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Title: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Al Doggity on October 08, 2015, 07:17:41 PM
... could you be a pro bodybuilder?  Bodybuilder, that is.

Do you think you have the structure? Could you commit to the diet and training? Do you think diet and training even matter?
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: muscularny on October 08, 2015, 07:24:53 PM
Rest is key, the more you rest the better, hope you like my advices
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Al Doggity on October 08, 2015, 07:28:01 PM
Rest is key, the more you rest the better, hope you like my advices

LOL Oh, no. I don't need advices. I could be Mr. Olympia if I really wanted to be. I just wanted to see if anyone else was as genetically elite and disciplined as I could be if I really wanted to be.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: wes on October 08, 2015, 07:30:41 PM
Anybody would be nuts to have to pin themselves 50 or more times a week.


Christ,I hate taking two shots a week.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Wiggs on October 08, 2015, 07:31:00 PM
... could you be a pro bodybuilder?  Bodybuilder, that is.

Do you think you have the structure? Could you commit to the diet and training? Do you think diet and training even matter?


All of it matters diet, training, rest, drugs, willpower and consistency.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: TheShape. on October 08, 2015, 07:40:12 PM
If I could (but I couldn't and wouldn't ) take all the best steroids in the world, I'd say I would come close, I have a better structure than most of these modern pros. But that would be essentially suicide on this day and age.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: ESFitness on October 08, 2015, 07:41:31 PM
drugs arn't the difference maker...

your response to the drugs, no matter the dosage is what seperates "pros and non-pros".
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: _aj_ on October 09, 2015, 03:39:36 AM
Too tall. And I am not a super responder. Decent response, but not special.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Simple Simon on October 09, 2015, 03:51:48 AM
drugs arn't the difference maker...

your response to the drugs, no matter the dosage is what seperates "pros and non-pros".
this.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: bigmc on October 09, 2015, 03:55:57 AM
genetics and structure plus drug response equals mister Olympia

any of the above are missing no deal
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2015, 03:59:08 AM
Harley said it best. You have to be a super responder to drugs. 3 grams of gear will have a widely varied effect on individuals. Just like you have to be a super responder to training. I'm sure those who were part of the crowd that was into weight lifting as a kid noticed how some responded so much better than others.

Another factor that is only not even considered is the ability to eat vast amounts of food. This is a lot harder than it seems because most people like to eat and are fat. Being 5'9" 8% and weighing 275 lbs isn't gong to happen on 4,000 calories a day now matter how much hormones you are on. Eating 6-8 times a day isn't easy. Jay, in one of his DVDS said he was eating 10 times per day and had to set his alarm to go off twice during the night so he could get up and eat. The late Trevor Smith who was pushing 400 lbs said he was amazed at Jay's ability to eat.

Top pros are the genetic elite. Not everyone can be a top pro no matter what they do.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: robcguns on October 09, 2015, 04:05:29 AM
... could you be a pro bodybuilder?  Bodybuilder, that is.

Do you think you have the structure? Could you commit to the diet and training? Do you think diet and training even matter?


i could commit to it but definitely dont have the structure or genetics.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 09, 2015, 04:11:14 AM
my lat insertions are too high and I am not sure my glutes would look aesthetic if they were really ripped (no homo)
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 09, 2015, 04:17:30 AM
Anybody would be nuts to have to pin themselves 50 or more times a week.


Christ,I hate taking two shots a week.
:o
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: SuperTed on October 09, 2015, 04:29:51 AM
I believe that the concept of the pro's having such incredible genetics is vastly overstated.

Having said that, I wouldn't be able to go pro even if I had a great response to drugs since I don't have the structure for it. Could possibly do well in some lesser shows though.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: da_vinci on October 09, 2015, 04:30:53 AM
I'm a small boned, but decently shaped, could go either way. Not too wide, but can create a good illusion of width because of my tiny waist. Do not accumulate fat at all, so lean regardless of how much I eat. Overall - I'd have a shot to be Ed Nunn or something along these lines, but I'd never want to take that route of massive drug abuse.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: CalvinH on October 09, 2015, 04:35:07 AM
No
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: phreak on October 09, 2015, 04:43:32 AM
Pro:
Very wide shoulders, build muscle easily, response to AAS seems to be very good.

Con:
Very wide hips, build fat easily, despise dieting.


So yes, I'd do all right in the current IFBB.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: calfzilla on October 09, 2015, 04:50:48 AM
Pro:
Very wide shoulders, build muscle easily, response to AAS seems to be very good.

Con:
Very wide hips, build fat easily, despise dieting.


So yes, I'd do all right in the current IFBB.

As long as you can grow a gut and have large muscles with no seperation and zero detail you will do just fine in the pros.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: goku on October 09, 2015, 05:04:16 AM
Harley said it best. You have to be a super responder to drugs. 3 grams of gear will have a widely varied effect on individuals. Just like you have to be a super responder to training. I'm sure those who were part of the crowd that was into weight lifting as a kid noticed how some responded so much better than others.

Another factor that is only not even considered is the ability to eat vast amounts of food. This is a lot harder than it seems because most people like to eat and are fat. Being 5'9" 8% and weighing 275 lbs isn't gong to happen on 4,000 calories a day now matter how much hormones you are on. Eating 6-8 times a day isn't easy. Jay, in one of his DVDS said he was eating 10 times per day and had to set his alarm to go off twice during the night so he could get up and eat. The late Trevor Smith who was pushing 400 lbs said he was amazed at Jay's ability to eat.

Top pros are the genetic elite. Not everyone can be a top pro no matter what they do.

top pros are, not all or even most pros are the genetic elite though. many of them are average.

everyone keeps saying you have to be a super-saiyan responder, alien genetics etc
....no you don't.

who has built a decent foundation from AAS (everyone can) and then took it further?
a solid 12-18 months of progressive doses into the multiple gram range, gh at least 8ius and upwards, slin cycled but working up to most meals and pre/pwo
progressive calories + training (overload via poundage, volume, frequency, TUT etc)

^ anyone who does that can build a huge lean physique. structure, insertions etc is genetic but lean mass you can get with drugs if you're a shit responder or not.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: phreak on October 09, 2015, 05:04:25 AM
As long as you can grow a gut and have large muscles with no seperation and zero detail you will do just fine in the pros.

Good point, my muscles do run the risk of actually displaying splits, so that's something I'd need to work on. Getting on the Rich Piana protocol right away.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Disco187 on October 09, 2015, 06:10:28 AM
example

me and my friend in college had the same diet except i consumed more protein due to weight diff but training routine and sleep schedule supplement and drug , exact same


I am naturally a ectomorph and i am 6 foot 2

my friend mesomorph at 5 foot 7

he would pack on twice the amount of muscle then i would at a way faster rate aswell, his calves and forearms where from another planet and he never trained them.  I always said he had the genes for a bodybuilder but did not have the motivation and dedication,
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: V Man on October 09, 2015, 06:27:23 PM
If I started juicing at a young age, then I think I could have become pro. I'm glad I didn't though.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2015, 06:33:28 PM
Lots of could-be pros in this thread.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: V Man on October 09, 2015, 06:35:38 PM
Lots of could-be pros in this thread.

What do you expect? This is Getbig.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Lustral on October 09, 2015, 06:39:16 PM
... could you be a pro bodybuilder?  Bodybuilder, that is.

Do you think you have the structure? Could you commit to the diet and training? Do you think diet and training even matter?


Never. Tall, wide hips, long arms. Very long arms.

No matter what I do I'd never make inroads with modern judging.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Leatherneck on October 09, 2015, 06:40:01 PM
I've never used gear so I have no idea of how I'd response. However, if my natural response is an indicator, there is no chance.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Al Doggity on October 09, 2015, 07:05:00 PM
I've never used gear so I have no idea of how I'd response. However, if my natural response is an indicator, there is no chance.

When I posed the question, it was with the understanding that the more gear you take the more muscle you put on.  Obviously, people are free to answer it anyway they want, but it was notsomuch about whether you think you might respond well to gear, which is why I asked it in that particular. Let's assume that drug use and response put you on an a pro-level playing field; once that's out of the way, do you think there's anything else that would keep you from doing damage as a pro? Could you consume the necessary amount of food and stick to your diet? Do you train consistently now?
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Nether Animal on October 09, 2015, 07:07:33 PM
Never. Tall, wide hips, long arms. Very long arms.


That's me too. You just defined my build to a "T."
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Lustral on October 09, 2015, 07:33:25 PM
That's me too. You just defined my build to a "T."

Who cares though. Wide hips are needed in real sport for centre of gravity. Noone outside our niche nit picking physique judging knows difference. Long arms mean better punch throw or catch.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: WOOO on October 09, 2015, 08:06:58 PM
... could you be a pro bodybuilder?  Bodybuilder, that is.

Do you think you have the structure? Could you commit to the diet and training? Do you think diet and training even matter?



My natural gay tendencies are not strong enough to bodybuild at any level. Heterosexuals will be the death of bodybuilding...
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: pellius on October 09, 2015, 10:03:24 PM
top pros are, not all or even most pros are the genetic elite though. many of them are average.

everyone keeps saying you have to be a super-saiyan responder, alien genetics etc
....no you don't.

who has built a decent foundation from AAS (everyone can) and then took it further?
a solid 12-18 months of progressive doses into the multiple gram range, gh at least 8ius and upwards, slin cycled but working up to most meals and pre/pwo
progressive calories + training (overload via poundage, volume, frequency, TUT etc)

^ anyone who does that can build a huge lean physique. structure, insertions etc is genetic but lean mass you can get with drugs if you're a shit responder or not.


A fella that I knew for years that really wanted to become a pro was at 8 grams a week, 100iu insulin, and 6iu Sero. You'd never know it.

Plus, he was bow legged. Structure is genetic as well.

He finally gave up the dream when he turn 35 and could never win the nationals.

You'd be surprise how many people are juicing hard in your local gym but you would never know. They're the ones who go from fat and bloated and pretty much back to where they started after they diet.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: sancho ed on October 09, 2015, 11:27:52 PM
Hey having parents that are under 5'5" and me being 6 feet is fine with me....but nah....my genetics suck when it comes to bodybuilding....
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 09, 2015, 11:30:43 PM
... could you be a pro bodybuilder?  Bodybuilder, that is.

Do you think you have the structure? Could you commit to the *debt* and training? Do you think diet and training even matter?

fixed
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: 240 is Back on October 09, 2015, 11:40:21 PM
Anybody would be nuts to have to pin themselves 50 or more times a week.


Christ,I hate taking two shots a week.

nubain helps
Lots of could-be pros in this thread.

most of us also ran 4.19 times in high school, but an undiagnosed knee injury kept us from trying out for the high school team and thus guaranteeing NFL riches.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: che on October 10, 2015, 07:31:13 PM
I would have taken at least  3rd place in this year Mr Olympia .

Here   a natural Che  destroying ''Flexatron''  ,oh brother .


Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Lustral on October 10, 2015, 07:34:55 PM
I would have taken at least  3rd place in this year Mr Olympia .

Here   a natural Che  destroying ''Flexatron''  ,oh brother .




Yeah but could your kidneys/liver/heart stand up to pro standard?

 ::)

Sadly that is a factor. RIP Don Youngblood.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: che on October 10, 2015, 07:37:42 PM
Yeah but could your kidneys/liver/heart stand up to pro standard?


Yes
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Master Blaster on October 10, 2015, 09:50:52 PM
Bottom pro   vs top pro  = HUGE margin

Anyone ripped enough could be a bottom feeding pro
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: calfzilla on October 10, 2015, 11:09:56 PM
I would have taken at least  3rd place in this year Mr Olympia .

Here   a natural Che  destroying ''Flexatron''  ,oh brother .




You look like a chocolate face in this pic.
Title: Re: If you were willing to go balls out with drugs...
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 11, 2015, 02:41:59 AM
Bottom pro   vs top pro  = HUGE margin

Anyone ripped enough could be a bottom feeding pro
I don't know I think people think that anyone can just turn pro if they dedicate themselves for a year or two...especially in bodybuilding this isn't true at all...lots of people who are going to be future stars you will most likely have to beat out and be better than at some point if you put it in perspective