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Title: behind the back shrugs, any good?
Post by: judochoke on August 05, 2015, 09:51:48 AM
do these work for the traps? seeing guys doing them, anyone tried them. trying to get my traps bigger.
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Post by: SF1900 on August 05, 2015, 09:52:26 AM
I do them on the smith  machine.  I tried to do them with a free weight barbell but it was too awkward.
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Post by: _aj_ on August 05, 2015, 09:56:02 AM
It feels like something that puts your shoulder in an awkward position and could have injury potential at higher weights. Try using slightly lighter DBs and instead of pulling your shoulders up to your ears, try to pull your shoulders up while pulling your scapulae together in the upper back. Squeeze and hold at the top.
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Post by: SquidVicious on August 05, 2015, 09:57:27 AM
Made famous by Lee Haney in one of his old videos. We all tried them and none of us developed Lee Haney like traps. End story. 
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Post by: The Ugly on August 05, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
Worked for Haney.

Tried them for a bit, but my ass always impeded the peak contraction.
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Post by: ritch on August 05, 2015, 11:10:27 AM
put this is the training section dude...
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Post by: local hero on August 05, 2015, 11:14:28 AM
Worked for Haney.

Tried them for a bit, but my ass always impeded the peak contraction.


Yeh, unless you have no ass they are very awkward...

B/bell shrugs to the front, d/bell seated or standing... Deadlifts and rack pulls, all better options
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Post by: residue on August 05, 2015, 11:15:14 AM

Yeh, unless you have no ass they are very awkward...

B/bell shrugs to the front, d/bell seated or standing... Deadlifts and rack pulls, all better options

hang cleans i feel are the best for traps, or at least they get my traps pumped the best
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Post by: pissant on August 05, 2015, 11:20:38 AM
they work....do them...do all sorts of shrugs....stop being guys guys
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Post by: Royalty on August 05, 2015, 11:32:48 AM
It feels like something that puts your shoulder in an awkward position and could have injury potential at higher weights. Try using slightly lighter DBs and instead of pulling your shoulders up to your ears, try to pull your shoulders up while pulling your scapulae together in the upper back. Squeeze and hold at the top.

Your trap bar makes the behind the back shrug exercise with the Olympic bar obsolete
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Post by: michael arvilla on August 05, 2015, 11:48:04 AM
Made famous by Lee Haney in one of his old videos. We all tried them and none of us developed Lee Haney like traps. End story. 
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This lol!
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 05, 2015, 12:21:17 PM
I've hung out and trained with Lee quite a few times when I was in school in Atlanta.  He really did do these exclusively for traps.  He once said "what works doesn't really make for a pretty picture".  Meaning that the photos in the magazines often showed him doing exercises just for that occasion and that he normally did not do.  Like dumb bell shrugs and upright rows.
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Post by: Hulkotron on August 05, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
Curls, do you do them?
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Post by: Royalty on August 05, 2015, 01:21:48 PM
I've hung out and trained with Lee quite a few times when I was in school in Atlanta.  He really did do these exclusively for traps.  He once said "what works doesn't really make for a pretty picture".  Meaning that the photos in the magazines often showed him doing exercises just for that occasion and that he normally did not do.  Like dumb bell shrugs and upright rows.

On his tv show he also performed cable upright rows with the EZ attachment.
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Post by: liberty on August 05, 2015, 01:41:23 PM
Ronnie did the behind the back barb shrugs....pretty short ROM

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Post by: calfzilla on August 05, 2015, 01:46:19 PM
No. I did them once on the smith machine (behind the back) and tweaked my neck real bad.
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Post by: funk51 on August 05, 2015, 01:48:56 PM
Ronnie did the behind the back barb shrugs....pretty short ROM


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Post by: wes on August 05, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
Try behind the back upright rows on the Smith Machine instead.....far far better.


Just pull up as far as you can and squeeze the upper back/traps area.


You`ll have to go with a slightly wider than shoulder width grip and avoid your butt by thrusting hips a bit forward.

NO HOMO
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 05, 2015, 07:26:01 PM
On his tv show he also performed cable upright rows with the EZ attachment.

Yeah he did a lot on tv and in the magazines that he never did in real life.
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Post by: CalvinH on August 06, 2015, 06:36:41 AM
All shrugs are good :)
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Post by: hench on August 06, 2015, 06:45:21 AM
Trained traps heavy early on, with regular grip and behind back grip, today i still have big developed traps even with much less training and just maintenance work, they worked for me.
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Post by: Schnauzer on August 06, 2015, 06:54:40 AM
Upright rows are all you need to do for traps
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Post by: hench on August 06, 2015, 06:57:49 AM
They're good too, found shrugs really develop the full width better though.

Upright rows are all you need to do for traps
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Post by: Yamcha on August 06, 2015, 08:50:43 AM
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Post by: Mr.1derful on August 06, 2015, 10:15:51 AM
Ronnie did the behind the back barb shrugs....pretty short ROM



I'd say non-existent.  Horrid form with way too much weight.  But, has the audacity to proclaim that it was light.  Get real, Ronnie. 
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Post by: Big Daddy Caine on August 06, 2015, 10:55:11 AM
When I do them, I try not to go too  heavy like we would normally do with regular shrugs, but go for more reps.  You'll feel them all over the traps rather than just at the top of the traps.
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Post by: The Ugly on August 06, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
Really can't beat dumbbell shrugs, though. Up/rearward, hold for a beat. Repeat.

Also find it best to hold them to the side, lengthwise (mimicking barbell), inner end against outer quad; rather than in front riding up on thighs, or to the side, perpendicular, like Dorian.

Not sure why, just discovered a better peak contraction this way through trial and error.
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Post by: CalvinH on August 06, 2015, 01:29:30 PM
Really can't beat dumbbell shrugs, though. Up/rearward, hold for a beat. Repeat.

Also find it best to hold them to the side, lengthwise (mimicking barbell), inner end against outer quad; rather than in front riding up on thighs, or to the side, perpendicular, like Dorian.

Not sure why, just discovered a better peak contraction this way through trial and error.

Do them just like that then as soon as you finish a set grab light db's {around 40-45lbs}
then bang out reps where you start at the top of the contraction then only lower 1-2 inches and go back up for 10-12 reps...its killer :)
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Post by: The Ugly on August 06, 2015, 01:33:36 PM
Do them just like that then as soon as you finish a set grab light db's {around 40-45lbs}
then bang out reps where you start at the top of the contraction then only lower 1-2 inches and go back up for 10-12 reps...its killer :)


Ya know, don't think I've ever applied drop sets here. Never needed to, I guess, usually struggling with last reps anyway. Love them with laterals, though.
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Post by: CalvinH on August 06, 2015, 01:40:30 PM
Ya know, don't think I've ever applied drop sets here. Never needed to, I guess, usually struggling with last reps anyway. Love them with laterals, though.


Hmm, I've never even thought of them as a drop set, it's not even half a rep more like a quarter rep.
but you really feel it when you do them.
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Post by: The Ugly on August 06, 2015, 03:52:20 PM

Hmm, I've never even thought of them as a drop set, it's not even half a rep more like a quarter rep.
but you really feel it when you do them.

Ok, appreciate the tip, whatever they're called.
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Post by: wes on August 06, 2015, 03:55:43 PM
Another good one is "armpit rows"...hold 2 bells at outer quads and pull up as far as you can endeavoring to pull into your armpits.


Killer pump.
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Post by: hench on August 06, 2015, 04:55:08 PM
Never heard of these before, are they your invention?

Another good one is "armpit rows"...hold 2 bells at outer quads and pull up as far as you can endeavoring to pull into your armpits.


Killer pump.
Title: Re: behind the back shrugs, any good?
Post by: wes on August 06, 2015, 11:46:32 PM
Never heard of these before, are they your invention?

Nope.read about them in an article by Ron Harris and gave them a shot............hold in top position for peak contraction.
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Post by: Howard on August 07, 2015, 08:00:54 AM
do these work for the traps? seeing guys doing them, anyone tried them. trying to get my traps bigger.

I think it's only good for destroying your rotator cuff.
Do reg shurgs with an explosive up move and brief hold on top for better trap stimulation.
Title: Re: behind the back shrugs, any good?
Post by: robcguns on August 07, 2015, 08:32:18 AM
It feels like something that puts your shoulder in an awkward position and could have injury potential at higher weights. Try using slightly lighter DBs and instead of pulling your shoulders up to your ears, try to pull your shoulders up while pulling your scapulae together in the upper back. Squeeze and hold at the top.

Exactly what i started doing a few months ago and it made a big difference.
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Post by: _aj_ on August 07, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
http://anabolicminds.com/articles/build-big-trap-muscles-for-more-powerful-shoulders-17895/
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Post by: Victor VonDoom on August 07, 2015, 09:53:31 AM
Not sure anyone got huge from doing them.  Bah!