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Title: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: pellius on September 06, 2015, 12:25:24 AM
Well, at least if your mom is a swine. Still better than a rat:

Maternal low-protein diet affects myostatin signaling and protein synthesis in offspring's skeletal muscle - Ok, we are talking about swine, but (a) many human beings behave much worse than swine and (b) swine are actually a much better model of human metabolism than rodents and many primates (the real reason they are not the standard model is that they are too large and too long-lived, which means they need too much space, the studies last too long and get much too expensive).

It is thus more than likely that a very similar effect on myostatin and protein synthesis as it was observed by Liu et al. in their latest study in the European Journal of Nutrition where the swine who were fed a protein-deficient diet with only 6% of the energy from protein gave birth to piglets with (a) significantly reduced body weight, (b) significantly reduced muscle weight, (c) extremely reduced relative muscle weight (to body weight) and (d) small muscle with miniscule intramuscular domains.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iLmGi7vHwLI/VdqR3coTATI/AAAAAAAAkoU/-31-ICJBFWM/s1600/a.png)

Figure 1: Body weight, muscle weight (LD), myofiber cross sectional are and rel. muscle weight (LD/BW) of piglets born to sows on protein sufficient (12% | SP) and deficient (6% | LP) diets (Liu. 2015).
While you can see all of that in Figure 1, the reasons for the lack of muscularity can be seen in Figure 2 which tells you that the piglets that were born to mothers on the low protein (LP) diet had significantly increased myostatin (remember myostatin blocks protein synthesis) and accordingly reduced S6K levels.

With the former being the controller and the latter being the executor of protein synthesis, the results of Liu's study leave little room for speculation: A diet that contains only 6% protein - for humans ~20-30g (depending on your baseline intake) - may increase your offspring's risk of becoming under-muscled and skinny fat... what? No, I didn't say "beware vegans" - that was you!

 
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: Dr.J on September 06, 2015, 12:54:26 AM
Guess my mom ate alot of meat!
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 06, 2015, 06:10:48 AM
Guess my mom ate alot of meat!

Oh, I'm certain of that.
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: Method101 on September 06, 2015, 06:14:32 AM
Complete garbage/worthless study.

I'm 6ft2 and about 1 year of serious training and dieting from having a body like Eugene Sandow, my mother was 20 when I was born and had been vegetarian for 10 years and throughout pregnancy so probably eat under 30g of protein a day lol didn't do me any harm.
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: _aj_ on September 06, 2015, 07:02:34 AM
Complete garbage/worthless study.

I'm 6ft2 and about 1 year of serious training and dieting from having a body like Eugene Sandow, my mother was 20 when I was born and had been vegetarian for 10 years and throughout pregnancy so probably eat under 30g of protein a day lol didn't do me any harm.

Let's see a pic, "Eugene".

Otherwise, the mirror pic with the twig arm stands as your only pic.
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: ritch on September 06, 2015, 07:35:24 AM
Guess my mom ate alot of meat!

LOL!
Gonna "get it" with that reply...
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: chaos on September 06, 2015, 08:52:15 AM
Guess my mom ate alot of meat!
Still does I've heard.
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: SF1900 on September 06, 2015, 09:55:22 AM
Complete garbage/worthless study.

I'm 6ft2 and about 1 year of serious training and dieting from having a body like Eugene Sandow, my mother was 20 when I was born and had been vegetarian for 10 years and throughout pregnancy so probably eat under 30g of protein a day lol didn't do me any harm.

Looking swole, broskie

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=391184.0;attach=422950;image)
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: HonestBob on September 06, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Looking swole, broskie

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=391184.0;attach=422950;image)

When I was 15yrs old I wasn't much bigger, give him a break.
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: Nether Animal on September 06, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
Looking swole, broskie

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=391184.0;attach=422950;image)

Jeez I'm 6'3'' thought my arm genetics sucked... at least I have decent tris
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: HonestBob on September 06, 2015, 10:36:22 AM
Jeez I'm 6'3'' thought my arm genetics sucked... at least I have decent tris

6'3" is no excuse for small arms:

(http://i.imgur.com/vWssKRv.png)
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: Nether Animal on September 06, 2015, 10:52:57 AM
6'3" is no excuse for small arms:

(http://i.imgur.com/vWssKRv.png)

Awesome. I don't mean necessarily small, but being lanky sort of throws the look off and makes them seem smaller than they are. See: Hubert Metz syndrome.
Title: Re: Can't put on muscle -- blame your mom.
Post by: HonestBob on September 06, 2015, 11:01:46 AM
Awesome. I don't mean necessarily small, but being lanky sort of throws the look off and makes them seem smaller than they are. See: Hubert Metz syndrome.

I'm 6'3" so I share your pain, note this was an arm at side shot and not a front double biceps!  ;)

Onstage and in the age of IG being small helps for looking good in photos, but IRL forget about it.  Manlets weep as we get the better jobs, better women, and generally just dominate.