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Title: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Set It Up on October 09, 2015, 03:11:35 PM
In Musclecentres thread I read he doesnt do cardio, he does high rep squats as cardio. Does this really work? If so how many reps and how many sets are considered cardio? I obviously need to lose weight and am doing a shit ton of cardio, but am curious about this as I love to squat. Appreciate answers
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: HTexan on October 09, 2015, 03:13:11 PM
In Musclecentres thread I read he doesnt do cardio, he does high rep squats as cardio. Does this really work? If so how many reps and how many sets are considered cardio? I obviously need to lose weight and am doing a shit ton of cardio, but am curious about this as I love to squat. Appreciate answers
circuit training?
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: The True Adonis on October 09, 2015, 03:19:03 PM
In Musclecentres thread I read he doesnt do cardio, he does high rep squats as cardio. Does this really work? If so how many reps and how many sets are considered cardio? I obviously need to lose weight and am doing a shit ton of cardio, but am curious about this as I love to squat. Appreciate answers
All you really gotta do is just focus on total calories and getting and then remaining in a caloric deficit.  Nothing else matters really.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Marty Champions on October 09, 2015, 03:24:19 PM
In Musclecentres thread I read he doesnt do cardio, he does high rep squats as cardio. Does this really work? If so how many reps and how many sets are considered cardio? I obviously need to lose weight and am doing a shit ton of cardio, but am curious about this as I love to squat. Appreciate answers
you will build great quads and be more hungry and put weight on if done5days a week
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Mawse on October 09, 2015, 03:27:28 PM
Cardio for the heart health right, not weight loss?

Doing 8x8 with 225 and short rest is pretty fucking brutal and will have your heart rate trough the roof but squats are really technical and if your form breaks down (which it might do with so many reps) it's easy to get hurt in such a fatigued state

Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Marty Champions on October 09, 2015, 03:29:09 PM
Cardio for the heart health right, not weight loss?

Doing 8x8 with 225 and short rest is pretty fucking brutal and will have your heart rate trough the roof but squats are really technical and if your form breaks down (which it might do with so many reps) it's easy to get hurt in such a fatigued state


x2
That would be brutal no  more than 90 sec rest
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Nick Danger on October 09, 2015, 03:32:24 PM
Walking lunges with a bar on your shoulders is way better IMO. Way more taxing than high rep squats...
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Set It Up on October 09, 2015, 03:37:43 PM
All you really gotta do is just focus on total calories and getting and then remaining in a caloric deficit.  Nothing else matters really.

Im gonna pm you what Im eating
I really like it and find it super easy to stick to

last time i followed what you told me I went from 275 to 252 and then gave up  :( :-\
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Set It Up on October 09, 2015, 03:38:32 PM
Walking lunges with a bar on your shoulders is way better IMO. Way more taxing than high rep squats...

I train in my basement so im limited on space
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Marty Champions on October 09, 2015, 03:42:06 PM
Im gonna pm you what Im eating
I really like it and find it super easy to stick to

last time i followed what you told me I went from 275 to 252 and then gave up  :( :-\
you needed the extra calories  natural human nature is to gain not lose learn to follow a natural craving to grow
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Set It Up on October 09, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
you needed the extra calories  natural human nature is to gain not lose learn to follow a natural craving to grow

i dont get cravings since i started eating this way and i stick to it big time--in nearly 60 days i cheated 4 times and thats it --- this is EXACTLY what I eat everyday --its sbland but I genuinely like it --- I cook the vegetables in 1 tbsp ghee --i hate spices, sauces and salts

1. steak and sweet potato

2. chicken and usually asparagus or zucchini

3. chicken and mixed vegetables

4. 2 beef patties or steak or chicken and mixed veggies or small sweet potato

5. 4 squares 90% lindt dark chocolate

i drink a ton of water and absolutely no other liquid
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: illuminati on October 09, 2015, 03:48:55 PM
Im gonna pm you what Im eating
I really like it and find it super easy to stick to

last time i followed what you told me I went from 275 to 252 and then gave up  :( :-\














If you had success with what he had you do.
Stick with it.

Don't make what you do to complicated.
Listen to one Person only if you like- agree with what they
Say & Give Them / Their advice a fair crack & time to work.

If you ask to many people likely you'll end up going not very far.
As it's often contradictory & or confusing.

PM for Advice.
 ;)

Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Marty Champions on October 09, 2015, 03:51:58 PM
You just contradicted
i dont get cravings since i started eating this way and i stick to it big time--in nearly 60 days i cheated 4 times and thats it --- this is EXACTLY what I eat everyday --its sbland but I genuinely like it --- I cook the vegetables in 1 tbsp ghee --i hate spices, sauces and salts

1. steak and sweet potato

2. chicken and usually asparagus or zucchini

3. chicken and mixed vegetables

4. 2 beef patties or steak or chicken and mixed veggies or small sweet potato

5. 4 squares 90% lindt dark chocolate

i drink a ton of water and absolutely no other liquid
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Set It Up on October 09, 2015, 03:53:20 PM
You just contradicted

there were no cravings
it was food brought into the house so i ate it cause it was there---more stupidity than cravings
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Marty Champions on October 09, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
there were no cravings
it was food brought into the house so i ate it cause it was there---more stupidity than cravings
the food craved you works both ways . Try to be more stupid when good food is around works better than trying to outsmart it
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 09, 2015, 04:06:22 PM
Weighted Squats hit the anaerobic, glycogen system, hard.

Once a week, I do a long, slow jog of about five or six miles at an aerobic pace. At no point am I gassed.

Also, once a week, I do a five set squat routine: 20, 15x2, 12x2. By the end of the forth set, my mind is looking for excuses to not do the fifth. At the end of the fifth set, I'm completely blow up.

That said, squats won't help you with running. No matter how much you squat, if you don't run, you'll be gassed by 1/4 mile.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Set It Up on October 09, 2015, 04:08:54 PM
Weighted Squats hit the anaerobic, glycogen system, hard.

Once a week, I do a long, slow jog of about five or six miles at an aerobic pace. At no point am I gassed.

Also, once a week, I do a five set squat routine: 20, 15x2, 12x2. By the end of the forth set, my mind is looking for excuses to not do the fifth. At the end of the fifth set, I'm completely blow up.

That said, squats won't help you with running. No matter how much you squat, if you don't run, you'll be gassed by 1/4 mile.

on day 1 I couldnt jog 30 seconds
now I can do a 12 minute mile, which I know isnt fast, but compared to 55 days ago its progress

I did 4 miles yesterday in 50 minutes
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: benchmstr on October 09, 2015, 04:10:32 PM
I would just stick with fasted masturbation

bench
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Set It Up on October 09, 2015, 04:12:11 PM
I would just stick with fasted masturbation

bench

youre telling that to a guy who cant get it up?

fail
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 09, 2015, 04:16:56 PM
on day 1 I couldnt jog 30 seconds
now I can do a 12 minute mile, which I know isnt fast, but compared to 55 days ago its progress

I did 4 miles yesterday in 50 minutes

Jogging isn't about going fast. It's about developing the aerobic system. For humans, run all day pace is about 10 minutes a mile.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Marty Champions on October 09, 2015, 04:21:03 PM
Joggin4 miles will put your appetite in overdrive the rest of the week
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2015, 04:33:40 PM
i dont get cravings since i started eating this way and i stick to it big time--in nearly 60 days i cheated 4 times and thats it --- this is EXACTLY what I eat everyday --its sbland but I genuinely like it --- I cook the vegetables in 1 tbsp ghee --i hate spices, sauces and salts

1. steak and sweet potato

2. chicken and usually asparagus or zucchini

3. chicken and mixed vegetables

4. 2 beef patties or steak or chicken and mixed veggies or small sweet potato

5. 4 squares 90% lindt dark chocolate

i drink a ton of water and absolutely no other liquid

This is a huge key to dieting imho.

So many fatsos drink a shitload of liquid-calories.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Leatherneck on October 09, 2015, 05:49:32 PM
I envy people who can do anaerobic things like squats for cardio.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Lustral on October 09, 2015, 06:04:37 PM
My body comp improved massively with high volume. I stopped squatting 3 years ago cos kept getting injured. Will do 60/70 reps easy every workout and on leg day i do 20-40+ reps (whatever i can do til i feel i will die/get trapped under weight) often for a few sets.

High rep squats overtaxed my lower back more than my legs though. Might work for some not for me. Same with deadlift. High reps means loss of concentration loss of form and risk or injury. Do what feels right and do it well.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Hulkotron on October 09, 2015, 06:07:12 PM
I stopped doing back squats about three years ago, they just never "felt" right and I would sometimes get very bad headaches after high-rep sets.

It is too bad, I really liked 20-rep squats.

Still do front squats though, once or twice a week.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 09, 2015, 06:26:20 PM
I stopped doing back squats about three years ago, they just never "felt" right and I would sometimes get very bad headaches after high-rep sets.

It is too bad, I really liked 20-rep squats.

Still do front squats though, once or twice a week.

The headache thing happened to me twice on leg day in my life. It scared me the first time it happened, as I was almost blinded. Crazy shit.

As far as squats for cardio, I'd think it would make sense. I always got more winded from squats than any other muscle. Intense back workouts were a distant second.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 09, 2015, 06:39:00 PM
The heavy breathing is a result of lactate buildup which has to be removed via increased blood circulation. This is anaerobic. During aerobic exercise your breathing is only slightly labored.

A squat done at a brisk pace takes about 2 seconds. So, even high rep squats don't take enough time for your aerobic system to take over from the anaerobic.

Squats are a great exercise for lower body development and overall toughness, but they're not aerobic.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: 2ND COMING on October 09, 2015, 07:01:49 PM
I do lunges for "conditioning".  ::)

It does get pretty f'ing brutal.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: WOOO on October 09, 2015, 07:09:10 PM
i dont get cravings since i started eating this way and i stick to it big time--in nearly 60 days i cheated 4 times and thats it --- this is EXACTLY what I eat everyday --its sbland but I genuinely like it --- I cook the vegetables in 1 tbsp ghee --i hate spices, sauces and salts

1. steak and sweet potato

2. chicken and usually asparagus or zucchini

3. chicken and mixed vegetables

4. 2 beef patties or steak or chicken and mixed veggies or small sweet potato

5. 4 squares 90% lindt dark chocolate

i drink a ton of water and absolutely no other liquid



I'd suggest finding something similar to what you can live with.

Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Set It Up on October 09, 2015, 07:10:47 PM


I'd suggest finding something similar to what you can live with.



I dont understand your comment.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: WOOO on October 10, 2015, 01:19:05 AM
I dont understand your comment.


Can you commit to a version of that diet forever?  If not you're likely to regain any lost weight.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 10, 2015, 01:27:46 AM
I envy people who can do anaerobic things like squats for cardio.

It's always a mix. The more reps you made, the more aerobic the movement becomes.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: local hero on October 10, 2015, 01:40:07 AM
The headache thing happened to me twice on leg day in my life. It scared me the first time it happened, as I was almost blinded. Crazy shit.

As far as squats for cardio, I'd think it would make sense. I always got more winded from squats than any other muscle. Intense back workouts were a distant second.

Happend to me a few times, pain in the back of my head/headaches, could actual feel a pulse banging away.. I usual cant strain for a few weeks after or it comes back, usualy a result of pushing too hard
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: cephissus on October 10, 2015, 04:15:16 AM
i used to be obsessed with keeping my heart rate up, breathing hard, etc. while lifting.

once i kept cardio (cycling) and lifting (heavier, more rest) separate, i started enjoying both a lot more.  in short, there's enough to focus on while lifting, without having to worry about getting "cardio" in as well.  i don't recommend it.

The headache thing happened to me twice on leg day in my life. It scared me the first time it happened, as I was almost blinded. Crazy shit.

As far as squats for cardio, I'd think it would make sense. I always got more winded from squats than any other muscle. Intense back workouts were a distant second.

i got these exertion headaches a couple times. i stopped eating a dozen eggs a day, and they went away.   not sure if related ;D

scary as hell... i went from being the most workout obsessed person on the planet to thinking "i'm going to have to take up running, i guess" in the span of about ten seconds.
Title: Re: Squats As Cardio
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 10, 2015, 05:34:31 AM
This is a pretty good short primer on energy systems.

http://sjdbh.ycdsb.ca/departments/PhysEd/0D4AEBEE-0119EDCC.8/09.Energy%20Systems%20of%20the%20Body%5B1%5D.pdf