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Title: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Army of One on September 10, 2015, 05:27:15 AM
Honest thoughts
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Yamcha on September 10, 2015, 05:36:59 AM
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Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Papper on September 10, 2015, 05:54:02 AM
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Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Man of Steel on September 10, 2015, 05:56:49 AM
Honest thoughts

I only suffer when you post.   ;D
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Zillotch on September 10, 2015, 06:00:13 AM
Its a combo deal, to some extent, but I find great pleasure in the toil required to achieve greatness.  
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Man of Steel on September 10, 2015, 06:05:15 AM
I'm a man of faith and because of the work God has done in me it has changed me.  I recognize FAR more blessings and positives in my life than ever before....from great to small.  Further, in those moments of trials and suffering I'm slowly yet more easily recognizing the opportunities for blessings.  It's easy to praise the good moments (and there are many), but I experience tremendous growth in times of suffering (there are those moments also).  In general I have much greater pleasure even in the suffering.  I give glory to God for that.     
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Papper on September 10, 2015, 06:18:33 AM
:o delete this crap

Done
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Donny on September 10, 2015, 06:29:54 AM
Done
nothing against you mate but most people here in Germany do not want to see that again. It is a symbol of hatred and mass Genocide. I have spoke to a few WW2 vets here and believe me they do not like to see it. maybe if some people heard their stories of Stalingrad then the Glamour would fade quickly.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: robcguns on September 10, 2015, 06:31:30 AM
Honest thoughts

Little of both.I honestly think if you dont have rough times you will never truly appreciate the good.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: OB1 on September 10, 2015, 06:37:55 AM
nothing against you mate but most people here in Germany do not want to see that again. It is a symbol of hatred and mass Genocide. I have spoke to a few WW2 vets here and believe me they do not like to see it. maybe if some people heard their stories of Stalingrad then the Glamour would fade quickly.

maybe you should delete the quote of it also
further up ^
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Donny on September 10, 2015, 06:39:58 AM
maybe you should delete the quote of it also
further up ^
Yes..
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Waller on September 10, 2015, 07:13:18 AM
I thought this was a Marty thread from the title.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Lustral on September 10, 2015, 07:34:51 AM
I thought this was a Marty thread from the title.

Nothing about electricity in title and only one spelling error. Could not be marty.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Army of One on September 10, 2015, 07:44:36 AM
Nothing about electricity in title and only one spelling error. Could not be marty.

2 and no question mark, but I had to lose characters to fit
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2015, 08:07:25 AM
You need rough times to be able to appreciate the good times more.

To be able to appreciate the little things in life.


Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Uncle Joon on September 10, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
Everything and I mean EVERYTHING is chemical and hormones.
Happiness is a formula. You just have to be a chemist and understand what you are doing.
You can engineer any feeling u want with a bit of practice.
Pretty sure 99% of you don't even understand what I am talking about.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on September 10, 2015, 08:19:21 AM
Everything and I mean EVERYTHING is chemical and hormones.
Happiness is a formula. You just have to be a chemist and understand what you are doing.
You can engineer any feeling u want with a bit of practice.
Pretty sure 99% of you don't even understand what I am talking about.


you are so smart  ::)
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Rascal full on September 10, 2015, 08:21:40 AM
I'm a man of faith and because of the work God has done in me it has changed me.  I recognize FAR more blessings and positives in my life than ever before....from great to small.  Further, in those moments of trials and suffering I'm slowly yet more easily recognizing the opportunities for blessings.  It's easy to praise the good moments (and there are many), but I experience tremendous growth in times of suffering (there are those moments also).  In general I have much greater pleasure even in the suffering.  I give glory to God for that.     

Question if I may....do you believe non believers end up in hell? This question and various answers I have heard has always intrigued me.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Uncle Joon on September 10, 2015, 08:27:58 AM
you are so smart  ::)

why is it that you can have the most depressed person in the world, give him MDMA and he will be the happiest he has been EVER in is life within 20 minutes.

Think before you speak minion.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2015, 08:36:36 AM
Don't use drugs Joon.

Don't you know they are bad for your health and wellbeing?

Effects of MDMA

Reported Undesirable Effects Effects (up to 1 week post-MMDA, or longer):

Anxiety
Restlessness
Irritability
Sadness
Impulsiveness
Aggression
Sleep Disturbances
Lack of appetite
Thirst
Reduced interest in and pleasure from sex
Significant reductions in mental abilities

Potential Adverse Health Effects:
Nausea
Chills
Sweating
Involuntary jaw clenching and teeth grinding
Muscle cramping
Blurred vision
Marked rise in body temperature (hyperthermia)
Dehydration
High Blood Pressure
Heart failure
Kidney failure
Arrythmia

Symptoms of MDMA Overdose:
High Blood Pressure
Faintness
Panic attacks
Loss of consciousness
Seizures
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 10, 2015, 08:38:36 AM
Everything and I mean EVERYTHING is chemical and hormones.
Happiness is a formula. You just have to be a chemist and understand what you are doing.
You can engineer any feeling u want with a bit of practice.
Pretty sure 99% of you don't even understand what I am talking about.


Buddy of mine went to a funeral on MDMA, said it was awesome.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Papper on September 10, 2015, 09:18:59 AM
nothing against you mate but most people here in Germany do not want to see that again. It is a symbol of hatred and mass Genocide. I have spoke to a few WW2 vets here and believe me they do not like to see it. maybe if some people heard their stories of Stalingrad then the Glamour would fade quickly.

I deleted mostly because it was not as funny as I thought.


Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: OB1 on September 10, 2015, 09:53:37 AM
I'm from Germany also.
It isn't really THAT funny.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Zillotch on September 10, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
Everything and I mean EVERYTHING is chemical and hormones.
Happiness is a formula. You just have to be a chemist and understand what you are doing.
You can engineer any feeling u want with a bit of practice.
Pretty sure 99% of you don't even understand what I am talking about.


There is intelligence on display in this post.

Buddy of mine went to a funeral on MDMA, said it was awesome.

 :D
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: wes on September 10, 2015, 10:33:06 AM
Everything and I mean EVERYTHING is chemical and hormones.
Happiness is a formula. You just have to be a chemist and understand what you are doing.
You can engineer any feeling u want with a bit of practice.
Pretty sure 99% of you don't even understand what I am talking about.

Do another line dude.
::)
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: beakdoctor on September 10, 2015, 04:18:58 PM
In the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Lustral on September 10, 2015, 04:28:46 PM

why is it that you can have the most depressed person in the world, give him MDMA and he will be the happiest he has been EVER in is life within 20 minutes.

Think before you speak minion.


Yeah and what about the comedown? Seratonin drops below base levels and you want to kill yourself. Law of diminishing returns also kicks in so you can never regain same high as first time... mdma is fun if you can do it odd time. Too much leads to long term issues (memory loss lowered iq) and also lowers base seratonin levels so less happy off it.

Another example is how do you top winning the lottery? It's all downhill from there. One massive high followed by fleeting moments of hedonism til you drop below where you were.

Anyway, side issue.

I'm with Kwon. You need the lows to appreciate the highs. That's why they say youth is wasted on the young. Imagine having the rubber joints and the energy and enthusiasm you had as a kid now?

To answer OP I get more pleasure now; more balanced mentally so I can cope and be resilient to hardship and appreciate good times even if that just means having a productive week or laughing my ass off to podcast I listen to (thebiggestproblemintheun iverse.com) with my son. I've had the hedonism and it was fun but I grew out of it.

Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 10, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
There are the occasional good times, but, for the most part, life is a fvcking grind.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: che on September 10, 2015, 05:32:43 PM
From the time I was born until I was 21 my life was hell ,  I have managed to turn my life around  now I feel happier than I ever have in my adult life
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2015, 05:49:15 PM
From the time I was born until I was 21 my life was hell ,  I have managed to turn my life around  now I feel happier than I ever have in my adult life

Good to hear Che, for me it was the other way around.

It was great until around 35+ when it turned into hell.

It's somewhat decent these days though but never thought i'd manage to get through to my 40s during that rough patch.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: che on September 10, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
Good to hear Che, for me it was the other way around.

It was great until around 35+ when it turned into hell.

It's somewhat decent these days though but never thought i'd manage to get through to my 40s during that rough patch.
Depression?
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2015, 06:14:05 PM
Depression?
Loss of loved ones, not one but several within a short timespan.

Took a toll on me.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Lustral on September 10, 2015, 06:43:40 PM
Depression?

You can be depressed even if all is ostensibly well. If you get through shit times you get stronger and appreciate good times.

I'm probably not alone in having had money before and lost it all and now I have it again but you bet I learned from my mistakes and enjoy it more having lived in shit accommodation, been in debt and felt hopeless.

I'd love another kid now I've a house and garden and stable life... pity about the juice.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: SF1900 on September 10, 2015, 06:45:06 PM
Loss of loved ones, not one but several within a short timespan.

Took a toll on me.

Sorry to hear, Kwon!
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: che on September 10, 2015, 06:59:47 PM
Loss of loved ones, not one but several within a short timespan.

Took a toll on me.

That sucks


You can be depressed even if all is ostensibly well. If you get through shit times you get stronger and appreciate good times.

I'm probably not alone in having had money before and lost it all and now I have it again but you bet I learned from my mistakes and enjoy it more having lived in shit accommodation, been in debt and felt hopeless.

I'd love another kid now I've a house and garden and stable life... pity about the juice.


I agree
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: OB1 on September 10, 2015, 07:03:05 PM
Like in bodybuilding you need resistance (read: suffering/obstacles) in life to build strength.
In the long run suffering is the better of the two.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: wes on September 10, 2015, 07:03:24 PM
Loss of loved ones, not one but several within a short timespan.

Took a toll on me.
Sorry to hear it brother.

My condolences.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Lustral on September 10, 2015, 07:09:43 PM
There are the occasional good times, but, for the most part, life is a fvcking grind.

Sitting in traffic and spending half the day emailing and contacting clients isn't fun but the moment you get a wad of cash or a thanks for help alleviates the shitty tedious stuff you have to do.

I worked my balls off and risked money since i got back from hols... few days later after stress, driving a shitload and networking I trebled money. 3 days of stress but I'd rather that than a week triddling thumbs and praying for a call for work.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Rascal full on September 10, 2015, 07:16:09 PM
Loss of loved ones, not one but several within a short timespan.

Took a toll on me.

Sorry to hear this buddy. Glad you came through it and know it gets easier.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Tapeworm on September 11, 2015, 06:49:05 AM
It doesn't matter.  Both are transient states that evaporate before you can put 'em on the scales to weigh up.  Besides, ain't a hard time been invented that I cannot handle.  Fact.  Jack.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: OB1 on September 11, 2015, 08:14:47 AM
It doesn't matter.  Both are transient states that evaporate before you can put 'em on the scales to weigh up.  Besides, ain't a hard time been invented that I cannot handle.  Fact.  Jack.

This is the correct mindset.
Title: Re: do u get greater amounts of pleasure or gter amounts of suffering\toil from life
Post by: Fortress on September 11, 2015, 08:27:38 AM
A huge fan of a few things in (my) life, but overall, not a fan of life.

Mostly, I'd imagine, because of the true ugliness of so many members of our species.

(Like the fella in this thread who prattles on about being a man of god. These dim bulbs never can come to the realization that "faith" has led man to the outer reaches of horror.)