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Title: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 03, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
I dont get these "false flags" in the States. So are people trying to say this is all an act? These people are or arent dead?  Seems a little ridiculous to me that this false flag shit can be pulled off by a whole shitload of people. Someone American explain this to me
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Stephano on October 03, 2015, 11:03:13 AM
I've never understood it either.  I can only suppose that people are attracted to conspiracy theories; they want to believe that they see something that others don't see, and that they possess hidden knowledge. 
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
I dont get these "false flags" in the States. So are people trying to say this is all an act? These people are or arent dead?  Seems a little ridiculous to me that this false flag shit can be pulled off by a whole shitload of people. Someone American explain this to me

Some people say that false flags exist when 2 things happen: 1) the family of the victim does not cry or even mourn after the death of their murdered family member. 2) The living family members focus 100% on getting new gun legislation passed (they don't want to discuss the perpetrator or the victims)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 03, 2015, 11:04:31 AM
I've never understood it either.  I can only suppose that people are attracted to conspiracy theories; they want to believe that they see something that others don't see, and that they possess hidden knowledge. 

I agree with you on this,..it jsut doesnt  make sense to me at all
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 03, 2015, 11:06:01 AM
I dont get these "false flags" in the States. So are people trying to say this is all an act? These people are or arent dead?  Seems a little ridiculous to me that this false flag shit can be pulled off by a whole shitload of people. Someone American explain this to me

False flag, is that similar to Order 66?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: TuHolmes on October 03, 2015, 11:07:11 AM
False flag, is that similar to Order 66?

Is there a Sith Lord of the false flags?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 03, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
False flag, is that similar to Order 66?

your insubordination will not be tolerated today  >:( >:( :-X :-X
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2015, 11:14:52 AM
Its all staged. Everyone is an actor/actress. All of the victims are really alive.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Dave D on October 03, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
The world is filled with all types of people.

Distrust of government isn't a new phenomenon. People in general are superstitious. The superstition plays into fears. Many are afraid of losing rights and becoming "enslaved" by the government, while failing to realize that they're actual slaves to the monetary debt they've occurred.

Conspiracies help people make sense of things they don't understand.

It's like all the illuminate references throughout the internet, even if it/they were as strong, powerful and influential as its made out to be your options are limited, you couldn't disband it. Conspiracy works the same way, even with the facts people will believe what they want.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Stephano on October 03, 2015, 11:16:47 AM
Its all staged. Everyone is an actor/actress. All of the victims are really alive.

So what then?  Do the "victims" go into the witness protection program or something?  If so, wouldn't a lot of people need to be in on it?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 03, 2015, 11:18:59 AM
So what then?  Do the "victims" go into the witness protection program or something?  If so, wouldn't a lot of people need to be in on it?


SF1900 is drunk, disregard him  :D
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2015, 11:20:26 AM
So what then?  Do the "victims" go into the witness protection program or something?  If so, wouldn't a lot of people need to be in on it?


No.

They just wear these and no one recognizes them

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Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Wiggs on October 03, 2015, 11:21:14 AM
I'll explain later. The U.S. has used plenty if false flag operations.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Dave D on October 03, 2015, 11:21:51 AM
So what then?  Do the "victims" go into the witness protection program or something?  If so, wouldn't a lot of people need to be in on it?


The "victims" either aren't real, computer generated  composites, or they're unaware they've been used in this manner as their memories have been wiped (think of neurolizer from the men in black movie).

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on October 03, 2015, 11:22:06 AM
A government you can't trust
Run by pathological liars
Blinded by ideology
Will do anything to promote their cause
Always believing the end justifies the means
Acting in complete denial when caught in outright lies
And accepting no accountability or responsibility for their actions
While being completely devoid of any moral compass

And people start to question the timing and look of things that appear suspiciously perfect to promote the government's political agenda.

But.....lots and lots of crackpot tin foil hat looney tunes Wiggses out there too.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2015, 11:23:48 AM
SF1900 is drunk, disregard him  :D

Shizzo and I had a few beers together.  :D :D
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 03, 2015, 11:24:27 AM
I'll explain later. The U.S. has used plenty if false flag operations.

I'll send you 5 dollars paypal TO NOT explain your theories in here
prefer sane people to do it
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Dave D on October 03, 2015, 11:26:52 AM
I'll send you 5 dollars paypal TO NOT explain your theories in here
prefer sane people to do it

Lol

I'm curious to see how wiggs would explain the false flags.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on October 03, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
Lol

I'm curious to see how wiggs would explain the false flags.

The idiot will claim he knew about them ahead of time or predicted them.

6th worst poster on the site
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 03, 2015, 11:53:34 AM
Two words:

Nibiru
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2015, 02:57:19 PM
I dont get these "false flags" in the States. So are people trying to say this is all an act? These people are or arent dead?  Seems a little ridiculous to me that this false flag shit can be pulled off by a whole shitload of people. Someone American explain this to me

It can't, obviously. Ridiculous, disprovable fantasies, every one. Just bored/gullible onliners obsessed with seeing stuff where stuff ain't; all desperately trying to make a Dan Brown thriller of their mundane day-to-day.

Again, easily disprovable - you have to really WANT to believe.

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 03, 2015, 03:09:39 PM
I dont get these "false flags" in the States. So are people trying to say this is all an act? These people are or arent dead?  Seems a little ridiculous to me that this false flag shit can be pulled off by a whole shitload of people. Someone American explain this to me

People are very much killed in false flag operations.  It's a covert operation or attack that is perpetrated by a government or organization, in order to deceive the public into the belief that it was carried out by other entities.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2015, 03:30:18 PM
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Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on October 03, 2015, 03:32:08 PM
People are very much killed in false flag operations.  It's a covert operation or attack that is perpetrated by a government or organization, in order to deceive the public into the belief that it was carried out by other entities.

If Obama couldn't get 4 people out of Benghazi, he sure as fuck couldn't plan Sandy Hook.

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 03, 2015, 03:33:35 PM
If Obama couldn't get 4 people out of Benghazi, he sure as fuck couldn't plan Sandy Hook.



I'm not well versed enough on Sandy Hook to even comment.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on October 03, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
I'm not well versed enough on Sandy Hook to even comment.

It was just an example....
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 03, 2015, 03:38:23 PM
It was just an example....

Remember though, Obama was a community organizer.   ;D
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Las Vegas on October 03, 2015, 03:41:27 PM
Some people say that false flags exist when 2 things happen: 1) the family of the victim does not cry or even mourn after the death of their murdered family member. 2) The living family members focus 100% on getting new gun legislation passed (they don't want to discuss the perpetrator or the victims)

This can get weird as fuck.  Because one incident would be strange, but the next upon next...

Without trying, I can think of at least three times that's happened.

If I wanted to guess what's occurring,  I'd say it looks like someone is making contact with the people before they go public.  Maybe someone forceful is approaching them and convincing them that they're "our only chance" to "fix the problem" type thing, and it has an unbelievably powerful impact on them.

Sounds kinda crazy, but it makes the most sense.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on October 03, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
Remember though, Obama was a community organizer.   ;D

I live in Chicago. I know better.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 03, 2015, 03:47:09 PM
I live in Chicago. I know better.

I agree.  Obama couldn't organize a clusterf*ck.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: illuminati on October 03, 2015, 04:32:15 PM
I'll explain later. The U.S. has used plenty if false flag operations.














Please Do.
I am waiting.......
Then I will tell you The Truth.
 ;)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 03, 2015, 04:33:43 PM








When do you know if its a True Flag?




Please Do.
I am waiting.......
Then I will tell you The Truth.
 ;)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: hazbin on October 03, 2015, 06:11:16 PM
look up hegelian dialectic.   basically problem reaction solution.  they devised it in 1920 to allow them to further their agenda without forcing it on us.   
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 03, 2015, 06:22:50 PM
look up hegelian dialectic.   basically problem reaction solution.  they devised it in 1920 to allow them to further their agenda without forcing it on us.   
What agenda?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: hazbin on October 03, 2015, 06:27:50 PM
What agenda?

who knows
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 03, 2015, 06:28:29 PM
who knows

You claim there is one.  Where is your evidence?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 03, 2015, 06:29:53 PM
You claim there is one.  Where is your evidence?

DO NOT BE A DICK TO HAZBIN
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: hazbin on October 03, 2015, 06:30:04 PM
You claim there is one.  Where is your evidence?

if you have to ask, then you don't know
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 03, 2015, 06:31:54 PM
DO NOT BE A DICK TO HAZBIN
I'm not.  I am asking him a legitimate question.

I have no clue what he is talking about and would like to know why he thinks there is some grand scheme and what it may be.

I just don't understand the fascination with believing in things like this, without evidence.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 03, 2015, 06:32:39 PM
I'm not.  I am asking him a legitimate question.

I have no clue what he is talking about and would like to know why he thinks there is some grand scheme and what it may be.

I just don't understand the fascination with believing in things like this, without evidence.

ok I'll shut up  :(
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 03, 2015, 06:35:50 PM
ok I'll shut up  :(
I have the same thoughts on this as you do on this thread.

Believing in "false flags" and "conspiracies" do nothing to actually understand or solve anything, yet it is quite popular, even among people who may be reasonable on other topics.

I am fascinated by humans and their need to create these stories of "explanation".
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 03, 2015, 06:37:38 PM
Even the Sheriff in this recent shooting was a false flagger.  Now the shooting and violence occurred on his watch, in his town.  Yet, he still does not feel like a fool.  :-\
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2015, 06:40:49 PM
Shit ended with Tonkin.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 03, 2015, 06:40:49 PM
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 03, 2015, 06:41:14 PM
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 03, 2015, 06:42:19 PM
I have the same thoughts on this as you do on this thread.

Believing in "false flags" and "conspiracies" do nothing to actually understand or solve anything, yet it is quite popular, even among people who may be reasonable on other topics.

I am fascinated by humans and their need to create these stories of "explanation".

ya I dont get why people twist up these stories,....guess they need to add some zest to their lives
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 03, 2015, 06:47:09 PM
ya I dont get why people twist up these stories,....guess they need to add some zest to their lives
Here is some great insight.

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 03, 2015, 07:04:47 PM
I agree.  Obama couldn't organize a clusterf*ck.

President has nothing to do with these types of events. He says what he's told to say...If Trump or Clinton are elected President, do you honestly think they'll have any idea what the NSA, CIA, FBI or any dark government agency is doing? Not a chance. These people don't have any real power.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 03, 2015, 07:09:31 PM
Infowars jumped the shark years ago, but this is pretty wild

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2015, 07:21:43 PM
Infowars jumped the shark years ago

That's what they want you to believe.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Never1AShow on October 03, 2015, 07:33:35 PM
What agenda?

This is really my question too.  It used to be that the elites needed to keep the masses of workers in check because they needed them to do the work and provide manpower for wars.  These days the elites do not need the manpower like before.  Automation and advanced tech can do the same job with only 10 percent or less of the same people.  So what is the agenda for still keeping that other 90 percent around?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2015, 08:16:02 PM
This is really my question too.  It used to be that the elites needed to keep the masses of workers in check because they needed them to do the work and provide manpower for wars.  These days the elites do not need the manpower like before.  Automation and advanced tech can do the same job with only 10 percent or less of the same people.  So what is the agenda for still keeping that other 90 percent around?

Sure you'll come up with something.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Never1AShow on October 03, 2015, 09:07:28 PM
Sure you'll come up with something.

It seems the 1 percent could live even better with say only 1/2 a billion people on the planet.  Is a great purge coming?  This is why I don't buy any of those scifi movies like Elysium. 
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2015, 10:10:22 PM
It seems the 1 percent could live even better with say only 1/2 a billion people on the planet.  Is a great purge coming?  This is why I don't buy any of those scifi movies like Elysium. 

Yes, I'm anticipating a great purge. Those wily 1%ers, man.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: SquidVicious on October 03, 2015, 10:21:02 PM
To a conspiracy nut job, everything is a false flag until it happens in your backyard. For example, the sheriff in Umpqua has posted the Sandy Hoax video and asked people to think for themselves, indicating his support for the preposterous theories that none of those kids really died, the school wasn't even open, no one really attended there, and all of the fake parents of the dead kids and witnesses were all crisis actors. Now, he's got 9 or more shooting victims in his own backyard and the conspiracy loonies are already claiming that the eyewitnesses on the news are crisis actors and the same people who were witnesses at Sandy Hook. Imagine how mad that makes the sheriff, seeing the bodies and having people claim he's in on some grand conspiracy. Because loonies never go shooting up places. It's just make believe crisis actors hired by the government to support gun control. And of course the hundreds of EMS and EMT personnel who walk into Sandy Hook and other massacre sites and don't see a single dead body and spend hours pretending to be providing emergency services but somehow never utter a single word of this giant conspiracy to anyone. Makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 03, 2015, 10:37:36 PM
These delusional folks thinking defies reason. Innocent people lost their lives. Suggesting this did not happen is beyond cruel.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 03, 2015, 11:11:31 PM
To a conspiracy nut job, everything is a false flag until it happens in your backyard. For example, the sheriff in Umpqua has posted the Sandy Hoax video and asked people to think for themselves, indicating his support for the preposterous theories that none of those kids really died, the school wasn't even open, no one really attended there, and all of the fake parents of the dead kids and witnesses were all crisis actors. Now, he's got 9 or more shooting victims in his own backyard and the conspiracy loonies are already claiming that the eyewitnesses on the news are crisis actors and the same people who were witnesses at Sandy Hook. Imagine how mad that makes the sheriff, seeing the bodies and having people claim he's in on some grand conspiracy. Because loonies never go shooting up places. It's just make believe crisis actors hired by the government to support gun control. And of course the hundreds of EMS and EMT personnel who walk into Sandy Hook and other massacre sites and don't see a single dead body and spend hours pretending to be providing emergency services but somehow never utter a single word of this giant conspiracy to anyone. Makes perfect sense.

Fucker has no business in that position.

How can a fucking sheriff, knowing exactly how info is (and can be) verified, act like this nonsense is even possible? I hope these worthless CT pricks make his life hell.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: SquidVicious on October 03, 2015, 11:14:04 PM
Fucker has no business in that position.

How can a fucking sheriff, knowing exactly how info is (and can be) verified, act like this nonsense is even possible? I hope these worthless CT pricks make his life hell.
How dare you refer to the Newtown, CT victims as CT pricks!! Have you no mercy or compassion?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 04, 2015, 06:16:08 AM
The world is filled with all types of people.

Many are afraid of losing rights and becoming "enslaved" by the government, while failing to realize that they're actual slaves to the monetary debt they've occurred.


It goes much deeper than that.  Do you use and work for fiat dollars?  If the answer is YES, then guess what... you're already enslaved.  In fact you were enslaved when you parents first got you your social security number.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 04, 2015, 06:17:50 AM
It goes much deeper than that.  Do you use and work for fiat dollars?  If the answer is YES, then guess what... you're already enslaved.  In fact you were enslaved when you parents first got you your social security number.

This.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2015, 06:32:44 AM
How dare you refer to the Newtown, CT victims as CT pricks!! Have you no mercy or compassion?

Eh, fuck 'em.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Tapeworm on October 04, 2015, 07:10:53 AM
I don't even understand why people follow the news.

"Duh!  To keep abreast of current events!"

Why?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: thebrink on October 04, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
A government you can't trust
Run by pathological liars
Blinded by ideology
Will do anything to promote their cause
Always believing the end justifies the means
Acting in complete denial when caught in outright lies
And accepting no accountability or responsibility for their actions
While being completely devoid of any moral compass

And people start to question the timing and look of things that appear suspiciously perfect to promote the government's political agenda.

But.....lots and lots of crackpot tin foil hat looney tunes Wiggses out there too.

cmon now people like that don't exist. there are no bad people in the world.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 04, 2015, 09:12:30 AM
Donnys facebook accusation against josh was a falseflag operation.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 04, 2015, 11:05:12 AM
It goes much deeper than that.  Do you use and work for fiat dollars?  If the answer is YES, then guess what... you're already enslaved.  In fact you were enslaved when you parents first got you your social security number.
I think the Fiat 8V is one of the most beautiful sports cars ever built.  I doubt anyone here is working to buy this Fiat though.  Not too many of them around and they are very expensive.

Side note: Why would you determine your worth by how many Fiats you can purchase?  What the hell is that all about?  ???

(https://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_slider/public/import/articlesv2/images/_de/6637/Fiat_8V_Supersonic_01pop.jpg?itok=59H7HvsG)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Never1AShow on October 04, 2015, 12:00:10 PM
It goes much deeper than that.  Do you use and work for fiat dollars?  If the answer is YES, then guess what... you're already enslaved.  In fact you were enslaved when you parents first got you your social security number.

Yes, we are enslaved to be able to say whatever we want on the Internet 24/7/365, to enjoy delicious Taco Bell offerings for a 4th meal, to meet beautiful singles on Tinder or Milfs on Ashley Madison, to follow the true 5 percenters like DLB or Rich Piano, to do virtually whatever you want, whenever you want, quicker better and cheaper than ever before, to educate yourself for free on any topic on Youtube, and to give Rich Gaspari 100 million a year in revenue for fart powder.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
Yes, we are enslaved to be able to say whatever we want on the Internet 24/7/365, to enjoy delicious Taco Bell offerings for a 4th meal, to meet beautiful singles on Tinder or Milfs on Ashley Madison, to follow the true 5 percenters like DLB or Rich Piano, to do virtually whatever you want, whenever you want, quicker better and cheaper than ever before, to educate yourself for free on any topic on Youtube, and to give Rich Gaspari 100 million a year in revenue for fart powder.

Enslavement worthy of a negro spiritual.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 04, 2015, 12:42:58 PM
I think the Fiat 8V is one of the most beautiful sports cars ever built.  I doubt anyone here is working to buy this Fiat though.  Not too many of them around and they are very expensive.

Side note: Why would you determine your worth by how many Fiats you can purchase?  What the hell is that all about?  ???

(https://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_slider/public/import/articlesv2/images/_de/6637/Fiat_8V_Supersonic_01pop.jpg?itok=59H7HvsG)

looks like a fancier longer Kharman Ghia
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Parker on October 04, 2015, 01:42:59 PM
Yes, we are enslaved to be able to say whatever we want on the Internet 24/7/365, to enjoy delicious Taco Bell offerings for a 4th meal, to meet beautiful singles on Tinder or Milfs on Ashley Madison, to follow the true 5 percenters like DLB or Rich Piano, to do virtually whatever you want, whenever you want, quicker better and cheaper than ever before, to educate yourself for free on any topic on Youtube, and to give Rich Gaspari 100 million a year in revenue for fart powder.
Enslavement by distraction and entertainment. When shit hit the fan, the Roman Empire put on more gladiator shows to keep the public distracted to what was going on...hmmm.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 04, 2015, 02:05:23 PM
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Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Never1AShow on October 04, 2015, 04:19:37 PM
Enslavement by distraction and entertainment. When shit hit the fan, the Roman Empire put on more gladiator shows to keep the public distracted to what was going on...hmmm.

Nobody stops you from thinking or expressing whatever the hell you want.  Freedom of conscience is more absolute than ever.  You could probably stand on a street corner and yell FUCK all day long and no one would care or do anything.  Benjamin Franklin is rolling over in his grave with that turkey he wanted to make into the national symbol.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Marty Champions on October 04, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
Hardcore gun control is the agenda they want
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 04, 2015, 05:30:03 PM
Nobody stops you from thinking or expressing whatever the hell you want.  Freedom of conscience is more absolute than ever.  You could probably stand on a street corner and yell FUCK all day long and no one would care or do anything.  Benjamin Franklin is rolling over in his grave with that turkey he wanted to make into the national symbol.

Oh really?  Try saying something against a minority, gay or a transgender person.  The PC police/media would be on your ass in a heartbeat.  Critique the government and you are a potential terrorist now.  Open your eyes.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 04, 2015, 05:32:31 PM
Hardcore gun control is the agenda they want

Who be they?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: illuminati on October 04, 2015, 10:52:21 PM
Oh really?  Try saying something against a minority, gay or a transgender person.  The PC police/media would be on your ass in a heartbeat.  Critique the government and you are a potential terrorist now.  Open your eyes.














This x2.
Good Points.
Speak out of turn & you'll be vilified/ hounded
& or Banged up.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 04, 2015, 11:08:34 PM
I dont get these "false flags" in the States. So are people trying to say this is all an act? These people are or arent dead?  Seems a little ridiculous to me that this false flag shit can be pulled off by a whole shitload of people. Someone American explain this to me

False flags is just excuse for stupid people, when they can't comprehend things what has happen. They see something which doesn't fit in their tiny brains, so they start to yell "false flag false flag". Have anyone really seen a real false flag- operation? No. It is completely imaginary thing, just like any other foil hat theory. Just look what kind of people are talking about this subject? Mostly the foil hats, who are known by their stupidity.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Never1AShow on October 05, 2015, 06:41:58 AM
False flags is just excuse for stupid people, when they can't comprehend things what has happen. They see something which doesn't fit in their tiny brains, so they start to yell "false flag false flag". Have anyone really seen a real false flag- operation? No. It is completely imaginary thing, just like any other foil hat theory. Just look what kind of people are talking about this subject? Mostly the foil hats, who are known by their stupidity.

It always happens at the end of liberal administrations.  People come up with all types of craziness conspiracies because they've had to deal with 6-7 years of crazy liberal policies and it pushes them over the edge.  The whole Randy Weaver/Waco thing back during Clinton.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Marty Champions on October 05, 2015, 07:36:03 PM
Who be they?
goverment obviously
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 05, 2015, 10:38:17 PM
goverment obviously

Is it like them against us? You're either in or your out? I don't buy that.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 05, 2015, 10:44:54 PM
Is it like them against us? You're either in or your out? I don't buy that.

hows the 3 time zones between us?


moron


read a map much?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: SF1900 on October 05, 2015, 10:58:07 PM
If Sandy Hook was a false flag, where did all the children go that supposedly passed away? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 05, 2015, 11:18:33 PM
If Sandy Hook was a false flag, where did all the children go that supposedly passed away? ??? ??? ??? ???

Commercials, sitcoms, stage productions, etc. Still chasing the dream like all the other wannabe actors out there, I suppose.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 05, 2015, 11:49:28 PM
If Sandy Hook was a false flag, where did all the children go that supposedly passed away? ??? ??? ??? ???
Did you know these children and their parents personally? How do you know if they existed with those names and went to the school. I for one have never been to Sandy Hook and have to believe what the stupid box tells me... or not. And so does 99.9999% of the population. Most people have never been to Sandy Hook.

So I saw a few videos of parents that don't appear to mourn their children's deaths. Robby Parker for example looked like he was out for a golf outing with his buddies and then worked himself up stage actor style into character - on camera! HAHA! That is a red flag for me. But believe whatever you want.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 05, 2015, 11:54:30 PM
Is it like them against us? You're either in or your out? I don't buy that.
Wow, ok they really care about you. Life for them is not about survival of the fittest.

I bet if you lived 1000 years ago you would have sang a different tune regarding the leaders and elites of your society. You would have still had enough common sense to realize it is them against you. But you have been brainwashed to naively believe we're all in it together with the elites and leaders and they care about you.

WTF??? You need to wake up old guy. 99% of the population in China would look at you with disgust and laugh at you for being so gullible. China's population is much more in sync with the traditional survival laws of nature than Westerners it would seem.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 12:02:49 AM
This is really my question too.  It used to be that the elites needed to keep the masses of workers in check because they needed them to do the work and provide manpower for wars.  These days the elites do not need the manpower like before.  Automation and advanced tech can do the same job with only 10 percent or less of the same people.  So what is the agenda for still keeping that other 90 percent around?
Well you don't know the end game yet. Another fabricated World War 3 could be lurking around the corner. And let's face it, most recent wars are fabricated and could have been avoided. They are the ultimate false flags.

Example: Conspiracy Fact
You bombed our ship so now we are going to send soldiers to Vietnam. (We know it is a lie, they did not bomb our ship but we have to keep repeating this to the public so they can get behind our war plans for going to Vietnam.)

Example: Conspiracy Theory
You 19 bastards flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon and crashed one in a field. (We know it is a lie, they did not fly those remote controlled planes but we will keep repeating this to the public so they can get behind our war plans for going to Iraq and Afghanistan, and eventually a 100 year war lasting generations)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 06, 2015, 12:30:18 AM
Wow, ok they really care about you. Life for them is not about survival of the fittest.

I bet if you lived 1000 years ago you would have sang a different tune regarding the leaders and elites of your society. You would have still had enough common sense to realize it is them against you. But you have been brainwashed to naively believe we're all in it together with the elites and leaders and they care about you.

WTF??? You need to wake up old guy. 99% of the population in China would look at you with disgust and laugh at you for being so gullible. China's population is much more in sync with the traditional survival laws of nature than Westerners it would seem.
China?
They are forced into only having one child per family and they accept that.
Talk about brainwashed.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: 10pints on October 06, 2015, 12:39:58 AM
False flags is just excuse for stupid people, when they can't comprehend things what has happen. They see something which doesn't fit in their tiny brains, so they start to yell "false flag false flag". Have anyone really seen a real false flag- operation? No. It is completely imaginary thing, just like any other foil hat theory. Just look what kind of people are talking about this subject? Mostly the foil hats, who are known by their stupidity.

As usual, Ropo is slaying the CT's crackpot world views. The irony of the tin foilers is that they accuse people, who don't believe in conspiracy theories, of believing anything, yet it is they who are doing exactly that.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 06, 2015, 03:24:41 AM
Well you don't know the end game yet. Another fabricated World War 3 could be lurking around the corner. And let's face it, most recent wars are fabricated and could have been avoided. They are the ultimate false flags.

Example: Conspiracy Fact
You bombed our ship so now we are going to send soldiers to Vietnam. (We know it is a lie, they did not bomb our ship but we have to keep repeating this to the public so they can get behind our war plans for going to Vietnam.)

Example: Conspiracy Theory
You 19 bastards flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon and crashed one in a field. (We know it is a lie, they did not fly those remote controlled planes but we will keep repeating this to the public so they can get behind our war plans for going to Iraq and Afghanistan, and eventually a 100 year war lasting generations)

As they have recently prove by study, your kind of people doesn't recognize lie even if it literally bite them in the ass. So how you can talk about lies, same time knowing that there is not even single soul on this planet, who has been able to show even one real explosion from the videos taken from 9/11 attack? And if there isn't any explosions, there isn't any controlled demolition, and if there isn't controlled demolition, where is your conspiracy? There isn't any. So why don't you try to prove those claims with the real evidence? Or would it be better to say: why there isn't even one foil hat who has start this kind of conversation by showing the evidence which prove there has been a conspiracy? Honestly, is that too much to ask?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 06, 2015, 03:41:40 AM
As usual, Ropo is slaying the CT's crackpot world views. The irony of the tin foilers is that they accuse people, who don't believe in conspiracy theories, of believing anything, yet it is they who are doing exactly that.

As usual, Ropo is only saying that it is ridiculously stupid thing to believe some silly story BEFORE it has been proved without any doubt by real life evidence. That is all there is to learn, because if we look about the foil hat "evidences" from for example Sandy Hook false flag operation, what we will see? Well, there was a picture of the police holding a single barrel shotgun at the trunk of the car, and the typical foil hat question: "How Lanza was able to hide his AR-15 in his trunk while he was dead? " Then there were tons of pictures about the faces of the people of Sandy Hook, and their "doubles" picked up by blind idiots, claiming that they were same person. First question which rises on my mind is this: How stupid you really has to be to believe bullshit like that? Anyone with even a half of the brains would see by his heel that the shotgun isn't AR-15, and that those faces are not from same person  ;D
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 07:51:34 AM
Wow, ok they really care about you. Life for them is not about survival of the fittest.

I bet if you lived 1000 years ago you would have sang a different tune regarding the leaders and elites of your society. You would have still had enough common sense to realize it is them against you. But you have been brainwashed to naively believe we're all in it together with the elites and leaders and they care about you.

WTF??? You need to wake up old guy. 99% of the population in China would look at you with disgust and laugh at you for being so gullible. China's population is much more in sync with the traditional survival laws of nature than Westerners it would seem.

Interesting word choice.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Marty Champions on October 06, 2015, 07:55:32 AM
Is it like them against us? You're either in or your out? I don't buy that.
were less of a threat without guns , knowledge of health, technology, wealth ect
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2015, 08:05:32 AM
hows the 3 time zones between us?


moron


read a map much?

Regina is so close, I should visit sometime.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Donny on October 06, 2015, 08:10:15 AM
hows the 3 time zones between us?


moron


read a map much?
you know i love Jay´s calm intelligent style.. owned this Phycho big style.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2015, 08:13:10 AM
Wow, ok they really care about you. Life for them is not about survival of the fittest.

I bet if you lived 1000 years ago you would have sang a different tune regarding the leaders and elites of your society. You would have still had enough common sense to realize it is them against you. But you have been brainwashed to naively believe we're all in it together with the elites and leaders and they care about you.

WTF??? You need to wake up old guy. 99% of the population in China would look at you with disgust and laugh at you for being so gullible. China's population is much more in sync with the traditional survival laws of nature than Westerners it would seem.

You should move to China. It seems like a country you'd like.

How do you know I am not one of "them"?

Well, I don't live a thousand years ago and neither do you. A few things have changed since then.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 09:01:46 AM
The False Flag concept is much easier to understand if you realize there are some people that have mental illnesses that don't always present in the classic sense and they can seem perfectly normal in other aspects of their lives yet be fruit cake nuts. Once you realize that, and it gets easier the more you listen to late night radio where sincere adults with college educations talk about lizard people aliens, the false flag concept gets easier to understand.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 09:04:11 AM
Did you know these children and their parents personally? How do you know if they existed with those names and went to the school. I for one have never been to Sandy Hook and have to believe what the stupid box tells me... or not. And so does 99.9999% of the population. Most people have never been to Sandy Hook.

So I saw a few videos of parents that don't appear to mourn their children's deaths. Robby Parker for example looked like he was out for a golf outing with his buddies and then worked himself up stage actor style into character - on camera! HAHA! That is a red flag for me. But believe whatever you want.

I have a friend I was stationed with in the military back in 1986 who is a cop there. He responded to the school that day and there is no doubt in my mind that it happened. He later told me that the people claiming it was a hoax have no idea how much that hurts the families of the victims.. I hadn't thought about that before then.   
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 06, 2015, 09:21:40 AM
Regina is so close, I should visit sometime.

oh fuck please do

moron
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 06, 2015, 09:23:44 AM
you know i love Jay´s calm intelligent style.. owned this Phycho big style.

being that you use the spell checker 100% of the time

please tell us how "Jay is" or Jay's fits in this sentence, and then tell us what "Phyco" means and also how capitalizing it applies to its usage?

thank you in advance
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: SquidVicious on October 06, 2015, 09:24:41 AM
I have a friend I was stationed with in the military back in 1986 who is a cop there. He responded to the school that day and there is no doubt in my mind that it happened. He later told me that the people claiming it was a hoax have no idea how much that hurts the families of the victims.. I hadn't thought about that before then.   
Really? You had never even once thought to yourself how you would feel if your son or daughter was murdered and you had to bury them and a million online jokers and clowns and knuckleheads were taunting you, calling your office, leaving messages on your voicemail and sending emails that your son or daughter never existed, that you're nothing but a crisis actor hired by the government or that your child is still alive and to prove it look at this photo of this kid halfway across the country who slightly resembles your kid in that they both have a crew cut, dark brown hair and glasses?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 09:50:18 AM
China?
They are forced into only having one child per family and they accept that.
Talk about brainwashed.
Yet they still know the score and know it's the elites against them. What better way to illustrate that point with the 1 child policy - lol! Chinese are much more street savvy then Westerners. They know the score with their politicians. They know corruption is part of the game.

And btw, the 1 child policy has been relaxed in 2013. Some couples can have 2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy#Relaxation_of_policy

And the reality is China's population was 1.357 billion in 2013, about 4.5 times the US population. I think it was a smart move really to try and reduce that number. If only all the other brown countries were smart enough to do the same thing. Nothing good will come out of 2 billion Africans running around on the planet. In fact, disaster will be waiting. Fact!
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 10:10:11 AM
As they have recently prove by study, your kind of people doesn't recognize lie even if it literally bite them in the ass. So how you can talk about lies, same time knowing that there is not even single soul on this planet, who has been able to show even one real explosion from the videos taken from 9/11 attack? And if there isn't any explosions, there isn't any controlled demolition, and if there isn't controlled demolition, where is your conspiracy? There isn't any. So why don't you try to prove those claims with the real evidence? Or would it be better to say: why there isn't even one foil hat who has start this kind of conversation by showing the evidence which prove there has been a conspiracy? Honestly, is that too much to ask?
Post a link to this study.

What you are posting is purely subjective. Why are you better at recognizing a lie than someone questioning "his" story by the victors? You can barely string two sentences together properly. Your responses are loaded with emotion, insults, subjectivity and signs of panic. You hardly ever post evidence yourself to back up your claims. You usually claim: "This has been proven to be a lie." or "Please post real evidence that this is a Conspiracy" etc. You really are not able to debate any of these subjects. It's above your intellect I believe.

However, I will try ... lol!

Regarding the WTC 7 free fall collapse, NIST prepared a computer model attempting to explain why it collapsed at free fall. In case you don't know, a free fall collapse is only possible if all columns at the base of the building failed at the same time. This typically happens when buildings are demolished with explosives.

Engineers have requested that the model's data be released by NIST. This is the response they received:

http://cryptome.org/nist070709.pdf (http://cryptome.org/nist070709.pdf)

http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/927-nists-wtc-7-reports-filled-with-fantasy-fiction-and-fraud-intro (http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/927-nists-wtc-7-reports-filled-with-fantasy-fiction-and-fraud-intro)

Indeed, the fall of World Trade Center Building 7 is the third of the three only known "global collapses" of high-rise, steel-framed buildings ever recorded, and all three incredibly took place in one day: September 11, 2001.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 10:19:57 AM
The False Flag concept is much easier to understand if you realize there are some people that have mental illnesses that don't always present in the classic sense and they can seem perfectly normal in other aspects of their lives yet be fruit cake nuts. Once you realize that, and it gets easier the more you listen to late night radio where sincere adults with college educations talk about lizard people aliens, the false flag concept gets easier to understand.
False Flags do exist - I hope you realize this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

42 ADMITTED False Flag Attacks
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/41-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/41-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html)

The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html
(http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/iran-front-label.gif)

(http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/quote.gif)
(http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/shah.jpg)

The Central Intelligence Agency's secret history of its covert operation to overthrow Iran's government in 1953 offers an inside look at how the agency stumbled into success, despite a series of mishaps that derailed its original plans.

Written in 1954 by one of the coup's chief planners, the history details how United States and British officials plotted the military coup that returned the shah of Iran to power and toppled Iran's elected prime minister, an ardent nationalist.

The document shows that:

Britain, fearful of Iran's plans to nationalize its oil industry, came up with the idea for the coup in 1952 and pressed the United States to mount a joint operation to remove the prime minister.
The C.I.A. and S.I.S., the British intelligence service, handpicked Gen. Fazlollah Zahedi to succeed Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh and covertly funneled $5 million to General Zahedi's regime two days after the coup prevailed.

Iranians working for the C.I.A. and posing as Communists harassed religious leaders and staged the bombing of one cleric's home in a campaign to turn the country's Islamic religious community against Mossadegh's government.

The shah's cowardice nearly killed the C.I.A. operation. Fearful of risking his throne, the Shah repeatedly refused to sign C.I.A.-written royal decrees to change the government. The agency arranged for the shah's twin sister, Princess Ashraf Pahlevi, and Gen. H. Norman Schwarzkopf, the father of the Desert Storm commander, to act as intermediaries to try to keep him from wilting under pressure. He still fled the country just before the coup succeeded.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
I have a friend I was stationed with in the military back in 1986 who is a cop there. He responded to the school that day and there is no doubt in my mind that it happened. He later told me that the people claiming it was a hoax have no idea how much that hurts the families of the victims.. I hadn't thought about that before then.   
Did he see any bodies? This is a "my friend" story. I'll take that with a grain of salt. Unless you saw this shit yourself, you did not see anything.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 10:27:39 AM
The False Flag concept is much easier to understand if you realize there are some people that have mental illnesses that don't always present in the classic sense and they can seem perfectly normal in other aspects of their lives yet be fruit cake nuts. Once you realize that, and it gets easier the more you listen to late night radio where sincere adults with college educations talk about lizard people aliens, the false flag concept gets easier to understand.
Is being a sheep also a mental illness? One wonders. Who's got the illness, those who question authority and propaganda, or the compliant ones who believe everything they're told?

Study proves 95% of people really are sheeple

http://www.naturalnews.com/034676_sheeple_study_psychology.html# (http://www.naturalnews.com/034676_sheeple_study_psychology.html#)

(NaturalNews) Scientists at the University of Leeds have conducted research that proves the tendency many have to act like sheep, unwittingly following crowd as if they didn't possess a reasoning mind. While this tendency may have its uses in some situations, such as planning pedestrian flow in busy areas, it doesn't inspire a ton of hope for humankind.

The study showed that it takes a minority of just five percent to influence a crowd's direction - and that the other 95 percent follow without even realizing what is going on.

Professor Krause, with PhD student John Dyer, conducted a series of experiments in which groups of volunteers walked randomly around a large hall. Within the group, a few received instructions regarding where to walk. Participants were not allowed to communicate with one or intentionally influence anyone.

The findings in all cases revealed that the informed individuals were followed by the others in the crowd, forming a self-organizing, snake-like structure (or flock of sheep, take your pick).

"We've all been in situations where we got swept along by a crowd," said Professor Krause. "But what's interesting about this research is that our participants ended up making a consensus decision despite the fact that they weren't allowed to talk or gesture to one another. In most cases the participants didn't realize they were being led by others at all."

Scary. Are we such sheeple that we allow a few "informed" people to lead us around without even knowing what's happening? Sadly, it makes sense. How many fall for scams of all kinds because of friends or "informed" sources, from pyramid schemes to religious hoaxes and political coverups. We seem to believe just about anything, or blindly tolerate it as long as the message is delivered with enough social credibility.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034676_sheeple_study_psychology.html#ixzz3noGpLeYd
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 10:31:23 AM
As usual, Ropo is slaying the CT's crackpot world views. The irony of the tin foilers is that they accuse people, who don't believe in conspiracy theories, of believing anything, yet it is they who are doing exactly that.
HAHA. Ropo is way out of his league. His posts are laden with emotion, temper tantrums, insults etc. He is hardly slaying anything. I have yet to see an intelligent post by him where he refutes any questions asked.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: 10pints on October 06, 2015, 10:32:11 AM
Why don't you take these bullshit walls of text and post it in some crackpot forum. That way, you, and your retarded kin, can have a CT circle jerk without bothering the rest of us here at GB.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 10:34:32 AM
Why don't you take these bullshit walls of text and post it in some crackpot forum. That way, you, and your retarded kin, can have a CT circle jerk without bothering the rest of us here at GB.
See, that's a perfect example. You are really slaying a lot of CT theories with a post like that. Hahaha. You're way out of your league, and emotional like a bitch. Meltdown...

(https://mutantacademyhartford.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/meltdown.jpg)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 12:04:09 PM
Did he see any bodies? This is a "my friend" story. I'll take that with a grain of salt. Unless you saw this shit yourself, you did not see anything.

What difference would it make if he did? Like you'd accept that as evidence. Like evidence matters.

Perhaps you should visit the school for yourself, ask around. Assuming the school exists and there really is a Newton.

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: 10pints on October 06, 2015, 12:24:13 PM
See, that's a perfect example. You are really slaying a lot of CT theories with a post like that. Hahaha. You're way out of your league, and emotional like a bitch. Meltdown...

(https://mutantacademyhartford.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/meltdown.jpg)

It is clear you do not know what constitutes emotion, as none whatsoever was displayed in my previous post. As to me attempting to slay CTs, I would not waste my time debating with such a cretinous individual as you. I'd wish you good luck, but you wouldn't know what to do with it.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 12:56:01 PM
Did he see any bodies? This is a "my friend" story. I'll take that with a grain of salt. Unless you saw this shit yourself, you did not see anything.

I didn't see Pompeii covered in lava. I can't say I witnessed WW2 first hand. That doesn't make that they happened any less likely based on the evidence I have to make a conclusion. I would say that for me, knowing this person, the intricate conspiracy and huge blow back a hoax school shooting would have, I can reasonably conclude it happened.     
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 06, 2015, 01:07:58 PM
See, that's a perfect example. You are really slaying a lot of CT theories with a post like that. Hahaha. You're way out of your league, and emotional like a bitch. Meltdown...

(https://mutantacademyhartford.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/meltdown.jpg)

actually
being that you post massive long posts wouldnt that make you emotional and melting down?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: forillagorilla on October 06, 2015, 01:10:18 PM
I didn't see Pompeii covered in lava. I can't say I witnessed WW2 first hand. That doesn't make that they happened any less likely based on the evidence I have to make a conclusion. I would say that for me, knowing this person, the intricate conspiracy and huge blow back a hoax school shooting would have, I can reasonably conclude it happened.     

That's because Pompeii was a false flag. So was the Revolutionary War - and Superbowl 11
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 06, 2015, 01:13:58 PM
That's because Pompeii was a false flag. So was the Revolutionary War - and Superbowl 11

stay out of threads I start Captain Phony Quantico Millionaire Businessman Supermodel Wife

arent there 7 ninjas for you to disarm somewhere or some quantum theory of physics for you to solve?
oh ya, I forgot, its my fault, and you are here to tell me I can accomplish it to

ahahhahaahahahah another anonymous fairy
didnt you say you were leaving this site? Do us all a favor and fuck off
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: forillagorilla on October 06, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
stay out of threads I start Captain Phony Quantico Millionaire Businessman Supermodel Wife

arent there 7 ninjas for you to disarm somewhere or some quantum theory of physics for you to solve?
oh ya, I forgot, its my fault, and you are here to tell me I can accomplish it to

ahahhahaahahahah another anonymous fairy
didnt you say you were leaving this site? Do us all a favor and fuck off

shhhh - take another pill head case..

The fact that its hard for you to believe that I was an officer in the Corps - and have a successful business with a beautiful wife - says tons about you. I logged on taking a break and sure nuff the bum is here. Never encountered a ninja and not sure I am qualified to solve quantum physics.

BUT - no matter how long I am offline - the head case will be here. Arent you plotting some gay ass "surprise" for January 1st?

Hey man - its cool. This is all you have and I understand that. If you had been a good little bum and kept your mouth shut I would have never engaged you. You search me out???  That's pretty pathetic bud - but I do need to get some work done and cant waste any more time. I am sure I will check back in and get a kick out of the plethora (means a lot) of replies that you send me. Its still early in the month so the money that the rest of us provide shouldn't have run out yet - but stop wasting it on tee shirts and it will last longer.

BUT - I was just picking about taking another pill. I have a feeling that you are on some heavy shit and the truth is that I am just fucking with you and wouldn't want you to OD. Just relax and breathe.. Life is too freaking good for all the nonsense. You seem to nut out a lot over really basic shit. You have to know this place is NOT REAL.

take it easy man - See you later  ;D
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 06, 2015, 01:30:32 PM
shhhh - take another pill head case..

The fact that its hard for you to believe that I was an officer in the Corps - and have a successful business with a beautiful wife - says tons about you. I logged on taking a break and sure nuff the bum is here. Never encountered a ninja and not sure I am qualified to solve quantum physics.

BUT - no matter how long I am offline - the head case will be here. Arent you plotting some gay ass "surprise" for January 1st?

Hey man - its cool. This is all you have and I understand that. If you had been a good little bum and kept your mouth shut I would have never engaged you. You search me out???  That's pretty pathetic bud - but I do need to get some work done and cant waste any more time. I am sure I will check back in and get a kick out of the plethora (means a lot) of replies that you send me. Its still early in the month so the money that the rest of us provide shouldn't have run out yet - but stop wasting it on tee shirts and it will last longer.

BUT - I was just picking about taking another pill. I have a feeling that you are on some heavy shit and the truth is that I am just fucking with you and wouldn't want you to OD. Just relax and breathe.. Life is too freaking good for all the nonsense. You seem to nut out a lot over really basic shit. You have to know this place is NOT REAL.

take it easy man - See you later  ;D

a. Telling a person who takes pills to take a pill is about as far from an insult as you will get. I take one pill a day,..its called paxil.
b. you said you were leaving forever yet here you are
c. Its beyond obvious you lie about your life, but thats ok because most of getbig does. I just happen to be one of the few who is 100% honest.

and lol at searching you -- fucking moron --you replied in my thread, kinda hard for me to avoid it. Wow, genius
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2015, 01:45:22 PM
being that you use the spell checker 100% of the time

please tell us how "Jay is" or Jay's fits in this sentence, and then tell us what "Phyco" means and also how capitalizing it applies to its usage?

thank you in advance

Sigmund Freud’s method

Socrates’s life
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Set It Up on October 06, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
Sigmund Freud’s method

Socrates’s life

did I ask you? No. Yet you feel the need to stick your stupid old bald head in my threads. When are you planning to come across "3 time zones" to Regina so I can smash your fucking teeth in with your own cane?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2015, 01:51:51 PM
did I ask you? No. Yet you feel the need to stick your stupid old bald head in my threads. When are you planning to come across "3 time zones" to Regina so I can smash your fucking teeth in with your own cane?

Donny is a friend.

That's not a very encouraging invitation for me to come to Regina.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
The False Flag concept is much easier to understand if you realize there are some people that have mental illnesses that don't always present in the classic sense and they can seem perfectly normal in other aspects of their lives yet be fruit cake nuts. Once you realize that, and it gets easier the more you listen to late night radio where sincere adults with college educations talk about lizard people aliens, the false flag concept gets easier to understand.

Is the majority of the country(probably 95+%) who believe in the "Blue Wall(blue shield) of Silence Conspiracy" all mentally ill?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence




 
 

 

 

   
 
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 02:16:52 PM


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence


Blue wall of silence

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The blue wall of silence,[1] also blue code[2] and blue shield,[3] are terms used in the United States to denote the unwritten rule that exists among police officers not to report on a colleague's errors, misconducts, or crimes. If questioned about an incident of misconduct involving another officer (e.g. during the course of an official inquiry), while following the code, the officer being questioned would claim ignorance of another officer's wrongdoing.
Contents  [hide]
1 Police corruption
2 Laws
3 Cases
4 History
5 Police culture
6 Whistleblowing
7 Levels of crime
8 Exposing the code
9 See also
10 References
Police corruption[edit]

Main article: Police corruption
The code is considered to be police corruption and misconduct. Any officers who engaged in discriminatory arrests, physical or verbal harassment, and selective enforcement of the law are considered to be corrupt. Many officers who follow the code may participate in some of these acts during their career for personal matters or in order to protect or support fellow officers.[4] All of these are considered illegal offenses and are grounds for suspension or immediate dismissal. Officers who follow the code are unable to report fellow officers who participate in corruption due to the unwritten laws of their "police family."

Police perjury or "testilying" (in United States police slang) is when an officer gives false testimony in court. Officers who do not lie in court may sometimes be threatened and ostracized by fellow police officers. In 1992, the Commission to Investigate Allegations of Police Corruption (also known as the Mollen Commission) undertook a two-year investigation on perjury in law enforcement. They discovered that some officers falsified documents such as arrest reports, warrants and evidence for an illegal arrest or search. Some police officers also fabricated stories to a jury. The Commission found that the officers were not lying for greed but because they believed that they were imprisoning people who deserved it. Many prosecutors allowed police perjury to occur, as well.[1][5]
Laws[edit]

Many police departments have their own code of conduct. They train new recruits and investigate police officers if they have a complaint from a civilian or a criminal. There are also some state laws put in place to help protect civilians and criminals from corrupted officers. If the officer is found guilty, officers can be sued by the victim for damage caused by police brutality, false arrest and imprisonment, malicious prosecution, and wrongful death.[4]

Federal laws strongly prohibit officer misconduct, including officers who follow the code by "testilying" or neglecting to report any officer who is participating in corruption. If an officer is in violation of any of the officer misconduct federal laws, only the federal government can issue a suit. The police department is only responsible for preventing corruption among officers. If an officer is convicted, they may be forced to pay high fines or be imprisoned. To be convicted, the plaintiffs must prove that the officer was following the code or participating in negligence and unlawful conduct. It is often hard to convict an officer of following the code or other forms of corruption because officers are protected by defense of immunity, which is an exemption from penalties and burdens that the law generally places on private citizens.[4]

"U.S. Supreme Court decisions have continually asserted the general rule that officers must be given the benefit of the doubt that they acted lawfully in carrying out their day-to-day duties, a position reasserted in Saucier v. Katz, 533 U.S. 194, 121 S. Ct. 2151, 150 L. Ed. 2d 272 (2001)."[4]
Cases[edit]

In 1970, New York City organized the Knapp Commission to hold hearings on the extent of corruption in the city's police department. Police officer Frank Serpico's startling testimony against fellow officers not only revealed systemic corruption but highlighted a longstanding obstacle to investigating these abuses: the fraternal understanding among police officers known variously as "the Code of Silence" and "the Blue Curtain" under which officers regard testimony against a fellow officer as betrayal.[4]

In 1991, the Christopher Commission was formed in Los Angeles in response to the Rodney King in March of that year by four members of the Los Angeles Police Department. In 1992, the Mollen Commission, commissioned to investigate reports of police corruption in New York City, noted that "The pervasiveness of the code of silence is itself alarming."[6] One New York City police officer said, "If a cop decided to tell on me, his career's ruined....He's going to be labeled as a rat."[6] The following year saw the founding of the Civilian Complaint Review Board, an all-civilian board tasked with investigating civil complaints about alleged misconduct on the part of the New York City Police Department.

After that the International Association of Chiefs of Police made a code of police conduct publication and rigorously trained police officers. In 1991 Rodney King was brutally beaten by multiple police officers of the Los Angeles Police Department. The officers involved were expected to have been following the "blue code". They claimed that the beating was lawful, but it was not until a videotape of the incident was released when it was confirmed that the officers had collectively fabricated their stories.

In the later 1990s, the FBI arrested 42 officers from five law enforcement agencies in 1998 on charges of conspiracy to distribute cocaine. In a 1998 report to U.S. Congressman Charles B. Rangel, the federal General Accounting Office (GAO) found evidence of growing police involvement in drug sales, theft of drugs and money from drug dealers, and perjured testimony about illegal searches.[4]
History[edit]

The code and police corruption stems from the mid-to-late nineteenth century. The Pinkerton National Detective Agency were known for using police officers to violently end strikes. Many members of the Ku Klux Klan were police officers who protected each other when conducting racist acts. This later gave rise to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which gave new protections to the victims who had long suffered discriminatory policing.[4]

"Additionally, a string of landmark Supreme Court decisions during the era gave new force both to individual privacy rights as well as to curbs upon Police Power: highly influential cases resulted in the strengthening of Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable Search and Seizure, evidentiary rules forbidding the use at trial of evidence tainted by unconstitutional police actions, and the establishment of the so-called Miranda Warning requiring officers to advise detained suspects of their constitutional rights."[4]
This criminalized officers who did not have the necessary paperwork to conduct a search or who were involved in falsifying documents or committing perjury.

Police culture[edit]

Police culture or “cop culture," as it is sometimes called by police officers, has resulted in a barrier against stopping corrupt officers. Police culture involves a set of values and rules that have evolved through the experiences of officers and which are affected by the environment in which they work. From the beginning of their career at their academies, police are brought into this “cop culture."
While learning jobs and duties, recruits will also learn the values needed to make it to a high rank in their organization. Some words used to describe these values are as follows: a sense of mission, action, cynicism, pessimism, machismo, suspicion, conservatism, isolation and solidarity. The unique demands that are placed on police officers, such as the threat of danger, as well as scrutiny by the public, generate a tightly woven environment conducive to the development of feelings of loyalty.[7]

These values are claimed to lead to the code; isolation and solidarity leading to police officers sticking to their own kind, producing an us-against-them mentality. The us-against-them mentality that can result leads to officers backing each other up and staying loyal to one another; in some situations it leads to not “ratting” on fellow officers.[8]

A Los Angeles Times report about the "Facebook manifesto" of Christopher Dorner, who was killed during a police manhunt after he went on a several day shooting spree in February 2013 in Southern California, observes: "When he arrived at the LAPD, he wrote, he found it a nest of racists. In the Police Academy, he complained about another recruit’s use of a racial slur and was shunned. On patrol with the LAPD, he complained that his training officer had kicked a mentally ill man, and in response the department conspired to destroy him. He had dared, he said, to violate the Code of Silence.[9]

Whistleblowing[edit]
Whistleblowing (police officers reporting other officers' misconduct) is not common. The low number of officers coming forward may have to do with the understanding that things happen in the heat of the moment that some officers would rather keep personal. Another reason officers may hesitate to go against the blue code may be that challenging the blue code would mean challenging long-standing traditions and feelings of brotherhood within the institution. The fear of consequences may play a large role as well. These consequences can include being shunned, losing friends, and losing back-up, as well as receiving physical threats or having one's own misconduct exposed.

There are also forces that work against the code and promote whistleblowing. Many police officers do join the police force because they want to uphold the law; the blue code goes against this ideal. Some officers inform on fellow officers' misconduct, for less noble motives, such as to retaliate for mistreatment by fellow officers, to seek administrative recognition, or to prove loyalty to the department. Additionally, some officers are recruited by their administration to inform. If it is in an officer's job description to find misconduct by other officers, he or she is more likely to go against the blue code. Officers who go against the blue code may have a deal to avoid being fired or to receive immunity from prosecution. Some officers have also been known to break the code to sell a story to the media.[10]

Levels of crime[edit]
Police officers are more likely to cover up certain kinds of errors by colleagues. One study showed that excessive use of force was the crime most commonly shielded by the code.[2] Two studies suggest that some police feel that the code is applicable in cases of “illegal brutality or bending of the rules in order to protect colleagues from criminal proceedings," but not those of illegal actions with an “acquisitive motive."[11]
Cases such as the Rampart scandal and many other police corruption cases demonstrate that blue code culture can extend to cover-ups of other levels of crime, acquisitive or not. The code has been called "America's Most Successful Stop Snitchin' Campaign," referring to cases where police covered up the misdeeds of fellow officers and where whistleblowers were harassed, professionally sanctioned, or forced into retirement.[12]

Exposing the code[edit]
One method of preventing the code from penetrating the police force is exposure. Many states have taken measures in police academies to promote the exposure of the blue code. In most cities, before being admitted into the academy one must pass a criminal background check. Through additional background checks, polygraph testing, and psychological evaluations, certain departments are better able to select individuals who are less likely to condone wrongdoing. In these departments, police are exposed to a basic training curriculum that instructs on ethical behavior; this instruction is reinforced in seminars and classes annually in some cases.[12]

Several campaigns against the blue code or for making the blue code more visible in the public eye have taken place in the United States. One of the first of these campaigns was the Knapp Commission in New York (officially known as the Commission to Investigate Alleged Police Corruption) which was headed by Mayor John V. Lindsay in 1970. Over 20 years after the Knapp Commission the Mollen Commission was established in 1992 by New York City Mayor David Dinkins to investigate the nature and extent of corruption in the New York City Police Department NYPD, and to recommend changes to improve these procedures.[7] These and other investigations have revealed details of the inner workings of the NYPD
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 02:16:57 PM
No one's reading that long-ass, lazy copy/paste shit.

Is the majority of the country(probably 95+%) who believe in the "Blue Wall(blue shield) of Silence Conspiracy" all mentally ill

What about the 80% or so that believe in an invisible, thought-reading sky magician? You really wanna use popular consensus as a gauge for rationality?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 02:21:03 PM
No one's reading that long-ass, lazy copy/paste shit.

It's wiki dummy...Do you believe that the American police have a Blue Wall(blue shield) of Silence Conspiracy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 02:23:49 PM
Do you believe that the American police have a Blue Wall(blue shield) of Silence Conspiracy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence

Don't even know what that means, and I'm certainly not reading all that nonsense to find out.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 02:25:15 PM
It's wiki dummy...

Wiki makes it less long, less lazy?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 02:30:41 PM
Hitler's Gestapo(secrete police) started out as a conspiracy...Millions of Jews didn't believe that they existed...Even when close family members were telling them that they did and what they were doing. So many Jews never left Germany because they just refused to believe in such things(Conspiracy theorist they would call them)...I wonder how many Jewish lives would have been saved if they believed early on what Hilter was up to? Ropo yells at the top of his lungs just how "mentally ill" conspiracy theorists are. If Ropo lived in Germany during the early years of WW2, how many Jews would have died because they listened to him and he just didn't have enough "evidence" that Hilter was doing such things?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 02:33:52 PM
Don't even know what that means, and I'm certainly not reading all that nonsense to find out.

Wow! So its nonsense that the American police have a code of silence? What a fucking phony you are...
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 02:35:56 PM
Wikipedia.. nice
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 02:37:59 PM
Wow! So its nonsense that the American police have a code of silence? What a fucking phony you are...

Probably shock you that the vast majority of complaints against officers originate from within the department here..
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Parker on October 06, 2015, 02:38:19 PM
This whole thread is a false flag. To get us talking about "false flags", so when something happens, it can be used as red herring of sorts.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 02:38:26 PM
Wikipedia.. nice

Here is a study

International Association of Chiefs about what police recruits believe.

Done by The National Institute of Ethics

Fact revealed

http://www.aele.org/loscode2000.html
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 02:45:50 PM
Probably shock you that the vast majority of complaints against officers originate from within the department here..

No it doesn't shock me. But the vast majority of complaints against officers go unreported.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 02:48:25 PM
No it doesn't shock me. But the vast majority of complaints against officers go unreported.

how can we fix it then? How do we know what isn't reported? if not reported or investigated, how do we know it was an issue?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Here is a study

International Association of Chiefs about what police recruits believe.

Done by The National Institute of Ethics

Fact revealed

http://www.aele.org/loscode2000.html

Policing has come a long way in 15 years. I've seen the "blue wall" fall apart brick by brick in the last 22 years I've been at this department to the point only the foundation of the wall still exists. The blue wall perception at least here, is way overblown. Which is why the majority of IA complaints originated with officers rather than citizens.   
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 02:53:50 PM
Wow! So its nonsense that the American police have a code of silence? What a fucking phony you are...

Nonsense as in 1000 words of don't care/ain't reading. Not sure how "phony" applies, but not so horrible coming from you. Ever read your posts?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Emmortal on October 06, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
"False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them."

It's not that people believe the victims are still alive or that it didn't really happen, on the contrary, it's believed that the event is not due to some outside factor but an internal one which is used to drive an agenda.  There are well documented incidents throughout the history of the US government perpetrating false flag operations against itself to push propaganda or agendas.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Army_Field_Manual_30-31B

http://web.archive.org/web/20051130003012/http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/synopsis.htm

http://www.wanttoknow.info/010501operationnorthwoods

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jan/11/opinion/oe-scheer11

http://www.wanttoknow.info/documents/false_flag_brzezinski_testimony.pdf

&eurl

http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/9-11-facts#binladenkidney
http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,47109,00.html
http://www.wanttoknow.info/a-bin-laden-most-wanted-embassy-bombings
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911newsarticles-0-10000#article_1416

An assortment of verified and admitted false flag attacks carried out by various countries throughout recent history:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/53-admitted-false-flag-attacks/5432931

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 03:03:48 PM
well, some people DO believe they used actors... it was a stage.. 
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Emmortal on October 06, 2015, 03:11:17 PM
well, some people DO believe they used actors... it was a stage.. 

The possibility that actors were used in some instances after the fact isn't out of the question.  There's the infamous Sandy Hook video of one of the supposed victims fathers who was on camera laughing and smiling before his interview, takes a pause to generate tears and get into "character" and then does the interview.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 03:12:40 PM
The possibility that actors were used in some instances after the fact isn't out of the question.  There's the infamous Sandy Hook video of one of the supposed victims fathers who was on camera laughing and smiling before his interview, takes a pause to generate tears and get into "character" and then does the interview.


sigh....
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 03:13:51 PM
well, some people DO believe they used actors... it was a stage.. 

Oregon sheriff implied this about Sandy Hook. Believe that shit, someone in his position? Now he gets to see the other side.

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 03:21:55 PM
Nonsense as in 1000 words of don't care/ain't reading. Not sure how "phony" applies, but not so horrible coming from you. Ever read your posts?

Fair enough :D
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 03:24:42 PM
I didn't see Pompeii covered in lava. I can't say I witnessed WW2 first hand. That doesn't make that they happened any less likely based on the evidence I have to make a conclusion. I would say that for me, knowing this person, the intricate conspiracy and huge blow back a hoax school shooting would have, I can reasonably conclude it happened.     
Yet we have photographs of "bodies" at Pompei. Casts made out of the decayed bodies...

You did not witness WW2, but there are tons of photos and videos showing dead bodies, destruction etc.

There really are no photos of Sandy Hook indicating anybody died there.

(http://mtvesuvius-oliviasolia.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/9/6/26966422/98903_orig.png)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8ye0Aqt9RwI/TXoLdGhOeEI/AAAAAAAAD2k/-Qqa4HXjNoc/workers+with+casts+of+bodies+at+pompeii.jpg)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 03:28:26 PM
Oregon sheriff implied this about Sandy Hook. Believe that shit, someone in his position? Now he gets to see the other side.


Poor Robbie Parker - lol! Worse crisis actor ever!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XinRJzfUmZY/UO3p-avRc5I/AAAAAAAAB54/lFXIy-8I1Fg/s1600/409665_10200316162165861_254685049_n.jpg)

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 03:28:57 PM
The possibility that actors were used in some instances after the fact isn't out of the question.  There's the infamous Sandy Hook video of one of the supposed victims fathers who was on camera laughing and smiling before his interview, takes a pause to generate tears and get into "character" and then does the interview.


And this is really all these dopes need. Dismiss mountains of evidence and reason over how someone "should grieve." To even consider such stupidity instantly drops your IQ 20 points.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 03:31:20 PM
Poor Robbie Parker - lol! Worse crisis actor ever!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XinRJzfUmZY/UO3p-avRc5I/AAAAAAAAB54/lFXIy-8I1Fg/s1600/409665_10200316162165861_254685049_n.jpg)



Ad hominemed, sorry. Google solipsism, might hit home.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
Oregon sheriff implied this about Sandy Hook. Believe that shit, someone in his position? Now he gets to see the other side.



Yeah, what a clown
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 03:35:44 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 03:36:55 PM

Out of all the interviews and public statements made by parents, relatives, friends, and classmates of Sandy Hook victims, the video plucks two brief snippets of Robbie Parker (father of slain 6-year-old Emilie Parker) and Lynn McDonnell (mother of slain 7-year-old Grace McDonnell) smiling and laughing in conjunction with television appearances in which they spoke about their children, offering this as evidence that a hoax is being perpetrated by people who are merely pretending to be grieving parents. But parents who have lost children don't all walk around afterwards utterly glum and disconsolate, never allowing themselves to exhibit any emotion other than sadness. Either of them might have been laughing and smiling during or immediately prior to talking about their children for any number of reasons: because they were reacting to something funny, because they were expressing nervous anxiety about facing a national television audience, or because they were recalling fond memories of their deceased children.

 Indeed, the audio from the portion of Lynn McDonnell's interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper which was used in this conspiracy video is conveniently muted so that viewers can't see for themselves exactly why she was smiling — because she was remembering what a terrific, happy child her daughter was, and how much she loved her:
COOPER: What do you want people to know about Grace?

 LYNN MCDONNELL: Well, Grace had such a great spirit. She was a kind and gentle soul. And she was just the light and love of our family. She was just truly a special, special little girl that we loved, and she loved her brother so much. And she loved her school, Sandy Hook.

 In fact, this week, I was telling somebody she had a stomach ache one day, and I said to her, "Why don't you stay home with Mom?"

 And she said, "No way, I have too much fun there, and I don't want to miss anything." She would skip to get on the bus. It wasn't even — you know, every morning, it was the backpack was packed the night before and ready to get on the bus in the morning and head off to school. We would blow kisses every morning to each other.

 And I remember that morning putting her on the bus. She had a habit of blowing kisses, but then she'd give me a big little liver lips like this. But then she — I knew she was so happy to go off and get there.

 So it — I'd like to say that she was at a place that she loved, and so we take comfort in that, that we know she was in a place that she really loved.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp#OQX3A4YueGBxXo3J.99
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 03:42:39 PM
Out of all the interviews and public statements made by parents, relatives, friends, and classmates of Sandy Hook victims, the video plucks two brief snippets of Robbie Parker (father of slain 6-year-old Emilie Parker) and Lynn McDonnell (mother of slain 7-year-old Grace McDonnell) smiling and laughing in conjunction with television appearances in which they spoke about their children, offering this as evidence that a hoax is being perpetrated by people who are merely pretending to be grieving parents. But parents who have lost children don't all walk around afterwards utterly glum and disconsolate, never allowing themselves to exhibit any emotion other than sadness. Either of them might have been laughing and smiling during or immediately prior to talking about their children for any number of reasons: because they were reacting to something funny, because they were expressing nervous anxiety about facing a national television audience, or because they were recalling fond memories of their deceased children.

 Indeed, the audio from the portion of Lynn McDonnell's interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper which was used in this conspiracy video is conveniently muted so that viewers can't see for themselves exactly why she was smiling — because she was remembering what a terrific, happy child her daughter was, and how much she loved her:
COOPER: What do you want people to know about Grace?

 LYNN MCDONNELL: Well, Grace had such a great spirit. She was a kind and gentle soul. And she was just the light and love of our family. She was just truly a special, special little girl that we loved, and she loved her brother so much. And she loved her school, Sandy Hook.

 In fact, this week, I was telling somebody she had a stomach ache one day, and I said to her, "Why don't you stay home with Mom?"

 And she said, "No way, I have too much fun there, and I don't want to miss anything." She would skip to get on the bus. It wasn't even — you know, every morning, it was the backpack was packed the night before and ready to get on the bus in the morning and head off to school. We would blow kisses every morning to each other.

 And I remember that morning putting her on the bus. She had a habit of blowing kisses, but then she'd give me a big little liver lips like this. But then she — I knew she was so happy to go off and get there.

 So it — I'd like to say that she was at a place that she loved, and so we take comfort in that, that we know she was in a place that she really loved.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp#OQX3A4YueGBxXo3J.99

They'll just attack Snopes, same as when they debunked the 9-11 dummies. Like talking to the wall with these foilers.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 03:47:07 PM
found a comment on another forum that pretty much sums it up for me,,,,,,

"Well on CSI Miami" doesn't cut it. You cannot base your expectations of a criminal investigation on a show in which DNA samples are collected, processed and matched to a known sample in the back of a truck in a matter of seconds.

Every scene and every incident is unique. Columbine is not Sandy Hook. Therefore, "well with Columbine we saw..." doesn't cut it.

No photos of the victims post-mortem? How many times have you seen photographs of the victim of a brutal murder plastered on the front page of a local paper? "There are no photographs of the bodies" doesn't cut it.

I am a former paramedic and currently employed as a medical examiner investigator. I call tell you it is not uncommon at all for a case involving a single victim homicide to remain at the scene for up to 6 hours while the police investigation is ongoing. We're talking 20+ victims here. So, "the bodies were there for a long time" doesn't cut it.

Do you have any comprehension of how many people would be involved in such a "fabricated" incident? We're talking both local and governmental law enforcement agencies, state officials and politicians (Including R's who are more than likely opposed to gun restrictions), the local media, local funeral homes and their staff, local hospitals and their staff and community at large. You mean to tell me NO ONE is taking? NO ONE has approached a news agency with information they can provide about a "cover up"?
 
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 03:51:03 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
Lol, ok if Snopes said it's false it must be! hahah lololol! You can do better than that. Really??? You're going to offer up snopes??!!

http://railct.com/2010/04/06/snopes-and-critical-thinking/ (http://railct.com/2010/04/06/snopes-and-critical-thinking/)

"The second thing that I think is interesting about Snopes is that the pronouncements of the Mikkelsons and their staff are widely regarded as authoritative–but their authority doesn’t really have any basis apart from the track record they have in “de-bunking” exaggerated claims that others have made.  One wants to ask: Is this enough? Should they be treated as authoritatively as they so clearly are by so many?  And if not, why not?

There’s actually to my mind a good case that we shouldn’t take Snopes as authoritative–at least not to the degree that we do.  There are no credentials for “de-bunking”, after all, and no real community of “de-bunkers” (outside of a couple other websites) against which their activities could be measured.   So there doesn’t seem to be a way to understand the Snopes de-bunkers as cognitive authorities on, say, Douglas Walton’s definition.  I suppose we might say their authority comes from “position to know” (i.e. they do the research necessary to find out whether a story is rumor or fact) but that seems kind of weak too. Rather, it seems to me that their authority is maybe of a moral sort. It seems to derive from their (self-appointed? community appointed?) status as something like one of Heinlein’s “Fair Witnesses” from Stranger in a Strange Land.  (Can Snopes claim that kind of authority? Can anyone?)"
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2015, 04:00:01 PM
Is the majority of the country(probably 95+%) who believe in the "Blue Wall(blue shield) of Silence Conspiracy" all mentally ill?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence

"The Blue Wall of Silence" is very specific in what it covers, basically police corruption and misconduct. It does not include incidents, such as what happened at Umpqua Community College or other such events. Why you choose to cite this in this tread questionable. Where did you read that it's around 95% or the majority of the country that believe it exists. I found nothing suggesting this in the link you provided.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Emmortal on October 06, 2015, 04:04:06 PM
And this is really all these dopes need. Dismiss mountains of evidence and reason over how someone "should grieve." To even consider such stupidity instantly drops your IQ 20 points.

I said there is a possibility of actors used, not that I personally believe it.

I haven't looked into Sandy Hook specifically so I can't care to comment on it.  The inconsistencies in reporting on the day of and following days isn't enough to say one way or the other, only to verify the fact which we already know, that information from eye witnesses isn't reliable and mis-reporting by the media during an event such as that is common due to the chaotic nature of the event and speculation being spread as fact.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 04:04:53 PM
Out of all the interviews and public statements made by parents, relatives, friends, and classmates of Sandy Hook victims, the video plucks two brief snippets of Robbie Parker (father of slain 6-year-old Emilie Parker) and Lynn McDonnell (mother of slain 7-year-old Grace McDonnell) smiling and laughing in conjunction with television appearances in which they spoke about their children, offering this as evidence that a hoax is being perpetrated by people who are merely pretending to be grieving parents. But parents who have lost children don't all walk around afterwards utterly glum and disconsolate, never allowing themselves to exhibit any emotion other than sadness. Either of them might have been laughing and smiling during or immediately prior to talking about their children for any number of reasons: because they were reacting to something funny, because they were expressing nervous anxiety about facing a national television audience, or because they were recalling fond memories of their deceased children.

 Indeed, the audio from the portion of Lynn McDonnell's interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper which was used in this conspiracy video is conveniently muted so that viewers can't see for themselves exactly why she was smiling — because she was remembering what a terrific, happy child her daughter was, and how much she loved her:
COOPER: What do you want people to know about Grace?

 LYNN MCDONNELL: Well, Grace had such a great spirit. She was a kind and gentle soul. And she was just the light and love of our family. She was just truly a special, special little girl that we loved, and she loved her brother so much. And she loved her school, Sandy Hook.

 In fact, this week, I was telling somebody she had a stomach ache one day, and I said to her, "Why don't you stay home with Mom?"

 And she said, "No way, I have too much fun there, and I don't want to miss anything." She would skip to get on the bus. It wasn't even — you know, every morning, it was the backpack was packed the night before and ready to get on the bus in the morning and head off to school. We would blow kisses every morning to each other.

 And I remember that morning putting her on the bus. She had a habit of blowing kisses, but then she'd give me a big little liver lips like this. But then she — I knew she was so happy to go off and get there.

 So it — I'd like to say that she was at a place that she loved, and so we take comfort in that, that we know she was in a place that she really loved.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp#OQX3A4YueGBxXo3J.99
Lol ok. He is a crisis actor. Clear as daylight in the video. As an agnostic, this should raise "doubts" - no?

Is Sandy Hook’s Robbie Parker who he says he is?
http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/01/26/sandy-hooks-robbie-parker-isnt-who-he-says-he-is/ (http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/01/26/sandy-hooks-robbie-parker-isnt-who-he-says-he-is/)

(http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/robbie-robby-parker.jpg?w=500&h=294)
(http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/robbie-robby-parker-teeth1.jpg?w=500&h=297)

Would you agree with me that #1 and #2 are the same man? Think “preponderance of evidence” and “probability.” Note that #1 and #2 have the same:

V-shaped widow’s peak hairline
Eyebrow shape
Vertical frown line between the eyebrows
A “Rumpole” nose with a fleshy tip
Ear shape and size
An inverted triangle-shaped face
U-shaped chin
Same upper front teeth
Man #1 and man #2 also share other traits. Both:

1. Are in their early 30s.
2. Have lived or living in Utah.
3. Attended Brigham Young University.
4. Have identical names and almost identical nicknames:
♦ Man #1 is Robbie Parker (Robbie is a nickname of Robert)
♦ Man #2 is Robby Parker (Robby is a nickname of Robert)

Man #1 is the Robbie Parker of Sandy Hook — the father of 6-year-old Emilie Parker who was shot to death by Adam Lanza on December 14, 2012, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.

The same Robbie Parker who, in a blink of an eye, went from laughing and joking to choking back his tears as he made a statement to the press on Dec. 15, 2012, about the murder of his daughter by a crazed gunman.

Remember man #2, Robby Parker, who looks just like man #1, Robbie Parker?
I got the photo of man #2 Robby Parker from a LinkedIn page for “Robert Parker.” This is what the page says:


(http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/robby-parker.jpg?w=500&h=209)
(http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/robby-parker-linkedin1.jpg?w=500&h=516)

(http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/spotterrf.jpg?w=500&h=300)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: obsidian on October 06, 2015, 04:15:47 PM
And this is really all these dopes need. Dismiss mountains of evidence and reason over how someone "should grieve." To even consider such stupidity instantly drops your IQ 20 points.
How much are you getting paid to post BS like that? Or are you really that stupid? HAHAHA!!!
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 04:27:51 PM
Parker has now become the focus of a fresh new series of attacks, this time coming from University of Minnesota Duluth’s Professor James Fetzer. In a May 14 article for the website “Veterans Today,” Fetzer declared: “We got him! Robbie Parker, crisis actor, at long last exposed!”

According to Fetzer’s article, Parker’s real name is Samuel Travis Delaney, an actor and musician from Texas who “uses multiple aliases” and was paid by the government to “manipulate gullible Americans.”

As proof that Delaney and Parker were one and the same, Fetzer provides a few photographs of the two men for a side-by-side comparison along with an unsubstantiated claim that they’d “uncovered” Parker’s “audition tape for Sandy Hook,” the same tactic used to convince people that dead children sang at the Super Bowl.







 
 
 

It didn’t take long for this story to completely unravel. Though Fetzer was absolutely convinced that he’d unmasked “the real Robbie Parker,” he was forced to make a full retraction two days later after the man—whose real name is John Matthew Walker—came forward and set the record straight.

“I am a penniless actor and musician from Austin, TX,” Walker wrote to Fetzer. “Last year, some internet wackos decided, through a convoluted process of ‘Facebook Connect-the-dots’, that I am in actuality Robbie Parker, parent of one of the Sandy Hook victims. Not only do I look little like him, at BEST I could pass for a relative, I am nearly a foot taller [figuratively, not literally] and COVERED in tattoos.”

In a follow up article, Fetzer—apparently fearing “the potential damages” of a lawsuit—admitted he was dead wrong. “John Matthew Walker did not play the role of ‘Robbie Parker’ at Sandy Hook,” he wrote. “We have revised our conclusion on the basis of the scientific requirement of total evidence, where another alternative is better supported given the totality of the available evidence.”

Though a mistake of this magnitude might compel some to think twice before making another outlandish claim, Fetzer wasted no time coming up with an alternative theory courtesy of a fellow Sandy Hook skeptic, who calls himself “Dr. Eowyn,” of the website “Fellowship of the Minds.”


In his supplemental article, Dr. Eowyn scrutinizes the photo of a brand-new “look-alike” suspect and opines: “Unless Robbie Parker of Sandy Hook has an identical twin (which no media account ever claimed and who, strangely, did not attend the memorial service for his niece), he is the same Robby Parker who’s a ‘quality assurance engineer’ at SpotterRF, a defense contractor that’s linked to Homeland Security and the CIA.”

This AMERICAN FREE PRESS reporter contacted Robby Parker at SpotterRF on May 19. When asked if he was aware of the allegation on the website “Veterans Today,” Parker laughed and said: “I saw that. That’s a different Robby Parker.” He declined to answer any further questions.

It cannot be denied that the lives of the surviving Sandy Hook family members have been put in jeopardy as a result of the libelous accusations and speculative claims made against them. Today, it’s a stolen sign and a malicious phone call. What about tomorrow?
- See more at: http://americanfreepress.guy/#sthash.SkCVQOke.dpuf
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 06, 2015, 04:33:30 PM
To suggest these fellows are one in the same is a bit of a stretch. Folks who believe this are pretty gullible. Even the features mentioned are somewhat different in ways that lighting and camera angles can't change. One fellow has attached earlobes the other's ones are unattached or 'free'. The frown lines are not the same at all. Incidentally, loads of people develop frown lines as they mature as a result of the various emotions which show on ones face. You'd need super vision to tell whether the two teeth pointed to match. If one looked hard they'd likely find more dissimilarities between the two than similarities. It's really all about what you want to believe. It is not about the truth.
(http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/robbie-robby-parker.jpg?w=500&h=294) (http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/robbie-robby-parker-teeth1.jpg?w=500&h=297)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 04:34:25 PM
"The Blue Wall of Silence" is very specific in what it covers, basically police corruption and misconduct. It does not include incidents, such as what happened at Umpqua Community College or other such events. Why you choose to cite this in this tread questionable. Where did you read that it's around 95% or the majority of the country that believe it exists. I found nothing suggesting this in the link you provided.

Ropo says anyone who believes in any Conspiracy is a mental case. The Blue Wall of Silence was mentioned to show Conspiracy's certainly do exist. It wasn't long ago that police were stating that the Blue sheild doesn't exist. Yet now they've admitted to it. Showing what was once a Conspiracy theory was/is actually true...Which is also why I brought up Hitler's Gestapo...That is all...
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 04:38:04 PM
How much are you getting paid to post BS like that? Or are you really that stupid? HAHAHA!!!

The condescending laughter and whatnot is a fairly recent tactic, no? Spin it, make 'em think they're ridiculous. Imagine it could have an affect on certain impressionable types.

Ever work?
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 04:42:26 PM
Ropo says anyone who believes in any Conspiracy is a mental case. The Blue Wall of Silence was mentioned to show Conspiracy's certainly do exist. It wasn't long ago that police were stating that the Blue sheild doesn't exist. Yet now they've admitted to it. Showing what was once a Conspiracy theory was/is actually true...Which is also why I brought up Hitler's Gestapo...That is all...

I kinda see where you are going with this.. but I think comparing the Blue Wall to "conspiracy theories" is a stretch of sorts. Now if police where in concert nationwide to flood the streets with narcotics and the courts and local government were in on it.. that would be comparable.  officers lying about a particular relatively isolated incident is a little different. But I do see the point you were making
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 04:44:19 PM
I kinda see where you are going with this.. but I think comparing the Blue Wall to "conspiracy theories" is a stretch of sorts. Now if police where in concert nationwide to flood the streets with narcotics and the courts and local government were in on it.. that would be comparable.  officers lying about a particular relatively isolated incident is a little different. But I do see the point you were making

Indeed, incredibly weak comparison.

Eventually, assuming they have't already done so, this newer, Internet-fueled paranoia will be classified by the WHO or APA or whomever as the disorder it is. Too deep and widespread since 9-11 to just be considered healthy curiosity or whatever, not anymore. Shit's gotten ridiculous with these kooks.

HAVE to assume it's presently being researched.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Twaddle on October 06, 2015, 04:46:30 PM
To suggest these fellows are one in the same is a bit of a stretch. Folks who believe this are pretty gullible. Even the features mentioned are somewhat different in ways that lighting and camera angles can't change. One fellow has attached earlobes the other's ones are unattached or 'free'. The frown lines are not the same at all. Incidentally, loads of people develop frown lines as they mature as a result of the various emotions which show on ones face. You'd need super vision to tell whether the two teeth pointed to match. If one looked hard they'd likely find more dissimilarities between the two than similarities. It's really all about what you want to believe. It is not about the truth.
(http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/robbie-robby-parker.jpg?w=500&h=294) (http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/robbie-robby-parker-teeth1.jpg?w=500&h=297)

This is no the same person.  The ears are a dead giveaway.  

This whole CT thing is getting really lame.   :-\
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 06, 2015, 04:46:47 PM
as I was reading some articles from some of the leading conspiracy theorist on the Sandy Hook shooting it really struck home how wound up in this theory they are. And at every step when they are proven wrong they brush it aside and go on to the next piece of "evidence". They are demeaning the father of the slain girl, making all kinds of accusations.. really sick folks. I think I need a shower
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 06, 2015, 04:51:17 PM
The Shooter...Great scene

Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 06, 2015, 05:07:03 PM
as I was reading some articles from some of the leading conspiracy theorist on the Sandy Hook shooting it really struck home how wound up in this theory they are. And at every step when they are proven wrong they brush it aside and go on to the next piece of "evidence". They are demeaning the father of the slain girl, making all kinds of accusations.. really sick folks. I think I need a shower

They should all be severely beaten, within inches.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: TuHolmes on October 06, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
as I was reading some articles from some of the leading conspiracy theorist on the Sandy Hook shooting it really struck home how wound up in this theory they are. And at every step when they are proven wrong they brush it aside and go on to the next piece of "evidence". They are demeaning the father of the slain girl, making all kinds of accusations.. really sick folks. I think I need a shower

Certainly it is quite disgusting.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Never1AShow on October 06, 2015, 10:36:23 PM
There is a certain irony to people who are mentally ill with conspiracy theoryism obsessing over a mentally ill person who murdered kids.  It all points in one direction, mental illness.

This was the plan of the aliens that "crash landed" at Roswell in 1947 (2 years after the TWO first atomic bombs being used).  Their crash landing was a false flag by the aliens.  The ship contained easily reverse engineerable technology that was a Trojan horse meant to spread through society and make use weaker, fatter, more drugged and more docile.  Their foodstuffs was where we learned about high fructose corn syrup.  Their medicine on board brought us SSRIs and various oxycodones.  Their communications tech is now our iPhones.  All designed to cause society worldwide to lose focus drugged out staring at screens.

If only one atomic bomb had been required there would not have been the need for the Trojan horse solution that will lead to our extermination in the not too distant future.  But one was not enough.  Any species that requires a second bomb to be dropped so quickly gets slated for elimination.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 07, 2015, 02:48:53 AM
Post a link to this study.

What you are posting is purely subjective. Why are you better at recognizing a lie than someone questioning "his" story by the victors? You can barely string two sentences together properly. Your responses are loaded with emotion, insults, subjectivity and signs of panic. You hardly ever post evidence yourself to back up your claims. You usually claim: "This has been proven to be a lie." or "Please post real evidence that this is a Conspiracy" etc. You really are not able to debate any of these subjects. It's above your intellect I believe.

However, I will try ... lol!

Regarding the WTC 7 free fall collapse, NIST prepared a computer model attempting to explain why it collapsed at free fall. In case you don't know, a free fall collapse is only possible if all columns at the base of the building failed at the same time. This typically happens when buildings are demolished with explosives.

Engineers have requested that the model's data be released by NIST. This is the response they received:

http://cryptome.org/nist070709.pdf (http://cryptome.org/nist070709.pdf)

http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/927-nists-wtc-7-reports-filled-with-fantasy-fiction-and-fraud-intro (http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/927-nists-wtc-7-reports-filled-with-fantasy-fiction-and-fraud-intro)

Indeed, the fall of World Trade Center Building 7 is the third of the three only known "global collapses" of high-rise, steel-framed buildings ever recorded, and all three incredibly took place in one day: September 11, 2001.
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Here you are: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=580290.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=580290.0)

What comes that bullshit of yours, why you link that crap but not the video where all of us would see the explosions? Try to explain that? I have said time after time, that easiest way to prove those explosions would be showing them from the videos. Why no one has even try to do that? Why no one want to use easiest way to prove this to the people? There can be only one explanation, and it is this: THERE ISN'T ANY EXPLOSIONS AT ALL. That is only reason why you guys are still linking that futile crap instead of those videos. There is plenty of video material from every side of the buildings, and in that material isn't even one explosion. If there would be something even faintly looking little bit like explosion, foil hats would have posted that in every fucking bulletin board on this universe.

Secondly, all "conspiracy theories" and so called "false flag operations" has one common rule: foil hats are completely blind to the real evidence. Why? They have blind faith which leads them at the evidence, which have being made by the stupids to the morons. People at the crime scene doesn't know shit, but the bunch of insane teenagers know it all even never leaving at their home, just reading crap from the internet? Have you never wonder why it is like that? No, because you don't have brain capacity to do such a hard thinking. Your thinking is more like copy/paste, because you use only the words what someone else has write for you. If you would be able to really think these things, you would see how ridiculously stupid there theories are.

And finally, please explain why all those fake evidences? Even this thread has them, because you idiots like to play games with human faces. There is another pair of photos, clearly a different person, but you claim that it is about the same man. No it isn't, and you know it. So why all these fake "evidences"? Are you guys blind or just the most stupid morons on this planet? The teeth's, the ears, the hair, the skin, they are all different, because as always, there has been moronically stupid foil hats in to this.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 07, 2015, 02:58:10 AM
Is being a sheep also a mental illness? One wonders. Who's got the illness, those who question authority and propaganda, or the compliant ones who believe everything they're told?

Study proves 95% of people really are sheeple

http://www.naturalnews.com/034676_sheeple_study_psychology.html# (http://www.naturalnews.com/034676_sheeple_study_psychology.html#)

(NaturalNews) Scientists at the University of Leeds have conducted research that proves the tendency many have to act like sheep, unwittingly following crowd as if they didn't possess a reasoning mind. While this tendency may have its uses in some situations, such as planning pedestrian flow in busy areas, it doesn't inspire a ton of hope for humankind.

The study showed that it takes a minority of just five percent to influence a crowd's direction - and that the other 95 percent follow without even realizing what is going on.

Professor Krause, with PhD student John Dyer, conducted a series of experiments in which groups of volunteers walked randomly around a large hall. Within the group, a few received instructions regarding where to walk. Participants were not allowed to communicate with one or intentionally influence anyone.

The findings in all cases revealed that the informed individuals were followed by the others in the crowd, forming a self-organizing, snake-like structure (or flock of sheep, take your pick).

"We've all been in situations where we got swept along by a crowd," said Professor Krause. "But what's interesting about this research is that our participants ended up making a consensus decision despite the fact that they weren't allowed to talk or gesture to one another. In most cases the participants didn't realize they were being led by others at all."

Scary. Are we such sheeple that we allow a few "informed" people to lead us around without even knowing what's happening? Sadly, it makes sense. How many fall for scams of all kinds because of friends or "informed" sources, from pyramid schemes to religious hoaxes and political coverups. We seem to believe just about anything, or blindly tolerate it as long as the message is delivered with enough social credibility.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034676_sheeple_study_psychology.html#ixzz3noGpLeYd

Well, just look at yourself? What a sheeple you are, because you eat all that crap which you find from the foil hat sites. You follow that bunch like a sheep, saying what they say, believing only what they believe, and spreading their word where ever you go. That, dear child, is handbook definition of the sheeple. And furthermore, you don't even think to ask any evidence to prove their theories. Instead of that, you defend their crap knowing that there isn't any evidence at all. That kind of stupidity cannot exist without serious mental illness.. 
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 07, 2015, 03:04:32 AM
HAHA. Ropo is way out of his league. His posts are laden with emotion, temper tantrums, insults etc. He is hardly slaying anything. I have yet to see an intelligent post by him where he refutes any questions asked.

I just tell the truth, and people who have healthy brains, understand it perfectly. Then there is this bunch of mentally ill little kids, who think that they are clever when they are repeating the crap they have found from the internet like a flock of parrots  ;D

Have we seen the videos which shows the real explosion at the 9/11 attack? Oh gee, have I missed it? Where did you put it, you little weasel??  ;D
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 07, 2015, 03:25:08 AM
Hitler's Gestapo(secrete police) started out as a conspiracy...Millions of Jews didn't believe that they existed...Even when close family members were telling them that they did and what they were doing. So many Jews never left Germany because they just refused to believe in such things(Conspiracy theorist they would call them)...I wonder how many Jewish lives would have been saved if they believed early on what Hilter was up to? Ropo yells at the top of his lungs just how "mentally ill" conspiracy theorists are. If Ropo lived in Germany during the early years of WW2, how many Jews would have died because they listened to him and he just didn't have enough "evidence" that Hilter was doing such things?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

You fucking morons are really reaching out in this thread? Pompei? Gestapo? Do you have to go that far to find anything which even faintly resembles an example?  ;D

And how do this theory of yours fit in that other theory of yours, the theory of the holohoax? In fact, referring the information presented by your mentors, the über foil hats, gestapo was a best friend of jews, some kind of underground red cross, which did all kind of good for the jews at those holiday camps like Auschwitz.. so what the fuck you are talking about?

And would it be possible that you don't put words in my mouth? As far as I know, what I have said is that you morons should not believe things which hasn't be proved. That it is insanely stupid to believe these stories, which doesn't include any evidence at all. If that is too hard to you to understand, you are simply too stupid to this conversation.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 07, 2015, 03:47:35 AM
Yet we have photographs of "bodies" at Pompei. Casts made out of the decayed bodies...

You did not witness WW2, but there are tons of photos and videos showing dead bodies, destruction etc.

There really are no photos of Sandy Hook indicating anybody died there.

(http://mtvesuvius-oliviasolia.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/9/6/26966422/98903_orig.png)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8ye0Aqt9RwI/TXoLdGhOeEI/AAAAAAAAD2k/-Qqa4HXjNoc/workers+with+casts+of+bodies+at+pompeii.jpg)

So, you would need to see photos of the mutilated children's to believe they are dead? Where you have seen any? Any link, or do you have to go back in to Vietnam war or WW2? How difficult it is to understand that they can't publish those pictures, because it is against the law. Parents would sue the publisher for billions, and they would win their case hands down. Isn't it quite dumb to demand things which you know that they are impossible to get, because there is laws in this world?

If you get a boner from things like that, here is a feast for you:https://www.pinterest.com/pin/457326537131942276/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/457326537131942276/)
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Ropo on October 07, 2015, 04:05:09 AM
found a comment on another forum that pretty much sums it up for me,,,,,,

"Well on CSI Miami" doesn't cut it. You cannot base your expectations of a criminal investigation on a show in which DNA samples are collected, processed and matched to a known sample in the back of a truck in a matter of seconds.

Every scene and every incident is unique. Columbine is not Sandy Hook. Therefore, "well with Columbine we saw..." doesn't cut it.

No photos of the victims post-mortem? How many times have you seen photographs of the victim of a brutal murder plastered on the front page of a local paper? "There are no photographs of the bodies" doesn't cut it.

I am a former paramedic and currently employed as a medical examiner investigator. I call tell you it is not uncommon at all for a case involving a single victim homicide to remain at the scene for up to 6 hours while the police investigation is ongoing. We're talking 20+ victims here. So, "the bodies were there for a long time" doesn't cut it.

Do you have any comprehension of how many people would be involved in such a "fabricated" incident? We're talking both local and governmental law enforcement agencies, state officials and politicians (Including R's who are more than likely opposed to gun restrictions), the local media, local funeral homes and their staff, local hospitals and their staff and community at large. You mean to tell me NO ONE is taking? NO ONE has approached a news agency with information they can provide about a "cover up"?
 

Have you more of that bullshit, or did you run out of it? Why all in here are former this and that what ever thread currently demands, while it is obvious that writer is teen brat without any knowledge what so ever? In which front page has been picture of the murdered child? Not even the Lindbergh case has one, so what are you talking about? There may have being some child casualties of war, but I bet you would have difficulties to link here even one front page which has post mortem picture of the murdered child.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Never1AShow on October 07, 2015, 06:19:33 AM
These false flag conspiracy theories are put out by the government to identify the morons stupid enough to beleive in such conspiracies.  They add their names to a list of those first to go to the camps at go time.  While they may profess to be all antigovernment and full of truth, they are clearly not rational adults.  Any rational adult would realize keeping a conspiracy secret with that many people involved is impossible.  Anyone who ever worked for any government or was in the army would also realize this.

You just made the list, buddy.  -- Francis Sawyer.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2015, 08:46:15 AM
False flag conspiracy theories equal paranoia equal mental illness or the other way around. -Too much weed is also a possibility.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 07, 2015, 11:22:11 AM
I said there is a possibility of actors used, not that I personally believe it.

I haven't looked into Sandy Hook specifically so I can't care to comment on it.  The inconsistencies in reporting on the day of and following days isn't enough to say one way or the other, only to verify the fact which we already know, that information from eye witnesses isn't reliable and mis-reporting by the media during an event such as that is common due to the chaotic nature of the event and speculation being spread as fact.

There is also a possibility that no one truly exists beyond our imagination. We should therefore focus on probability instead.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 07, 2015, 11:26:02 AM
There is a certain irony to people who are mentally ill with conspiracy theoryism obsessing over a mentally ill person who murdered kids.  It all points in one direction, mental illness.

This was the plan of the aliens that "crash landed" at Roswell in 1947 (2 years after the TWO first atomic bombs being used).  Their crash landing was a false flag by the aliens.  The ship contained easily reverse engineerable technology that was a Trojan horse meant to spread through society and make use weaker, fatter, more drugged and more docile.  Their foodstuffs was where we learned about high fructose corn syrup.  Their medicine on board brought us SSRIs and various oxycodones.  Their communications tech is now our iPhones.  All designed to cause society worldwide to lose focus drugged out staring at screens.

If only one atomic bomb had been required there would not have been the need for the Trojan horse solution that will lead to our extermination in the not too distant future.  But one was not enough.  Any species that requires a second bomb to be dropped so quickly gets slated for elimination.

Bonus point word, sir. Concerted effort to revive henceforth.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2015, 02:48:42 PM
The Oregonian broke the media silence on the shooter. Naturally, it was the upstairs neighbor who spilled the beans to put herself in the spotlight. The shooter should get no recognition at all. -just another reminder for me to remember to cancel that rag.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 07, 2015, 03:04:10 PM
The Oregonian broke the media silence on the shooter. Naturally, it was the upstairs neighbor who spilled the beans to put herself in the spotlight. The shooter should get no recognition at all. -just another reminder for me to remember to cancel that rag.

Christopher Harper-Mercer, there was never any media silence. Just a self-censoring sheriff is all, who probably should've done likewise with his own conspiracy idiocy back when.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2015, 06:26:02 PM
Christopher Harper-Mercer, there was never any media silence. Just a self-censoring sheriff is all, who probably should've done likewise with his own conspiracy idiocy back when.

Well there should have been. It's grotesque how folks want to know all about these nut jobs. Are they trying to be sure they don't resemble them? You can't say the Smith lady isn't a media hound.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 07, 2015, 11:57:38 PM
Well there should have been. It's grotesque how folks want to know all about these nut jobs. Are they trying to be sure they don't resemble them? You can't say the Smith lady isn't a media hound.

Jaclyn or Patti?

It's news, Prime. People want to know, and we probably should. Whether or not we name them, they will still be the famous face associated with "The Oregon Shooter" or "The Sandy Hook Killer" or "The Nazi Who Murdered All Those Jews," etc.

They're dead, not like they get to bask in the glory.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2015, 12:12:41 AM
Jaclyn or Patti?

It's news, Prime. People want to know, and we probably should. Whether or not we name them, they will still be the famous face associated with "The Oregon Shooter" or "The Sandy Hook Killer" or "The Nazi Who Murdered All Those Jews," etc.

They're dead, not like they get to bask in the glory.

You are right. They are dead so the media attention is lost on them. Some suggest it inspires copycats.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2015, 01:50:56 AM
You are right. They are dead so the media attention is lost on them. Some suggest it inspires copycats.

It very well may. Can't even dispute it, really; all these recent turds have referenced Harris/Klebold or V Tech, etc. They see these fucks as heroes. Modern technology, though, can't unring that bell.

Find a YouTube documentary about one of these school shootings, just to read the comments below. You'll be sickened to learn who's out there walking among us. And it ain't just a few.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The True Adonis on October 08, 2015, 08:00:09 PM
It very well may. Can't even dispute it, really; all these recent turds have referenced Harris/Klebold or V Tech, etc. They see these fucks as heroes. Modern technology, though, can't unring that bell.

Find a YouTube documentary about one of these school shootings, just to read the comments below. You'll be sickened to learn who's out there walking among us. And it ain't just a few.
Ban reproduction.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 08, 2015, 09:55:06 PM
Ban reproduction.

Seconded.
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: The Ugly on October 09, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
The Oregonian broke the media silence on the shooter. Naturally, it was the upstairs neighbor who spilled the beans to put herself in the spotlight. The shooter should get no recognition at all. -just another reminder for me to remember to cancel that rag.

There has been silence toward Mom, though, who supplied the guns and bragged online about his enthusiasm. They interviewed Pop, no idea why Ma is off limits:
Title: Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
Post by: Primemuscle on October 09, 2015, 12:59:55 PM
There's been another school shooting. This one was at Northern Arizona University, under different circumstances. No one has said this, but it could be gang related.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gunman-kills-1-injures-3-northern-arizona-university-school-officials-n441561 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gunman-kills-1-injures-3-northern-arizona-university-school-officials-n441561)