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mentzer bros in vince's gym circa 1980... note mike has on a george snyder olympus gym shirt...
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Unbelieveable those were pros back then. Would pass as average gymrats today.
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Those two were excellent, especially so Mike. I know Pearl said Ray was one of the strongest bodybuilders around though. Bodybuilding hasn't gone downhill since then.
It's gone down the toilet.
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Those two were excellent, especially so Mike. I know Pearl said Ray was one of the strongest bodybuilders around though. Bodybuilding hasn't gone downhill since then.
It's gone down the toilet.
I agree with you 100%.
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Unbelieveable those were pros back then. Would pass as average gymrats today.
this is how the avg guy looks in the gym you go to.... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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a few more pics of mr average.. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Doesn't look like Vince's gym to me. He had wooden benches and red carpet.
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Doesn't look like Vince's gym to me. He had wooden benches and red carpet.
you could be right, it was identified as vince's gym ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Doesn't look like Vince's gym to me. He had wooden benches and red carpet.
And Vince had pics of himself all over his gym.
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Vince current gym
(http://image.motortrend.com/f/features/consumer/1206_temple_of_tesla_touring_elons_factory/38156267/Tesla-multi-tasking-robots.jpg)
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bicep supinator device at Vince gym
(http://cloosrobot.com/wp-content/files_mf/1282684744803365D.JPG)
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Vince current gym
(http://image.motortrend.com/f/features/consumer/1206_temple_of_tesla_touring_elons_factory/38156267/Tesla-multi-tasking-robots.jpg)
I trained there back in 2013. I got huge there.
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There is no way that Vince would allow 2 known steroid users to use his gym, this was his one golden rule.
Larry Scott and Mohamed Makkaway had to prove they were clean before Vince would train them.
Even the biggest fool knows that Vince only trained natural athletes.
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mentzer bros in vince's gym circa 1980... note mike has on a george snyder olympus gym shirt...
Who's the bald schmoe behind Ray? Early version of the "Gayor of Bodybuilding" ?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/4repw2.jpg)
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Who's the bald schmoe behind Ray? Early version of the "Gayor of Bodybuilding" ?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/4repw2.jpg)
He has beautiful calves and ankles and is enjoying touching the huge black fellow's traps so who are we to judge?
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Unbelieveable those were pros back then. Would pass as average gymrats today.
You're a daft kunt
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Unbelieveable those were pros back then. Would pass as average gymrats today.
holy crap what gym do u go to???? :o
Holy crap :o
What's the name of this place u go to?? :o :o :o
The 120 pound Dumbbells are prob always being used
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I trained there back in 2013. I got huge there.
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Vince today ..
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Who's the bald schmoe behind Ray? Early version of the "Gayor of Bodybuilding" ?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/4repw2.jpg)
You fucking beat me to it. Skinny twink leaning on the mountain of ebony muscle. :D
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There is no way that Vince would allow 2 known steroid users to use his gym, this was his one golden rule.
Larry Scott and Mohamed Makkaway had to prove they were clean before Vince would train them.
Even the biggest fool knows that Vince only trained natural athletes.
oh boy
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You're a daft kunt
Affeman is an annoying troll.
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bicep supinator device at Vince gym
(http://cloosrobot.com/wp-content/files_mf/1282684744803365D.JPG)
You sure? That looks like a 4 way neck machine
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oh boy
what I said is true, to say anything else is to disrespect Vince's memory.
All you young pups think you cant build muscle without drugs but Vince proved this wrong with Mohamed and Larry.
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what I said is true, to say anything else is to disrespect Vince's memory.
All you young pups think you cant build muscle without drugs but Vince proved this wrong with Mohamed and Larry.
*SNICKER*
I'm olde. ;D ;D
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what I said is true, to say anything else is to disrespect Vince's memory.
All you young pups think you cant build muscle without drugs but Vince proved this wrong with Mohamed and Larry.
we know you are trolling but just in case, larry scott admitted at least to taking dianabol, therefore vince g. was somewhat of a lying sellout himself.
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what I said is true, to say anything else is to disrespect Vince's memory.
All you young pups think you cant build muscle without drugs but Vince proved this wrong with Mohamed and Larry.
so dumb. Don Howarth was on the sauce and Vince talked about it openly to me. You're delusional.
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I agree with you 100%.
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Thank you. With bodybuilding I look at it in much the same way I view the cultural malaise that afflicts so much of the world.
We cannot go back and yet we continue to go backwards all the while calling it "progress".
Maybe, just maybe what is before us is within us. That is true of so much of what passes for societal zeitgeist. We have it in our power to change but as always, change for the better is harder to achieve. People are influenced from all directions today. In the past it was family and church (not always good, hence the lower case for the latter of these two), now it's CNN and FOX. And worse.
Bodybuilding is influenced by the same sort of mentally ill men that find women with 44 EEEE breasts their cup of fetish.
Oh lord, I am rambling again. ;D
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someone said that this is probably the valencia health club in california,,, i don't think it's vince's either....possibly ray's gym but more likely valencia.
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Nice looking old hardcore gym just the same...........sadly missed! :(
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we know you are trolling but just in case, larry scott admitted at least to taking dianabol, therefore vince g. was somewhat of a lying sellout himself.
Scott only took dianabol after he won the 66 Olympia. This is why Vince threw him out his gym and Larry retired and didn't compete in 67 as he couldn't build natural muscle without Vince and the dianabol didn't compensate for Vince's glandulars and advanced multi side muscle building techniques.
Learn some history dumbass.
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Scott only took dianabol after he won the 66 Olympia. This is why Vince threw him out his gym and Larry retired and didn't compete in 67 as he couldn't build natural muscle without Vince and the dianabol didn't compensate for Vince's glandulars and advanced multi side muscle building techniques.
Learn some history dumbass.
lol. U r either a troll or have the gullibity of a 4 year old.
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holy crap what gym do u go to???? :o
Holy crap :o
What's the name of this place u go to?? :o :o :o
The 120 pound Dumbbells are prob always being used
And thats just for curls.
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mentzer bros in vince's gym circa 1980... note mike has on a george snyder olympus gym shirt...
You NEVER see guys like this anywhere in any gym with thick slabs of muscle like that and certainly not arms like that. Except maybe that Dan Hill guy.
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lol. U r either a troll or have the gullibity of a 4 year old.
Ask yourself this question. Why would Vince give his life to unveiling the secrets of 4 sides to a muscle training and glandular supplementation and then allow drug taking bodybuilders to enter his gym ? A gym so adorned by his own images as to be a veritable shrine to the outcome of scientific training and nutrition pre 1960.
If he let steroid users train at his gym would that not make the whole Vince Gironda mystique and legend nothing but smoke and mirrors?
I am fed up with the disrespect shown to Vince on here.
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Gironda let Arnold train at his gym. That says it all. Larry's physique changed in a very short period in the early sixties. We all suspected the reason for his amazing gains. Vince was an intelligent man so I doubt he was unaware of what his stars were doing.
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Ask yourself this question. Why would Vince give his life to unveiling the secrets of 4 sides to a muscle training and glandular supplementation and then allow drug taking bodybuilders to enter his gym ? A gym so adorned by his own images as to be a veritable shrine to the outcome of scientific training and nutrition pre 1960.
If he let steroid users train at his gym would that not make the whole Vince Gironda mystique and legend nothing but smoke and mirrors?
I am fed up with the disrespect shown to Vince on here.
Why indeed? If by "smoke and mirrors" you meant dope and coke, I would say you are correct. Kommiefornia (where Vince's place was located) has always encouraged the use of such all natural substances while eschewing and demonizing tobacco based products and this in spite of the fact that the Native Amuricans gave that leaf to whitey. And now they're saying "second hand vapor" is eeeeevile too.
I am certain the Vince's Gym was a palace of purity, peace and all things pleasant with all natural camel dung laden with strawberries and honey incense burning 7/24 to keep the musky odor of scrotum from the air.
Or something like that.
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Gironda let Arnold train at his gym. That says it all. Larry's physique changed in a very short period in the early sixties. We all suspected the reason for his amazing gains. Vince was an intelligent man so I doubt he was unaware of what his stars were doing.
this
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They were all on Blair's protein and the Nilevar he used to get for them.
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Anyone that thinks Larry Scott got his body without gear is either 16 years old or the most gullible bastard on Earth with zero BB knowledge. :(
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Anyone that thinks Larry Scott got his body without gear is either 16 years old or the most gullible bastard on Earth with zero BB knowledge. :(
I recall stories of him passing out from too much D-Bol. Probably not true, but it skeered me all the same. Dammit!
Like "The Graft", Scott was narrow of shoulder but unlike Phildo, Scott's character was a mile wide.
Damn. I am old. Everybody! Stay off my lawn! ;D
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Anyone that thinks Larry Scott got his body without gear is either 16 years old or the most gullible bastard on Earth with zero BB knowledge. :(
Everyone knows that Scott made his best gains by mixing Blair's powder in heavy whipping cream.
GEEZUS...
Why is that so hard to comprehend?
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Scott only took dianabol after he won the 66 Olympia. This is why Vince threw him out his gym and Larry retired and didn't compete in 67 as he couldn't build natural muscle without Vince and the dianabol didn't compensate for Vince's glandulars and advanced multi side muscle building techniques.
Learn some history dumbass.
I assume you're just trolling
you can't really believe that nonsense (or the other crap you've posted in this thread)
Vince's gym was full of guys on steroids
If you don't believe that then I've got some old left over Weider Anabolic Mega Paks you might be interested in.
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Everyone knows that Scott made his best gains by mixing Blair's powder in heavy whipping cream.
GEEZUS...
Why is that so hard to comprehend?
Oh... and raw eggs.
Gotta have eggs, and gotta be raw.
Doesn't work unless they're raw.
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Oh... and raw eggs.
Gotta have eggs, and gotta be raw.
Doesn't work unless they're raw.
they gotta be fertile eggs
that's the only way to get the magic effect
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Much wisdom in this thread. Vince is looking down and smiling at us living his legacy of natural massivity.
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they gotta be fertile eggs
Yes, yes...
I almost forgot...
Fertile raw eggs, mixed with heavy whipping cream and Rheo H. Blair's secret protein powder formula that duplicated the molecular structure of human breast milk that doubles an infant's growth rate every 6 months... Sipped through a pinched straw to mimic the feeding rate of a pre-natal baby...
Plus, Vince's glandulars and plant sterols...
Scott simply admitted to dianabol use as a diversion to what he really used to get his physique.
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"Super Spectrum" was the key.
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;D
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what was true then is still true. genetics plus drugs plus (less nowadays) hard work = the trophy.
Scott wasn't great genetically except for that freakin bicep that went alll the way into the forearm, like sergio. He said that he was told so early in his training. He focused on his tricep but someone told him no, you got the bicep.
also he used to take dianabol until he pissed blood, then he would back off
and ps i believe that he worked very hard, which most people don't understand nowadays
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what was true then is still true. genetics plus drugs plus (less nowadays) hard work = the trophy.
Scott wasn't great genetically except for that freakin bicep that went alll the way into the forearm, like sergio. He said that he was told so early in his training. He focused on his tricep but someone told him no, you got the bicep.
also he used to take dianabol until he pissed blood, then he would back off
;D
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;D
A great example there of Larry and Freddy and the natural gains achieved under the Iron Guru Vince. Why they tried steroids later on is a mystery.
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Funk I have that pic hanging in the brickyard. Was wondering where u got it in color then I read the photo itself. Someone colorized that very well!
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Funk I have that pic hanging in the brickyard. Was wondering where u got it in color then I read the photo itself. Someone colorized that very well!
Slik, there is a guy colorizing many famous old-time bodybuilding photos.
Funk's got a great thread featuring many of those pictures on the History board. You should check it out!
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Slik, there is a guy colorizing many famous old-time bodybuilding photos.
Funk's got a great thread featuring many of those pictures on the History board. You should check it out!
ha! I never knew there was a history board. Thx!
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Ask yourself this question. Why would Vince give his life to unveiling the secrets of 4 sides to a muscle training and glandular supplementation and then allow drug taking bodybuilders to enter his gym ? A gym so adorned by his own images as to be a veritable shrine to the outcome of scientific training and nutrition pre 1960.
If he let steroid users train at his gym would that not make the whole Vince Gironda mystique and legend nothing but smoke and mirrors?
I am fed up with the disrespect shown to Vince on here.
You are delusional...I would bet that Vince was on drugs himself....Haven't you learned that bodybuilders are compulsive liars? and I've been in Vince's Gym, back in 1975.
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Vince current gym
(http://image.motortrend.com/f/features/consumer/1206_temple_of_tesla_touring_elons_factory/38156267/Tesla-multi-tasking-robots.jpg)
lolz
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You are delusional...I would bet that Vince was on drugs himself....Haven't you learned that bodybuilders are compulsive liars? and I've been in Vince's Gym, back in 1975.
Sounds like you are senile if you think for one moment that Vince was on drugs or trained drug users.
I'm guessing Vince threw you out of his gym and you have been bitter ever since. You obviously know nothing about what went on in the 1970's in California.
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what I said is true, to say anything else is to disrespect Vince's memory.
All you young pups think you cant build muscle without drugs but Vince proved this wrong with Mohamed and Larry.
Haha even though you're trolling Mohamed admitted to using steroids and diuretics back when Vince was training him.
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Haha even though you're trolling Mohamed admitted to using steroids and diuretics back when Vince was training him.
What does it even matter. Vince is irrelevant today. The sport has moved on. His physique was skinny and sucked. By 1980 he was irrelevant except as a crank. And if he was going to have a natural only gym, it would be filled with people who couldn't win a local show today.
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(http://s18.postimg.org/mgahbwaex/basile_mech_warrior_24_11_2014.jpg)
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Haha even though you're trolling Mohamed admitted to using steroids and diuretics back when Vince was training him.
I remember Vince got Mohamed into shape drug free for the NY night of the champions around 1982 and then matched him pose for pose from the audience in a bizarre vodka fuelled performance complete with fringed cowboy jacket.
One things for sure, Vince got Mohammed into the best drug free condition of anyone at that time.
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You cannot be serious....No one is that naive...
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I remember Vince got Mohamed into shape drug free for the NY night of the champions around 1982 and then matched him pose for pose from the audience in a bizarre vodka fuelled performance complete with fringed cowboy jacket.
One things for sure, Vince got Mohammed into the best drug free condition of anyone at that time.
Actually you are correct in Mohammed's "claim" to be drug free during the NY NOC. He admits to using steroids before and after that and for the 83 Olympia. He also admits to using diuretics. It's safe to say that his mass was built through years of training and drug use.
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ha! I never knew there was a history board. Thx!
A Great Board :)
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Actually you are correct in Mohammed's "claim" to be drug free during the NY NOC.
Thank you for the validation. "Oldgolds" seems like a jealous hater of Vince.
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This should answer all the doubters:
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This should answer all the doubters:
8) 8) 8) 8)
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Thank you for the validation. "Oldgolds" seems like a jealous hater of Vince.
you seem like a delusional teenager
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What does it even matter. Vince is irrelevant today. The sport has moved on. His physique was skinny and sucked. By 1980 he was irrelevant except as a crank. And if he was going to have a natural only gym, it would be filled with people who couldn't win a local show today.
Vince Gironda was by all accounts arrogant.cocky and down right an asshole. I never got the chance to speak to him but Bob Kennedy. Bob did say he never understood his moods. Also said maybe because he never won a titel. This he said but also he explained why Gironda hated squats and Flat Benches. Gironda was not wrong in his theory in chest training. legs...i disagree somewhat
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Vince Gironda was by all accounts arrogant.cocky and down right an asshole. I never got the chance to speak to him but Bob Kennedy. Bob did say he never understood his moods. Also said maybe because he never won a titel. This he said but also he explained why Gironda hated squats and Flat Benches. Gironda was not wrong in his theory in chest training. legs...i disagree somewhat
robert kennedy exposing the truth of the fake weights used in many of v-gyms pics...
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Bob Kennedy i did like. Was very down to earth and friendly. A Real British Gentleman.
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Never met him or saw him on vid.
From the pictures he comes off as a huge ego maniac which started looking very sick in later years. On the other hand, maybe, he quickly cut through all the bullshit and delivered some good insight... I do not know.
Btw, the fake weights are retarded.
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This should answer all the doubters:
That old dude doesn't know what he's talking about. Larry took steroids after he left Vince's and used them for his comeback in 1979 but without Vince's techniques he didn't make it. As for being a physical wreck like the old man is implying, well Larry looked great up to the last year or two before he died. That old black guy looks like he's never seen a weight in his life.
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That old dude doesn't know what he's talking about. Larry took steroids after he left Vince's and used them for his comeback in 1979 but without Vince's techniques he didn't make it. As for being a physical wreck like the old man is implying, well Larry looked great up to the last year or two before he died. That old black guy looks like he's never seen a weight in his life.
i think he saw a few , he used to train with tom sansone till leroy almost ripped his foot off in a motorcycle accident..... sansone early death was blamed on steroid abuse.... whether it was or not is debatable.
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Funk I think you will find that the picture of the black guy you posted is a young Sergio Oliva when he had hair. It's certainly not the old rambling guy in that video.
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I knew Vince and I knew Larry and I was in Vince's Gym more than a few times, I can't say who did or who did not take steroids back in them good old days because I never watch anyone ingest them or shoot them up ..... but I personally knew the individuals who are the topics of this conversation.
And please notice that I did not use the term "accuse' in the about sentence, simply due to the fact that steroid used 'accusations" back then were unheard of.
Nor was the use of roads back then ever considered to be as dispicable as many road free individuals considerable it to be today.
Back then the use of steroids was not a felony and not even frowned upon.
The only reason why roid use was disliked back then was that those who used them had an advantage over those who did.
And those outside the 'lifting world' could care less simply due to the fact that it was of no concern to them or they simply knew nothing about them.
The only thing I ever heard Vince complain about was squatting.
Larry squatted elsewhere while Vince expounded on the benefits of protein ... the when, the where, and the how it should be 'taken'.
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Funk I think you will find that the picture of the black guy you posted is a young Sergio Oliva when he had hair. It's certainly not the old rambling guy in that video.
this just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about in this thread
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this just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about in this thread
i guess some people all look the same to you ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::),,,,,, the guy i pic'd is definitely the guy in the video when he was younger......
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Funk I think you will find that the picture of the black guy you posted is a young Sergio Oliva when he had hair. It's certainly not the old rambling guy in that video.
here's leroy at 19 years of age..
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i guess some people all look the same to you ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::),,,,,, the guy i pic'd is definitely the guy in the video when he was younger......
read sho i quoted ;)
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i guess some people all look the same to you ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::),,,,,, the guy i pic'd is definitely the guy in the video when he was younger......
Great pics of Sergio. You can see he was more ripped in his pre steroid days in the bottom picture in the late 1950's but really blew up on D Ball in the top pic which I think is like 1972.
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Great pics of Sergio. You can see he was more ripped in his pre steroid days in the bottom picture in the late 1950's but really blew up on D Ball in the top pic which I think is like 1972.
you actually think that all of these pics are of sergio oliva???????????????????????????
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Scott only took dianabol after he won the 66 Olympia. This is why Vince threw him out his gym and Larry retired and didn't compete in 67 as he couldn't build natural muscle without Vince and the dianabol didn't compensate for Vince's glandulars and advanced multi side muscle building techniques.
Learn some history dumbass.
Actually, he took one look at Sergio Oliva and saw the writing on the wall. Said this himself.
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Funk I think you will find that the picture of the black guy you posted is a young Sergio Oliva when he had hair. It's certainly not the old rambling guy in that video.
You should maybe take a peek at the picture again.. It pretty clearly says Leroy Colbert. You are making yourself look stupid man. You cant possibly know anything about the history of BB and have no clue who Leroy was / is...
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Funk I think you will find that the picture of the black guy you posted is a young Sergio Oliva when he had hair. It's certainly not the old rambling guy in that video.
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Why don't you just give it up?? Leroy Colbert, the man in the video had 1 million % better physique than you will EVER have, and he personally knew Larry!!!
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pic of leroy colbert with tom sansone curling 105...in each hand
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Can`t believe some of you are falling for this,Big Al has shown over the years he has a very good knowledge of the history of the sport,he is just having a laugh.
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Can`t believe some of you are falling for this,Big Al has shown over the years he has a very good knowledge of the history of the sport,he is just having a laugh.
Awwww Crownshep >:(
I was just about to reveal that when Sergio first swam from Cuba to escape communism he picked the name Leroy Colbert because he thought it sounded American.
Joe Weider thought Leroy was too uncle Tomish so he picked the name Sergio Oliva and got him to change his name, shave his head and reinvent himself.
Wonder how many would have scrambled to prove me wrong and call me a fool ...... :D
Oh and I know Larry was a Dbol freak. :P
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Awwww Crownshep >:(
I was just about to reveal that when Sergio first swam from Cuba to escape communism he picked the name Leroy Colbert because he thought it sounded American.
Joe Weider thought Leroy was too uncle Tomish so he picked the name Sergio Oliva and got him to change his name, shave his head and reinvent himself.
Wonder how many would have scrambled to prove me wrong and call me a fool ...... :D
Oh and I know Larry was a Dbol freak. :P
LMAO ;D
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Awwww Crownshep >:(
I was just about to reveal that when Sergio first swam from Cuba to escape communism he picked the name Leroy Colbert because he thought it sounded American.
Joe Weider thought Leroy was too uncle Tomish so he picked the name Sergio Oliva and got him to change his name, shave his head and reinvent himself.
Wonder how many would have scrambled to prove me wrong and call me a fool ...... :D
Oh and I know Larry was a Dbol freak. :P
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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you actually think that all of these pics are of sergio oliva???????????????????????????
lol @ middle pic...even Sergio stuffed his trunks with a sock by the look of it.....wtf??? (no homo)
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:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Funk thanks for posting the great pics of Leroy. There is no doubt that Leroy was way ahead of everyone else in the 1950's , an absolute genetic freak and a more impressive physique than Sergio a decade later. If it wasn't for his accident he would have wiped the floor with Park, Pearl and the other top guys in the later 50's to mid 60's. He also seemed to be the one guy who Joe Weider actually liked and treated as a friend rather than an exploited meal ticket like he did with all the others. His youtube films are great.
Sorry for the wind up but being semi retired I have too much time on my hands.
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Funk thanks for posting the great pics of Leroy. There is no doubt that Leroy was way ahead of everyone else in the 1950's , an absolute genetic freak and a more impressive physique than Sergio a decade later. If it wasn't for his accident he would have wiped the floor with Park, Pearl and the other top guys in the later 50's to mid 60's. He also seemed to be the one guy who Joe Weider actually liked and treated as a friend rather than an exploited meal ticket like he did with all the others. His youtube films are great.
Sorry for the wind up but being semi retired I have too much time on my hands.
that's ok just didn't want to lead the younguns astray.....i don't take anything too seriousely on here either.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D that's a good point about leroy he could have given the big names of that era nightmares of couse same could have said about arthur harris but that didn't happen either.
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harris couldn't even win the aau mr. america, he'd win most muscular and come in down the list for the overall.
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Dam. Look at that shelf Colbert's upper chest makes. Also, long time ago, prolly 25 years ago I was shopping in this mall in some clothing store. I was jacked n young back then. So this black girl who works there started talking to me asking me about lifting etc. She says she either had a famous dad or grandpa but I prolly never heard of him. I swear it was dad but my menory is fading. She was trying to do modeling n was very pretty. So anyway she says his name was Leroy Colbert. It was cool because I knew who he was so she was happy I'd heard of him. Pretty gay story but I forgot all about that incident until this thread.
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Scott only took dianabol after he won the 66 Olympia. This is why Vince threw him out his gym and Larry retired and didn't compete in 67 as he couldn't build natural muscle without Vince and the dianabol didn't compensate for Vince's glandulars and advanced multi side muscle building techniques.
Learn some history dumbass.
That isn't exactly true from what I heard. He stopped taking dianabol because it conflicted with his Mormon religion and he also felt like a fraud because he looked nothing like his pictures without the drugs. It had nothing to do with Vince. Horworth, Scott, and every well known champion out of Vince's was a user.
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Awwww Crownshep >:(
I was just about to reveal that when Sergio first swam from Cuba to escape communism he picked the name Leroy Colbert because he thought it sounded American.
Joe Weider thought Leroy was too uncle Tomish so he picked the name Sergio Oliva and got him to change his name, shave his head and reinvent himself.
Wonder how many would have scrambled to prove me wrong and call me a fool ...... :D
Oh and I know Larry was a Dbol freak. :P
Haha,i let you have 4 pages worth of wind up mate. ;D ;D ;D
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Dam. Look at that shelf Colbert's upper chest makes. Also, long time ago, prolly 25 years ago I was shopping in this mall in some clothing store. I was jacked n young back then. So this black girl who works there started talking to me asking me about lifting etc. She says she either had a famous dad or grandpa but I prolly never heard of him. I swear it was dad but my menory is fading. She was trying to do modeling n was very pretty. So anyway she says his name was Leroy Colbert. It was cool because I knew who he was so she was happy I'd heard of him. Pretty gay story but I forgot all about that incident until this thread.
leroy colbert in his health food store w wife jackie in first pic...
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I knew Vince and I knew Larry and I was in Vince's Gym more than a few times, I can't say who did or who did not take steroids back in them good old days because I never watch anyone ingest them or shoot them up ..... but I personally knew the individuals who are the topics of this conversation.
And please notice that I did not use the term "accuse' in the about sentence, simply due to the fact that steroid used 'accusations" back then were unheard of.
Nor was the use of roads back then ever considered to be as dispicable as many road free individuals considerable it to be today.
Back then the use of steroids was not a felony and not even frowned upon.
The only reason why roid use was disliked back then was that those who used them had an advantage over those who did.
And those outside the 'lifting world' could care less simply due to the fact that it was of no concern to them or they simply knew nothing about them.
The only thing I ever heard Vince complain about was squatting.
Larry squatted elsewhere while Vince expounded on the benefits of protein ... the when, the where, and the how it should be 'taken'.
"Not even frowned upon"? Bullshit....Then why did they all lie about it? They knew they were phonies..
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"Not even frowned upon"? Bullshit....Then why did they all lie about it? They knew they were phonies..
they didn't want to give the secret away.... this was done for several reasons, but mostlythat if everyone would take it they would have to up the dosages to stay ahead of everyone even then they were aware of the health risks associated with these magic beans....
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they didn't want to give the secret away.... this was done for several reasons, but mostlythat if everyone would take it they would have to up the dosages to stay ahead of everyone even then they were aware of the health risks associated with these magic beans....
I suspect it was also so that Gironda & co. could attribute their results/success to the training methods and supplements they just happened to be selling to the public.
Maybe had they been selling D-bol instead, it would have been a different story.
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I suspect it was also so that Gironda & co. could attribute their results/success to the training methods and supplements they just happened to be selling to the public.
Maybe had they been selling D-bol instead, it would have been a different story.
just like gironda knocked nautilus machines so he won't have to buy any for his gym....