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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 18, 2015, 01:11:44 PM
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The reason for Kai leaving MuscleMeds was because he wanted to raise in compensation. According to documents I've obtained from a private super duper secret source, Kai was making 40k a month.
What do you Edo.....err Heb.......err Getbiggers thinks
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The reason for Kai leaving MuscleMeds was because he wanted to raise in compensation. According to documents I've obtained from a private super duper secret source, Kai was making 40k a month.
What do you Edo.....err Heb.......err Getbiggers thinks
Do you make this shit up as you go along?
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Do you make this shit up as you go along?
Nope...he was really paid 480k a year. I'm as surprised as anyone else
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Was probably seeking an excuse to go back to doing more gay private hustling as that's what he truly enjoys...
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No offense Vince but until HarleyBrite confirms these details I will treat it as hearsay.
You're losing your position on this site as The Insider, step your game up.
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i dont understand why they contract bodybuilders to begin with.
back in the day dorian yates did ads for hammer strength - they paid him by shipping a few machines to his gym.
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Nope...he was really paid 480k a year. I'm as surprised as anyone else
NO way was he making 480K per year..that was probably the entire income of the company
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NO way was he making 480K per year..that was probably the entire income of the company
Chuckle......MuscleMeds did 40M last year. They can afford it
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Sure, you have the 'documents' ::)
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Chuckle......MuscleMeds did 40M last year. They can afford it
Hey Vince..why not hire a well known bodybuilder for Caliber???....I know you don't have the income to pay them but you could give them a piece of the action.....sales will go up and the BB'er could make their money back based on a percentage of that.....
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The reason for Kai leaving MuscleMeds was because he wanted to raise in compensation. According to documents I've obtained from a private super duper secret source, Kai was making 40k a month.
What do you Edo.....err Heb.......err Getbiggers thinks
I think you need to get a life
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I am very surprised if this is true Voodoo Vince sounds well over the odds for the realm of bodybuilding. Besides, why would Kai want a raise if he was already cleaning up that much dough?
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I don't know who Vince G is, but he is not wrong on the sum Kai was being paid.
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I don't know who Vince G is, but he is not wrong on the sum Kai was being paid.
How do you know???.....I just don't see ANY bodybuilder walking away from $40,000 a month......NO WAY
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How do you know???.....I just don't see ANY bodybuilder walking away from $40,000 a month......NO WAY
It's over 1k/day, lol! Insane.....
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that is a lot of money from a company that i have never heard a single person mention besides kai greene
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that is a lot of money from a company that i have never heard a single person mention besides kai greene
That's my contention
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I don't know who Vince G is, but he is not wrong on the sum Kai was being paid.
ok thanks for the insider info Harley we are lucky to have you on board
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I don't know who Vince G is, but he is not wrong on the sum Kai was being paid.
That's a lot of grapefruit!!! :o
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I don't know who Vince G is, but he is not wrong on the sum Kai was being paid.
Harley as another said pleasure to have you here and your inside knowledge. Does that make Kai the best paid bodybuilder supplement company wise?
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I am very surprised if this is true Voodoo Vince sounds well over the odds for the realm of bodybuilding. Besides, why would Kai want a raise if he was already cleaning up that much dough?
He prob got a larger offer from another company...either that or they were looking to cut his compensation at the time.
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I don't know who Vince G is, but he is not wrong on the sum Kai was being paid.
can you share some east coast bodybuilding stories with us?
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He prob got a larger offer from another company...either that or they were looking to cut his compensation at the time.
What do your sources tell you?
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He prob got a larger offer from another company...either that or they were looking to cut his compensation at the time.
vince go away we have Harley now
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Hey Vince..why not hire a well known bodybuilder for Caliber???....I know you don't have the income to pay them but you could give them a piece of the action.....sales will go up and the BB'er could make their money back based on a percentage of that.....
I only have 1 person on payroll which is a data entry clerk from India and I pay her 10,000 rupees a month. I own tons of stock photo so I don't need to hire any bodybuilders.
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I only have 1 person on payroll which is a data entry clerk from india and I pay her 10,000 rupees a month. I own tons of stock photo so I don't need to hire any bodybuilders.
I stand corrected....party on!
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Lol bullshit. More like 4800a month and even then...i call bullshit
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He was on the road for at least 25 weeks a year. I believe it.
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If he generates a nice return then he gets paid that.
My wife earns 400k + as a doctor but generates many millions for the company she works for.
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There's lots of gullible natties out there throwing $$$ at fart-powder, apparently.
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Hey Guys,
MuscleMeds is owned by MHP which is a highly profitable company.
Yes, I know my Training Partner Craig Richardson is one of their spokespersons, so you think I am going to promote their products.
WRONG!!!!
I've never taken their products so I have no right to comment on them particularly.
As far as Kai leaving, I did report that to you guys on August 6th before the news broke.
Why Kai would want to leave is up for speculation but he was no big fan of traveling, had serious issues in South America in terms of
people even wanting him back and NEVER shows up on time even when he forces the company to pick him up and drive him to and from.
Those are not characteristics of someone who enjoys being a "company man."
My understanding is that Kai had a tough upbringing, financially speaking, so perhaps the fact that he has been earning very decent money
for several years now has both satiated him and infused him with the strength and confidence to negotiate what he feels, are more pleasurable
terms for himself.
Harley
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Hey Guys,
MuscleMeds is owned by MHP which is a highly profitable company.
Yes, I know my Training Partner Craig Richardson is one of their spokespersons, so you think I am going to promote their products.
WRONG!!!!
I've never taken their products so I have no right to comment on them particularly.
As far as Kai leaving, I did report that to you guys on August 6th before the news broke.
Why Kai would want to leave is up for speculation but he was no big fan of traveling, had serious issues in South America in terms of
people even wanting him back and NEVER shows up on time even when he forces the company to pick him up and drive him to and from.
Those are not characteristics of someone who enjoys being a "company man."
My understanding is that Kai had a tough upbringing, financially speaking, so perhaps the fact that he has been earning very decent money
for several years now has both satiated him and infused him with the strength and confidence to negotiate what he feels, are more pleasurable
terms for himself.
Harley
Mr Harley, please start your own Q & A thread to share anything about bodybuilding you would like to share with us on getbig
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Dear Schmoff,
I recently came back to writing on GetBig when I saw someone started a thread about one of my client (I am a criminal defense lawyer) and there
was a courtroom picture of me with the client. Somebody facetiously asked, "Who is that GetBigger with the Defendant?" so I responded it was me.
Well, that led to a great deal of skepticism that I was a "gimmick" (just learned that term here) so I continued to write stuff.
That thread is entitled "New Jersey Man Pleads Guilty to Hitting Friend with 25 pound dumbbell". It's recent.
I also created a thread offering a free Craig Richardson Training Session, Seminar and Lunch. That is recent too.
I have posted here in the past (to much dislike I might add) but would be happy to discuss things if someone would just start a thread so I can keep on track
and be focused for each topic. If each topic had a thread, I could respond more quickly and easily.
I am always happy to share what I have experienced in my 17 years as Craig's Training Partner and friend. I have seen a great deal "behind the yellow tape"
and I owe nothing to any companies, judges or political jerks so I am free to speak my mind.
Harley
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Accurate. Phil was getting about the same, half a mil a year. Left for a cool mil with this new thing. kai's the #2 BBer in the world, and way less hated than Phil.
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Dear Schmoff,
I don't know how or where to "start my own Q&A thread" but if you are really interested, I would do it once someone
makes it idiot simple in terms of directions.
I would like it to stay in Gossip & Opinions as that is where I follow and I think the most people reside. Is that possible?
Harley
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Guys,
Remember, the money also lies in the company's ability to control for whom the bodybuilder does photo shoots.
Some companies have relations with particular magazines and some preclude you from doing shoots for other magazines.
Some companies will only keep you if you can keep your writing gig or photo contract with another magazine.
Harley
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Good for Kai. I am pleased a street guy has taken the bull by the horns and turned his life around and is now raking in the dough. I wonder if he's gonna use that money to start his own thing now like major rival Philip?
Ps Harley my good buddy what sort of money do you reckon Rich Piana is pulling in?
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Dear Rascal full,
I have to plead ignorance as to knowing who Richard Piana is.
I see he has a thread on GetBig but the pictures don't paint a very flattering portrait of guy with much going for himself.
Again, I could be wrong, but I just glanced to see if he was someone whose physique I would admire or if the thread had hot
chicks with implants.
Harley
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Guys,
Remember, the money also lies in the company's ability to control for whom the bodybuilder does photo shoots.
Some companies have relations with particular magazines and some preclude you from doing shoots for other magazines.
Some companies will only keep you if you can keep your writing gig or photo contract with another magazine.
Harley
Are you on a typewriter or something? Your posting style is strange. ???
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I am not on a typewriter, but rather, a computer just like most others.
Perhaps my "style is strange" because I am a bit obsessed with keeping proper grammar and writing style which
is not necessary on sites but it's just the way I write. I do quite a bit of writing for a living so it spills over.
Additionally, I can't criticize the current American culture for its lack of proper grammar, diction and vocabulary if
I myself, abandon it too.
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Dear Rascal full,
I have to plead ignorance as to knowing who Richard Piana is.
I see he has a thread on GetBig but the pictures don't paint a very flattering portrait of guy with much going for himself.
Again, I could be wrong, but I just glanced to see if he was someone whose physique I would admire or if the thread had hot
chicks with implants.
Harley
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bXNEv1fIfmI/maxresdefault.jpg)
Amazingly this guy is not as dumb as he looks. Quite articulate in his own way and got his own supplement company which sells worldwide.
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Also, I have some inside news on a very big supplement company.
One of the biggest names out there has failed to pay one of its athletes, a very famous UFC star from New Jersey.
I haven't seen that written anywhere on GetBig yet so, again, remember that I wrote it first when it hits big.
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Also, I have some inside news on a very big supplement company.
One of the biggest names out there has failed to pay one of its athletes, a very famous UFC star from New Jersey.
I haven't seen that written anywhere on GetBig yet so, again, remember that I wrote it first when it hits big.
More info please Harley
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Hey Guys,
MuscleMeds is owned by MHP which is a highly profitable company.
Yes, I know my Training Partner Craig Richardson is one of their spokespersons, so you think I am going to promote their products.
WRONG!!!!
I've never taken their products so I have no right to comment on them particularly.
As far as Kai leaving, I did report that to you guys on August 6th before the news broke.
Why Kai would want to leave is up for speculation but he was no big fan of traveling, had serious issues in South America in terms of
people even wanting him back and NEVER shows up on time even when he forces the company to pick him up and drive him to and from.
Those are not characteristics of someone who enjoys being a "company man."
My understanding is that Kai had a tough upbringing, financially speaking, so perhaps the fact that he has been earning very decent money
for several years now has both satiated him and infused him with the strength and confidence to negotiate what he feels, are more pleasurable
terms for himself.
Harley
Kai Greene was the reason people ever paid attention to Muscle Meds. He literally built the foundation from being the #2 bodybuilder in the world.....it definitely wasn't Craig Richardson that was doing it. In fact, I wasn't aware he was employed by the company. In addition, I would have to seriously doubt your accusation that he wasn't a company man because he was with MuscleMeds for many years. If he wasn't a team player, they would have gotten rid of him a long time ago.
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Kai Greene was the reason people ever paid attention to Muscle Meds. He literally built the foundation from being the #2 bodybuilder in the world.....it definitely wasn't Craig Richardson that was doing it. In fact, I wasn't aware he was employed by the company. In addition, I would have to seriously doubt your accusation that he wasn't a company man because he was with MuscleMeds for many years. If he wasn't a team player, they would have gotten rid of him a long time ago.
Voodoo you need to up your game to keep up with Harley. He is bringing pure knowledge my brother!
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Dear Vince,
I could not agree with you more in that, without Kai, no one would know of MuscleMeds.
I never once claimed Craig Richardson did anything to elevate the status of MuscleMeds.
The fact that you didn't know Craig was employed by MHP is ok too. It's not critical to world peace.
Being with a new company for a few years does not necessarily make you a "company man,' your actions do.
Kai is a very individualistic person and tying him down to deadlines, schedules and appointments is probably a bit
uncomfortable for him. That is in no way meant to be an insult.
And in closing, I have met Kai many times and he has been nothing short of polite and friendly to me each time.
Harley
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Dear Rascal Full,
I have a good faith reason to believe that Gaspari Nutrition is long overdue on paying Frankie Edgar.
Harley
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Dear Rascal Full,
I have a good faith reason to believe that Gaspari Nutrition is long overdue on paying Frankie Edgar.
Harley
Poor Frankie! Thanks for tipping the info Mr Breite.
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Chuckle......MuscleMeds did 40M last year. They can afford it
MuscleMeds is part of MHP, so saying that MuscleMeds did 40M last year is a little off. they combine all of their companies into one group now, which includes Musclemeds, MHP, and Sera-Pharma, among others. They are based in New Jersey.
Kai Greene was the reason people ever paid attention to Muscle Meds. He literally built the foundation from being the #2 bodybuilder in the world.....it definitely wasn't Craig Richardson that was doing it
Kai didn't build MuscleMeds at all. They were the first to have Carnivore, which is a beef protein, which became very popular. Nothing to do with Kai. Now that others have brought out beef protein, sales have not increased like in the past.
Kai is a very individualistic person and tying him down to deadlines, schedules and appointments is probably a bit
uncomfortable for him.
There comes a time when a company and a contracted individual cannot agreed on a new contract. Kai wanted more money, less traveling, less appearances. They couldn't agree. Simple business agreement ends.
Your 480,000 a year is perhaps what he wanted to get, but not what he received.
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Hey Guys,
MuscleMeds is owned by MHP which is a highly profitable company.
Yes, I know my Training Partner Craig Richardson is one of their spokespersons, so you think I am going to promote their products.
WRONG!!!!
I've never taken their products so I have no right to comment on them particularly.
As far as Kai leaving, I did report that to you guys on August 6th before the news broke.
Why Kai would want to leave is up for speculation but he was no big fan of traveling, had serious issues in South America in terms of
people even wanting him back and NEVER shows up on time even when he forces the company to pick him up and drive him to and from.
Those are not characteristics of someone who enjoys being a "company man."
My understanding is that Kai had a tough upbringing, financially speaking, so perhaps the fact that he has been earning very decent money
for several years now has both satiated him and infused him with the strength and confidence to negotiate what he feels, are more pleasurable
terms for himself.
Harley
And people say phil is a douche bag. Haha at least Phil chats with his fans and actually enjoys meeting them and showing up as opposed to Kai who sounds like a fraud, playing the nice guy, tough upbringing blah blah blah hahaha
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vince go away we have Harley now
let's see how tough you are when an old Jaguard pulls up outside your house and Goodrum scrapes your garden stones with a baseball bat while having a mischievous expression on his face.
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If the shit OP says is true, why in the fuck does Kai insist on living in the ghetto of Brooklyn?
::) ::) ::)
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If the shit OP says is true, why in the fuck does Kai insist on living in the ghetto of Brooklyn?
::) ::) ::)
I think he got himself a nice place a whlie ago.
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Not sure about the exact nature of Kai's contract, but there are some companys that offer contracts that stipulate a small monthly fee (about $2000) plus a % of commission of any increase in profits they experience AFTER that athlete is brought on board and their name and likeness is used. That way they are only paying the athlete for whatever extra they are bringing in. (hypothetically speaking that is)
For instance they could offer 5% of whatever increase in business the company gets due to the name recognition and popularity of the athlete. So if they were making 3 million a year in profit and they signed Epic Famous Dude and their profit increased to 5 million a year, then Epic Famous Dude would get 5% of the 2 million they increased by. Not the overall 5 million since they were doing that before they brought him on.
Again, not sure if this is how Kais is, was, or will be but just using it to show how a popular name being attached to a new product on the market (beef protein) could easily make 480K a year.
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The reason for Kai leaving MuscleMeds was because he wanted to raise in compensation. According to documents I've obtained from a private super duper secret source, Kai was making 40k a month.
What do you Edo.....err Heb.......err Getbiggers thinks
will CaliberFitness offer Kai 80k per month in endorsements?
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Gregg Valentino and myself spoke about this on our podcast Monday night and GV had a source that told him Kai demanded a million a year or he would bolt. That explains why they erased any memory of him off their site.
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If the shit OP says is true, why in the fuck does Kai insist on living in the ghetto of Brooklyn?
::) ::) ::)
And why does he insist on doing towel shows.
Oh yeah... He's gay.
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And why does he insist on doing towel shows.
Oh yeah... He's gay.
So there are lots of gay orgies in the Brooklyn projects?
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So there are lots of gay orgies in the Brooklyn projects?
New york has a big money gay population.
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Im calling BS
There is no way he makes 40k per month-
Why the fuck would he live in that APT complex??? Because he's a prudent saver and has it all socked away in his SEP IRA?
Cmon man, use your brain for Christ's sake-
Hes as broke as all these other guys-
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Im calling BS
There is no way he makes 40k per month-
Why the fuck would he live in that APT complex??? Because he's a prudent saver and has it all socked away in his SEP IRA?
Cmon man, use your brain for Christ's sake-
Hes as broke as all these other guys-
You are a moron. You really think $40,000 / month is unbelievable?? If the company believed that Kai's endorsement aided sales then its a BARGAIN... Its only $480,000 for crissakes
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You are a moron. You really think $40,000 / month is unbelievable?? If the company believed that Kai's endorsement aided sales then its a BARGAIN... Its only $480,000 for crissakes
Have to agree with this.
Lots of people are oblivious to how marcom $$ are spent.
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He's been the number two bodybuilder on the planet for the last 4 years. LOL @ any of you thinking he's broke or anything close to it.
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He's been the number two bodybuilder on the planet for the last 4 years. LOL @ any of you thinking he's broke or anything close to it.
That's like saying hes been the number two badminton player on the planet the last 4 years-no one outside of the BB world knows who he is, or gives a fuck.
There is no way he makes 40k per month.
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Im calling BS
There is no way he makes 40k per month-
Why the fuck would he live in that APT complex??? Because he's a prudent saver and has it all socked away in his SEP IRA?
Cmon man, use your brain for Christ's sake-
Hes as broke as all these other guys-
He has a very large home outside of New York. He maintained that place for filming and documentary purposes to add a hardcore image to his lifestyle.
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That's like saying hes been the number two badminton player on the planet the last 4 years-no one outside of the BB world knows who he is, or gives a fuck.
There is no way he makes 40k per month.
The number two ranked badminton player in the world is Lin Dan of China and earned $26 Million last year.
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Im calling BS
There is no way he makes 40k per month-
Why the fuck would he live in that APT complex??? Because he's a prudent saver and has it all socked away in his SEP IRA?
Cmon man, use your brain for Christ's sake-
Hes as broke as all these other guys-
Kai Posted a video like 3 years ago about that, he moved out of there long ago, he only keeps that apartment because its rent controlled an he pays almost nothing for it , he now only uses it as storing his art and paintings and to shoot "hardcore" struggling bodybuilding videos
He also doesn't take the bus and walk everywhere like in the videos, he drive a luxury car and lives in a big house that he has yet to show pics of
(http://www.yoummisr.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Photos-Kai-Greene-USA-Bodybuilding-Training-Motivation-wallpaper-Twitter-Youm-Misr-See-you-don%E2%80%99t-see-before-54.jpg)
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480k a year... that's a lot of grapefruit
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He has a very large home outside of New York. He maintained that place for filming and documentary purposes to add a hardcore image to his lifestyle.
Sorry mate-
You are delusional-
Broke, black, drug addict homo-nobody would pay him 40k a month-
Put on your big boy shoes and think about it for a minute-
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Sorry mate-
You are delusional-
Broke, black, drug addict homo-nobody would pay him 40k a month-
Put on your big boy shoes and think about it for a minute-
That's what they paid them. Just because he talks about being homeless and shows a ratty ass apartment means nothing. Its a big lie for marketing purposes.
Singing about being homeless does not make it so
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If he was making $40K a month, which is a significant amount of money, you would think he would have no problem securing health insurance for him and his girlfriend, Ms. Drew. You would also think he would be financially sophisticated enough to understand the details of a life insurance policy. However, in a sworn affidavit submitted as part of his lawsuit with Pinnacle he stated the need to obtain health insurance for him and his girlfriend as a pressing matter. He also stated an inability to understand a life insurance contract. BTW, he's represented in that case by a young solo practitioner, not the kind of representation usually associated with a high powered athlete or entertainer.
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The number two ranked badminton player in the world is Lin Dan of China and earned $26 Million last year.
Haha owned ;D
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If he was making $40K a month, which is a significant amount of money, you would think he would have no problem securing health insurance for him and his girlfriend, Ms. Drew. You would also think he would be financially sophisticated enough to understand the details of a life insurance policy. However, in a sworn affidavit submitted as part of his lawsuit with Pinnacle he stated the need to obtain health insurance for him and his girlfriend as a pressing matter. He also stated an inability to understand a life insurance contract. BTW, he's represented in that case by a young solo practitioner, not the kind of representation usually associated with a high powered athlete or entertainer.
That par was pretty much full of shit. Bodybuilder's creed: rich and wealthy to friends and broke and homeless to the US Government.
I would not have paid Kai that kind of money but MuscleMeds did. However Evan Centapani got 100k with Blackstone/Prime and he's a tier 2 bodybuilder at best.
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The number two ranked badminton player in the world is Lin Dan of China and earned $26 Million last year.
Yeah well, let's see him do a front double biceps?