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I mean 8T to 20T debt in 7 years, 20% inflation, 20% unemployment, suppress tea party with irs, unionized fedex destroying the only hope for cheap delivery of goods, iran, didn't end iraq of afghanistan wars but claims he did, added untold regulations, pumped up banking craziness, another real estate bubble forming and fed outa control getting more power controlling more crony commy corps.....this is how it must have been in Germany b4 Hitler...
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No...
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I mean 8T to 20T debt in 7 years, 20% inflation, 20% unemployment, suppress tea party with irs, unionized fedex destroying the only hope for cheap delivery of goods, iran, didn't end iraq of afghanistan wars but claims he did, added untold regulations, pumped up banking craziness, another real estate bubble forming and fed outa control getting more power controlling more crony commy corps.....this is how it must have been in Germany b4 Hitler...
So you think Bush was better? Really?
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I mean 8T to 20T debt in 7 years, 20% inflation, 20% unemployment, suppress tea party with irs, unionized fedex destroying the only hope for cheap delivery of goods, iran, didn't end iraq of afghanistan wars but claims he did, added untold regulations, pumped up banking craziness, another real estate bubble forming and fed outa control getting more power controlling more crony commy corps.....this is how it must have been in Germany b4 Hitler...
You are correct: we need to bring back the peace, prosperity, and competence of the bush/cheney years. ::)
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Another gimmick attempting to alter reality.
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I think FDR was worse. But definitely the most "overrated."
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There have been a lot of worse Presidents than Obama.
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I never knew you were president
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He's the worst of my lifetime. Bush wasn't so hot either, mainly because of the whole Iraq thing. But I believe Obama and his cronies have been very bad and will be far worse for the country as a whole overall. But I'm a well-to-do middle aged white guy who works in finance and has a vested interest in fossil fuels, so perhaps I'm somewhat biased - Dodd-Frank, increased taxes and other regs via ACA, EPA regs, "social justice", "social engineering", bad foreign policy IMO, etc, etc.
The recession would have happened no matter what, and much of the heavy lifting done by Paulson and Bernanke was already done by late '08. The collapse of the oil, real estate, and financial markets pretty much all at once was quite a wallop. It wasn't all Bush's fault by a long shot, and it was not "fixed" by Obama. ::)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/communitydev/cra_about.htm (http://www.federalreserve.gov/communitydev/cra_about.htm)
http://spectator.org/articles/42211/true-origins-financial-crisis (http://spectator.org/articles/42211/true-origins-financial-crisis)
http://www.globalurban.org/National_Homeownership_Strategy.pdf (http://www.globalurban.org/National_Homeownership_Strategy.pdf)
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/07/baselcapitalaccord.asp (http://www.investopedia.com/articles/07/baselcapitalaccord.asp)
Presidents aside, we are actually in a major DEFLATIONARY cycle that is very worrisome in and of itself. I'll assume that he's NOT overstepping his bounds by influencing the Fed to hold down rates or anything. But the fact that we've seen no inflation and such tepid growth is very concerning.
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he will go down as one of the worst 3-5 presidents ever probably.
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Somewhere in the top 3....
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So you think Bush was better? Really?
sure
bush inherited clintons forcing fannie n freddy to loan to poor, with taxpayer on the bad end
clinton was worst than bush
clinton had a new free market begin during his time and still caused 2008
bush was ok, not great, and perscription drug handout was his worst thing
obama unionized fedex, did obamacare, won 2012 with irs scandal illegally, is not a us citizen, and took debt from 8t to 19t and counting all rest of president combined were 8t
also letting fed get more powerful, taxes n union pensions titanic more than ever b4
iran? immigration? dood frank
list of nukes to usa economy goes on
make no mistake, our economy is hanging by thread
low gov spending is the cure
last point: cops killing people no consequences!
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I mean 8T to 20T debt in 7 years, 20% inflation, 20% unemployment, suppress tea party with irs, unionized fedex destroying the only hope for cheap delivery of goods, iran, didn't end iraq of afghanistan wars but claims he did, added untold regulations, pumped up banking craziness, another real estate bubble forming and fed outa control getting more power controlling more crony commy corps.....this is how it must have been in Germany b4 Hitler...
The national debt was $10.6 trillion the day Obama took office, not $8 trillion, and it is currently $18.4 trillion, not $20 trillion. Also, the huge deficit in 2009 was inherited from the previous administration. If you are looking at debt in terms of raw numbers, obviously recent presidents are going to look worse. But if you look at how much a president increases the debt on a percentage basis, Reagan takes the cake.
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sure
bush inherited clintons forcing fannie n freddy to loan to poor, with taxpayer on the bad end
clinton was worst than bush
clinton had a new free market begin during his time and still caused 2008
bush was ok, not great, and perscription drug handout was his worst thing
obama unionized fedex, did obamacare, won 2012 with irs scandal illegally, is not a us citizen, and took debt from 8t to 19t and counting all rest of president combined were 8t
also letting fed get more powerful, taxes n union pensions titanic more than ever b4
iran? immigration? dood frank
list of nukes to usa economy goes on
make no mistake, our economy is hanging by thread
low gov spending is the cure
last point: cops killing people no consequences!
Are you challenging Coach?