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Title: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 04:37:37 PM
 :)

Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: TuHolmes on September 09, 2015, 04:40:06 PM
What's the over under on 5?

I think 5 years easy.

Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2015, 04:40:15 PM
Here's your new champ
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 04:44:49 PM
Here's your new champ

I think you're going to see a genetic pool we've never seen before old and new.  The popularity is going to be outrageous.  What they've done is made Mr. Classic Olympia look very attainable to the average joe. Not to mention who wouldn't want to look like Frank Zane to the average person.  TuHolmes, I originally titled my thread 5 years but changed it to 10. It's going to be very soon.  And all the promoters will pull all their money out of Open pro shows and Open NPC shows to Classic when they get the entrance fees and audience.  This is great!

This guy looks like one smug son of a bitch.  But he deserves it.lol. The 5'9-5'11 divisions are going to be the most competitive in the IFBB. This is where your Mr. Classic Olympia is coming from.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: TuHolmes on September 09, 2015, 04:48:23 PM
I think you're going to see a genetic pool we've never seen before old and new.  The popularity is going to be outrageous.  What they've done is made Mr. Classic Olympia look very attainable to the average joe. Not to mention who wouldn't want to look like Frank Zane to the average person.  TuHolmes, I originally titled my thread 5 years but changed it to 10. It's going to be very soon.  And all the promoters will pull all their money out of Open pro shows and Open NPC shows to Classic when they get the entrance fees and audience.  This is great!

It is great... Shame how they couldn't just fix the judging.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Grape Ape on September 09, 2015, 04:49:39 PM
The popularity is going to be outrageous.

Popularity maybe within the context of people who are already fans.

General population won't give a shit.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: SF1900 on September 09, 2015, 04:52:14 PM
How do they determine which body belongs in the classic physique division, as opposed to the 212 or open division?
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: TuHolmes on September 09, 2015, 04:54:55 PM
How do they determine which body belongs in the classic physique division, as opposed to the 212 or open division?

They have weight / height criteria.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 04:55:19 PM
Popularity maybe within the context of people who are already fans.

General population won't give a shit.

I'd have to disagree.  This country is due for a fitness revolution. More and more people are getting into fitness and health in the U.S. and you can attach fitness and health to a classic physique not a current pro. Classic is much more marketable to the general public so they're bound to gain new fans and athletes during this revolution.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: SF1900 on September 09, 2015, 04:56:43 PM
They have weight / height criteria.


Yeah, but you can be 5'5" like Flex Lewis and not qualify as having a classic physique.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: wes on September 09, 2015, 04:58:03 PM
That guy looks freakin` great.


We need more of this and less bloated bellies.

New division is a good move unless they fuck up the judging.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 04:58:20 PM
How do they determine which body belongs in the classic physique division, as opposed to the 212 or open division?

There's nothing stopping a 5'9 guy from entering the 212 division.  He's just going to look lanky compared to a 5'4 212 guy.  So it's really up to the judging.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 05:01:31 PM
Yeah, but you can be 5'5" like Flex Lewis and not qualify as having a classic physique.

I like the height weight thing because you can control the physiques but wouldn't these shows favor taller me.  Although a guy 6'1 210 lbs or whatever it is is going to look lanky against a 5'9 192 lbs guy.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Grape Ape on September 09, 2015, 05:02:26 PM
I'd have to disagree.  This country is due for a fitness revolution. More and more people are getting into fitness and health in the U.S. and you can attach fitness and health to a classic physique not a current pro. Classic is much more marketable to the general public so they're bound to gain new fans and athletes during this revolution.

Even the classic physique if full of drugs.   Even the classic physique is considered huge and gross to the general pop.  You (all of us, actually) are warped with this stuff since we've seen so much of it.

The general population isn't put off by Phil Heath and Co. because of his size.  They just don't give a shit on the subject.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: SF1900 on September 09, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
There's nothing stopping a 5'9 guy from entering the 212 division.  He's just going to look lanky compared to a 5'4 212 guy.  So it's really up to the judging.

There are too many fucking divisions.

So, pretty much, a competitor can enter any division he wants? There is nothing stopping Phil Heath from competing in the mens physique division (if he wanted to)?  ??? ???
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: wes on September 09, 2015, 05:06:52 PM
There are too many fucking divisions.

So, pretty much, a competitor can enter any division he wants? There is nothing stopping Phil Heath from competing in the mens physique division (if he wanted to)?  ??? ???
Only if it`s a pro event rather than an amatuer contest.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 05:07:33 PM
There are too many fucking divisions.

So, pretty much, a competitor can enter any division he wants? There is nothing stopping Phil Heath from competing in the mens physique division (if he wanted to)?  ??? ???

Yep. It generates more money for them and the fans/athletes are happy because there's something for everyone.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2015, 05:08:01 PM
 :o
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: robcguns on September 09, 2015, 05:08:03 PM
I think its a great way for it to go.Fuck wicked juiced uo freaks,these guys look so much better.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: wes on September 09, 2015, 05:09:20 PM
Looks like something Michaelangelo carved.   :o
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: WalterWhite on September 09, 2015, 05:09:54 PM
Here's your new champ

This looks like a bodybuilder that's conditioned. If classic is this big they might as well get rid of bb.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: _aj_ on September 09, 2015, 05:11:42 PM
This looks like a bodybuilder that's conditioned. If classic is this big they mine as well get rid of bb.

This dude is physique, he'll likely up the dose for classic.

Open is kaput.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
He looks badass. We're going to see a slew of badasses.   8)
It's about fucking time. UGH!  I wonder what guys from MuscleMania and Team Universe will do?
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: SF1900 on September 09, 2015, 05:13:38 PM
This dude is physique, he'll likely up the dose for classic.

Open is kaput.

Hes much too big for physique, but not quite big enough for classic. He's somewhere in the middle.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 05:14:21 PM
This dude is physique, he'll likely up the dose for classic.

Open is kaput.

Yep. There's no way open hangs around for long now that there's something legit to compare it to.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2015, 05:21:26 PM
Will the following drugs make a come back: Winstrol, Primobolan, (insert more)? Or will people just Tren it to win it?
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: WalterWhite on September 09, 2015, 05:24:49 PM
Hes much too big for physique, but not quite big enough for classic. He's somewhere in the middle.

See we already can't agree and we are smarter then the judges. :D
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: hench on September 09, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
Something very zane like here
This looks like a bodybuilder that's conditioned. If classic is this big they mine as well get rid of bb.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2015, 06:13:49 PM
 :)
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 09, 2015, 06:16:56 PM
Here's your new champ

great physique

great toupe too
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Hypo on September 09, 2015, 06:25:35 PM
And how long until this new "division" resembles open BBers? They could've just changed open to the normative ideal and competitors wouldn't be hitting HGH and insulin so much.  :-\
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on September 09, 2015, 06:27:37 PM
Looks incredible
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: TuHolmes on September 09, 2015, 06:28:58 PM
And how long until this new "division" resembles open BBers? They could've just changed open to the normative ideal and competitors wouldn't be hitting HGH and insulin so much.  :-\
Yes, it will happen eventually. Just as physique is doing currently. They keep on going to the extremes and no one does anything. Then they blame the competitors.

 ::)
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Grape Ape on September 09, 2015, 06:42:30 PM
Yep. There's no way open hangs around for long now that there's something legit to compare it to.

You're delusional.  Fans are always going to want to see the Ramy and Coleman freak types.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 09, 2015, 06:44:35 PM
 :)
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: wes on September 09, 2015, 06:56:31 PM
I`ve never seen arm vascularity quite like this guys.


Insane physique...........aweso me vacuum shot too.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: 38-26-40 on September 09, 2015, 07:04:34 PM
Finally a shot of his legs. Now I can say great physique.  :o
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: _aj_ on September 09, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
I must start hating on this man immediately. Too jacked, too good looking, dime sized nipples. He needs to be killed  >:(
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: stuntmovie on September 09, 2015, 07:14:41 PM
WIGGS, One again I totally agree with ya.

This is the new generation of bodybuilding, physique, fitness .... whatever you chose to call it ..... and puts the NPC/IFBB in direct competition with MuscleMania and the WBBF.

A very wise business practice.

The next few years will be very  interesting within the world of bodybuilding and all that is related to the world of bodybuilding.

I noticed that the physique competitors are making their own mark  within the Muscle and Fitness supplement ads  and  which some of us GetBiggers  forecast a couple of years back.

This is the new generation of 'bodybuilders' regardless of the event in which they decide to compete nor what and how GetBiggers refer to them

This marks the beginning of something new within 'bodybuilding' competition.

Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: The Ugly on September 09, 2015, 07:17:04 PM
Looks like something Michaelangelo carved.   :o

Yes, amazing. He's got Buchanan's waist.

Little fella?
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Azure on September 09, 2015, 07:41:46 PM
Yes, it will happen eventually. Just as physique is doing currently. They keep on going to the extremes and no one does anything. Then they blame the competitors.

 ::)

And then create ANOTHER new division.

I think you're right though because the open class is having their own revolution with the old guard falling off and new up and comers.  So if this new division has beautiful bodies and some charismatic personalities, I can see it soaring in popularity.

Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: The Scott on September 09, 2015, 08:25:40 PM
Yes, amazing. He's got Buchanan's waist.

Little fella?

He is smaller than Zane, so yes.  He is dinky. 
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: The Scott on September 09, 2015, 08:31:38 PM
As for Wiggs' ass-umption?
 
The world is all about excess and not what is better.  Schome's have taken physical culture and turned it against the general population.  It's like the Folsom Street Fair.  An event for the fetishists come out from the confines of their poor lives built upon sticky floors and ribbed condoms slathered in anal-eze.

Such as these judges kept the likes of Bob Paris from winning the Olympia and all because he was not just "gay" but well mannered and spoken.  Able to be accepted by the mainstream instead of their mainline.   

Fappoloogists the lot of them.  H.G. Wells' Morlocks made flesh and cold blood. 
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Tarantula157 on September 09, 2015, 10:09:04 PM
Here's your new champ
Great structure but would've looked better with more separation and less vascularity.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: SF1900 on September 09, 2015, 10:33:42 PM
See we already can't agree and we are smarter then the judges. :D

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: 38-26-40 on September 09, 2015, 10:58:42 PM
I must start hating on this man immediately. Too jacked, too good looking, dime sized nipples. He needs to be killed  >:(

LMAO!!!
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: local hero on September 09, 2015, 11:16:49 PM
As for Wiggs' ass-umption?
 
The world is all about excess and not what is better.  Schome's have taken physical culture and turned it against the general population.  It's like the Folsom Street Fair.  An event for the fetishists come out from the confines of their poor lives built upon sticky floors and ribbed condoms slathered in anal-eze.

Such as these judges kept the likes of Bob Paris from winning the Olympia and all because he was not just "gay" but well mannered and spoken.  Able to be accepted by the mainstream instead of their mainline.   

Fappoloogists the lot of them.  H.G. Wells' Morlocks made flesh and cold blood. 


Paris was never close to winning an Olympia, too soft/small..... Had nothing to do with him playing for your team
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Yamcha on September 10, 2015, 04:37:23 AM
It is a start. Now have all the division winners have a pose off for the MR. Olympia title at the end. Have the fans vote via social media, etc. Phil would NOT be the winner.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 10, 2015, 05:07:44 AM
Will the following drugs make a come back: Winstrol, Primobolan, (insert more)? Or will people just Tren it to win it?
Deca, D-Bol, Anavar. They were in my wheelhouse.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: stuntmovie on September 10, 2015, 01:28:46 PM
REP, Yea, Wiggs failed to mention ANAVAR and you beat me to it.

Didn't we used to call them "little blue footballs".

If I can find my old (very old) work out journal ..... I'll name a few more .
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: _aj_ on September 10, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
REP, Yea, Wiggs failed to mention ANAVAR and you beat me to it.

Didn't we used to call them "little blue footballs".

If I can find my old (very old) work out journal ..... I'll name a few more .

Hard to find legit and expensive.

Or so I am told.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 10, 2015, 01:41:46 PM
Is he 5 feet tall?  Looks like a fucking douche asshole.  Legs don't even match the upper body
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: denarii on September 10, 2015, 02:12:51 PM
you are going to get all American, aesthetic looking late 20s early 30s guys winning this and making bank from advertising contracts.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: stuntmovie on September 10, 2015, 02:55:27 PM
Here's more of the old stuff and possibly even more recent..... But I'm not sure if any of it is still in use today.

And the spelling may not be correct.  And there may be repeats.

Testosterone Cipioinate
Testosterone Propionate
Testosterone Enantheate

Anadrol 50

Finajet

Decca Durabfolin

To the best of my memory ... everything was legal back then and in some cases you didn't even need a doc's prescription.

SO there was no need for black market shit.

And the AMA was telling one and all that steroids did not work. (Something about Pablov's dog!)

And some of the more aggressive doctor's were asking us about the results after writing prescriptions.

There was little, if any, abuse and injections of any sort were not as common as they are today. In fact they were quite rare.

Eventually someone installed a dart board in the back room and it was used quite often. Use your imagination.

True story: We went to a horse show in Kentucky and individual horses were displayed for stud service. Each horse was extremely muscular so one of us (no name mentioned) waited until the auction was over and asked to meet the Vet .

We asked the vet how the horses got so muscular and the vet simply opened a refrigerator and said "Equapoise". (Spelling?)

We left with a bunch of Equipoise (spelling?) and the results were excellent except that from that day on, I counted with my feet and started running as soon as the front gate swung open.

To the best of my knowledge ... that was the beginning of the equipoise phase. (Could be wrong though.)

True story kept for the counting and the gate.

Howdy, WIGGS.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: mr.turbo on September 10, 2015, 03:25:50 PM
kevin english wins the 212, right after they create that division.

having a hard time getting excited about this.

what's the expression?

old wine in a new bottle
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 10, 2015, 03:37:35 PM
This looks like a bodybuilder that's conditioned. If classic is this big they might as well get rid of bb.

Just drop the prize money of the open and give most of it to the classic and you will see many of the bloated messes disappear. However people still like to see crazy big, so keep it like they do women's bodybuilding. It will just be an after thought where we will all look but be glad it him and not me that will probably be dead in 5 to 10 years...
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 10, 2015, 03:40:58 PM
You're delusional.  Fans are always going to want to see the Ramy and Coleman freak types.

And they will. Just like women's bodybuilding, the mentally ill still show up to compete. Most of us know that Men's bodybuilding "jumped the shark". Almost every bloated mess who competes, also happens to be some of the most ugliest people on the planet. These guys are competing at 4% bodyfat but with double chins. Time to package them up and put them all in the corner like they did with the women's...Give the money to the classic's. Give the supplement sponsor ships to the classics...
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: OlympiaGym on September 10, 2015, 07:03:24 PM
Will the OP find a job in 10 years?
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: mr.turbo on September 10, 2015, 09:35:41 PM
As for Wiggs' ass-umption?
 
The world is all about excess and not what is better.  Schome's have taken physical culture and turned it against the general population.  It's like the Folsom Street Fair.  An event for the fetishists come out from the confines of their poor lives built upon sticky floors and ribbed condoms slathered in anal-eze.

Such as these judges kept the likes of Bob Paris from winning the Olympia and all because he was not just "gay" but well mannered and spoken.  Able to be accepted by the mainstream instead of their mainline.   

Fappoloogists the lot of them.  H.G. Wells' Morlocks made flesh and cold blood. 

I do believe he came out toward the end of his career but that doesn't mean it wasn't a factor.

In fact, the guy never placed higher than 3rd in a pro show ( if I recall correctly )

which says everything about the way contests are judged right back into the 80's  :o

 8)
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Super Natural on September 11, 2015, 02:31:54 AM
Classic Physique/Classic bodybuilding =  ectomorphs: not willing to die for us bitches.

Open bodybuilding = mesomorphs: willing to die for us bitches.

Jokes aside, This won't affect open bodybuilding IMO - look classic bodybuilding has been hugely popular in EU for years now and open freak bodybuilding is still thriving there along side it. Lots of "scarcity mentality" bodybuilders feeling threatened by this - thinking it will take somthing away from them..maybe it will...cause as it stands not many can relate to the top guys at the Olympia - they look like freakin' aliens - This is mean to be pleasing to the eye like an art form, they need to get the judging back on track for open freak bodybuilding div. even if that means awarding the "smaller" more aspirational aesthetic physiques like Roden etc. in preference to mass and penelize those herniated turtle bellies, pizza back & obvious sythol abusers.

Here are some pics of classic bodybuilding  ~ which will be similar to Classic Physique I assume? A more aesthetic, aspirational,healthier and attainable look overall...I know what I'd rather look like!  8)
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Nether Animal on September 11, 2015, 03:04:34 AM
Is he 5 feet tall?  Looks like a fucking douche asshole.  Legs don't even match the upper body

He is indeed a flaming douchebag. Sadik destroys this guy.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Wiggs on September 11, 2015, 08:00:39 AM
He is indeed a flaming douchebag. Sadik destroys this guy.

Sadik's arms are too long. Artimus (that's his name) has a better upper body.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: stuntmovie on September 11, 2015, 08:34:11 AM
WIGGS, I'M NOT 100% sure here but .... I think that this new CLASSIC Division was made for the likes of these guys, but I am not positive that each of them would meet the  height/weight requirement and be in top condition.

Maybe you can let these GetBiggers know the height and weight of the following potential contenders (if you know) and if they would or would not qualify to participate within this new division.

I personally believe that this new division will open the floodgates for billions (exaggeration intended) of new NPC/IFBB classic contenders.

Here are just a few possible classic contenders who I think should de well in the not too distant future.

OPEN FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT

Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: stuntmovie on September 11, 2015, 08:37:10 AM
....



Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 11, 2015, 09:40:01 AM
Here's more of the old stuff and possibly even more recent..... But I'm not sure if any of it is still in use today.

And the spelling may not be correct.  And there may be repeats.

Testosterone Cipioinate
Testosterone Propionate
Testosterone Enantheate

Anadrol 50

Finajet

Decca Durabfolin

To the best of my memory ... everything was legal back then and in some cases you didn't even need a doc's prescription.

SO there was no need for black market shit.

And the AMA was telling one and all that steroids did not work. (Something about Pablov's dog!)

And some of the more aggressive doctor's were asking us about the results after writing prescriptions.

There was little, if any, abuse and injections of any sort were not as common as they are today. In fact they were quite rare.

Eventually someone installed a dart board in the back room and it was used quite often. Use your imagination.

True story: We went to a horse show in Kentucky and individual horses were displayed for stud service. Each horse was extremely muscular so one of us (no name mentioned) waited until the auction was over and asked to meet the Vet .

We asked the vet how the horses got so muscular and the vet simply opened a refrigerator and said "Equapoise". (Spelling?)

We left with a bunch of Equipoise (spelling?) and the results were excellent except that from that day on, I counted with my feet and started running as soon as the front gate swung open.

To the best of my knowledge ... that was the beginning of the equipoise phase. (Could be wrong though.)

True story kept for the counting and the gate.

Howdy, WIGGS.
Yup, I always wanted to try Finajet heard great things about back then. Never got the chance. Would never do Anadrol, too toxic. Heard some crazy shit from friends about side effects. Also never did Test was afraid of gyno. Stuck to low dosages of D'Bol, Deca, Anavar and Winstrol.
Title: Re: 10 years before classic physique division overtakes the Open.
Post by: Cableguy on September 11, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
:o

This. And it's fine if he packs on more size. As long as he keeps that waist small and doesn't lose the ability to do a vacuum.