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Title: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Neymar Barca on September 16, 2015, 09:00:45 AM
Kai greene has become money hungry NOTHING ELSE¨!!!lets see the facts,he had a 480k a year contract from MUSCLE MEDS and he DECIDED to terminate it if they didnt pay him 1 million $/year...the decline! so he did this drama to make a some kind of TMZ gossip boom (which actually happened) ONLY to launch a supplement company with his name on it,would his possibly 2nd place made this internet/gossip impact like the impact made this DRAMA?! NO!the new company DYNAMIK MUSLCE will attract advertistments and pay KAI 1million/year... KAI will do the ARNOLD EUROPE - collect 100k + PRAG another 100k....thats even like - the second OLYMPIA place... marketing  thing my friends nothing else!!!
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: Wiggs on September 16, 2015, 09:06:24 AM
Thanks bro
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: da_vinci on September 16, 2015, 09:08:11 AM
He's a rich man now, can do whataver he likes.
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: HarleyBreite on September 16, 2015, 09:09:04 AM
Some guys are ok with a check and never knowing if they could've been "The Best."  To each his own. No judgment here.
Title: When will the Kai Backlash start?
Post by: Al Doggity on September 16, 2015, 09:17:38 AM
Facts:
1)Phil was going to win this weekend, regardless of whether Kai competed or not.
2)Kai has no one to blame but himself for not competing this weekend. At best, his advisors screwed him by making diva demands. At worst, he actually has the option to compete and is throwing a tantrum.

Probabilities:
1)Kai is intentionally painting himself as a folkhero, at this point.
2)Once the heat of the moment dies down, it's gonna be a little more difficult to defend his actions. If he ever speaks on the circumstances with anything more than a few cryptic sentences, he'll look like an ass and a fool.


He was not always the people's champ. He has Heath to thank for a lot of that. How swift and dramatic will the market correction be?  Personally, I think a lot is riding on how Phil looks and acts this weekend.
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: phreak on September 16, 2015, 09:26:02 AM
Some guys are ok with a check and never knowing if they could've been "The Best."  To each his own. No judgment here.
Hard to make mortgage payments with a plastic trophy. If this is true he made a good call.
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: Nirvana on September 16, 2015, 09:49:12 AM
Who cares if you win a contest where a retired Jay beats big ramy, torn up Dorian beats Nasser, and Branch places at all?

Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: 240 is Back on September 16, 2015, 10:02:03 AM
Who cares if you win a contest where a retired Jay beats big ramy

biggest upset of all time.  where are those pics i made with their heads reversed?

Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: Neymar Barca on September 16, 2015, 10:09:16 AM
imagine KAI enetered the OLYMPIA with the BOOT of DYNAMIC MUSCLE,how much wooow factor would that company make if it was made just few weeks ago? and now with this DRAMA KAI will attrack more spotlight on himslef -> new company!!! theres NO OTHER reason!!! robin chang said that KAI received a contract in may and that he decided that he do not want to eneter the contest! WHY then training dieting etc if you already know that you wont do the contest?

and how can a new company pay KAI above 40k a month net (which he was receiving from MUSLCE MEDS),Hmmm KAI wanted 1million a year from muscle meds then drop them and signed with a company that cant pay him neither a fraction of that hmmm... PALUMBO said that if a heard correct that KAI made this decision with Aaron Singerman and PJ Braun,actually John Romano said it yesterday on the radio show! is that company in Florida that Dynamik Muscle?
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: Coffeed on September 16, 2015, 10:10:44 AM
Yes, well, the IFBB is a necessary evil if we want to see the worlds best bodybuilding superstars compete on a LEVEL, drug tested playing field.
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: SF1900 on September 16, 2015, 10:16:29 AM
Hard to make mortgage payments with a plastic trophy. If this is true he made a good call.

Hes probably already has a few million in the bank. If he invested properly, he will be fine.

Not to mention with his supplement company, and his bullshit philosophy, he can always continue to hold seminars, etc.
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: Red Hook on September 16, 2015, 10:22:15 AM
There is no way any supplement company is paying Kai or any bodybuilder $500K a year  ::)

What are MuscleMeds annual sales?   ::)

but I do agree that this is some kind of publicity stunt which appears to be working but he is burning a lot of bridges and white towels.

Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: 240 is Back on September 16, 2015, 10:24:13 AM
There is no way any supplement company is paying Kai or any bodybuilder $500K a year  ::)

Kai and Phil were both getting 40 to 60k a month, the past few years.  I think $550k was Phil's number, until he got the $1m payday he's currently enjoying. 
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: goku on September 16, 2015, 10:32:37 AM
There is no way any supplement company is paying Kai or any bodybuilder $500K a year  ::)

What are MuscleMeds annual sales?   ::)

but I do agree that this is some kind of publicity stunt which appears to be working but he is burning a lot of bridges and white towels.



thank fuck, a bit of common sense!
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: Neymar Barca on September 16, 2015, 12:35:05 PM
There is no way any supplement company is paying Kai or any bodybuilder $500K a year  ::)

What are MuscleMeds annual sales?   ::)

but I do agree that this is some kind of publicity stunt which appears to be working but he is burning a lot of bridges and white towels.


muscle meds sales are 40 million a year,so Kai asked to up his salary
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Parker on September 16, 2015, 01:15:38 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe back in the early 2000s, Arnold himself said that he thought bodybuilders should get $1 million for winning the Arnold Classic. But, it was not up to him. The Arnold Classic cannot pay out more than the Mr. Olympia, which is supposed to be the most important show. And that is why he gave a Hummer and Rolex to get around that.

So, if Arnold himself had said that, why are we calling the #2 in the world "greedy"?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Mr Anabolic on September 16, 2015, 01:30:38 PM
If I was Kai, I'd be taking that money and running too.  Less stress as well because it's one less show he has to worry about.
Title: Re: Kai Green did this ONLY for marketing reasons,was paid 1 million to NOT COMPETE
Post by: FermiDirac on September 16, 2015, 01:47:38 PM
Hes probably already has a few million in the bank. If he invested properly, he will be fine.

Not to mention with his supplement company, and his bullshit philosophy, he can always continue to hold seminars, etc.

If all else fails, he can revert to violate fruits on camera.  :-\
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: viking1 on September 16, 2015, 02:00:57 PM
Take that money, run with it, and use it when the kidneys start to go.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: The_Punisher on September 16, 2015, 03:40:22 PM
and how much he got after taxes?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: V Man on September 16, 2015, 05:27:34 PM
Whatever the reason for him not competing I support him. It's his life, and he can make whatever decisions he wants to make. If it's about money then good for him. He's given everything he has to bodybuilding, including several years off of his life, so why shouldn't he enjoy some monetary gain if an opportunity comes up. If he figured he can make more money by not competing then I don't blame him.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Neptuno on September 17, 2015, 12:30:13 AM
Only for tw points

Kai at the moment is not in the list for Arnold Europe.

the 100k in prize is the total amount, not the winner´s one. 40.000 $ I believe. So Praga is the same.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: calfzilla on September 17, 2015, 12:40:23 AM
1,000,000>480,000
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: pellius on September 17, 2015, 02:44:38 AM
As you get older you become more practical and less idealistic. It becomes a business. Odds are against him to ever winning the O no matter how good he gets. And I don't think he's ever really going to get any better. If he hasn't hit the conditioning necessary to win after all these years then it probably isn't going to happen at 40 years old.

Why is it greedy when someone accepts more money from another source but it's not greedy for all the people who has made money using him? Nobody is going to give him a million bucks if they don't think they are going to get that money back ten-fold.

If what you say is true then good for Kai. Take the million and fuck the IFBB. They're only there to use you to promote their own business and agenda.

Compared with how he could have ended up, Kai is winning in life.

Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: BigCyp on September 17, 2015, 02:48:20 AM
Kai greene has become money hungry NOTHING ELSE¨!!!lets see the facts,he had a 480k a year contract from MUSCLE MEDS and he DECIDED to terminate it if they didnt pay him 1 million $/year...the decline! so he did this drama to make a some kind of TMZ gossip boom (which actually happened) ONLY to launch a supplement company with his name on it,would his possibly 2nd place made this internet/gossip impact like the impact made this DRAMA?! NO!the new company DYNAMIK MUSLCE will attract advertistments and pay KAI 1million/year... KAI will do the ARNOLD EUROPE - collect 100k + PRAG another 100k....thats even like - the second OLYMPIA place... marketing  thing my friends nothing else!!!

Do mind if I share this with my son?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Yamcha on September 17, 2015, 02:48:40 AM
As you get older you become more practical and less idealistic. It becomes a business. Odds are against him to ever winning the O no matter how good he gets. And I don't think he's ever really going to get any better. If he hasn't hit the conditioning necessary to win after all these years then it probably isn't going to happen at 40 years old.

Why is it greedy when someone accepts more money from another source but it's not greedy for all the people who has made money using him? Nobody is going to give him a million bucks if they don't think they are going to get that money back ten-fold.

If what you say is true then good for Kai. Take the million and fuck the IFBB. They're only there to use you to promote their own business and agenda.

Compared with how he could have ended up, Kai is winning in life.



If this is the case, then this goes against ALL the philosophical bullshit that he has been spewing for the past decade.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: trapz101 on September 17, 2015, 02:54:22 AM
If this is the case, then this goes against ALL the philosophical bullshit that he has been spewing for the past decade.

he got realistic and practical..and less delusional which i think is right??
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on September 17, 2015, 03:14:50 AM
Do mind if I share this with my son?
haha
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: BigCyp on September 17, 2015, 05:22:05 AM
haha

 :D
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Parker on September 17, 2015, 05:29:27 AM
If this is the case, then this goes against ALL the philosophical bullshit that he has been spewing for the past decade.
I don't think it does. If a multiple Arnold Classic winner and the #2 bodybuilder in the world feels that he is worth more money, then why not ask for it? You are what you think are worth.
It's high time that these bodybuilders start to ask or demand for more. They are the ones who diet, take all the drugs, food, etc and hawk the supps for the companies.
And this goes right along with what he has been saying. Overcoming obstacles. Bodybuilders must overcome the obstacle of being or allowing themselves to be exploited or not getting paid what they are worth or their market value.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2015, 05:33:26 AM
I don't think it does. If a multiple Arnold Classic winner and the #2 bodybuilder in the world feels that he is worth more money, then why not ask for it? You are what you think are worth.
It's high time that these bodybuilders start to ask or demand for more. They are the ones who diet, take all the drugs, food, etc and hawk the supps for the companies.
And this goes right along with what he has been saying. Overcoming obstacles. Bodybuilders must overcome the obstacle of being or allowing themselves to be exploited or not getting paid what they are worth or their market value.

NFL players do it every year.   Phil is making a million a year.  Kai was making half that and made a move.  Happens in all sports when players want to be paid more.  The cost of finding another Kai Greene is a lot more than 400k. 

it all comes down to replaceability.  They can get almost anyone to host the show.  They can get anyone to run cameras.  But to replace a Kai on the stage?  20 years of training and eating and posing and developing fan base?   it's why Lebron is legit worth half a million per ball game played.  There is no replacing him easily. 

The CEO of McD is hard to replace, so he makes ten million.  The fry cook at McD can be trained in 30 minutes, so he makes 7 bucks.  Replaceability.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on September 17, 2015, 05:37:03 AM
:D
i lolled for real... this is probably whar mayor of bb does...his kids must be fucking tired of hearing about ripped glutes and shredded  hams
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: SquidVicious on September 17, 2015, 05:38:44 AM
The differences between Heath and Greene are education, business acumen, intelligence, upbringing, and emotional maturity. Heath can work with partners to run a business. It's only a matter of time before Greene hits the skids with his partners complaining about money, his share of the profits, his whacky ideas not being implemented etc. He's shown time after time that he can't maintain a normal relationship whether it's romantic, business, personal or otherwise. Just an all around fail. Phil wins again.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: BigCyp on September 18, 2015, 12:30:01 AM
i lolled for real... this is probably whar mayor of bb does...his kids must be fucking tired of hearing about ripped glutes and shredded  hams

Hahahaha I can actually picture the scene  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: io856 on September 18, 2015, 12:42:50 AM
The differences between Heath and Greene are education, business acumen, intelligence, upbringing, and emotional maturity. Heath can work with partners to run a business. It's only a matter of time before Greene hits the skids with his partners complaining about money, his share of the profits, his whacky ideas not being implemented etc. He's shown time after time that he can't maintain a normal relationship whether it's romantic, business, personal or otherwise. Just an all around fail. Phil wins again.
Phil has the mindset...
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: pellius on September 18, 2015, 01:37:52 AM
If this is the case, then this goes against ALL the philosophical bullshit that he has been spewing for the past decade.

What philosophy are you talking about?
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: HTexan on September 18, 2015, 09:15:51 AM
So he made more money not doing the Mr. olympia, and you're mad because you didn't see his oiled up body in a thong this year? 
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 18, 2015, 10:52:14 AM
If Gai Kreene was offered 1 mill to not compete, but 800.000 TO compete.

What do you think he would do?

I think he would have competed since he loves being on stage, and that feeling being worth 200k for him, towel or not.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Alucard on September 18, 2015, 11:16:58 AM
I don't think it does. If a multiple Arnold Classic winner and the #2 bodybuilder in the world feels that he is worth more money, then why not ask for it? You are what you think are worth.
It's high time that these bodybuilders start to ask or demand for more. They are the ones who diet, take all the drugs, food, etc and hawk the supps for the companies.
And this goes right along with what he has been saying. Overcoming obstacles. Bodybuilders must overcome the obstacle of being or allowing themselves to be exploited or not getting paid what they are worth or their market value.
Agreed, with Pellius too... A bit disappointed regarding the situation, we'll probably never know who's really to blame, IFBB/AMI or Greene, or both, but what can you say to him? He's 40 years old, he'll never win the Olympia no matter the shape, he hit his peak 5-6 years ago, if he can make more money without competing good for him...
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Kai Greene is greedy - was paid $1 million NOT to compete
Post by: Dave D on September 18, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Agreed, with Pellius too... A bit disappointed regarding the situation, we'll probably never know who's really to blame, IFBB/AMI or Greene, or both, but what can you say to him? He's 40 years old, he'll never win the Olympia no matter the shape, he hit his peak 5-6 years ago, if he can make more money without competing good for him...

Who's to blame as far as Kai not competing this year?  It should be obvious he didn't sign the contract, and if he wanted to compete I'm sure he would as all he'd have to do is pay some sort of fine, in this "sport" money always talks loudest.

It's fair to say he won't win the O no matter what condition he shows up in,  Phil has it and until the judges decide otherwise he will continue to win, as has been documented by the history of the contest (there's still people here that contest the validity of the 1980 Mr O), it's just the way it is. Outside of Dexter (and only God knows why he got a win at that time) the champ has to be in HORRIFIC shape and/or holding down his inevitable  successor (Ronnie/Jay)  in order to lose.

Kai, despite appearing to be a buffoon, is a lot smarter than he gets credit for. 

Bottom line, is he saw an opportunity and he took it.