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Title: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 25, 2015, 03:22:59 PM
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

Says Dr Dutch
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: 20inch calves on September 26, 2015, 04:44:48 AM
This is what the devil wants...religion is not a bad thing ..its the ppl that pervert it like everything else that makes it bad. If a guy/girl followed the bible to the letter their whole lives we wouldn't need laws and nobody would be in prison
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Nirvana on September 26, 2015, 05:03:42 AM
Two of the churches I attended have done great things for countless people.  A Christian company I used to work for has done unrepayable good for thousands of people throughout the years.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Mr Anabolic on September 26, 2015, 05:10:20 AM
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

Says Dr Dutch


Watching sports on tv is considered a "hobby"?  -lol
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 05:46:51 AM
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

Says Dr Dutch


OK, we get it. You're not religious. You claim you don't care if others are "be my guest, believe what you want..."

So what is the point of this thread? Why are you even starting a thread about religion?

Are you really a doctor? If so, what kind?
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: devilsmile on September 26, 2015, 05:48:23 AM
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

Says Dr Dutch


ok
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 26, 2015, 05:50:10 AM
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

Says Dr Dutch


Bad things come from false religion. 
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: SquatsRule on September 26, 2015, 06:51:50 AM
This is what the devil wants...religion is not a bad thing ..its the ppl that pervert it like everything else that makes it bad. If a guy/girl followed the bible to the letter their whole lives we wouldn't need laws and nobody would be in prison

Yes, mass stonings in the streets. No need for law there.  ::)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Tapeworm on September 26, 2015, 07:24:57 AM
it's your hobby !!!!


Your faith in your threads is yours!

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/26/article-2378396-1AFF21FD000005DC-749_306x423.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 26, 2015, 08:26:22 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 26, 2015, 08:28:18 AM
Being human is bullshit. Being a conscious being is a mistake of evolution, a curse. No religion, religion... it's just pain and endless bullshit. :D

I linked this text to Uberman some time ago, I saw he was impressed by it  :D


Quote
Peter W. Zapffe - The Last Messiah

One night in long bygone times, man awoke and saw himself.

He saw that he was naked under cosmos, homeless in his own body. All things dissolved before his testing thought, wonder above wonder, horror above horror unfolded in his mind.

Then woman too awoke and said it was time to go and slay. And he fetched his bow and arrow, a fruit of the marriage of spirit and hand, and went outside beneath the stars. But as the beasts arrived at their waterholes where he expected them of habit, he felt no more the tiger’s bound in his blood, but a great psalm about the brotherhood of suffering between everything alive.

That day he did not return with prey, and when they found him by the next new moon, he was sitting dead by the waterhole.

II

Whatever happened? A breach in the very unity of life, a biological paradox, an abomination, an absurdity, an exaggeration of disastrous nature. Life had overshot its target, blowing itself apart. A species had been armed too heavily – by spirit made almighty without, but equally a menace to its own well-being. Its weapon was like a sword without hilt or plate, a two-edged blade cleaving everything; but he who is to wield it must grasp the blade and turn the one edge toward himself.

Despite his new eyes, man was still rooted in matter, his soul spun into it and subordinated to its blind laws. And yet he could see matter as a stranger, compare himself to all phenomena, see through and locate his vital processes. He comes to nature as an unbidden guest, in vain extending his arms to beg conciliation with his maker: Nature answers no more, it performed a miracle with man, but later did not know him. He has lost his right of residence in the universe, has eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and been expelled from Paradise. He is mighty in the near world, but curses his might as purchased with his harmony of soul, his innocence, his inner peace in life’s embrace.

So there he stands with his visions, betrayed by the universe, in wonder and fear. The beast knew fear as well, in thunderstorms and on the lion’s claw. But man became fearful of life itself – indeed, of his very being. Life – that was for the beast to feel the play of power, it was heat and games and strife and hunger, and then at last to bow before the law of course. In the beast, suffering is self-confined, in man, it knocks holes into a fear of the world and a despair of life. Even as the child sets out on the river of life, the roars from the waterfall of death rise highly above the vale, ever closer, and tearing, tearing at its joy. Man beholds the earth, and it is breathing like a great lung; whenever it exhales, delightful life swarms from all its pores and reaches out toward the sun, but when it inhales, a moan of rupture passes through the multitude, and corpses whip the ground like bouts of hail. Not merely his own day could he see, the graveyards wrung themselves before his gaze, the laments of sunken millennia wailed against him from the ghastly decaying shapes, the earth-turned dreams of mothers. Future’s curtain unravelled itself to reveal a nightmare of endless repetition, a senseless squander of organic material. The suffering of human billions makes its entrance into him through the gateway of compassion, from all that happen arises a laughter to mock the demand for justice, his profoundest ordering principle. He sees himself emerge in his mother’s womb, he holds up his hand in the air and it has five branches; whence this devilish number five, and what has it to do with my soul? He is no longer obvious to himself – he touches his body in utter horror; this is you and so far do you extend and no farther. He carries a meal within him, yesterday it was a beast that could itself dash around, now I suck it up and make it part of me, and where do I begin and end? All things chain together in causes and effects, and everything he wants to grasp dissolves before the testing thought. Soon he sees mechanics even in the so-far whole and dear, in the smile of his beloved – there are other smiles as well, a torn boot with toes. Eventually, the features of things are features only of himself. Nothing exists without himself, every line points back at him, the world is but a ghostly echo of his voice – he leaps up loudly screaming and wants to disgorge himself onto the earth along with his impure meal, he feels the looming of madness and wants to find death before losing even such ability.

But as he stands before imminent death, he grasps its nature also, and the cosmic import of the step to come. His creative imagination constructs new, fearful prospects behind the curtain of death, and he sees that even there is no sanctuary found. And now he can discern the outline of his biologicocosmic terms: He is the universe’s helpless captive, kept to fall into nameless possibilities.

From this moment on, he is in a state of relentless panic.

Such a ‘feeling of cosmic panic’ is pivotal to every human mind. Indeed, the race appears destined to perish in so far as any effective preservation and continuation of life is ruled out when all of the individual’s attention and energy goes to endure, or relay, the catastrophic high tension within.

The tragedy of a species becoming unfit for life by overevolving one ability is not confined to humankind. Thus it is thought, for instance, that certain deer in paleontological times succumbed as they acquired overly-heavy horns. The mutations must be considered blind, they work, are thrown forth, without any contact of interest with their environment.

In depressive states, the mind may be seen in the image of such an antler, in all its fantastic splendour pinning its bearer to the ground.

Rest of the essay here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/3c1t59/peter_w_zapffe_the_last_messiah_no_tldr/
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: SF1900 on September 26, 2015, 08:30:37 AM
Being human is bullshit. Being a conscious being is a mistake of evolution, a curse. No religion, religion... it's just pain and endless bullshit. :D

Reminds me of a Schopenhauer quote:

"Life swings like a pendulum backward and forward between pain and boredom."
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: hardgainerj on September 26, 2015, 08:35:50 AM
Two of the churches I attended have done great things for countless people.  A Christian company I used to work for has done unrepayable good for thousands of people throughout the years.
how does this prove christianity is valid?
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 26, 2015, 08:38:19 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 26, 2015, 08:44:49 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: BigRo on September 26, 2015, 08:59:23 AM
its humans who degrade, distort and pervert religion. The real living meaning of the word is to unite with the Divine.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 26, 2015, 09:15:31 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 26, 2015, 09:56:12 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=582732.0;attach=651723;image)So circulating a black square shaped idol in Mecca is a hobby?

I'd ask Dr Dutch  :)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Nirvana on September 26, 2015, 10:00:19 AM
how does this prove christianity is valid?
It's not supposed to. No one questioned the validity of Christianity.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Necrosis on September 26, 2015, 10:29:28 AM
Bad things come from false religion. 

Fuck off, you are to be stoned for wearing clothing of two different fabrics, to death.

The book is full of bullshit, immoral nonsense, there would be far more problems on earth IF we followed the bible, luckily no one does.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Necrosis on September 26, 2015, 10:30:37 AM
This is what the devil wants...religion is not a bad thing ..its the ppl that pervert it like everything else that makes it bad. If a guy/girl followed the bible to the letter their whole lives we wouldn't need laws and nobody would be in prison


Ya, no one would be in prison ::)

They tried that back in the back in the day, the followed the bible, lots of suffering resulted.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 26, 2015, 10:40:56 AM
how does this prove christianity is valid?

Because giving and helping freely as opposed to a government that steals your money for the benefit of themselves is what separates a giving church from a stealing government. 
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 11:18:05 AM
Because giving and helping freely as opposed to a government that steals your money for the benefit of themselves is what separates a giving church from a stealing government.  

The same govt who lets church, uhh i mean a money making BUSINESS/scam tax exempt? Lol. Pretty cool that your govt allows this scam to be run in this country for free. You should love this govt. All bible thumpers should love our govt for allowing their churches to operate for free. Now you can empty your wallet to the corrupt church scams all over the country and get nothing but false hopes in return. Lol church owns you.

A "giving church"....ROFL.

Go back to bed little boy, grown ups be discussin things
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 26, 2015, 11:23:36 AM
The same govt who lets church, uhh i mean a money making BUSINESS/scam tax exempt? Lol. Pretty cool that your govt allows this scam to be run in this country for free. You should love this govt. All bible thumpers should love our govt for allowing their churches to operate for free. Now you can empty your wallet to the corrupt church scams all over the country and get nothing but false hopes in return. Lol church owns you.

Go back to bed little boy, grown ups be discussin things

Yeah, go back to bed little boy. You're out of your league as usual. What percentage of your income to freely give each week, month or year. My guess is little to none.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 26, 2015, 11:26:00 AM
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 11:28:36 AM
Yeah, go back to bed little boy. You're out of your league as usual. What percentage of your income to freely give each week, month or year. My guess is little to none.

lol please stop owning yourself man, damn. Address my argument, or GTFO with your lame recycled talking points.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Croatch on September 26, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
The same govt who lets church, uhh i mean a money making BUSINESS/scam tax exempt? Lol. Pretty cool that your govt allows this scam to be run in this country for free. You should love this govt. All bible thumpers should love our govt for allowing their churches to operate for free. Now you can empty your wallet to the corrupt church scams all over the country and get nothing but false hopes in return. Lol church owns you.

A "giving church"....ROFL.

Go back to bed little boy, grown ups be discussin things
Spot on.  Churches collect something like 100 billion a year in donations.  Praying isn't cheap these days...haha. If you currently give money to the imaginary guy in the sky...let me know and I'll give you a swift smack.  You'll thank me down the road when you need the cash and your wife is ill.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Rami on September 26, 2015, 11:29:59 AM
Humans are the problem. Humans want religion, that's is the issue.



Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 26, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
lol please stop owning yourself man, damn. Address my argument, or GTFO with your lame recycled talking points.

Answer the fucking question. This country has gone even further to shit because of liberal immorality that's a fact son.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 11:53:03 AM
Answer the fucking question. This country has gone even further to shit because of liberal immorality that's a fact son.

Ok sure ill regretfully answer this..i donate to many shelter organizations, i donate my time as well. I also donate to other dog shelters and volunteer my time there too. Last ear i donated to an african memorial fund for fallen Sudanese park rangers amd their families if you need a specific example. I will never disclose how much i donate as that defeats the purpose of donating. "liberal immorality" lol more talking points from The Coach "kim davis is my hero" Is Back. Fucking asshole asking people where And how much they donate..lol pretty "christian" of you

Now, since i answered your question after you still have not answered mine when i asked first...ill ask again. Shouldnt a jesus boy like yourself love this govt? After all, they allow the scam you support to operate tax free. Pretty cool right? All day you bash the govt, yet its the sole reason why your scam is so successful in the usa
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: _bruce_ on September 26, 2015, 12:10:34 PM
Of course, "Dr" Dutch.

Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 05:54:46 PM
how does this prove christianity is valid?

This wasn't meant as a proof of the validity of Christianity. It was simply a statement that there are specific instances where Christianity does some good in the world.

People are absolutely clueless how much charity and selfless help Christians around the world do to make this world a better place.

Or church has raised over 20 grand to help people who lost or hand great damage done to their homes in a recent flood. This is not to mention all the donated items as well as offering up their homes to help make this transition period more bearable.

This is just one church that has made a big difference in other people's lives.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 06:24:54 PM
Fuck off, you are to be stoned for wearing clothing of two different fabrics, to death.

The book is full of bullshit, immoral nonsense, there would be far more problems on earth IF we followed the bible, luckily no one does.

Yes, and as our society has gotten more secular and even anti-religious, people have gotten more decent, honest, moral, respectful, less crass and obscene....

By all accounts, our culture and society is headed in the right direction and only better days lay ahead.  ::)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 06:28:31 PM
Yes, and as our society has gotten more secular and even anti-religious, people have gotten more decent, honest, moral, respectful, less crass and obscene....

By all accounts, our culture and society is headed in the right direction and only better days lay ahead.  ::)

And most of those obscene, unmoral, and less honest folks would identify as being a christian. Just look at any poll showing how many americans identify as some form of christianity. Fuck outta here acting like religious people are better people than non christians. People are people, and they are all shitty but for a small handful of believers and non believers alike. Get your "moral" head out of your ass and look outside
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 06:29:29 PM
The same govt who lets church, uhh i mean a money making BUSINESS/scam tax exempt? Lol. Pretty cool that your govt allows this scam to be run in this country for free. You should love this govt. All bible thumpers should love our govt for allowing their churches to operate for free. Now you can empty your wallet to the corrupt church scams all over the country and get nothing but false hopes in return. Lol church owns you.

A "giving church"....ROFL.

Go back to bed little boy, grown ups be discussin things

The government "allows" religion to operate for free?

 It's in our Constitution. People are free to practice their religion. They are free to donate goods, services and money. They are free to donate nothing. What scam? Everything is voluntary.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 06:31:49 PM
The government "allows" religion to operate for free?

 It's in our Constitution. People are free to practice their religion. They are free to donate goods, services and money. They are free to donate nothing. What scam? Everything is voluntary.

Lol churches of any religion pay NO taxes, but they are a business, dont kid yourself into thinking they arnt. Quite the scam. Tax free money making business raking in the dough from the poor and destitute.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 06:32:59 PM
Spot on.  Churches collect something like 100 billion a year in donations.  Praying isn't cheap these days...haha. If you currently give money to the imaginary guy in the sky...let me know and I'll give you a swift smack.  You'll thank me down the road when you need the cash and your wife is ill.

The Catholic church alone gives far more money helping the poor and sick than any atheist organization.

And praying is free.

And I give money to the church and I'd love to see you try to give me a swift smack.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 06:34:15 PM
The Catholic church alone gives far more money helping the poor and sick than any atheist organization.

And praying is free.

And I give money to the church and I'd love to see you try to give me a swift smack.

Please provide proof of first statement, thanks.

Also, didnt think too many orgs identify as "atheist" lol
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Set It Up on September 26, 2015, 06:35:08 PM
The Catholic church alone gives far more money helping the poor and sick than any atheist organization.

And praying is free.

And I give money to the church and I'd love to see you try to give me a swift smack.

no trolling, no being a dick, just straight up. If you and I fought I would wager everything on me. In a straight up fight I would absolutely rock you. Im beyond confident of this
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 06:37:15 PM
The Catholic church alone gives far more money helping the poor and sick than any atheist organization.

And praying is free.

And I give money to the church and I'd love to see you try to give me a swift smack.

Priced appropriately.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 06:37:40 PM
And most of those obscene, unmoral, and less honest folks would identify as being a christian. Just look at any poll showing how many americans identify as some form of christianity. Fuck outta here acting like religious people are better people than non christians. People are people, and they are all shitty but for a small handful of believers and non believers alike. Get your "moral" head out of your ass and look outside

Wrong.

Wrong and ignorant.

It really, really bothers you that people don't share the same belief system as you do. It just eats away at you that people of faith on balance live happier and more fulfilling lives.

That just eats away at your empty soul.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 06:38:08 PM
no trolling, no being a dick, just straight up. If you and I fought I would wager everything on me. In a straight up fight I would absolutely rock you. Im beyond confident of this

Christians are not supposed to fight so if he was a real christian, he would forefit...but like all religious, he will pick and choose what verses to follow and which ones to interpret to fit his agenda
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 06:39:22 PM
Wrong.

Wrong and ignorant.

It really, really bothers you that people don't share the same belief system as you do. It just eats away at you that people of faith on balance live happier and more fulfilling lives.

That just eats away at your empty soul.

What was wrong about what i said?
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Set It Up on September 26, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Christians are not supposed to fight so if he was a real christian, he would forefit...but like all religious, he will pick and choose what verses to follow and which ones to interpret to fit his agenda

dont most do that? I like Coach but he is an extreme pick and chooser. Pellius is also an obvious one. Religion is beyond a joke
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 06:40:26 PM
Lol churches of any religion pay NO taxes, but they are a business, dont kid yourself into thinking they arnt. Quite the scam. Tax free money making business raking in the dough from the poor and destitute.

Wrong again. Money is donated.

You kid yourself because you have a jealous and hostile attitude toward people of faith.

Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 06:40:29 PM
Christians are not supposed to fight so if he was a real christian, he would forefit...but like all religious, he will pick and choose what verses to follow and which ones to interpret to fit his agenda

Depends which verse you read.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 06:41:29 PM
What was wrong about what i said?

"Unmoral" for starters.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Set It Up on September 26, 2015, 06:41:51 PM
Wrong again. Money is donated.

You kid yourself because you have a jealous and hostile attitude toward people of faith.



Somehow I dont think laughing at the stupidity of can be equated to jealous and hostile
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 06:43:11 PM
Please provide proof of first statement, thanks.

Also, didnt think too many orgs identify as "atheist" lol

Look it up yourself. I already related how our own church is involved is helping people whose homes were damaged by a storm. You find it hard to believe because of your bias and anger against people of faith.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 26, 2015, 06:43:37 PM
Two of the churches I attended have done great things for countless people.  A Christian company I used to work for has done unrepayable good for thousands of people throughout the years.

This.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 06:45:06 PM
Christians are not supposed to fight so if he was a real christian, he would forefit...but like all religious, he will pick and choose what verses to follow and which ones to interpret to fit his agenda

Wrong again.

I love it when non Christians attempt to school practicing Christians on the tenets and beliefs of Christianity.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 06:50:29 PM
I love practicing Christians who pretend God is good.

Then again, never met one who's read the whole book.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 06:54:18 PM
Look it up yourself. I already related how our own church is involved is helping people whose homes were damaged by a storm. You find it hard to believe because of your bias and anger against people of faith.

Man u sure do pick n choose what points to argue over..never did i say your church didnt donate. Please provide where i said this. Two..cool, ill look it up those "facts" and own you. While I do this, look up what percentage of the USA is Aligned with some form of christianity, and then try and plead your case that the small fraction of atheists are the reason for the countries huge and growing moral crisis. Out of Your entire rant here, this one thing shows how delusional you and your minions of "moral" crusaders are...that you actually believe that these rude, disloyal, non-moral and obscene people in the world are some how overwhelmingly non-christians. I mean what a fuckin laugh fest. Delusion at is finest. Last i checked, the percentage was almost 85-90 percent of the USA is some form of christian/jew, etc. ROFL, On a day to day basis you might graze the shoulders of an atheist walking down the street, and where im from, thats if your lucky. Chances are, that atheist is wise enough to not state his beliefs either for fear of alienating himself in the workplace, social circles, etc. get the fck outa here with "woes me, the atheist world is causing all sorts of problems, wah wah". Thats like blaming the "jews" for all your problems. Just more delusional bllshit for those wo cant cope with real life
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 06:57:25 PM
I love practicing Christians who pretend God is good.

Then again, never met one who's read the whole book.

It doesn't surprise me that you've never met anyone that has read the whole Bible. You are who you associate with.

That's why you just assume that all Christians never doubt the goodness of God.

It always amazes me that people with such limited experiences (and all of us are limited in that way) just assume they know it all.

Dear Harley,

I believe in a creator simply because it's hard for me to believe that all of this around us just happened purely by chance. That the universe somehow always existed and through a random concussions of molecules evolve to what we have today.

I, too, have struggled mightily with the thoughts you expressed and believe that the bad in this world far outweighs the good. That's why I never had kids (though I was always willing to adopt) and what ended my marriage.

So, to me, a far more interesting question is not whether or not a God exist, but is he good?
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 06:59:19 PM
It doesn't surprise me that you've never met anyone that has read the whole Bible. You are who you associate with.

That's why you just assume that all Christians never doubt the goodness of God.

It always amazes me that people with such limited experiences (and all of us are limited in that way) just assume they know it all.


Guess that explains the junior high-level comprehension. Extra word is yours.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 07:01:30 PM
Man u sure do pick n choose what points to argue over..never did i say your church didnt donate. Please provide where i said this. Two..cool, ill look it up those "facts" and own you. While I do this, look up what percentage of the USA is Aligned with some form of christianity, and then try and plead your case that the small fraction of atheists are the reason for the countries huge and growing moral crisis. Out of Your entire rant here, this one thing shows how delusional you and your minions of "moral" crusaders are...that you actually believe that these rude, disloyal, non-moral and obscene people in the world are some how overwhelmingly non-christians. I mean what a fuckin laugh fest. Delusion at is finest. Last i checked, the percentage was almost 85-90 percent of the USA is some form of christian/jew, etc. ROFL, On a day to day basis you might graze the shoulders of an atheist walking down the street, and where im from, thats if your lucky. Chances are, that atheist is wise enough to not state his beliefs either for fear of alienating himself in the workplace, social circles, etc. get the fck outa here with "woes me, the atheist world is causing all sorts of problems, wah wah". Thats like blaming the "jews" for all your problems. Just more delusional bllshit for those wo cant cope with real life

The only one ranting is you. Your hostility and anger towards people of faith is abundantly clear. It says more about you than about believers.

And what people say and what they do and believe are often worlds apart.

A survey was conducted where almost 65% of people believed that animals should have the same basic rights as human. Yet only around 7% of the population are true vegetarians.

Look up cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 07:07:49 PM
The only one ranting is you. Your hostility and anger towards people of faith is abundantly clear. It says more about you than about believers.

And what people say and what they do and believe are often worlds apart.

A survey was conducted where almost 65% of people believed that animals should have the same basic rights as human. Yet only around 7% of the population are true vegetarians.

Look up cognitive dissonance.

You don't say.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 26, 2015, 07:09:04 PM
The only one ranting is you. Your hostility and anger towards people of faith is abundantly clear. It says more about you than about believers.

And what people say and what they do and believe are often worlds apart.

A survey was conducted where almost 65% of people believed that animals should have the same basic rights as human. Yet only around 7% of the population are true vegetarians.

Look up cognitive dissonance.

Adressed none of my argument again..delusion of peace. No hostility, just perplexed by delusion of this scale. in fact, your vegan "point" just proved my point totally. You pulled a "Coach". no matter what religion people identify with, immoral obscene and bad behavior will occur regardless, as people are people and religion is just a facade to try and look good externally to others...but deep down, everyone is a piece of shit except for a small minority of believers and non believers. Lack of Religion has nothing to do with the morality crisis you bring up. Thanks for proving my point with those stats bro.

Ok im off to bed, gonna fondle my wives big fake tits now. Enjoy your bible
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 07:30:56 PM
Adressed none of my argument again..delusion of peace. No hostility, just perplexed by delusion of this scale. in fact, your vegan "point" just proved my point totally. You pulled a "Coach". no matter what religion people identify with, immoral obscene and bad behavior will occur regardless, as people are people and religion is just a facade to try and look good externally to others...but deep down, everyone is a piece of shit except for a small minority of believers and non believers. Lack of Religion has nothing to do with the morality crisis you bring up. Thanks for proving my point with those stats bro.

Ok im off to bed, gonna fondle my wives big fake tits now. Enjoy your bible

Coach and I, along with many others of faith,  will also continue with our lives believing that it does matter how a person behaves and what they believe. Whether they are good or evil. That there is a final justice to all this madness. Though we are not perfect, it gives us the strength and the will to be the best we can be knowing that we will have to answer for our deeds, both good and bad.

Meanwhile you will continue with a life that really has no transcendent meaning expressing your jealousy and hostility towards people who are not like you. Nothing, in the grand scheme of things matter. Good and evil are meaningless.

What an empty, hollow and vapid way to live. But it doesn't make me angry or hostile. I just feel grateful that there is something in my life greater than myself. That it does matter what I do or don't do. That there is a right and wrong that exist independently from my own whims and desires. 

“Without God all things are permitted.”

― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Set It Up on September 26, 2015, 07:39:28 PM
Coach and I, along with many others of faith,  will also continue with our lives believing that it does matter how a person behaves and what they believe. Whether they are good or evil. That there is a final justice to all this madness. Though we are not perfect, it gives us the strength and the will to be the best we can be knowing that we will have to answer for our deeds, both good and bad.

Meanwhile you will continue with a life that really has no transcendent meaning expressing your jealousy and hostility towards people who are not like you. Nothing, in the grand scheme of things matter. Good and evil are meaningless.

What an empty, hollow and vapid way to live. But it doesn't make me angry or hostile. I just feel grateful that there is something in my life greater than myself. That it does matter what I do or don't do. That there is a right and wrong that exist independently from my own whims and desires. 

“Without God all things are permitted.”

― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS FROM HIM???????????????????????????? do you just make shit up to satisfy your own agenda? Holy fuck the guy makes an opinion and all of a sudden he's evil and empty and hollow. And you arent angry or hostile, yet Ive seen you probably hundreds of times on this board tell people you could beat the shit out of them. What color is the sky in your world? Are you drunk? Are you on drugs? WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING????????????
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 07:40:37 PM
WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS FROM HIM???????????????????????????? do you just make shit up to satisfy your own agenda? Holy fuck the guy makes an opinion and all of a sudden he's evil and empty and hollow. And you arent angry or hostile, yet Ive seen you probably hundreds of times on this board tell people you could beat the shit out of them. What color is the sky in your world? Are you drunk? Are you on drugs? WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING????????????

Rhetorical, right?
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Set It Up on September 26, 2015, 07:43:37 PM
Rhetorical, right?

I apologize for not being smart enough to know what that means
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 07:52:23 PM
I apologize for not being smart enough to know what that means

Means your question was really a statement, because the answer is obvious.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Set It Up on September 26, 2015, 07:53:36 PM
Means your question was really a statement, because the answer is obvious.

ah, sometimes Im not too swift  :D :( :'( :)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 07:59:13 PM
ah, sometimes Im not too swift  :D :( :'( :)

Smarter than most, friend.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Croatch on September 26, 2015, 08:09:48 PM
The Catholic church alone gives far more money helping the poor and sick than any atheist organization.

And praying is free.

And I give money to the church and I'd love to see you try to give me a swift smack.
So the church gives 100 billion a year to people?  When did this happen?
Oh, I'd only be smacking you for your own well being.  Much like you spank a child who doesn't know any better.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 26, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 26, 2015, 08:35:45 PM
:)

Feel free to move it, pal.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: pellius on September 26, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
So the church gives 100 billion a year to people?  When did this happen?
Oh, I'd only be smacking you for your own well being.  Much like you spank a child who doesn't know any better.

No, you wouldn't. You'd be down on your knees praying to God to save you.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Julio Ceasar on September 26, 2015, 11:29:08 PM
Religion is a great help and support when life fuck u in the ass! Its a friendly book, there to help you!

Some people need it, a lot of people need it! But they are not aware of it...

Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: 10pints on September 27, 2015, 02:33:23 AM
Religion is the most pernicious mind virus known to mankind.

Its mode of action begins in the suspension of all logical thought and then renders the infected subject to an imagined all seeing force. The all seeing force keeps a tally of said person's actions, in preparation for a future trial, in a celestial realm, the exact date of which is yet to be decided.

This trial is to be presided over by the imagined force, with no recourse to appeal. If found guilty, the accused will be sent to another realm, where they will be tortured for eternity by a different imagined force. This imagine force having fallen out with the trial judge imagined force over a difference of opinion.

Sounds completely plausible.

Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: BigRo on September 27, 2015, 02:38:49 AM
suspension of thought, exactly what you aim for with your 10 pints.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: 10pints on September 27, 2015, 02:51:56 AM
suspension of thought, exactly what you aim for with your 10 pints.

Come on now Ro, as an Irish man, you know that many a great conversation / debate has happened in the fine ale houses in the UK & Ireland. Moments of clarity and inspiration are often acquired in moments of altered states. Man has, since time immemorial, sought out ways in which to expand his world view through the ingestion of substances. Alcohol is but one weapon in the armory, one which I readily admit to enjoying.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: BigRo on September 27, 2015, 02:53:55 AM
I agree, however you should try sober stillness of mind too. Also some magic mushrooms.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: 10pints on September 27, 2015, 02:56:45 AM
I agree, however you should try sober stillness of mind too. Also some magic mushrooms.

I practice sobriety for 6 days a week. As for shrooms, love them.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 27, 2015, 07:13:59 AM
I love practicing Christians who pretend God is good.

Then again, never met one who's read the whole book.

Your lucky day!!  I'm a practicing Christian who knows the goodness of God and I've read the whole book!!!

I even know some of the verses by heart!
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Set It Up on September 27, 2015, 07:20:58 AM
Your lucky day!!  I'm a practicing Christian who knows the goodness of God and I've read the whole book!!!

I even know some of the verses by heart!

Im totally anti religion..but MOS is the only person on getbig who is a genuine Christian and knows and believes and practices what he says. I actually respect him
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Radical Plato on September 27, 2015, 07:23:06 AM
This is what the devil wants...religion is not a bad thing ..its the ppl that pervert it like everything else that makes it bad. If a guy/girl followed the bible to the letter their whole lives we wouldn't need laws and nobody would be in prison
This post is the very reason religion should be banned, just observe how religious indoctrination has destroyed any logical thought processes in the victim.  This is the whole point of religion, to destroy reason and logic.  Some could say reason and logic are the highest good and religion is basically the DEVIL.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: mr.turbo on September 27, 2015, 08:06:25 AM
I agree that the devil created religion
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 27, 2015, 08:20:21 AM
Im totally anti religion..but MOS is the only person on getbig who is a genuine Christian and knows and believes and practices what he says. I actually respect him

I appreciate that. 

Would be happy to provide you a tight spot on some deep squats.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The True Adonis on September 27, 2015, 09:13:30 AM
Ok sure ill regretfully answer this..i donate to many shelter organizations, i donate my time as well. I also donate to other dog shelters and volunteer my time there too. Last ear i donated to an african memorial fund for fallen Sudanese park rangers amd their families if you need a specific example. I will never disclose how much i donate as that defeats the purpose of donating. "liberal immorality" lol more talking points from The Coach "kim davis is my hero" Is Back. Fucking asshole asking people where And how much they donate..lol pretty "christian" of you

Now, since i answered your question after you still have not answered mine when i asked first...ill ask again. Shouldnt a jesus boy like yourself love this govt? After all, they allow the scam you support to operate tax free. Pretty cool right? All day you bash the govt, yet its the sole reason why your scam is so successful in the usa
I believe the church should always operate tax free.  If the church did not operate in this manner and did have to pay taxes, it would then become way too powerful and you would then have full blown religious entities legally operating as lobbyists looking to secure anything that will benefit them from the government writ large, thus giving them a foothold directly in the government.  They would also want more representation as a tax paying body and expect more from the government with what would be, insane demands.  This would allow them to permeate and then pollute further, with hooks in schools, state facilities and who knows what else.

Keeping them tax free in fact ensures that they do not have a stronger voice in political affairs.  
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Bigblackstallion on September 27, 2015, 10:33:31 AM
The Church is losing members & money and they are getting more and more Desperate.

Religion is DYING in the U.S.  Catholicism especially because of all the molestations came to light.

Italian and Irish gays no longer feel ashamed and don't feel the need to give themselves over to Priesthood.

Notice how there are more Spanish and African priest.

Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Set It Up on September 27, 2015, 11:36:13 AM
I appreciate that. 

Would be happy to provide you a tight spot on some deep squats.

errrrr   :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 27, 2015, 12:00:44 PM
Your lucky day!!  I'm a practicing Christian who knows the goodness of God and I've read the whole book!!!

I even know some of the verses by heart!

Dammit, guy, you know my tirades never include you. In fact, you're often the single exception.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Parker on September 27, 2015, 12:14:37 PM
How about we post less about God/religion on the G&O board and post the threads on the religious board? It seems that the people who don't like religion or God, or complain about those topics, post the most threads on the G&O about it. Why is that?
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 27, 2015, 12:20:16 PM
How about we post less about God/religion on the G&O board and post the threads on the religious board? It seems that the people who don't like religion or God, or complain about those topics, post the most threads on the G&O about it. Why is that?

Only place it'll get read.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: BigRo on September 27, 2015, 12:21:43 PM
How about we post less about God/religion on the G&O board and post the threads on the religious board? It seems that the people who don't like religion or God, or complain about those topics, post the most threads on the G&O about it. Why is that?

because there religious about not being religious.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 27, 2015, 12:25:36 PM
Dammit, guy, you know my tirades never include you. In fact, you're often the single exception.

I just wanted to participate!!  :)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 27, 2015, 12:33:10 PM
I believe the church should always operate tax free.  If the church did not operate in this manner and did have to pay taxes, it would then become way too powerful and you would then have full blown religious entities legally operating as lobbyists looking to secure anything that will benefit them from the government writ large, thus giving them a foothold directly in the government.  They would also want more representation as a tax paying body and expect more from the government with what would be, insane demands.  This would allow them to permeate and then pollute further, with hooks in schools, state facilities and who knows what else.

Keeping them tax free in fact ensures that they do not have a stronger voice in political affairs. 

True story
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 27, 2015, 12:37:43 PM
How about we post less about God/religion on the G&O board and post the threads on the religious board? It seems that the people who don't like religion or God, or complain about those topics, post the most threads on the G&O about it. Why is that?

thread and post traction
lesser chance of specific moderation of posts
"dogpile" effect less common
not as fun
can't troll the religion board easily
general G&O boredom
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Skeletor on September 27, 2015, 12:42:27 PM
Your lucky day!!  I'm a practicing Christian who knows the goodness of God and I've read the whole book!!!

I even know some of the verses by heart!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Ned_Flanders.png)
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 27, 2015, 12:44:14 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Ned_Flanders.png)

Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: The Ugly on September 27, 2015, 02:10:28 PM
I just wanted to participate!!  :)

Understood. I'm trying to stay away, really. Just not very hard. Like Michael in Godfather III.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Thong Maniac on September 28, 2015, 04:07:20 AM
Coach, aint letting you off that easy...i answered your question now answer mine. No shctick, no talking points, no loyalist rhetoric, just answer the question ..i answered yours.
Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: paradoxno1 on September 28, 2015, 10:45:26 AM
If you rearrange the letters in the words Religion, you can make "Microwave."  No, don't test it or question it, just believe me.



Title: Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
Post by: Man of Steel on September 28, 2015, 11:08:04 AM
If you rearrange the letters in the words Religion, you can make "Microwave."  No, don't test it or question it, just believe me.





Asking questions is pretty easy for most, so perhaps we can table that aspect and assume it's accounted for....questions have been asked basically.

So, how would you test the reality of God?  

Would you follow the testimonial evidence of other believers and abide by their path to God as outlined in scripture (coming to God on his terms basically)?

Would you demand testing criteria of your own invention or a methodical, naturalistic scientific approach?

This all assumes of course that you desire to understand God's reality.

Curious.