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Title: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Submissionfytr on October 10, 2015, 05:49:46 PM
Anyone else indulge in benzos to "come down ," and get some sleep or relaxation? I used them for months but do to fear of addiction I'm giving them up. Still it's hard to just flush a klonopin and Xanax bars when they're not only expensive but hard to get.... Gonna try to go natural, maybe melatonin...
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: deadz on October 10, 2015, 08:48:55 PM
Very foolish to use benzos more than two days a week unless medically necessary.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: TheShape. on October 10, 2015, 08:58:35 PM
You are stupid
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Nether Animal on October 10, 2015, 09:37:24 PM
Very foolish to use benzos more than two days a week unless medically necessary.

Agreed. I have a friend who committed suicide due to his xanax withdrawal. And he survived being a heroin addict for 6 years. Benzos are scary shit.

Just smoke down!
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: da_vinci on October 11, 2015, 03:35:01 AM
You are doing something very wrong if you need benzos to "relax"...
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 11, 2015, 03:55:05 AM
Plenty of options, GABA, Phenibut (can  have withdrawal sides if not used properly), melatonin, etc.

Kinda pricy, but I hear this shite knocks you the feck out cold...

http://www.chaosandpain.com/hypnos-sleep-aid

Cant put a price on quality sleep IMO.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Tapeworm on October 11, 2015, 11:51:24 AM
Tryptophan?
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Necrosis on October 11, 2015, 12:16:49 PM
Listen to me, I know what I am actually talking about.  :D

Kava Kava, the powder, as close to a benzo as you can get, more like weed and opiates combined if taken at the right dosage etc

If not kava kava

High CBD, cannabidiol weed, or just high cannabidiol.

Try it.

Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Nether Animal on October 11, 2015, 12:21:40 PM
I tried gabapentin (neurontin) in huge doses along with smoking weed.

Great mix for general anxiety/restlessness and lowering inhibition a tad to become more social.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Jizmo on October 11, 2015, 12:39:47 PM
work out harder then youll automatically relax afterwards

phaggots

i understand if you take drugs to party, wire yourself up etc

but you need drugs to put your ass on the couch and watch TV?
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: warez4gold on October 11, 2015, 02:21:01 PM
i would rather take gabapentin than use benzos

don't do it though... don't take any of that shit for recreation or even anxiety. there are better medications out there to help those with anxiety disorders; ones that are safer with fewer side effects
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 11, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
I tried a low dose of gabapentin, thought it was excellent.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Thespritz0 on October 11, 2015, 02:51:53 PM
Anyone else indulge in benzos to "come down ," and get some sleep or relaxation? I used them for months but do to fear of addiction I'm giving them up. Still it's hard to just flush a klonopin and Xanax bars when they're not only expensive but hard to get.... Gonna try to go natural, maybe melatonin...
^^
Have you heard that CALCIUM & MAGNESIUM PILLS do the  same thing, without any risk of addiction??

Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: The True Adonis on October 11, 2015, 03:01:51 PM
Anyone else indulge in benzos to "come down ," and get some sleep or relaxation? I used them for months but do to fear of addiction I'm giving them up. Still it's hard to just flush a klonopin and Xanax bars when they're not only expensive but hard to get.... Gonna try to go natural, maybe melatonin...
If you need something to fall asleep then you are a lazy piece of shit.

Go rake some leaves and do some yard work or something.  Stop being a lazy little bitch.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 11, 2015, 03:34:33 PM
If you need something to fall asleep then you are a lazy piece of shit.

Go rake some leaves and do some yard work or something.  Stop being a lazy little bitch.

LMAO.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Submissionfytr on October 11, 2015, 04:55:19 PM
Thanks for the (harsh) advice. Yeah I was using them every night for last 2 weeks but I'll give it up now. Thanx guys!
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Lustral on October 11, 2015, 05:46:57 PM
Thanks for the (harsh) advice. Yeah I was using them every night for last 2 weeks but I'll give it up now. Thanx guys!

Good luck. 2 weeks is enough if you're the type...

Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: TheShape. on October 11, 2015, 05:50:38 PM
^^
Have you heard that CALCIUM & MAGNESIUM PILLS do the  same thing, without any risk of addiction??


I love magnesium, calms me down like no other. Most people are deficient too!
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: twitchfibres on October 11, 2015, 05:53:53 PM
Avoid Benzo's like you avoid Aids.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Submissionfytr on October 11, 2015, 06:04:56 PM
Thanks guys! I'm avoiding now, almost fell into the trap!
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: robcguns on October 11, 2015, 06:26:20 PM
Took xanax of and on for 6 months last year for anxiety.Holy hell when i stopped i felt like my anxiety was 10 times worse.those withdrawals were harsh for about 2 months.Been taking ativan same way but its much weaker than xanax.Started taking magnesium at the advice if someone here about 10 days ago and i stopped the ativan then and have felt pretty good on magnesium.Stay away from xanax,never been in to drugs and that xanax was brutal.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: The True Adonis on October 11, 2015, 06:41:19 PM
Took xanax of and on for 6 months last year for anxiety.Holy hell when i stopped i felt like my anxiety was 10 times worse.those withdrawals were harsh for about 2 months.Been taking ativan same way but its much weaker than xanax.Started taking magnesium at the advice if someone here about 10 days ago and i stopped the ativan then and have felt pretty good on magnesium.Stay away from xanax,never been in to drugs and that xanax was brutal.
Whats so "wong" in "wittle" babies life that he needs these pills?

Taking pills but not addressing the real problem.  You are brilliant.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2015, 03:46:02 AM
I tried gabapentin (neurontin) in huge doses along with smoking weed.

Great mix for general anxiety/restlessness and lowering inhibition a tad to become more social.

It is, even better is pregabalin (a stronger drug that works in the same fashion), its like amphetamines and opiates at once, a weird speedy, insulated dream state.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Raymondo on October 12, 2015, 04:26:50 AM
It is, even better is pregabalin (a stronger drug that works in the same fashion), its like amphetamines and opiates at once, a weird speedy, insulated dream state.

Do you still have benzo paws? :)
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: devilsmile on October 12, 2015, 04:29:11 AM
you people are a bunch of druggies :D
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: twitchfibres on October 12, 2015, 04:29:52 AM
Do you still have benzo paws? :)

What's that?
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2015, 04:53:05 AM
Do you still have benzo paws? :)

haha, funny you remember that ;D

I haven't taken a benzo for a couple years now, or any other gabaergic (pregabalin, baclofen) besides alcohol very intermittently. I do still have some issues with it if I get drunk say, but a drink or two seems to have no effect. I haven't really thought about it until you mentioned it so it must be a ton better, as it should be.

With that said I do use kava which may have a mild gabaergic effect, where it's lipophillic i am likely saturated with it most of the time which might be keeping it at bay.

The various gabaergics is what contributed to the PAWS in my opinion, i was hitting Gaba a and b receptors.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Raymondo on October 12, 2015, 05:29:44 AM
haha, funny you remember that ;D

I haven't taken a benzo for a couple years now, or any other gabaergic (pregabalin, baclofen) besides alcohol very intermittently. I do still have some issues with it if I get drunk say, but a drink or two seems to have no effect. I haven't really thought about it until you mentioned it so it must be a ton better, as it should be.

With that said I do use kava which may have a mild gabaergic effect, where it's lipophillic i am likely saturated with it most of the time which might be keeping it at bay.

The various gabaergics is what contributed to the PAWS in my opinion, i was hitting Gaba a and b receptors.


From a brief read on wikipedia it seems kava hits GABA A, inhibits norepinephrine and "possibly" dopamine reuptake and also MAOB.
Have you had any side effects?
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2015, 06:51:22 AM
From a brief read on wikipedia it seems kava hits GABA A, inhibits norepinephrine and "possibly" dopamine reuptake and also MAOB.
Have you had any side effects?

None to speak of, definitely not as addictive, in fact there is data on it's anti-craving potential.

It's not nearly as strong
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: robcguns on October 12, 2015, 07:39:50 AM
Whats so "wong" in "wittle" babies life that he needs these pills?

Taking pills but not addressing the real problem.  You are brilliant.

Anxiety like i said.Ive been addressing and nothing seems to work.Magnesium seems to work somewhat.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Raymondo on October 12, 2015, 10:01:27 AM
None to speak of, definitely not as addictive, in fact there is data on it's anti-craving potential.

It's not nearly as strong

What about effects on liver, etc?
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Necrosis on October 13, 2015, 05:53:20 AM
What about effects on liver, etc?

no concerns there, the data really doesn't bare out hepatotoxicity.

Most of the liver concerns are from toxins in the stems or from high content of FKB, neither are in noble kava's.

Had mine checked with no issue.
Title: Re: Benzos to sleep/relax after long day working and training...
Post by: Disco187 on October 13, 2015, 08:53:44 AM
the withdraw from benzos is really really shitty, i felt i always had to have a benzo or ambien or pot to go to bed, quit that shit two years ago, now i take melatonin or advil pm if anything at all.