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Title: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 14, 2015, 08:32:56 AM
That's the date Dr Ben Carson decided to change his affiliation to Republican Party.

- Allen B West

Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 14, 2015, 08:40:57 AM
What does West know?
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 14, 2015, 08:55:16 AM
What does West know?

repubs love west.   

Now west is shitting all over Carson for not exactly being the conservative that FOX has made him out to be.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 12:25:03 PM
repubs love west.   

Now west is shitting all over Carson for not exactly being the conservative that FOX has made him out to be.

Do you ever tell the truth?  Answer:  No.

Here is the commentary.  It is not written by Allen West, although it appears on his site, and the author isn't criticizing Dr. Carson at all. 

Stunning fact emerges about Ben Carson’s past
Written by Michele Hickford, Editor-in-Chief on October 13, 2015

Clearly the knives are out for Ben Carson. As he climbs in the polls, hot on the heels of frontrunner Donald Trump – and is de rigueur for political campaigning – there are those who will attempt to find any bit of mud to sling.

Is this latest discovery mud or just ho-hum? After all, Ronald Reagan was famously a Democrat before he jumped to the Republican camp. Louisiana State Senator Elbert Guillory made a public splash when he changed his party affiliation and “outed” himself as a conservative in a superb video.

So should we care that Ben Carson only became a Republican six months before announcing his candidacy?

According to The American Mirror, “Carson “did not affiliate with the Republican Party until he changed his voter registration on October 31, 2014.

Carson filed this “record update/change” on that date to change his party affiliation to “Republican Party of Florida” — less than six months before declaring his candidacy for the Republican nomination for president.”

The office of Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections confirms, “Dr. Carson was previously registered with a minor political party: Independence Party of Florida (IDP).”

Other records show Carson was also registered as an independent in Maryland. According to the Baltimore County Board of Elections, despite registering to vote in that county in 2001, Carson only voted in the general elections of 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010 and 2012 — and never in any primaries.”

Carson rocketed to national prominence after his comments at the National Prayer Breakfast in 2013, when he openly criticized Obamacare – in front of Obama. He was lauded as a conservative hero, but did anyone question or care about his party affiliation then?

Dr. Carson was invited to speak at the American Conservative Union’s CPAC event in March of 2014. Did anyone care about his party affiliation then?

In fact, at CPAC earlier this year, he clearly described his political affiliation in an interview with Sean Hannity, and his previous history as a Democrat.

In my humble opinion, it is far more important to judge a candidate on his or her policy statements. You know the old adage: if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

But of course, in politics you cannot always be certain what is proclaimed is actually the truth. And as we’ve learned with the election and re-election of Barack Obama, voters hear what they want to hear anyway.

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/stunning-fact-emerges-about-ben-carsons-past/
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 14, 2015, 12:35:06 PM
You hate on me, but you don't have anything to say about Oct 31, 2014, the day Carson became a republican ;)

Hmmmm
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 12:39:23 PM
You hate on me, but you don't have anything to say about Oct 31, 2014, the day Carson became a republican ;)

Hmmmm

You are a compulsive liar.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: TuHolmes on October 14, 2015, 12:41:31 PM
Seems in this instance  240 did not lie.

That is apparently according to the article BeachBum... Sorry, Dos Equis posted, the day that he did in fact register as a Republican.

Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 12:43:33 PM
Seems in this instance  240 did not lie.

That is apparently according to the article BeachBum... Sorry, Dos Equis posted, the day that he did in fact register as a Republican.



1.  It was not written by Allen West = lie no. 1. 

2.  It was not an opinion piece that was critical of Dr. Carson = lie no. 2. 
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 14, 2015, 12:50:06 PM
Allen B West is trolling Carson just a little bit, IMHO.

He legitimizes the date, which is accurate.  Dos Equis has to attack me and try to cloud the thread with "youre lying because it's west actually referencing another article..."

But facts are facts.  Until Oct 31, 2014, Ben Carson was not a republican.  And it was brought to a huge audience by West, conveniently sharing it so that his huge massively loyal republican base suddenly realizes Carson just got on the repub ship less than a fccking YEAR AGO.

SO yeah, nobody will defend you here, dos equis, you look like shit on this one, just move on.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Allen B West is trolling Carson just a little bit, IMHO.

He legitimizes the date, which is accurate.  Dos Equis has to attack me and try to cloud the thread with "youre lying because it's west actually referencing another article..."

But facts are facts.  Until Oct 31, 2014, Ben Carson was not a republican.  And it was brought to a huge audience by West, conveniently sharing it so that his huge massively loyal republican base suddenly realizes Carson just got on the repub ship less than a fccking YEAR AGO.

SO yeah, nobody will defend you here, dos equis, you look like shit on this one, just move on.

Tell the truth.  It will set you free. 
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: TuHolmes on October 14, 2015, 01:00:29 PM
1.  It was not written by Allen West = lie no. 1. 

2.  It was not an opinion piece that was critical of Dr. Carson = lie no. 2. 

Was Ben Carson a Republican on Oct 30, 2014?
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 01:00:59 PM
Was Ben Carson a Republican on Oct 30, 2014?


Was that why I called 240 a compulsive liar? 
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: TuHolmes on October 14, 2015, 01:01:43 PM
Was that why I called 240 a compulsive liar? 

I thought the topic at hand was the discussion. Whether or not Ben Carson was a Republican on October 30, 2014.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 01:04:03 PM
I thought the topic at hand was the discussion. Whether or not Ben Carson was a Republican on October 30, 2014.


My comments had nothing to do with whether Ben Carson was a Republican on October 30, 2014. 
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 14, 2015, 01:11:43 PM
Was Ben Carson a Republican on Oct 30, 2014?


No he was not.

And all Dos Equis is trying to do.... is create a massive argument so people don't realize that ONE YEAR AGO TODAY, ben carson wasn't even a fcking republican.

That's pretty big.  Dos Equis knows it's big.  Allen West wanted to make sure everyone knew it ;)

So Dos wants a big argument about dumb stuff so nobody notices

One year ago today, Dr Ben Carson was not even registered as a Republican.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: TuHolmes on October 14, 2015, 01:57:31 PM
My comments had nothing to do with whether Ben Carson was a Republican on October 30, 2014. 

I thought that was the topic of the thread?
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 02:02:30 PM
I thought that was the topic of the thread?

Ok?  And?
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: TuHolmes on October 14, 2015, 02:03:05 PM
Ok?  And?

Seems you're focused on the wrong thing.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 02:14:49 PM
Seems you're focused on the wrong thing.

No, I was pointing out false statements in his posts. 
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: TuHolmes on October 14, 2015, 02:21:41 PM
No, I was pointing out false statements in his posts. 

Which diverts the entire point of the post itself.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 02:24:08 PM
Which diverts the entire point of the post itself.

Which happens when you post false or misleading information. 
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: TuHolmes on October 14, 2015, 02:32:46 PM
Which happens when you post false or misleading information. 

But the topic wasn't really misleading.

Does it matter who stated something when it's still factual? That's like being pissed off because someone you don't like acknowledges that the sky is blue or whatever.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 14, 2015, 03:12:26 PM
But the topic wasn't really misleading.

Does it matter who stated something when it's still factual? That's like being pissed off because someone you don't like acknowledges that the sky is blue or whatever.


all of us grown-ups know what Dos Equis is doing here.   Trying to distract the titled topic of the thread.  He is trying to cloud is so nobody realizes that 1 year ago today, Dr Ben Carson wasn't even a republican.

It's gotta suck having to defend this bunch of GOP clods. 
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 04:31:54 PM
But the topic wasn't really misleading.

Does it matter who stated something when it's still factual? That's like being pissed off because someone you don't like acknowledges that the sky is blue or whatever.


The comments in the thread are misleading.  Claiming it was quote by Allen West is not factual.  Claiming Allen West criticized Dr. Carson for recently joining the GOP is not factual.  I posted the entire opinion piece. 

Regarding the date, I could care less if a person who was not involved in politics was an independent until a year ago.  Only low information liberals who are desperate to find dirt care about stupid stuff like that.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: TuHolmes on October 14, 2015, 04:33:02 PM
The comments in the thread are misleading.  Claiming it was quote by Allen West is not factual.  Claiming Allen West criticized Dr. Carson for recently joining the GOP is not factual.  I posted the entire opinion piece. 

Regarding the date, I could care less if a person who was not involved in politics was an independent until a year ago.  Only low information liberals who are desperate to find dirt care about stupid stuff like that.

I think more people will care than you will admit, but sure, whatever.

Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Straw Man on October 14, 2015, 05:02:38 PM
Allen West tweeted and linked to his website so I'd say it's fair to attribute this to West

I wonder why West would even mention this fact and call it "stunning" if not to cast some sort of doubt over Carson

As usual Bum is playing games to avoid the topic

I don't really understand this tactic.  If you want to avoid the topic then just stay off the thread in the first play but why make these disingenuous critique's of the poster.   The only critique I have it not providing a link in the first post



Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2015, 05:04:36 PM
I think more people will care than you will admit, but sure, whatever.



There are lots of people who focus on stupid stuff.  At the end of the day, Republican primary voters will not care.  Democrats are not voting for him anyway.  Independents will not care. 
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 14, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
West is DEFINITELY trolling Carson here.

And we all KNOW it's damaging by how fast Dosquis showed up to muddy the thread will silly stuff.  When the 2016 election arrives, Ben Carson will have been a registered republican for exactly 105 weeks.  Epic!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=585018.0;attach=654441;image)

Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: Straw Man on October 14, 2015, 07:36:44 PM
West is DEFINITELY trolling Carson here.

And we all KNOW it's damaging by how fast Dosquis showed up to muddy the thread will silly stuff.  When the 2016 election arrives, Ben Carson will have been a registered republican for exactly 105 weeks.  Epic!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=585018.0;attach=654441;image)



let's not get carried away
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 15, 2015, 06:18:23 AM
let's not get carried away

Yeah, let's just continue to split hairs and argue semantics for a while longer in hopes that the actual message won't be noticed.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 15, 2015, 07:36:19 AM
Maybe Carson didn't give a shit about the republican party until 50 weeks ago.

We all know he attended a liberal school and didnt' do anything to stop a robbery at popeyes chicken, other than point out the man who should be robbed.
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on October 26, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
oooooooooooh we are quickly approaching the ONE YEAR anniversary of Ben Carson becoming a republican!!!
Title: Re: Oct 31, 2014
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2015, 07:27:45 PM
To be fair, most of the lies that Carson told were delivered BEFORE he became a republican.

His famous quote "I used to be a flaming liberal" could explain why he lied so much.

The recent lies, hey, it's only been 54 weeks that he's been in the GOP, cut him some slack.