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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Nether Animal on September 27, 2015, 07:36:26 PM
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Just like the tank top Mr O, where Roelly Winklaar recently dethroned Dennis James we have the "Dialysis Mr. O" - only competitors who have survived dialysis treatment or a transplant are eligible.
Mental illnesns of peace keeps these guys juicing even after their health scares.
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Who r the first two?
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Who r the first two?
Sorry its
Marko Savolainen
Daz Ball
Don Long
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Daz doesn't seem to be going crazy...don long and Marco both already received kidneys so I suppose they feel safe in doing what they r doing
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Is that a recent don long pic?
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What about Tom Prince.
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Daz Ball had horrible genetics for bb'ing to begin with. A true mental illness in action. Tried to overcome his flaws with ridiculous drug abuse, turned out you still need certain genetics to be a pro. Fukkin retard.
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Get the fuck out of here you bitter asshole.
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What about Tom Prince.
Tylenol induced dialysis doesn't count.
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Id say don long,he looked huge after transplant,not sure if he still is though.
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What about Tom Prince.
Never stepped foot in a gym again, so he isn't applicable.
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We should be showing these gentlemen the uttermost respect for showing us that blowing out our kidneys dosent mean an end to training and usage of anabolic hormones.
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Marko recently.
Dude doesn't seem to age much at all, and considering what his body has been through it is impressive. Strong Finnish genes.
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I used to transport people to dialysis....What a nightmare.
They would stumble out nauseous and sometimes streaming blood down from their stent. I used to wait out front for them and often would hear a siren in the distance and knew it was coming to where I was. Firetruck would pull up, EMT'S rush into Davita, bring out person on stretcher. This happened sometimes 2-3 times per week. People were dying constantly, The 3 people I transported all died. Probably 50% of the people died in a 5 year period. Typically it was 3-4 hours of dialysis 3 times per week. You can skip a session periodically, but one friend of mine skipped one session and died the next day.Sometimes they died while hooked up to the machine. Some people got fed up and refused to continue, they would live about 2 weeks and die. Got to be depressing.
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It's not that extreme. Kidney failure alone rarely kills, the trouble is that the kidneys regulate potassium and phosphorus and high levels of these can stop the heart straight out/deposit calcium in arteries causing a heart attack. Kidney failure on its own you wouldn't even know someone was sick by looking at him but many are elderly and usually diabetic, have heart trouble and other serious ailments. Dialysis makes people feel better but if the person isn't following the kidney diet or fluid restrictions they and up having to have more fluid taken off them by the machine so instead of a litre being taken off they could have many litres having to get taken out of them and this is what leads to headaches and nausea and cramps etc through extreme dehydration.
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Diabetic penis neck of peace
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Phil_Heath.JPG)
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What about Tom Prince.
he is not big anymore
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Ronnie looks like crapp, but he's not on dialysis, no mr O is.....so STFU.
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Daz Ball wants to do 212, but he is 6'1", should do the new classic thing instead.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMHJij0WsAAEnU-.jpg)
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Daz Ball wants to do 212, but he is 6'1", should do the new classic thing instead.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMHJij0WsAAEnU-.jpg)
His mother gave him a kidney and his body accepted it well. He's not 6'1 man, no way, I've met him at the English gp expo a few years back, I would've said 5'8
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Daz Ball wants to do 212, but he is 6'1", should do the new classic thing instead.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMHJij0WsAAEnU-.jpg)
You think that Daz has the structure for that? I'll be honest, dude seemed to have the most naturally palumbowned torso out there for a while..
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a kidney is just a kidney...a Plastic Trophy is worth way more.. ;)
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Kidney's are a dime a dozen...The Plastic trophy is few and far between...Plus with a win, he can raise his G4p prices by two or three times...
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It's not that extreme. Kidney failure alone rarely kills, the trouble is that the kidneys regulate potassium and phosphorus and high levels of these can stop the heart straight out/deposit calcium in arteries causing a heart attack. Kidney failure on its own you wouldn't even know someone was sick by looking at him but many are elderly and usually diabetic, have heart trouble and other serious ailments. Dialysis makes people feel better but if the person isn't following the kidney diet or fluid restrictions they and up having to have more fluid taken off them by the machine so instead of a litre being taken off they could have many litres having to get taken out of them and this is what leads to headaches and nausea and cramps etc through extreme dehydration.
WRONG, wow
Please don't miss lead the folks here
Renal failure leads to dialysis which is a very tricky proposition with many issues, too many to describe here. Renal failure is deadly
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LOL AGREED Where is this BROSCIENCE COMING FROM !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Not that bad??? Are you F'N kidding me?!!? Exactly the mentality of this generation... We are all doomed
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Daz Ball had horrible genetics for bb'ing to begin with. A true mental illness in action. Tried to overcome his flaws with ridiculous drug abuse, turned out you still need certain genetics to be a pro. Fukkin retard.
Rather extreme.
Have you reached a higher level than Daz in Bodybuilding.
Why the Hate.
Do you know Daz..???
I do.
While I think Daz went To High & to long on his drug usage
None of us truly know what he was doing.
Only he does.
And I doubt if his going to say.
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It's not that extreme. Kidney failure alone rarely kills, the trouble is that the kidneys regulate potassium and phosphorus and high levels of these can stop the heart straight out/deposit calcium in arteries causing a heart attack. Kidney failure on its own you wouldn't even know someone was sick by looking at him but many are elderly and usually diabetic, have heart trouble and other serious ailments. Dialysis makes people feel better but if the person isn't following the kidney diet or fluid restrictions they and up having to have more fluid taken off them by the machine so instead of a litre being taken off they could have many litres having to get taken out of them and this is what leads to headaches and nausea and cramps etc through extreme dehydration.
lol yes kidney failure, not big deal :D
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Is that a recent don long pic?
Id say don long,he looked huge after transplant,not sure if he still is though.
He looks really bad right now. All drugs. Also, it looks like he lost a couple of inches. Herniated discs perhaps?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/28652/0/d/img_38041393914503.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/28652/0/d/img_38031393914503.jpg)
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He looks really bad right now. All drugs. Also, it looks like he lost a couple of inches. Herniated discs perhaps?
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/28652/0/d/img_38041393914503.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/28652/0/d/img_38031393914503.jpg)
lotta funny shit posted on getbig tonight.
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LOL AGREED Where is this BROSCIENCE COMING FROM !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Not that bad??? Are you F'N kidding me?!!? Exactly the mentality of this generation... We are all doomed
He meant it's not that bad of a price to pay compared to infinite IFBB glory.
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WRONG, wow
Please don't miss lead the folks here
Renal failure leads to dialysis which is a very tricky proposition with many issues, too many to describe here. Renal failure is deadly
My best friend is on dialysis (non bodybuilder), trust me man, I know it inside out, I used bring him to the dialysis unit and collect him for the first few months when they wouldnt let him drive after a dialysis session. Im not saying renal failure isnt serious, but people dying left right and centre is exagerrated. Plus the people who die all have other serious conditions too
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lol yes kidney failure, not big deal :D
I didn't say it wasn'ta big deal. But, and I stand by this, things can be kept under control once on dialysis with proper diet and fluid intake. Unlike say cancer which keeps attacking you, you can live on dialysis for many years if you stick to the proper food and rules.
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Someone say Daz Ball? *W8M8 signal initiated*
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Someone say Daz Ball? *W8M8 signal initiated*
She wasn't a fan of daz if memory served
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Have you reached a higher level than Daz in Bodybuilding.
Why the Hate.
Do you know Daz..???
I do.
While I think Daz went To High & to long on his drug usage
None of us truly know what he was doing.
Only he does.
And I doubt if his going to say.
I have seen him quite some years ago live on stage and told my friend "THis fella won't end well", it was obvious dude was out of his mind regarding drugs, you just can tell while looking at some. Some look healthy and well even when very big and this fella just looked like something went wrong. Horrible genetics for that anyway, if you know him you should've been one of these who told him that he should just stop, but I guess mots of the "friends" around enjoyed seeing how fella is fucking himself up and felt better about themselves.
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I have seen him quite some years ago live on stage and told my friend "THis fella won't end well", it was obvious dude was out of his mind regarding drugs, you just can tell while looking at some. Some look healthy and well even when very big and this fella just looked like something went wrong. Horrible genetics for that anyway, if you know him you should've been one of these who told him that he should just stop, but I guess mots of the "friends" around enjoyed seeing how fella is fucking himself up and felt better about themselves.
and still looks like hes juicing after getting his mothers kidney.
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She wasn't a fan of daz if memory served
Understatement. 8)
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Sorry, not one to post much. Usually just visit for info and laughs at some of your antics here.
But as a dialysis nurse for 16 years, I couldn't help but to chime in.
First the need for dialysis is a direct result of organ failure, it is very serious. Without some form of renal replacement therapy, the end stage renal disease patient will die. That's partially the reason why you may have seen some die from skipping one treatment. And it probably wasn't the first time they had skipped. This group is notorious for noncompliance with their therapy and honestly I can't blame them. They can't eat or drink anything. You think eating clean is a challenge, their diet is tough. And they do it to survive. So I do the best I can to teach them and encourage them to do what they need to do to live a long happy life. I've had patients who have lived on dialysis for over 20 years and some who don't make it a couple years. And yes there are some who say that isn't how they want to live their lives and sign off and die. If that's their decision, then I respect that.
Now to discuss the original thought of someone who has received a transplant and continues to do things that might potentially harm the new kidney. My feeling is that it is very disrespectfull to endanger the new kidney. The transplanted kidney survives in a body that could turn and attack it at any point, so might thought is to do whatever it takes to protect it. Someone either had to go thru a very painful surgery to donate the kidney or if it was a cadaver kidney, then someone died to give that kidney or organ. And after having had a family member be an organ donor, you would hope that the person that receives the gift of life and a 2nd chance would be thankful enough to protect it with all they can do. It doesn't always work out but all anyone can ask is to do your best. So in my mind if you are fortunate enough to receive a kidney, you should honour that gift and take care of it. Sure, go about your life and live it to the fullest. Excercise, bodybuild, but do it the right way. Do it under a doctor's guidance and for heavens sake don't put anything into your body that will harm that kidney.
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My best friend is on dialysis (non bodybuilder), trust me man, I know it inside out, I used bring him to the dialysis unit and collect him for the first few months when they wouldnt let him drive after a dialysis session. Im not saying renal failure isnt serious, but people dying left right and centre is exagerrated. Plus the people who die all have other serious conditions too
Not interested in arguing, however, inside and out, is something I know about far to well. Having a friend using dialysis is sad, undergoing dialysis is horrible, knowing all about it is another level, I doubt either of you understand fully.
Your sample is very very small, trust me, all die from renal failure eventually. No dialysis access lasts forever and eventually all anatomic options are eventually exhausted. Many many other conditions / illnesses are directly related to renal failure.
Sad indeed.
All the best to your friend.
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Savolainen must have been the best bodybuilder in Scandinavia ever! To bad he couldent continue...
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Sorry, not one to post much. Usually just visit for info and laughs at some of your antics here.
But as a dialysis nurse for 16 years, I couldn't help but to chime in.
First the need for dialysis is a direct result of organ failure, it is very serious. Without some form of renal replacement therapy, the end stage renal disease patient will die. That's partially the reason why you may have seen some die from skipping one treatment. And it probably wasn't the first time they had skipped. This group is notorious for noncompliance with their therapy and honestly I can't blame them. They can't eat or drink anything. You think eating clean is a challenge, their diet is tough. And they do it to survive. So I do the best I can to teach them and encourage them to do what they need to do to live a long happy life. I've had patients who have lived on dialysis for over 20 years and some who don't make it a couple years. And yes there are some who say that isn't how they want to live their lives and sign off and die. If that's their decision, then I respect that.
Now to discuss the original thought of someone who has received a transplant and continues to do things that might potentially harm the new kidney. My feeling is that it is very disrespectfull to endanger the new kidney. The transplanted kidney survives in a body that could turn and attack it at any point, so might thought is to do whatever it takes to protect it. Someone either had to go thru a very painful surgery to donate the kidney or if it was a cadaver kidney, then someone died to give that kidney or organ. And after having had a family member be an organ donor, you would hope that the person that receives the gift of life and a 2nd chance would be thankful enough to protect it with all they can do. It doesn't always work out but all anyone can ask is to do your best. So in my mind if you are fortunate enough to receive a kidney, you should honour that gift and take care of it. Sure, go about your life and live it to the fullest. Excercise, bodybuild, but do it the right way. Do it under a doctor's guidance and for heavens sake don't put anything into your body that will harm that kidney.
Well said !
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dam long looks fucked up in every sort of way
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I appreciate both your input vascsurgeon and chillchand. Fistulas forever
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Sorry, not one to post much. Usually just visit for info and laughs at some of your antics here.
But as a dialysis nurse for 16 years, I couldn't help but to chime in.
First the need for dialysis is a direct result of organ failure, it is very serious. Without some form of renal replacement therapy, the end stage renal disease patient will die. That's partially the reason why you may have seen some die from skipping one treatment. And it probably wasn't the first time they had skipped. This group is notorious for noncompliance with their therapy and honestly I can't blame them. They can't eat or drink anything. You think eating clean is a challenge, their diet is tough. And they do it to survive. So I do the best I can to teach them and encourage them to do what they need to do to live a long happy life. I've had patients who have lived on dialysis for over 20 years and some who don't make it a couple years. And yes there are some who say that isn't how they want to live their lives and sign off and die. If that's their decision, then I respect that.
Now to discuss the original thought of someone who has received a transplant and continues to do things that might potentially harm the new kidney. My feeling is that it is very disrespectfull to endanger the new kidney. The transplanted kidney survives in a body that could turn and attack it at any point, so might thought is to do whatever it takes to protect it. Someone either had to go thru a very painful surgery to donate the kidney or if it was a cadaver kidney, then someone died to give that kidney or organ. And after having had a family member be an organ donor, you would hope that the person that receives the gift of life and a 2nd chance would be thankful enough to protect it with all they can do. It doesn't always work out but all anyone can ask is to do your best. So in my mind if you are fortunate enough to receive a kidney, you should honour that gift and take care of it. Sure, go about your life and live it to the fullest. Excercise, bodybuild, but do it the right way. Do it under a doctor's guidance and for heavens sake don't put anything into your body that will harm that kidney.
Sir That is one Hell of a 1st post
Very well said.
The problem is we are Humans & the seeds
Of self destruction can run Deep.
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What about Chris Dim? He had major heart surgery and went back to competing (very unsuccessfully health wise) after this. I know it isn't kidneys but it's still pissing away your second chance at life
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What about Chris Dim? He had major heart surgery and went back to competing (very unsuccessfully health wise) after this. I know it isn't kidneys but it's still pissing away your second chance at life
He was just trying to make his family name proud. Noble, albeit ill-fated endeavour.
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I have seen him quite some years ago live on stage and told my friend "THis fella won't end well", it was obvious dude was out of his mind regarding drugs, you just can tell while looking at some. Some look healthy and well even when very big and this fella just looked like something went wrong. Horrible genetics for that anyway, if you know him you should've been one of these who told him that he should just stop, but I guess mots of the "friends" around enjoyed seeing how fella is fucking himself up and felt better about themselves.
Daz is / was a grown man... I know him
Can't say as A Close Friend.
Have been to his gym
Several times & trained with him.
Tried to give my opinions & advice.
Probably like a lot of others.
As for his Genetics Clearly not the best for top level
Competition. Though he has looked very good at times
And when not at his Heaviest.
Your dislike & ridicule of him I don't quite follow.
Has he done Something personal towards you.
Ah yes I forgot this is GetBig.
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Kris Dim, somepeople never learn, I believe hhe's paralysed now
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Kris Dim, somepeople never learn, I believe hhe's paralysed now
Jeez. Not good.
If that is true.
Caused by...??
If you know.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=432125.0
Here you go man
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I nominate Rich Piana as an obvious potential competitor.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=432125.0
Here you go man
I think he had a stent placed in his abdominal aorta, sadly, the small vessels feeding his spine where likely covered by the stent therefore eliminating blood flow to his spinal chord resulting in paralysis.
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Hate Daz......love haagen-dazs though.................. ..
(https://images.rapgenius.com/ed288c1039752478f63adf196c647d9b.837x779x1.jpg)
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I nominate Rich Piana as an obvious potential competitor.
They can call it Pialysis.