thing as I did this last year. I can already see I'm growing still by increasing my calories these last few weeks and staying lean I'm just going to continue what has been working for me I probably train too often as well (2days a month off)
don;t buy in to that overtraining theory. your on juice you can train twice a day. I did doubles for a few months daily. I don;t feel good if I take even a day off. even if it's just a calf and ab workout and maybe cardio get your ass in there. better then being at home. I know it's hard with a wife or girlfriend. girls rob alot of my time.
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if you can train a week in a row then youre moving weights up and down but not training
steroids do NOTHING for your central nervous system.
your muscles dont overtrain. your CNS does.
at least if you train - and NOT just move around some weights.
you can NOT work out with intensity for days on end. or even weeks. or twice a day ^^ that always leads into stagnation and massive fatigue and if you still keep it up in burn out and even muscle loss. you fuck up your nervous system with that.
and no, popping ephedrine does NOT help lol
that being said.
i ALWAYS have the best results by training eod. doesnt matter if cutting or bulking. 60 minutes. not more. but 60 minutes of of lifting the fuck out of every weight in range, no breaks, supersets, dropsets until your half dead. thats training.
i love training though so i hold myself back a bit and work out 5-6 days a week. i love my gym time so i go as often as i can, but eod gives me better results.
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Lol @me not training and moving weights up and down^^ u can't hang don't make excuses for us
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5 days a week is enough but if your juicing why not train harder if you can. somethings wrong if you can't train everyday at least once. I can run doubles at HIT pace moving decent weight. I'll superset drop set the fuck out of everything too. depends how much your sleeping and eating and your drugs. I took this last weekend off just 3 days and went out of town where there were no gyms and I was on my gear I couldn't take it. drove me crazy I fiend for a good muscle pump. like I said even if it's just training calves,abs and cardio there is always something to work on. I know alot of guys who workout everyday twice even if one workout is just a pump session. My CNS can get taxed but that's mainly from that car wreck I was in..
I do know that taxed CNS feeling.
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if you can train a week in a row then youre moving weights up and down but not training
steroids do NOTHING for your central nervous system.
your muscles dont overtrain. your CNS does.
at least if you train - and NOT just move around some weights.
you can NOT work out with intensity for days on end. or even weeks. or twice a day ^^ that always leads into stagnation and massive fatigue and if you still keep it up in burn out and even muscle loss. you fuck up your nervous system with that.
and no, popping ephedrine does NOT help lol
that being said.
i ALWAYS have the best results by training eod. doesnt matter if cutting or bulking. 60 minutes. not more. but 60 minutes of of lifting the fuck out of every weight in range, no breaks, supersets, dropsets until your half dead. thats training.
i love training though so i hold myself back a bit and work out 5-6 days a week. i love my gym time so i go as often as i can, but eod gives me better results.
I agree with you on most things you do alot of research but not this! plus have you seen Ptest train? we don't know his training style by pictures. he could do HIT and dropset everything his form looks strict and if he uses a bicep blaster you can;t really cheat at least when you train biceps sounds like he's using strict form.
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Lol @me not training and moving weights up and down^^ u can't hang don't make excuses for us
just saying it how it is really.
you said yourself youre probably resting too little.
ive literally seen EVERYone doing this shit with no rest for weeks... it goes all well for 3-4 weeks, then they fuck themselves up and have to take 2-3 weeks break
or they rely more and more on pre workouts, stims, ephedrine and shit and otherwise cant get their asses up.
and after a few weeks EVERY single one of them stagnates
you can pretty easily test if youre overtraining by checking your resting heart rate regularly btw.
if youve been doing this for months or years then more power to you.
it just didnt work for EVERY SINGLE ONE i know.
btw, GH might change that since it does have effects on CNS too. AAS alone, no.
so if youre using (high) doses GH it might go well... i dont have experience with that tho
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Lol Yea I end up every few weeks with a couple days off every so often I feel run down. But I'm trying to keep body fat lower with out starving training so much helps me with that. This winter il maybe get 4-5 days a week in probly grow more like u say
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Currently on 375sust 300npp 300maste weekly
Goal is to add muscle and stay lean I'm happy with my size I just have to bring up my legs and calves and arms it would b nice to b about 15 lbs heavier I admit but I'm not sure I'm going to achieve it with my low dosages I'm just not going to run high amounts for long periods so I will do the same thing as I did this last year. I can already see I'm growing still by increasing my calories these last few weeks and staying lean I'm just going to continue what has been working for me I probably train too often as well (2days a month off)
If you were training till true positive failure and doing 1 working set per excersize while implementing progressive overload while keeping gym time to under 45 mins and leaving knowing that you gave it your all...you would not be able to train more than 4-5 days a week with this style and maybe even less at first...You would grow much more as well..Seems like your supporting some decent conditioning but at the expense of size..You're been training far too long to not be bigger than you are?
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The goal is conditioning for now. Not understanding the last question?i have Been consistently lifting with aas for little bit over 2 years starting and stopping previously which gets u no where. I can train as many days in a week as I decide to if I tired I go anyway even if the weights used suffer. if it's over 45 minutes I don't really care I enjoy lifting. I'm in the gym total time for about 1 hour and a half includes cardio and about 15 minutes of bullshiting with regulars when I'm done. What would u describe failure? U mean until u can't do anymore and then take weight off and do more until u can't do that amount anymore again.... I fail with standing over head press at 225"lbs around 12-15 reps depending on the day which means I can not make the bar go up anymore even if I cheat out the last one with sloppy form... Or am I doing shit wrong
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If you were training till true positive failure and doing 1 working set per excersize while implementing progressive overload while keeping gym time to under 45 mins and leaving knowing that you gave it your all...you would not be able to train more than 4-5 days a week with this style and maybe even less at first...You would grow much more as well..Seems like your supporting some decent conditioning but at the expense of size..You're been training far too long to not be bigger than you are?
sounds like you follow Dorian yates principles.
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The goal is conditioning for now. Not understanding the last question?i have Been consistently lifting with aas for little bit over 2 years starting and stopping previously which gets u no where. I can train as many days in a week as I decide to if I tired I go anyway even if the weights used suffer. if it's over 45 minutes I don't really care I enjoy lifting. I'm in the gym total time for about 1 hour and a half includes cardio and about 15 minutes of bullshiting with regulars when I'm done. What would u describe failure? U mean until u can't do anymore and then take weight off and do more until u can't do that amount anymore again.... I fail with standing over head press at 225"lbs around 12-15 reps depending on the day which means I can not make the bar go up anymore even if I cheat out the last one with sloppy form... Or am I doing shit wrong
once you train true positive failure or do forced negs during your workout you will be able to reach into the type 2b fibers you need for maximum mass growth which is basically someone being able to overcome genetic weak points and stimulate tougher fascias to grow which gives the REAL bodybuilder proportion..
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Ideal with a spotter. Once you feel like you can't get that next rep up with good form on your way down from your 5-6 rep or what have you..this is when we start venturing into the start of true positive failure..once you do not even have the confidence for the next rep is when you tap into yourself and get into a good mental mindset where you bang out the next rep by focusing a lot on breathing as well..once this rep is complete you try AGAIN and your partner gives you seconds to have a chance and will give you very minimal weight possible for you to get that weight up and once you're done that's when you start to REALLY stimulate those fibers and go AGAIN with bare minimum help from the spotter while he gives you a bit less time to do it yourself this time and after that last rep you're completely spent and have put more into that set and experiences more hardship than if you were to do 5 other sets with a lower weight 8-12 reps..this ensures you will not be able to train that muscle for most likely another weak and will force days off for feeding and growing :)
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Yep I agree with jizmo 100%. Ask me a year ago and I would say ya u can train 4 times a day on gear hehehhehehheehe. Guess what? You aren't making progress...
You gotta move weight up. You gotta tax your muscles joints cns etc. If you do that no way in hell you can work out 2 times a day or everyday .
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No luxury of a spotter most days and with free weights u gotta have one to train like that. I compensate with a drop set or more sets if no spotter. Not making excuses but I do train like this often and recently strained a peck on the flat bar bench press which is no longer on my list of tools. But I guarantee u if I'm forcing reps like that on a flat bench my tendons won't hold up or a peck will tear using heavy weights. My split goes chest, back, shoulder legs repeat throw arms in a different days usually bi with back ect....3 full days to recover on the muscles trained. 8 hours sleep 300-350 grams protein(egg whites chicken breast Nystrip salmon)ily carbs cycles from zero to whatever I feel I need fats come from meats and nuts havnt tracked cals or anything in a while because I was then started eating same shit everyday and just rotate carbs around. Winter time coming up I'm going to make a change in training to focus on size havnt really gave a fuck about size since December. It's time to grow and stop being a skinny bitch lol
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Btw could u post a pic? Just to ensure I'm not getting advise from a cross fit p99x looking dude. not calling u that
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if your pec and tendons cannot take a beating then you need more rest no? You say you cant train heavy because it will strain you...thats the whole point. maximum taxation on everything to hit all types of muscle fibers, cns, and tendons...you rest....you eat...you eat more. you take loads of gear.
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if your pec and tendons cannot take a beating then you need more rest no? You say you cant train heavy because it will strain you...thats the whole point. maximum taxation on everything to hit all types of muscle fibers, cns, and tendons...you rest....you eat...you eat more. you take loads of gear.
Time for you to post a pic as well my man. Lots of critisizing and no pics to know who this is all coming from. Since seeing WW's pics, you can't blame me.
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Lol I train heavy no longer will on bench press just used it as an example post up pics or opinion means absolutely dick.
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not gonna happen as I have other interests($,gear sources, connections) that far exceed a dead message board :P take my advice or not. Or read from bbers/trainers like Dorian, Ronnie coleman, DJ, chris aceto etc who say the same thing. Who are the best bbers witht he most density? The ones who train heavy. Now take dorian and compare him to phil heath. 2 diffrent looks. This has been talked about to death. HIGH IGF1, insulin, tren and high test = modern bbing no need to train super heavy to be big. If you want density and size with out slin and high IGF 1 u need heavy stimulation.
common sense after youu been trianin for more than any period of time. read books chiris aceto
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See it's easy fuck it post a pic bro everybody scared to im here to learn. Good excuse bro^^ u can c nasty superdrol gyno in this pic. Fuck
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Btw could u post a pic? Just to ensure I'm not getting advise from a cross fit p99x looking dude. not calling u that
I will not post a picture unless i feel it's completely necessary as i KNOW the principals that i preach are effective and have myself as a testimonial i do not watn anyone to think that certain ways of doing compound movements or certain training methods will make them look like i do, and then just listen to me for that reason with no logic behind it... That is what alot fo cult is,,is they would really like to acquire a certain look at any cost and i see alot of it with younger guys here...I want people to listen because they know it's right... Not by posting a picture of a good physique and then tricking themasses with bs training protocols and supplements... That is how fake-naturals with lean physiques have tricked and fooled so many in the past...
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Hmmm well I've went from 199 to 215-220 (depending on the day) in a years time heard branch warren say if u can add 10lbs of pure muscle in one year consistently then u r doing good. If u don't feel it's neccessary to post a pic then your credibility means u could b female who read a Dorian Yates book for all I know
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I will not post a picture unless i feel it's completely necessary as i KNOW the principals that i preach are effective and have myself as a testimonial i do not watn anyone to think that certain ways of doing compound movements or certain training methods will make them look like i do, and then just listen to me for that reason with no logic behind it... That is what alot fo cult is,,is they would really like to acquire a certain look at any cost and i see alot of it with younger guys here...I want people to listen because they know it's right... Not by posting a picture of a good physique and then tricking themasses with bs training protocols and supplements... That is how fake-naturals with lean physiques have tricked and fooled so many in the past...
nice try.
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nice try.
lol believe what you'd like
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not gonna happen as I have other interests($,gear sources, connections) that far exceed a dead message board :P take my advice or not. Or read from bbers/trainers like Dorian, Ronnie coleman, DJ, chris aceto etc who say the same thing. Who are the best bbers witht he most density? The ones who train heavy. Now take dorian and compare him to phil heath. 2 diffrent looks. This has been talked about to death. HIGH IGF1, insulin, tren and high test = modern bbing no need to train super heavy to be big. If you want density and size with out slin and high IGF 1 u need heavy stimulation.
common sense after youu been trianin for more than any period of time. read books chiris aceto
Who said they wanted to see your ugly ass mug??? I never showed mine! Just some pics. You know? Body shots so I can jerk off to later. Quick, need to bust one out soon...
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Hmmm well I've went from 199 to 215-220 (depending on the day) in a years time heard branch warren say if u can add 10lbs of pure muscle in one year consistently then u r doing good. If u don't feel it's neccessary to post a pic then your credibility means u could b female who read a Dorian Yates book for all I know
this is exactly what i'm talking about...Branch Warren = top level IFBB pro = whatever bolonie he says to you holds weight...what branch warren says in a 2 minute interview is not something to implement on a human life and base it's progress off of...I'm sure you have more respect for yourself than that...Sure 10lbs is good in a year depending on where you started from...Not necessarily for you though..Especially if over 5'10"...You said 2 years of serious training? 2 years of serious training as a natural 6lbm is good and especially if you aren't running conservative doses 10lbm is probably around average..but who knows these days with the terrible ways that people implement and tend to not emphasize their training..i'm trying to help you maximize everything and speed up the process without more anabolics or venturing into other avenues..reaching the AAS limit faster so to speak,
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not gonna happen as I have other interests($,gear sources, connections) that far exceed a dead message board :P take my advice or not. Or read from bbers/trainers like Dorian, Ronnie coleman, DJ, chris aceto etc who say the same thing. Who are the best bbers witht he most density? The ones who train heavy. Now take dorian and compare him to phil heath. 2 diffrent looks. This has been talked about to death. HIGH IGF1, insulin, tren and high test = modern bbing no need to train super heavy to be big. If you want density and size with out slin and high IGF 1 u need heavy stimulation.
common sense after youu been trianin for more than any period of time. read books chiris aceto
You deserve recognition as you've contributed in a positive manner to help others...Do not worry if you don't always get the appreciation you deserve as the generation is full of criticism and questionable self-sabotaging actions..Keep doing well my friend
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I'll do my own research then, just can't take your word for it. Appreciate the input brother like I said im here to learn. And to b honest I have learned more from the assholes in this site than any other place lots of good Info on everything around here if u can read passed all the shit talking lol
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read the acetoo book dont lsiten to just anyone even if they have magic pics...u know pics can be copy pastaed easily and stealed from others.
read, think, discuss, listen, experiment.
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I'll do my own research then, just can't take your word for it. Appreciate the input brother like I said im here to learn. And to b honest I have learned more from the assholes in this site than any other place lots of good Info on everything around here if u can read passed all the shit talking lol
I agree with this dude. If you can't post a pic than I sure as hell am not taking advice from you. Once I saw whitewidow I realized this is definitely not someone I am taking advice from. No offence WW, you're a super nice guy, but bb isn't for you man.
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I agree with this dude. If you can't post a pic than I sure as hell am not taking advice from you. Once I saw whitewidow I realized this is definitely not someone I am taking advice from. No offence WW, you're a super nice guy, but bb isn't for you man.
Don't worry.. I'm not offended in the slightest.. I have been in this industry for a while and am still young enough to be competing although i'm retired i still EASILY maintain a competitive physique..I know how this generation of people on bodybuilding boards are...You guys have EXACTLY proved the point i was trying to make . Which makes me want to post a photo even less than before. Don't care? Well...That's fine. Fact of the matter is, is that the principals of the training method i mentioned is a VERY EFFECTIVE method at gaining mass and a less balloony-look..DENSITY is the word i like to use to describe it...If you guys look past the advice given to the "picture" for credibility then you have philosophy of life completely wrong as well as a long history of paranoia and dissapointment in my book..Paranoia and no companionship have ruined this board..It's evident in this post..My physique is better than BOTH OF YOURS and i'm telling you that as a FACT.
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I agree with this dude. If you can't post a pic than I sure as hell am not taking advice from you. Once I saw whitewidow I realized this is definitely not someone I am taking advice from. No offence WW, you're a super nice guy, but bb isn't for you man.
Lol, sick build man! Thats how i wanna look
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I'll do my own research then, just can't take your word for it. Appreciate the input brother like I said im here to learn. And to b honest I have learned more from the assholes in this site than any other place lots of good Info on everything around here if u can read passed all the shit talking lol
I'm not offended in the slightest as i was trying to go out of my way to help you and you aren't entitled to listen to me...When i see potential there i can hardly hesitate to give off advice because i know and have been there..I can recognize things as i've had clients like you..Clients older and younger..Still suggest you look into dorian-style training for yourself if you need credibility look at his physique...If you feel that it's the drugs that made his physique then why even look into another training method and just up your dose if you know the answer? just my opinion... I'm not saying you said that either..Just a very common answer from this generation
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Lol, sick build man! Thats how i wanna look
Thanks man! I gotta say all the guys pitching advice do not look good. I promise you that. Whomever it was saying I won't take advice from someone that wont post a pic is bang on
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I'm on Google Dorian Yates . Really surprised u didn't get offended... And my dosages r probly not going up I won't ever take more than what I have before. XFactor u look badass to me. David u sound like u give good advise and speak from experience so I'm looking into it. But fuck u with the physiques better than yours is a fact shit! U havnt even put up a damn calve pic to prove it lol
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I thought you were black. Why post your face on a drug board? Are you retarded?
Smething is going on with him and these pics. Feels like a sting or something. Even has his name on these pics. I dont feel comfortable with this thread honestly. Just feels "off"
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I'm on Google Dorian Yates . Really surprised u didn't get offended... And my dosages r probly not going up I won't ever take more than what I have before. XFactor u look badass to me. David u sound like u give good advise and speak from experience so I'm looking into it. But fuck u with the physiques better than yours is a fact shit! U havnt even put up a damn calve pic to prove it lol
Put it into perspective that Xfactor has been member here for about 10 years and has a negligible physique while on hormones year round that could not compete at top amateur level...So to take advice from someone like that would be more stupid than taking advice from the local high shcool JV football coach i'm sorry to say it..You could put a wheesel boy with progeria on tren for 8 years and he will look much better doing JV football workouts full body workouts...Shit gh15 showed you how in 8-10 short months you can become an ifbb pro.....You think many people here have taken injectable lasix pre contest and pissed like a racehorse before they got on stage? Or taken 5 tablespoons of GHB during prep and pre training being high as a kite like we've seen evan centofani in videos like i have?..Remember that the stylish things in modern day USA are the ones that get all the attention whether it's for the better or th worse..everyone followed magazine workouts and high rep getting pumps training and nobody listened to dorian-style until when you may guess?? WHEN HE BECAME MR OLYMPIA..Then everyone asks him "What did you do mr dorian" well very simple..These methods worked BEFORE he became the mr olympia and they're continuing to work after...
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Put it into perspective that Xfactor has been member here for about 10 years and has a negligible physique while on hormones year round that could not compete at top amateur level...So to take advice from someone like that would be more stupid than taking advice from the local high shcool JV football coach i'm sorry to say it..You could put a wheesel boy with progeria on tren for 8 years and he will look much better doing JV football workouts full body workouts...Shit gh15 showed you how in 8-10 short months you can become an ifbb pro.....You think many people here have taken injectable lasix pre contest and pissed like a racehorse before they got on stage? Or taken 5 tablespoons of GHB during prep and pre training being high as a kite like we've seen evan centofani in videos like i have?..Remember that the stylish things in modern day USA are the ones that get all the attention whether it's for the better or th worse..everyone followed magazine workouts and high rep getting pumps training and nobody listened to dorian-style until when you may guess?? WHEN HE BECAME MR OLYMPIA..Then everyone asks him "What did you do mr dorian" well very simple..These methods worked BEFORE he became the mr olympia and they're continuing to work after...
Your jealousy runs deep. So deep you post paragraphs and paragraphs. I can own your efforts here in a snap shot. Typical google kid.
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Smething is going on with him and these pics. Feels like a sting or something. Even has his name on these pics. I dont feel comfortable with this thread honestly. Just feels "off"
Agreed did someone hack this guys account?
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Your jealousy runs deep. So deep you post paragraphs and paragraphs. I can own your efforts here in a snap shot. Typical google kid.
I've mustered up enough responses for you an spent too much time typing that you didn't deserve...You're confident but shouldn't be
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dorian_yates_training_insight.htm
For anybody else interested
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Put it into perspective that Xfactor has been member here for about 10 years and has a negligible physique while on hormones year round that could not compete at top amateur level...So to take advice from someone like that would be more stupid than taking advice from the local high shcool JV football coach i'm sorry to say it..You could put a wheesel boy with progeria on tren for 8 years and he will look much better doing JV football workouts full body workouts...Shit gh15 showed you how in 8-10 short months you can become an ifbb pro.....You think many people here have taken injectable lasix pre contest and pissed like a racehorse before they got on stage? Or taken 5 tablespoons of GHB during prep and pre training being high as a kite like we've seen evan centofani in videos like i have?..Remember that the stylish things in modern day USA are the ones that get all the attention whether it's for the better or th worse..everyone followed magazine workouts and high rep getting pumps training and nobody listened to dorian-style until when you may guess?? WHEN HE BECAME MR OLYMPIA..Then everyone asks him "What did you do mr dorian" well very simple..These methods worked BEFORE he became the mr olympia and they're continuing to work after...
Evan uses GHB? Haah wouldnt suprise me though
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Evan uses GHB? Haah wouldnt suprise me though
Yess,and as many others do....Evan is one of the ones that is very health conscious or "self-aware" of what he's doing to his body...YET he caught the bug and has a dream..You'll see in miltuple videos of Evan that he's not shy about sharing with the viewers his concerns with bodybuilding and it's detrimental effects on the human body at the professional level...These are the bodybuilders with potential that will NEVER reach top 3 olympia because he is just flat out not willing to risk pre-contest ritual that is sick in the head and makes the bodybuilder sick to his stomach literally and figuratively.. He won't be able to bring that extra level..As you can see he didn't do particularly great at the arnold classic... and was.....irreleant,,He knwos it's not joke but it's better than SOME alternatives because he does not have to taper off of it which is a process in itself that can be very easily messed up given the tons of other things he has to worry about during the day with injection and meal timing pre contest...You don't see evan out in the public as much as other bb's at his level...He can afford to...Not LITERALLY, but FIGURATIVELY speaking...He has the time to be F'd up on drugs..
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Yikes fuk all that shit. It's a Rough sport at the top
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I've mustered up enough responses for you an spent too much time typing that you didn't deserve...You're confident but shouldn't be
Oh I'm confident, this is how me and my physique roll into the office. How about you man?
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The sun blocking the Rolex face bro
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Oh I'm confident, this is how me and my physique roll into the office. How about you man?
You glued a Ferrari badge to your Nissan micra?
Seriously tho, you must be doing very well for your self.
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Oh I'm confident, this is how me and my physique roll into the office. How about you man?
What kind of job are you in where u can make dough like that and have a full sleeve?
Its cool you make lots of dough, but the porsche and roleynand all of that is just american-ized Yuppie culture of consumerism. I feel like baby boomers in their 50-70s find all that shit appealing. Young professionals seem to shy away from that yuppie culture now. I always find it cool to hear about guys with millions who roll around in a 1989 pontiac. That is epic confidence and self awareness at its fullest. Hell, my wife bought a lexus and im almost embarrased to drive around in it. Just not my style.
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What kind of job are you in where u can make dough like that and have a full sleeve?
Its cool you make lots of dough, but the porsche and roleynand all of that is just american-ized Yuppie culture of consumerism. I always find it cool to hear about guys with millions who roll around in a 1989 pontiac. That is epic confidence and self awareness at its fullest. Hell, my wife bought a lexus and im almost embarrased to drive around in it. Just not my style.
was kinda curious about that as well...
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was kinda curious about that as well...
If you're at the point where you can make a lot of doe then i can't really see many jobs that wouldn't allow you to have a sleeve? I don't think it really matters
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If you're at the point where you can make a lot of doe then i can't really see many jobs that wouldn't allow you to have a sleeve? I don't think it really matters
Ah, that explains it then!
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What kind of job are you in where u can make dough like that and have a full sleeve?
Its cool you make lots of dough, but the porsche and roleynand all of that is just american-ized Yuppie culture of consumerism. I feel like baby boomers in their 50-70s find all that shit appealing. Young professionals seem to shy away from that yuppie culture now. I always find it cool to hear about guys with millions who roll around in a 1989 pontiac. That is epic confidence and self awareness at its fullest. Hell, my wife bought a lexus and im almost embarrased to drive around in it. Just not my style.
I am a managing partner of a software development company. Just bought out our second competitor this year. Hard work, execution of a good idea, good timing, and a little luck hit the jackpot.
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I am a managing partner of a software development company. Just bought out our second competitor this year. Hard work, execution of a good idea, good timing, and a little luck hit the jackpot.
you a programmer?
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you a programmer?
No but I have 50 working for me
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No but I have 50 working for me
Howd u get to that point
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Howd u get to that point
MBA, learned to sell, thought of an idea, raised capital, execution, rest is history. Growing like crazy yet doing so sustainably.
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MBA, learned to sell, thought of an idea, raised capital, execution, rest is history. Growing like crazy yet doing so sustainably.
Did the mba help much? Or was it just for networking Really?
Also, what goes into raising capital? Like u go door to door? Ask fam and friends.? Sorry just relly curious in shit that matters. This thread is way more interesting with you in it. Thanks
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One thing I know is 100% true is all the top drug and prep gurus look very average it dosn't mean they don't have the knowledge. ALOT of Bodybuilders hire John O'reagon he's not in shape dosn;t look like he has ever lifted but he has insane drug knowledgeable with the whole science of AAS use, he got numerous guys their pro cards. chris aceto he is skin and bone and he got numerous Bodybuilders their pro cards. hany rambod -the guy is fat as fuck and he has gotten ton of guys their pro cards and has helped Phil heath, jay cuttler get their sandows. I know they are so called "prep coaches" but these guys do give drug advise!
george farah-fakhri Muburak- Both are just decent prep guys but they look better physicaly then the above listed names. I went through a Fitness technology course and also went through pharmaceutical tech school so I def know how drugs work. That dosn't mean I have great genetics. I know how to stack drugs though. everybody is going to respond diffrent. I kept my side effects to a minimum. These pics are taken with a 10$ phone. It's also a transformation thread. I never said I was so many weeks out! just watch. This will be a crazy transformation. I know because I have hit peak conditioning with size. I was younger but I'll hit it again. It might take another 8 months but I'll get there.
You also got to take into account I got fucked up my back and neck discs is a car wreck also got hooked on pain pills , I didn't train for years! This is 8 months of consistent training that's all. I only have been using higher dosges mainly during my cutting stack because I used alot of fast acting AAS wich required daily injections.
I purposely got small! My BF% at 220lbs was just too high. I want to do it 100% right this time.I'll buy a better phone and belive me in 8 months totally diffrent story. My strength is still there and I'm hungry to get back in PEAK condition with size. For those who think I should hide who I am there is no point! I have nothing to hide! I don't do anything where i would have to hide my indentitiy. Not saying my past was great but diffrent person for now.
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Time for you to post a pic as well my man. Lots of critisizing and no pics to know who this is all coming from. Since seeing WW's pics, you can't blame me.
Oh geez brother your pics were nothing special.Mine were taken with a 10$ phone.not impressive in photos-in person diffrent story plus I'm a pretty boy probably overall better looking and way tanner. You have a Good build but nothing mind blowing. how would your drug knowledge be better? did you go to college for this type of stuff. I could go on and on about top drug/prep gurus who don't touch weights. It's science brother. It's knowing half-lifes and training when your at peak hormone levels. alot of diet and meal timing is also involved but IFBB pros hire guys who are good at that they don't know shit about it. They just have the genetics.
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you at least posted pics. I can handle you but I don't like guys who talk and don't post pics. xfactor posted his pics,Ptest posted his,walter white posted his, ritch posted his so at least they got balls this is getbig of course guys are going to criticise.
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Did the mba help much? Or was it just for networking Really?
Also, what goes into raising capital? Like u go door to door? Ask fam and friends.? Sorry just relly curious in shit that matters. This thread is way more interesting with you in it. Thanks
he went on shark tank.
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he went on shark tank.
Lmao fuck that show.
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he went on shark tank.
Lmao!!! WW for the win
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Lmao!!! WW for the win
don't lie Mark Cuban gets 25%-JK. good work brother! I also work my butt off.
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Oh I'm confident, this is how me and my physique roll into the office. How about you man?
Nice upgrade from the Cayman.
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I always enjoy the pissing contest picture threads. ;D
WW looks great and so does everyone else on this forum. I tend to take advice from guys who "look the part" and i believe WW does look great. Also, the information he has provided over the last ~10 years on this board is consistant with a wealth of knowledge. I also know guys who look like crap, who know a ton. Disgusted knows more about this game than almost anyone on this board and if you saw him in person you wouldn't think he "looked" like one of the top guru's in this game.
My personal .02, don't criticize another man's build if you won't post up yours.
Looking great studs. Would love to "train" with some of you.
Maybe i'll take a picture of what i drive to work everyday. I must say i'm way outmatched in the watch category though. :D
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I learn something new everyday here it may b a tough crowd but this site has more info than any other bbing site.
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Maybe i'll take a picture of what i drive to work everyday. I must say i'm way outmatched in the watch category though. :D
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I was thinking about doing the same but didn't want people melting down over my Corolla...
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I learn something new everyday here it may b a tough crowd but this site has more info than any other bbing site.
For sure.
Once you wade through all the bullshit, there is more real information here than anywhere else IMO.
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I was thinking about doing the same but didn't want people melting down over my Corolla...
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My 1996 Camry is up for some competition.
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I always enjoy the pissing contest picture threads. ;D
WW looks great and so does everyone else on this forum. I tend to take advice from guys who "look the part" and i believe WW does look great. Also, the information he has provided over the last ~10 years on this board is consistant with a wealth of knowledge. I also know guys who look like crap, who know a ton. Disgusted knows more about this game than almost anyone on this board and if you saw him in person you wouldn't think he "looked" like one of the top guru's in this game.
My personal .02, don't criticize another man's build if you won't post up yours.
Looking great studs. Would love to "train" with some of you.
Maybe i'll take a picture of what i drive to work everyday. I must say i'm way outmatched in the watch category though. :D
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Disgusted is actually quite big (if I remember right).
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Disgusted is actually quite big (if I remember right).
He was a very well built man when he was younger.
No disrespect to Jim, i was just making a point that today you would never realize it by looking at him.
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He was a very well built man when he was younger.
No disrespect to Jim, i was just making a point that today you would never realize it by looking at him.
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I know you aren't disrespecting him. He's a good dude and I doubt he has many enemies.
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Ok time for this weeks update pictures. I threw in some anadrol and upped my AI's wound up bigger,fuller, more capped delts, also dryer and harder.
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For sure.
Once you wade through all the bullshit, there is more real information here than anywhere else IMO.
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totally agree, been on and off this cite for over ten years
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In my 50's and started trt doses at 50. Was a top powelifter but at 24 bailed for my corporate career. From 24 to 50 no gear and a crazy response when I started (30lb weight gain). I decided to try some test and gh due to a cervical spinal injury which was casing me to lose strength in my left arm and excruciating pain.
Looking awsome bro!