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Title: Country of peace...
Post by: NordicNerd on October 04, 2015, 10:27:23 AM
Give guns to the teachers says Trump....
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Stephano on October 04, 2015, 10:45:40 AM
The murder rate in South Africa is stratospheric.  It's like a warzone.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/south-africa-a-country-at-war-as-rate-soars-to-nearly-49-a-day

What does the USA have in common with South Africa -- which no other nation on that list, besides perhaps France, shares with it?  (A large population of dindu nuffins, that's what.)

Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: bradistani on October 04, 2015, 10:53:15 AM
iceland: population 36
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: The Scott on October 04, 2015, 10:54:28 AM
Give guns to the teachers says Trump....

So then, what do we have here?  Another reason for libtards of other cuntrys (I spelled it that for a purposeful reason) to stay the hades out of my world.  Don't want a gun, don't buy one.

I don't own one myself but I support the right of legal citizens of the greatest nation ever seen on this planet of pulchritude to bear arms.  Lord but do some people want the rest of the world to suffer along with them or what?

Sam Kinison was wrong.  Don't move these fifth world turds to where the food is, leave 'em be.  
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: MAXX on October 04, 2015, 10:55:58 AM
iceland: population 36
the statistics is per capita moron
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: NordicNerd on October 04, 2015, 11:18:56 AM
So then, what do we have here?  Another reason for libtards of other cuntrys (I spelled it that for a purposeful reason) to stay the hades out of my world.  Don't want a gun, don't buy one.

I don't own one myself but I support the right of legal citizens of the greatest nation ever seen on this planet of pulchritude to bear arms.  Lord but do some people want the rest of the world to suffer along with them or what?

Sam Kinison was wrong.  Don't move these fifth world turds to where the food is, leave 'em be.  

There is much to admire about the US. Don't get me wrong. But you have a problem with violence and crime.

NN
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: The Scott on October 04, 2015, 11:22:40 AM
There is much to admire about the US. Don't get me wrong. But you have a problem with violence and crime.

NN

I don't.  Some do.  That's worldwide and especially so in primitive lands filled with practitioners of Islam.  As I said, I don't own a gun.  My two living brothers do but I cannot hit a paper bag from ten feet away with one.  This causes them to laugh hysterically and I can't blame them.  ;D

Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 04, 2015, 11:38:13 AM
There is much to admire about the US. Don't get me wrong. But you have a problem with violence and crime.

NN

Do we have the numbers on how many of those murders and violent crimes are Hebrew on Hebrew crimes?
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 04, 2015, 11:51:21 AM
America is a big country...America has guns behind almost every lawn..would rather have a few more deaths per 100,000 people and be very protected in the case of a land invasion rather than having just as many guns circulating through the community illegally but not put to good use..
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Never1AShow on October 04, 2015, 11:55:07 AM
America is a big country...America has guns behind almost every lawn..would rather have a few more deaths per 100,000 people and be very protected in the case of a land invasion rather than having just as many guns circulating through the community illegally but not put to good use..

It is a shockingly low number considering we have about 90 guns per every 100 people.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Parker on October 04, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
There is much to admire about the US. Don't get me wrong. But you have a problem with violence and crime.

NN
Because we refuse to acknowledge that there is something wrong with US, the American people.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Mawse on October 04, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
Because we refuse to acknowledge that there is something wrong with US, the American people.

There's nothing wrong with the "American people" , it's the 13% of our population and the imported 3rd worlders who commit almost all the violent crime.

Get rid of them and we'd be below most European countries in the stats

Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: GigantorX on October 04, 2015, 12:23:32 PM
There is much to admire about the US. Don't get me wrong. But you have a problem with violence and crime.

NN

Crime? "Crime" violent or otherwise has been on a steady decline for over 10-15 years.

Crime-wise, America is quite safe.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Stephano on October 04, 2015, 12:25:44 PM
There's nothing wrong with the "American people" , it's the 13% of our population and the imported 3rd worlders who commit almost all the violent crime.

Get rid of them and we'd be below most European countries in the stats



x2. 

"The American People" are not the problem. 
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2015, 12:35:25 PM
Crime? "Crime" violent or otherwise has been on a steady decline for over 10-15 years.

Crime-wise, America is quite safe.

Violent crime has decreased since the 90's in the USA. But compared to other countries, we are still high. You have to look at crime in relative and absolute terms.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: calfzilla on October 04, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
There's nothing wrong with the "American people" , it's the 13% of our population and the imported 3rd worlders who commit almost all the violent crime.

Get rid of them and we'd be below most European countries in the stats



I believe I read in another thread if you minus all the hebrew on hebrew shooting in just a couple cities like Chicago and DC where guns are illegal, then our rate is one of the lowest in the world.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 04, 2015, 12:45:24 PM
the statistics is per capita moron


Maybe but the demographic by population is as much the issue as anything. Nice USA Today level chart.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: BB on October 04, 2015, 12:52:42 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQXuEzgUsAQRKUK.jpg:large).

Not all that horrible for most groups all things considered. If you take out the drug and gang related homicides, I'm sure the rates drop dramatically for blacks and latins too. Suicides are a non starter, simply because they'll usually just switch methods.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: calfzilla on October 04, 2015, 12:59:35 PM
I guess the bottom line is the liberals will manipulate stats to make it appear the avg person should fear guns.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Conker on October 04, 2015, 01:02:03 PM
Give guns to the teachers says Trump....

that's a bit below the belt to use a chart that only compares economically similar developed nations. where are the 3rd world countries that have way higher gun murder rates?!
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Parker on October 04, 2015, 01:32:31 PM
There's nothing wrong with the "American people" , it's the 13% of our population and the imported 3rd worlders who commit almost all the violent crime.

Get rid of them and we'd be below most European countries in the stats


It is the something wrong with the American PEOPLE.
Marriages falling apart, everybody at each other's necks. Men being emasculated, women becoming more masculine. Everybody is entitled, along with everybody is a victim. People want to be victims and whiners instead of victors. The Baby Boomers did a complete work on their kids. Quality is abhorred.

Hell, take a look at bbing. We have all said time and time again that th quality of bbing has gone down hill. Take a look around you, that pretty much goes for almost all sports in a sense. Bodybuilding is a microcosm of today's world and culture---our selfishness and narcissism expressed.

We want to deny what is going on before our own eyes.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: NordicNerd on October 04, 2015, 02:08:25 PM
Crime? "Crime" violent or otherwise has been on a steady decline for over 10-15 years.

Crime-wise, America is quite safe.

But a large part of the population is incarcerated. Actually, the US is world leading in incarcerating its own citizens.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.svg/800px-Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.svg.png)

NN
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: calfzilla on October 04, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
But a large part of the population is incarcerated. Actually, the US is world leading in incarcerating its own citizens.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.svg/800px-Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.svg.png)

NN


If you met some of our citizens you would understand.  :-X
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: The Scott on October 04, 2015, 02:10:16 PM
But a large part of the population is incarcerated. Actually, the US is world leading in incarcerating its own citizens.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.svg/800px-Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.svg.png)

NN


Good.  I don't want them out and about.  If you think otherwise, lets call 'em muslim immigrants and export them to your country!  ;D
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Voice of Doom on October 04, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Freedom is dangerous. 
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: The Ugly on October 04, 2015, 02:16:52 PM
If you met some of our citizens you would understand.  :-X

And not a single one guilty of anything, ask 'em.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 04, 2015, 02:22:03 PM
another shitty country of peace:


(https://inbruttium.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/albanian_flag_by_mondig.png)
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Never1AShow on October 04, 2015, 04:11:52 PM
But a large part of the population is incarcerated. Actually, the US is world leading in incarcerating its own citizens.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.svg/800px-Prisoner_population_rate_world_map.svg.png)

NN


It's a good start but nowhere near the number that need to be incarcerated or locked up so they can be taken care of due to mental illness.  That number is about 5 percent of the population.  So in a country of 330 million that is about 16 million.  What do we lock up now, something like a million?  Seriously a significant portion of the population are degenerates and crazy.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 04, 2015, 05:25:55 PM
Why does Obama never talk about gun murder stats in Chicago? A place with tough gun laws and hebrews killing hebrews like nobodies business...
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Hulkotron on October 04, 2015, 05:32:11 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQXuEzgUsAQRKUK.jpg:large).

Not all that horrible for most groups all things considered. If you take out the drug and gang related homicides, I'm sure the rates drop dramatically for blacks and latins too. Suicides are a non starter, simply because they'll usually just switch methods.

Why would you do this ???
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: BB on October 04, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Why would you do this ???

That chart is murder across all modus operandi involving firearms. From what I've seen over the years, is that much of the murder rate in the black (and to a lesser degree, the latin) neighborhoods is tied to the drug trade and in turn, gangs. I'm sure that if we took those two forces out of the equation, the rates among regular black folks would become more palatable, and drop our overall rate of firearms violence as a nation.

On a personal level, I usually discount suicides, firearms deaths while in commission of another crime, and intra family domestic violence (much like with suicides, the perpetrators will usually just switch methods if no firearm is available) when looking at these statistics. Once they're out of the picture, the "gun problem" really isn't a big deal, especially when balanced against population and personal freedoms.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 04, 2015, 06:07:40 PM
First off, we have guns in our country, so of course there are more gun related homicides. Second, aren't you from one of those countries in Europe who's women have totally emasculated the men, thus becoming not sexually attracted to them, and now they import third world moslems to fill the void and the vagina? Get your own affairs in order before you call us out on ours. Or, I'll fucking shoot you. ;D
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Hulkotron on October 04, 2015, 06:15:55 PM
That chart is murder across all modus operandi involving firearms. From what I've seen over the years, is that much of the murder rate in the black (and to a lesser degree, the latin) neighborhoods is tied to the drug trade and in turn, gangs. I'm sure that if we took those two forces out of the equation, the rates among regular black folks would become more palatable, and drop our overall rate of firearms violence as a nation.

Okay but so would the rates for every other race if you did the same thing for them.

I still don't follow why murders related to drugs and gangs shouldn't count in stats like this, unless that's not your argument and I'm misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: SquidVicious on October 04, 2015, 06:22:55 PM
Why does Obama never talk about gun murder stats in Chicago? A place with tough gun laws and hebrews killing hebrews like nobodies business...
It's never about the problem behind the guns. It's always those pesky little runaway guns causing all the trouble.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: BB on October 04, 2015, 06:37:24 PM
Okay but so would the rates for every other race if you did the same thing for them.

Sure, but it would probably count for a lot less of the overall numbers for other groups than it would with blacks.

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I still don't follow why murders related to drugs and gangs shouldn't count in stats like this, unless that's not your argument and I'm misunderstanding.

Sure, it should count, but I'd also discount it somewhat, because it is the the type of crime that usually won't affect normal folks. If drug dealer x kills drug dealer y, it shouldn't really bother anyone, it's the cost of doing business in those circles. Likewise, suicides, and domestics  are going to happen regardless of firearms avaliablity.

I guess the thrust of my thought is that when looking at these statics, you should just narrow it down to the types of gun violence that might have a reasonable chance to affect you. If you look at it that way, your average American (of all colors) has little to fear.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: NordicNerd on October 05, 2015, 02:19:59 AM
It's a good start but nowhere near the number that need to be incarcerated or locked up so they can be taken care of due to mental illness.  That number is about 5 percent of the population.  So in a country of 330 million that is about 16 million.  What do we lock up now, something like a million?  Seriously a significant portion of the population are degenerates and crazy.

In 2008, 2.8 million incarcerated according to Wikipedia.

This is bad for many reasons:
a) Prisons are expensive
b) The incarcerated do not contribute to the workforce
c) Children grow up without a parent
d) Incarceration leads to more contact with other criminals and thus build networks- especially bad for young, first-time offenders
e) Incarceration may hamper rehabilitation

Some ethnical groups are incarcerated to a degree that it looks like a civil war in the US- a war against its own citizens.

NN
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: NordicNerd on October 05, 2015, 02:25:56 AM
First off, we have guns in our country, so of course there are more gun related homicides. Second, aren't you from one of those countries in Europe who's women have totally emasculated the men, thus becoming not sexually attracted to them, and now they import third world moslems to fill the void and the vagina? Get your own affairs in order before you call us out on ours. Or, I'll fucking shoot you. ;D

This is a scary way of thinking and does not accurately capture the situation. It is true that the worshippers of Mohammed have double standards regarding marriage outside their religion- i.e. it is ok for a man to marry an infidel, but not for a woman, but they usually stick to their own. I don't like Islam at all, but on the other hand, many US christians are equally twisted and brain-washed.

NN
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Yamcha on October 05, 2015, 02:35:50 AM
All of these graphs have no source references.

Looks like the same type of graphs anyone can make with Microsoft Office.

You guys need to Internet harder.  :D
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: BB on October 05, 2015, 05:06:12 AM
All of these graphs have no source references.

Looks like the same type of graphs anyone can make with Microsoft Office.

You guys need to Internet harder.  :D

Graph came from -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/02/white-men-are-twice-as-likely-to-die-from-a-gun-suicide-than-a-homicide-for-black-men-its-very-different/ .

Based on -

http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html .

This is an interesting search engine, much easier to use than reading through UCR's and other reports.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Parker on October 05, 2015, 06:17:30 AM
In 2008, 2.8 million incarcerated according to Wikipedia.

This is bad for many reasons:
a) Prisons are expensive
b) The incarcerated do not contribute to the workforce
c) Children grow up without a parent
d) Incarceration leads to more contact with other criminals and thus build networks- especially bad for young, first-time offenders
e) Incarceration may hamper rehabilitation

Some ethnical groups are incarcerated to a degree that it looks like a civil war in the US- a war against its own citizens.

NN
You forgot one thing. Incarceration is big business. America doesn't manufacturer that much, so we have become more service oriented. And we "create" more criminals, which in turn creates more "service" jobs (US Criminal Justice System). Crime pays, it has become a booming business . Companies that build jails trade on the stock market.
Look in an American yellow pages or Google criminal attorneys---there are millions of them. Probably more than the amount of the people incarcerated.
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Overload on October 05, 2015, 11:21:21 AM
It is the something wrong with the American PEOPLE.
Marriages falling apart, everybody at each other's necks. Men being emasculated, women becoming more masculine. Everybody is entitled, along with everybody is a victim. People want to be victims and whiners instead of victors. The Baby Boomers did a complete work on their kids. Quality is abhorred.

Hell, take a look at bbing. We have all said time and time again that th quality of bbing has gone down hill. Take a look around you, that pretty much goes for almost all sports in a sense. Bodybuilding is a microcosm of today's world and culture---our selfishness and narcissism expressed.

We want to deny what is going on before our own eyes.

Exactly.


8)
Title: Re: Country of peace...
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 05, 2015, 05:36:04 PM
This is a scary way of thinking and does not accurately capture the situation. It is true that the worshippers of Mohammed have double standards regarding marriage outside their religion- i.e. it is ok for a man to marry an infidel, but not for a woman, but they usually stick to their own. I don't like Islam at all, but on the other hand, many US christians are equally twisted and brain-washed.

NN

You're wrong if you think Christian fundies are as fucked up as even moderate moslems.