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Title: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Al Doggity on September 02, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
I used to, but I've been convinced that there's really no point. The evidence of the dangers of salt is specious and inconclusive. There is much more proof that sugar is harmful, but the powerful sugar lobby has actually helped to obfuscate such evidence and demonize salt.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
I am pretty sure that the medical establishment has rescinded their fatwa against salt basically admitting that the "science" around the "studies" that caused them to link sodium with high BP were spectacularly flawed.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Uncle Joon on September 02, 2015, 01:20:26 PM
I used to, but I've been convinced that there's really no point. The evidence of the dangers of salt is specious and inconclusive. There is much more proof that sugar is harmful, but the powerful sugar lobby has actually helped to obfuscate such evidence and demonize salt.

Its a good idea to limit sodium when on gear purely from water retention and blood pressure point of view but not much real point if natty so long as you are not taking spoonfull of the stuff.
You are completely right in your assesment that sugar is more harmful than anything else.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: calfzilla on September 02, 2015, 01:20:52 PM
No. If I had high bp and my doc told me to then yes I would limit it.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Al Doggity on September 02, 2015, 01:26:16 PM
I am pretty sure that the medical establishment has rescinded their fatwa against salt basically admitting that the "science" around the "studies" that caused them to link sodium with high BP were spectacularly flawed.


The medical establishment isn't that monolithic. There have been a few well-publicized studies that have gone counter to what was considered conventional wisdom about salt, but there still seems to be a lot of controversy. I just checked the American Heart Association website and they still recommend limited salt intake.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Al Doggity on September 02, 2015, 01:51:38 PM
When I was in college, remember reading a story about a young man who had died because he consumed nothing but packaged ramen for years on end. This had a huge impact on how I thought about sodium consumption. This was printed in a reputable news source. Once I realized it was probably just an urban legend, I started to change my thinking on sodium.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: ritch on September 02, 2015, 02:05:54 PM
Yes and no....
I don't add sauces to meat other than ketchup as they really have lots of sodium. Any frozen food (meat wise) will be loaded with sodium. At one point I was not watching my intake and a quick blood pressure reading had me make a few changes for the better.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Marty Champions on September 02, 2015, 04:43:31 PM
The ocean has too much salt
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: WalterWhite on September 02, 2015, 04:53:28 PM

Its a good idea to limit sodium when on gear purely from water retention and blood pressure point of view but not much real point if natty so long as you are not taking spoonfull of the stuff.
You are completely right in your assesment that sugar is more harmful than anything else.

I also feel better with less salt. When I was in Texas I ate at a PF Changs and felt like crap after.  Maybe is was the Mai Tai because I almost never drink.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: robcguns on September 02, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
I can tell when i eat salt that my bp goes up,so yes i limit my salt intake.
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Post by: jugheadjones on September 02, 2015, 05:34:56 PM
Salt makes my stomach hurt. I tried that Pink Himalayan salt but same issue.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 02, 2015, 06:26:06 PM
Having more salt in your body will help the kidneys to hold on to more water. Also the more salt you take in, the thirstier you will get. When you feel thirsty, drink water. Bars know what salt does to the body and that's why they'll have extra salty pretzels or peanuts on the counter. Eat the salty pretzels and you will order more drinks...
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Al Doggity on September 02, 2015, 08:56:48 PM
Yes and no....
I don't add sauces to meat other than ketchup as they really have lots of sodium. Any frozen food (meat wise) will be loaded with sodium. At one point I was not watching my intake and a quick blood pressure reading had me make a few changes for the better.

Interdasting. Were you working out regularly at the time? Appearance-wise, did you look healthy? Were you noticeably "fit"?  Was the reading, like, alarming or was it just higher than you would have liked?

Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: blinky on September 02, 2015, 09:02:53 PM
tough balancing act. My mom was just hospitalized for low sodium
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: ritch on September 02, 2015, 09:05:34 PM
Interdasting. Were you working out regularly at the time? Appearance-wise, did you look healthy? Were you noticeably "fit"?  Was the reading, like, alarming or was it just higher than you would have liked?



Been training since the age of 11-12, so I will have to answer "yes" if I was "working out"

What do you mean by "fit" and what's with all these super gay terms???

I think the highest reading I got was 160/??? but was often in the 150ish range/never remember the second number, lol...

Post workout cardio fixed it quick and stopped eating the frozen burger patties. Those are very high in sodium. Then, I'd put kraft bbq sauce and ketchup, shit man... Not good!
 
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: TheShape. on September 02, 2015, 09:17:18 PM
Nothing wrong with moderate salt consumption, athletes usually need a bit more than others anyways. I prefer my natural raw salt though over that white crap.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Al Doggity on September 02, 2015, 09:17:34 PM

What do you mean by "fit" and what's with all these super gay terms???



"Fit" is a super gay term? And I used other super gay terms???

When I said "fit" I meant obvious that you worked out just by looking at you. I think physical appearance is a good indicator of overall health. There are exceptions of course. A guy using sterons might look great but have shitty insides. A woman might have an eating disorder and fuck up her organs, but if your workouts aren't enhanced and your weight doesn't fluctuate wildly, it's surprising to me that your food intake would affect your bp so much.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: ritch on September 02, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
"Fit" is a super gay term? And I used other super gay terms???

When I said "fit" I meant obvious that you worked out just by looking at you. I think physical appearance is a good indicator of overall health. There are exceptions of course. A guy using sterons might look great but have shitty insides. A woman might have an eating disorder and fuck up her organs, but if your workouts aren't enhanced and your weight doesn't fluctuate wildly, it's surprising to me that your food intake would affect your bp so much.

I was up to 230-238 when eating like that, but not lean, didn't look fat, just by bb'ing standards. Face never gets chubby so I could hold a shit tonne of fat and not appear "unfit" lol..
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: cephissus on September 02, 2015, 09:35:30 PM
No.

I'm always told it can be bad for your blood pressure.  Well, I always had hypertension (130-150 / 90, hereditary) until I lost weight.  Now I eat more salt than ever and my blood pressure is consistently about 95/70.  I load all of my meat and veggies with salt.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Al Doggity on September 02, 2015, 09:47:07 PM
No.

I'm always told it can be bad for your blood pressure.  Well, I always had hypertension (130-150 / 90, hereditary) until I lost weight.  Now I eat more salt than ever and my blood pressure is consistently about 95/70.  I load all of my meat and veggies with salt.

This is what I'm getting at. I think appearance is probably a pretty accurate way to gauge your health. It's pretty unlikely to have abs, clear skin, nice teeth and hypertension.

My wife brines chicken before she bakes it. Brining is basically marinating a piece of meat in a salt bath. At one point, I  avoided brined meats because I thought they were taking years off my life. I regret all of the delicious meals I missed out on.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: mr.turbo on September 02, 2015, 09:48:54 PM
bacon is a highly anabolic food and great salt source
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Papper on September 03, 2015, 06:33:18 AM
Yes. Down to a minimum except for occasions.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Al Doggity on September 03, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
bacon is a highly anabolic food and great salt source

I have lox with as many things as possible.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: benchmstr on September 03, 2015, 11:56:45 AM
only when im single digits and looking to go further

bench
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 09, 2015, 10:49:28 PM
Salt makes my stomach hurt. I tried that Pink Himalayan salt but same issue.



Eat more salt!  ;D
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: 38-26-40 on September 09, 2015, 10:56:40 PM
I hate salt.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: heenok on September 10, 2015, 01:16:01 AM
I like salt while dieting, keeps you full and veiny.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: jon cole on September 10, 2015, 03:59:03 AM
Anybody noticed a difference of bp between traditionnal method and electronic machine ?

My bp is generally normal with traditionnal method, but with the machine, it's weird. The brace seems to little for my arm, my arm are something like 46/48cm, when it "pump" i can hear the velcro almost tearing apart, the nurse was watching the brace with worry, then the machine pump so much it become painful in my arm and i can feel the blood flowing in my brain, but the machine didn't find the bp, so it repump again. The doctor took my bp two time with the machine, and the machine had to "repump" twice to find my bp.

I checked on internet and obvisously normal brace are not for ppl with big arm, any info ?
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: CalvinH on September 10, 2015, 05:37:14 AM
I like salt on french fries and home fries. I don't put it on anything else.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Zillotch on September 10, 2015, 06:03:39 AM
I consume grams of salt daily. 
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: OB1 on September 10, 2015, 06:30:34 AM
salt is essential and healthy.
like (vegetable) fat.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 10, 2015, 01:06:09 PM
Anybody noticed a difference of bp between traditionnal method and electronic machine ?

My bp is generally normal with traditionnal method, but with the machine, it's weird. The brace seems to little for my arm, my arm are something like 46/48cm, when it "pump" i can hear the velcro almost tearing apart, the nurse was watching the brace with worry, then the machine pump so much it become painful in my arm and i can feel the blood flowing in my brain, but the machine didn't find the bp, so it repump again. The doctor took my bp two time with the machine, and the machine had to "repump" twice to find my bp.

I checked on internet and obvisously normal brace are not for ppl with big arm, any info ?

Blood pressure cuffs (what you're calling a brace) come in various sizes. 19" arms shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Papper on September 10, 2015, 01:51:42 PM
salt is essential and healthy.
like (vegetable) fat.


Yes but being moderate with your intake is even more healthy.

Salt already exists naturally in meat, nuts et cetera and the amount is great. No needs to pour extra salt over your food.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: HTexan on September 10, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
Nope, just sugar and starches .
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 10, 2015, 11:05:50 PM
Yes but being moderate with your intake is even more healthy.

Salt already exists naturally in meat, nuts et cetera and the amount is great. No needs to pour extra salt over your food.

You are right of course, but damn salt makes everything taste so good. It is probably like other addictions, we find reasons to justify it.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Papper on September 11, 2015, 07:18:50 AM
You are right of course, but damn salt makes everything taste so good. It is probably like other addictions, we find reasons to justify it.

Totally brou. Addictive as f.

I promise that if you quit salt cold turkey the buds adjust in 2-3 days and you taste the natural saltiness in all meat.

Then you eat something salted and you kind of get disgusted.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Disco187 on September 11, 2015, 07:32:54 AM
Have a gatorade and oddles of noodles and you will be five pounds of bloat the next morning mostly in the face....  Salt blloooooats me
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: viking1 on September 11, 2015, 11:08:24 AM
I eat very clean and sprinkle quality sea and lava salt on my food. Our bodies needs salt(obviously), but you have to figure out what works for you(just like water/fluid consumption).  If you're pounding liters of fluid throughout the day, that can push you into the other extreme.
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Post by: Princess L on September 11, 2015, 04:50:47 PM
I cook practically everything from scratch and salt in layers as I'm cooking (Kosher, cuz it's pinchable) ~ a pinch in the onions while sauteing, a pinch on the roasted vegetables, a pinch in the morning eggs, meat, gets salted before throwing on the grill, salt goes into baked goods and other sweets ~ it brings out the flavors.  Pasta - make the water like the ocean.  Table salt ~ never.  Maybe a finishing salt if the recipe suggests.  Commercial food  :-X - way too salty
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 11, 2015, 06:17:53 PM
Do you think it is necessary to have some iodized salt in your diet to help prevent goiters? Most "designer" salts are not iodized.
Title: Re: Do you limit your salt intake?
Post by: Lustral on September 11, 2015, 06:22:11 PM
It's genetic whether it affects bp. Not for me so my food would poison sea fish.