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Title: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 03, 2006, 07:18:13 AM
I am paranoid.  I do not trust "sources."  I read the latest MD where 2000 people who use Mexican gear are getting busted.  Too many risks these days.  As for 'legal' options, the only one closest is fina (i know its borderline).  Not sure if fina by itself for 12 weeks is a great option, but I think it will put on around 10 pounds.  Also, has anyone ever gotton busted for fina??? 
Is there any other 'legal' options that I am not aware of? 
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: MarkyM on March 03, 2006, 08:06:52 AM
You need more time bro. Stick arround the boards meet peoples and after some time you will find out what are you looking for. And it is not a big deal order stuff over the net if you know what are you doing and of course source must know how to deal with all this.
And I would not run cycle without Test bro.  8)
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Rimbaud on March 03, 2006, 08:25:11 AM
If you're too afraid to order over the net then like everyone else here says: you need to make friends with people at the gym (the one's who you know are using, just be descrete about it).
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 03, 2006, 08:32:39 AM
Yeah, I agree, but if you had a high paying job, and getting a felony charge would make you lose your job, then trusting some 'source' who does not give a crap about you is a big gamble. 
Is it that bad to run a tren only cycle?  Back in the day people just used d-bol.  If someone only wants a solid 10 pounds, I think 12 weeks of tren 100mg EOD is just fine.  Thoughts? 
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: SPRINKFSU on March 03, 2006, 08:56:43 AM
if your not willing to take the risk when getting them, then your not going to take the risk when useing them.so dont bother waisting  your money. :-\
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 03, 2006, 09:21:24 AM
Using them I have no problem with.  Getting busted for buying them I do. There is a huge difference between the two.  I want to minimize the risk as much as I can.  I want the best risk/benefit ratio, and I think as of right now, its the tren only route is better than nothing at all. 
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: muscle19 on March 03, 2006, 10:27:10 AM
IMO, the likely hood of u getting a felony for just using, is low, again thats my opinion. now if ur selling and holding mass quantites then maybe ull get a felony but dont sweat it, keep it on the DL and have fun!


muscle
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 03, 2006, 12:23:20 PM
I am paranoid.  I do not trust "sources."  I read the latest MD where 2000 people who use Mexican gear are getting busted.  Too many risks these days.  As for 'legal' options, the only one closest is fina (i know its borderline).  Not sure if fina by itself for 12 weeks is a great option, but I think it will put on around 10 pounds.  Also, has anyone ever gotton busted for fina??? 
Is there any other 'legal' options that I am not aware of? 

Why are you in this game if you aren't willing to take the risk?

What do you want?

Life is a risk.

Don't you understand that yet?

Either play the game or go back to bed.....



DIV
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Double XL on March 03, 2006, 01:17:45 PM
phera plex is supposedly really good. . . .shit like tren and legal orals are so unhealthy though.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 03, 2006, 01:19:39 PM
Ok, thanks for the advice.  But isn't the tren only cycle relatively safe (legally speaking), cheap, and put on a good solid 10 pounds?  I think so.  I played th game with sources in the past, and I think I never got any legit stuff anyway...
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Double XL on March 03, 2006, 01:20:49 PM
Ok, thanks for the advice.  But isn't the tren only cycle relatively safe (legally speaking), cheap, and put on a good solid 10 pounds?  I think so.  I played th game with sources in the past, and I think I never got any legit stuff anyway...
you'll get tren dick.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 03, 2006, 01:23:54 PM
Ok, thanks for the advice.  But isn't the tren only cycle relatively safe (legally speaking), cheap, and put on a good solid 10 pounds?  I think so.  I played th game with sources in the past, and I think I never got any legit stuff anyway...

What led you to believe that Tren is the only safe cycle?

Any cycle has its risks, Worm.

You want a solid 10lbs?  Eat better, sleep better, lift heavier weights.  It sounds to me like you are iffy on using AAS in the first place, so why even deal with it?

You can't go halfway in this......




DIV
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: sarcasm on March 03, 2006, 01:31:34 PM
you know it's funny every dude i've ever known who got pulled over with gear in the car either had it confiscated and then got let go or the cop just disregarded it altogether.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: MarkyM on March 03, 2006, 02:06:28 PM
Tren only cycle is not a good way IMO.
It can get you tren dick and it very HPTA suppessive.

If you will decide to run it than try to get some Test beside.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 03, 2006, 02:37:28 PM
you know it's funny every dude i've ever known who got pulled over with gear in the car either had it confiscated and then got let go or the cop just disregarded it altogether.

I wouldn't want to risk it anyway......

Must be some liberal cops.



DIV
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: sarcasm on March 03, 2006, 04:20:32 PM
I wouldn't want to risk it anyway......
Must be some liberal cops.
DIV
every gym i've ever trained in had a bunch of cops training there and i'd say at least 75 percent of them juiced.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 03, 2006, 04:50:28 PM
Is tren only really that bad?  I think its a cheap and legal option.  Better than creatine powder.  Plus little to no gyno, solid and keepable gains.  Anyone ever try this before?
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: JamieX4200 on March 03, 2006, 05:00:53 PM
Why the hell not run tren for longer than 12 weeks?  Just keep up your BCAAS and liver supps, and get blood tests done-- daily vitamins' and eat healthy, run that shit for a full 3 months... you should be fine if you take the proper precautions.
jamie
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 03, 2006, 05:36:35 PM
every gym i've ever trained in had a bunch of cops training there and i'd say at least 75 percent of them juiced.

Of course they do, Mirzy, but how many admit to it in public to you or me?

I don't care who uses, personally, but I don't trust cops because of the fact they can pick and choose who they bust and why.  That in itself is a reason not to associate with them if you are in this game.

They can't be trusted.  I'm sure alot of cops have their hands in confiscated steroid bust stashes that are supposed to be lockerroom evidence, but they don't admit to that either, Mirzy.

That's how they get away with what they do.




DIV
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: JamieX4200 on March 03, 2006, 06:18:44 PM
What led you to believe that Tren is the only safe cycle?
Any cycle has its risks, Worm.
You want a solid 10lbs?  Eat better, sleep better, lift heavier weights.  It sounds to me like you are iffy on using AAS in the first place, so why even deal with it?
You can't go halfway in this......
DIV

Are you a trainer or a gear expert?
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: sarcasm on March 03, 2006, 07:06:46 PM
Of course they do, Mirzy, but how many admit to it in public to you or me?
I don't care who uses, personally, but I don't trust cops because of the fact they can pick and choose who they bust and why.  That in itself is a reason not to associate with them if you are in this game.
They can't be trusted.  I'm sure alot of cops have their hands in confiscated steroid bust stashes that are supposed to be lockerroom evidence, but they don't admit to that either, Mirzy.
That's how they get away with what they do.
DIV
don't get me wrong i totally agree with you i think cops are the most worthless sacks of shit around but a lot of them do juice.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 03, 2006, 10:55:57 PM
don't get me wrong i totally agree with you i think cops are the most worthless sacks of shit around but a lot of them do juice.

^Concur.




DIV
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: !@#$% on March 09, 2006, 05:31:59 AM
Is tren only really that bad?  I think its a cheap and legal option.  Better than creatine powder.  Plus little to no gyno, solid and keepable gains.  Anyone ever try this before?

Tren is legal? From what company? What's its legal name?

!@#$%
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Rimbaud on March 09, 2006, 05:57:54 AM
Tren is legal? From what company? What's its legal name?

!@#$%

It's not quite legal but you can legally get fina (it's for cattle) & convert it to tren (once it's converted it's illegal).
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 09, 2006, 02:20:57 PM
It's not quite legal but you can legally get fina (it's for cattle) & convert it to tren (once it's converted it's illegal).

^Concur.




DIV
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: !@#$% on March 09, 2006, 04:03:40 PM
It's not quite legal but you can legally get fina (it's for cattle) & convert it to tren (once it's converted it's illegal).

Can anyone walk into a vet and buy fina or do you need some kind of license?
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 09, 2006, 05:19:10 PM
Can anyone walk into a vet and buy fina or do you need some kind of license?

You walk in to a Vet Pharmacy and buy Finaplix pellets.....

It's easier to order online though.....less hassle.



DIV
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: !@#$% on March 09, 2006, 05:31:07 PM
You walk in to a Vet Pharmacy and buy Finaplix pellets.....

It's easier to order online though.....less hassle.



DIV

Is this also true for equipoise or other vetenary AAS?
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 09, 2006, 05:33:52 PM
Is this also true for equipoise or other vetenary AAS?

Not here in America.

Finaplix are implants, so they are not restricted like EQ, Winstrol etc.

Those drugs are via prescription through a licensed vet.

You can't just walk in and buy a vial of EQ or a bottle of Winstrol tabs.

The Finaplix pellets are a loophole......





DIV
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: cincyfan on March 11, 2006, 11:37:02 AM
I am paranoid.  I do not trust "sources."  I read the latest MD where 2000 people who use Mexican gear are getting busted.  Too many risks these days.  As for 'legal' options, the only one closest is fina (i know its borderline).  Not sure if fina by itself for 12 weeks is a great option, but I think it will put on around 10 pounds.  Also, has anyone ever gotton busted for fina??? 
Is there any other 'legal' options that I am not aware of? 
If you want to go the homebrew route, go with fina[tren]/synovex[prop]. Synovex will get you 20grams of test prop for about 80 bucks[plus the price of the kit].
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 11, 2006, 12:12:57 PM
tell me more about this synovex?  80 worth of the powder gives you 10ml of 200mg/ml??  Is the stuff 'legal' like fina to buy?
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Double XL on March 11, 2006, 12:25:57 PM
tell me more about this synovex?  80 worth of the powder gives you 10ml of 200mg/ml??  Is the stuff 'legal' like fina to buy?
20 grams would give you 10 - 10mlvials at 200mg/ml. . .and no powders are not legal.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: cincyfan on March 11, 2006, 04:37:34 PM
tell me more about this synovex?  80 worth of the powder gives you 10ml of 200mg/ml??  Is the stuff 'legal' like fina to buy?
synovex and finaplix are both cattle implants, which are completely legal to buy. What you do with them after that is another story.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: WorldGym2006 on March 12, 2006, 12:38:59 AM
20 grams would give you 10 - 10mlvials at 200mg/ml. . .and no powders are not legal.

hahaha......Listening to this BULLSHIT is like taking lessons on how to pick up chicks from Michael Jackson.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Double XL on March 12, 2006, 01:20:07 AM
hahaha......Listening to this BULLSHIT is like taking lessons on how to pick up chicks from Michael Jackson.
i agree.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: gtbro1 on March 12, 2006, 03:38:44 AM
  Tren alone is a very bad idea.Even though it does not convert to estrogen you can still get gyno...but not as easily as with other drugs.It has something to do with progesterone.You can also experience hair loss.If you are gona run tren then you need to run test as well.Tren is something like 3 times as anabolic as testosterone...but it does not aromatise to estrogen,so the gains are very solid.It is a very good drug to get you cut...and your Strength will go through the roof,unfortunately your dick might go toward the ground without test...and you will definately need clomid for post cycle therapy to kick start your natural test again,because tren can shut your testosterone production down very quickly,and when you come off you will have the test levels of a little girl..lol.If you do decide to go with it drink plenty of h20 because it is said to be rough on the kidneys,but in my opinion any drug in excess will be hard on the kidneys.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Slick Vic on March 12, 2006, 06:03:02 AM
Okay. I felt I had to throw my two cents in. Finaplix (trenbolone ace.) and Synovex (testosterone prop.) are both legal to purchase/possess ONLY - and I do stress ONLY - in pellet form. They're regulated by the FDA and NOT the DEA. This is because with them being in the form of pellets they are not suitable for human consumption. Enter the kits. Once you convert these pellets for human injection you have now entered a whole new ball game - illegal!  :o
If you're really concerned AAS and the law I HIGHLY recommend Legal Muscle by Rick Collins. It's a well invested book.  ;)
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 12, 2006, 04:19:43 PM
Can you outline a few of the major points from the book?  ok, maybe one major usefull point?
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: HickoryStick on March 12, 2006, 05:03:05 PM
Sounds like someone doesn't want to put in their own time and research... ::)
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Slick Vic on March 12, 2006, 05:24:20 PM
Can you outline a few of the major points from the book?  ok, maybe one major usefull point?
Bro, it's a GREAT book! There are ALOT of major points I'm not about to type from the book. As for info on Fina and Syno. Do your research as I had.... the internet is VERY useful in your search. It took me a while to do my research but it was time well invested.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 12, 2006, 06:00:44 PM
Are you rick collins?  haha.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on March 12, 2006, 08:25:34 PM
don't get me wrong i totally agree with you i think cops are the most worthless sacks of shit around but a lot of them do juice.

you say that and then as soon as you are getting robbed or someone jacks you up the first thing you do is call us...... why do you have this silly mentality? we are here for you.... what makes us worthless?? And yes, a shit ton of cops do gear and no.. just about none that I know would ever even care two shits about personal gear in a vehicle..... give me a break jackass... who do you trust if you dont trust us?..... do you trust the gangsters?
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 12, 2006, 08:47:36 PM
I trust you guys, much respect...just don;t give me a ticket.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: micky55024 on March 12, 2006, 09:29:39 PM
Can you outline a few of the major points from the book?  ok, maybe one major usefull point?

Dude, buy the book like Vic suggested.  It is worth every penny! 
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: theworm on March 13, 2006, 06:40:20 AM
Yeah, I just don't see how it affects the bottom line: gear is illegal, and possession is a felony.  Not sure how a book will change this.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on March 13, 2006, 12:58:25 PM
possession for personal use is a misdemeanor and i never seen a court that didnt throw out a misdemeanor possession charge by letting the defendant take some gay class and then throw it out.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: Slick Vic on March 13, 2006, 02:15:34 PM
Yeah, I just don't see how it affects the bottom line: gear is illegal, and possession is a felony.  Not sure how a book will change this.
Considering you're asking for info and this book is full of it. I would think why not.
Title: Re: Legal AS???
Post by: DIVISION on March 13, 2006, 10:26:51 PM
  Tren alone is a very bad idea.Even though it does not convert to estrogen you can still get gyno...but not as easily as with other drugs.It has something to do with progesterone.

Using any AAS alone.....except Testosterone is probaby a bad idea.

Tren can cause gyno due to prolactin......

Dostinex combats this.





DIV