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Thick obliques already
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"The Top" being diuretics, growth hormones, organ failures and a lot of G4P activities...we are proud of you son!
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"The Top" being diuretics, growth hormones, organ failures and a lot of G4P activities...we are proud of you son!
Wow that's original. You need some new material "son"
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Wow that's original. You need some new material "son"
Not original, but true.
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Some guest posing pics, 7 weeks out from nationals
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Not original, but true.
Imagine the best genetics in a generation, mixed with hard work and belief. Amazing what might happen.
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Tony, off topic but is it true u saw levrone drink jack Daniels before a show? ;D
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Tony, off topic but is it true u saw levrone drink jack Daniels before a show? ;D
Even better, I drank with him. It was at the Arnold Classic prejudging. He was really flat and his tan was a bit off.
He had been favourite to win and just didn't nail it. So we went to the bar at the hotel and had a few drinks. He fixed up his tan and came back at night 20% better and won the show. Kevin was one of a kind and could change his look over a few hours and a few drinks.
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Even better, I drank with him. It was at the Arnold Classic prejudging. He was really flat and his tan was a bit off.
He had been favourite to win and just didn't nail it. So we went to the bar at the hotel and had a few drinks. He fixed up his tan and came back at night 20% better and won the show. Kevin was one of a kind and could change his look over a few hours and a few drinks.
Haha that's awesome!! Thanks for sharing :D
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Good work as always thony. Dude looks good and i liked that doherty shirt he had on. I lolled when he said something like "wonder how he would have looked with todays.....science"
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Good work as always thony. Dude looks good and i liked that doherty shirt he had on. I lolled when he said something like "wonder how he would have looked with todays.....science"
I believe that that Sergio Sr was about 30 years ahead of his time. Never did cardio, worked 3 jobs and had very limited knowledge of science and nutrition.
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I cannot believe that Blair Mone beat him at the USA's.
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Great interview, and you're a cool guy Tony!!!
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I cannot believe that Blair Mone beat him at the USA's.
Uh, remember that whole "fixed" thing Lee Thompson has been going on about?
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Tony
When will your next Phil Heath interview take place? Will he touch upon his achievement of killing modern bodybuilding? Or his efforts to get cell phone usage increased in gyms??
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I cannot believe that Blair Mone beat him at the USA's.
He will be heaps better in November and sometimes defeat makes you lift your game.
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Uh, remember that whole "fixed" thing Lee Thompson has been going on about?
Don't buy in to that. Remember the only person really happy with his/her place is the winner.
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Tony
When will your next Phil Heath interview take place? Will he touch upon his achievement of killing modern bodybuilding? Or his efforts to get cell phone usage increased in gyms??
Haha, not bad, I will get you to help write the questions next time champ.
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Waist is hurting his flow. Hopefully can shake stigma of riding the fame of his last name.
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Haha, not bad, I will get you to help write the questions next time champ.
sergio Olivia is my all time favorite
Good video
And yes plz let me help write them
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If he dances, then he could give Roelly a run for his money
The Ifbb really needs to start marketing these young guys so people can start following them. This guy even has name recognition for the real fans. Start marketing these guys so there's some excitement around the Olympia.
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Great interview, Tony. I am all too familiar with family trying to stop weight training, especially bodybuilding. I can't imagine if those circumstances would have included my Dad being a former Mr. Olympia.
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I believe that that Sergio Sr was about 30 years ahead of his time. Never did cardio, worked 3 jobs and had very limited knowledge of science and nutrition.
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TRUE on that, he NEVER dieted until his last few contest when he was already over 40...
From the Dave Draper archive: Sergio Oliva was famous for swigging Coca-Cola and eating pizza while saying "Calories and water, Babeeeee!" (He would also use Blair's Protein and cream when wanting to gain weight.)
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Seems ok, I guess, except for "it's not about drugs," which is laughably dishonest.
Genetically, though, think the apple might've fallen a little too far from the tree. Far enough that it rolled over to an orange tree, where it bumped into this guy.
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One of the best interviews I've heard in bodybuilding. I didn't know that Sergio Sr. did not support his son. It's kind of heart breaking to hear Jr. speak that about his father. Admittedly, my son wants to bodybuild as well and I keep talking him out of it.
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I don't think it's a foregone conclusion at all that Sergio Oliva would have been absolutely superior to
everyone in later decades, with more "science".
I know it's blasphemy to say something like this, but I think he would have been like a Paul Dillet if he competed in the 90s for example. Sergio seemed to have a bloofy look which is somewhat genetic and the back wasn't that great. I don't think he could have beat Coleman at his best, not Dorian, not Kai, probably not even Haney. This is just my opinion/hunch and impossible to know or prove.
He competed later on and yes he was old in 84 or whatever but his physique still looked fresh and despite being in good condition, better than his early years, he couldn't come in the top.
The fibers, attachments in his back aren't there to the level of a Coleman or Yates(http://i41.tinypic.com/358uvwh.gif)
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One of the best interviews I've heard in bodybuilding. I didn't know that Sergio Sr. did not support his son. It's kind of heart breaking to hear Jr. speak that about his father. Admittedly, my son wants to bodybuild as well and I keep talking him out of it.
Anybody who truly loves their child would not want them to get caught up in the sordid world of pro bodybuilding
Bodybuilding as a hobby or lifestyle naturally? Yes but I would NOT want my sons involved in it. Risks far outweigh the rewards
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Anybody who truly loves their child would not want them to get caught up in the sordid world of pro bodybuilding
Bodybuilding as a hobby or lifestyle naturally? Yes but I would NOT want my sons involved in it. Risks far outweigh the rewards
Agree.
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One of the best interviews I've heard in bodybuilding. I didn't know that Sergio Sr. did not support his son. It's kind of heart breaking to hear Jr. speak that about his father. Admittedly, my son wants to bodybuild as well and I keep talking him out of it.
Thanks Coach, glad you enjoyed it. I wonder if the old man used reverse psychology and made him really want it without being pushed. Probably not but I do wonder.
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Thanks Coach, glad you enjoyed it. I wonder if the old man used reverse psychology and made him really want it without being pushed. Probably not but I do wonder.
I don't know but I could sense that Jr. was hurt that his dad wouldn't at least train with him. It's like playing catch your son. You do it because it's a bonding moment.
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I don't know but I could sense that Jr. was hurt that his dad wouldn't at least train with him. It's like playing catch your son. You do it because it's a bonding moment.
Definitely, I could see his disappointment with that and the fact that he never went to watch him compete and when he finally did, they made such a big deal out of it that he was embarrassed for the other guys and their dads.
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Definitely, I could see his disappointment with that and the fact that he never went to watch him compete and when he finally did, they made such a big deal out of it that he was embarrassed for the other guys and their dads.
Yes, that was sad.
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Thanks Coach, glad you enjoyed it. I wonder if the old man used reverse psychology and made him really want it without being pushed. Probably not but I do wonder.
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Actually that IS a possibility... when I was in the military we had 2 brothers that were in my battalion, the drill Sergeant KNEW that they were only motivated ONLY when they were intentionally ignored or even told NOT to touch anything!! They both learned the 81mm mortar and 7.62 GPMG inside out while "being left out"!!!
They took everything apart & reassembled the whole works after hours!
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He looks like a Halfbrew. Was his mother white?
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Was this the kid that Rick Wayne handed up to Sergio at the 84 Olympia? I recall reading a Rick Wayne article saying that he did this to prevent Sergio from storming off stage or something? Is this that kid all grown up?
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Was this the kid that Rick Wayne handed up to Sergio at the 84 Olympia? I recall reading a Rick Wayne article saying that he did this to prevent Sergio from storming off stage or something? Is this that kid all grown up?
Could very well be. Sergio Jr. said he was 30.
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Was this the kid that Rick Wayne handed up to Sergio at the 84 Olympia? I recall reading a Rick Wayne article saying that he did this to prevent Sergio from storming off stage or something? Is this that kid all grown up?
Yes that is him!
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I wonder if he realizes he has some of the best genetics that bodybuilding has seen yet?
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according to leroy sergio was a real dickhead
and nubret was a cool and decent dude, which i fully believe
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Yes that is him!
Thanks. Wow, that's crazy! He has been on the Olympia stage before with among others Lee Haney (winner) Samie Bannout (6th), Bob Paris and Tom Platz. Also Sergio of course.
Good trivia question.
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I wonder if he realizes he has some of the best genetics that bodybuilding has seen yet?
Yes he definitely does and as a later starter, the best is yet to come.
The best genetics + hard work = it's not fair on the other kids....
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Was this the kid that Rick Wayne handed up to Sergio at the 84 Olympia? I recall reading a Rick Wayne article saying that he did this to prevent Sergio from storming off stage or something? Is this that kid all grown up?
good memory. I was there n forgot all about that. My one buddy just reminded me of something a couple years ago about that night. I was about to end it with this GF that at the time we just weren't getting along. My friend didn't like her much cuz of all her complaining. Anyway the three of us drove up to NYC from Pittsburgh n we took her car. A red ford Granada if I remember right. So she's complaining about whatever there was to complain about the whole way up. So we get to NYC and we park the car on the street. I think we may have stopped in Chinatown for something to eat. We get back to her car n all her hubcaps r gone. I look at my buddy n he's doing his best to not burst out in laughter.
I forgot all about that till I saw him a couple years ago and he was laffing his ass off reminding me about it.
We were like 20 at the time. Ahh the good ol days.
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Seems ok, I guess, except for "it's not about drugs," which is laughably dishonest.
Genetically, though, think the apple might've fallen a little too far from the tree. Far enough that it rolled over to an orange tree, where it bumped into this guy.
least it wasn't a grapefruit tree
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Was this the kid that Rick Wayne handed up to Sergio at the 84 Olympia? I recall reading a Rick Wayne article saying that he did this to prevent Sergio from storming off stage or something? Is this that kid all grown up?
also that night...these two couples sitting beside us. Their gfs were drooling over bob Paris routine. Then one boyfriend said he's gay anyway. That's before the story became mainstream. I was like huh?
Oh and I thought the worst posing routine was Boyer Coe punching the air to rocky theme until bob birdsong came out and tried to dance to ghost busters. It was hilariously awful.
How can the mind store all this useless info?
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A great interview Tony, SO jr is a well-spoken guy.
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Anybody who truly loves their child would not want them to get caught up in the sordid world of pro bodybuilding
Bodybuilding as a hobby or lifestyle naturally? Yes but I would NOT want my sons involved in it. Risks far outweigh the rewards
This
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I believe that that Sergio Sr was about 30 years ahead of his time. Never did cardio, worked 3 jobs and had very limited knowledge of science and nutrition.
oh didnt know that....sick genetics for sure
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I don't think it's a foregone conclusion at all that Sergio Oliva would have been absolutely superior to
everyone in later decades, with more "science".
I know it's blasphemy to say something like this, but I think he would have been like a Paul Dillet if he competed in the 90s for example. Sergio seemed to have a bloofy look which is somewhat genetic and the back wasn't that great. I don't think he could have beat Coleman at his best, not Dorian, not Kai, probably not even Haney. This is just my opinion/hunch and impossible to know or prove.
He competed later on and yes he was old in 84 or whatever but his physique still looked fresh and despite being in good condition, better than his early years, he couldn't come in the top.
The fibers, attachments in his back aren't there to the level of a Coleman or Yates(http://i41.tinypic.com/358uvwh.gif)
lol you seem to have put a lot of thought into this, maybe they needed to do more t-bar rows :D, but it's not a muscle fibre thing, looks more like an issue with shoulder structure making it hard to hit that area. hopefully junior can figure it out soon ;)
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I don't know but I could sense that Jr. was hurt that his dad wouldn't at least train with him. It's like playing catch your son. You do it because it's a bonding moment.
I think there was one time, a few yrs back. Photoshoot or something and Sr got so mad that he stormed off. I do think that he didn't want his son mixed up in this. Especially when he could see the facial resemblance. And that's why he said "school, books". Bodybulding is peanuts still. But, structurally, I think Junior is built better than Phil Heath.
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I think there was one time, a few yrs back. Photoshoot or something and Sr got so mad that he stormed off. I do think that he didn't want his son mixed up in this. Especially when he could see the facial resemblance. And that's why he said "school, books". Bodybulding is peanuts still. But, structurally, I think Junior is built better than Phil Heath.
There is no doubt that Sergio jr. has a better structure than Phil. He's 2 Heaths wide :D ,with his dads overall overall shape and insertions, for the most part. He will win the nationals overall. The IFBB needs him.
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Tony..... Great interview! ...Sergio is indeed coming up fast and furious!
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One of the best interviews I've heard in bodybuilding. I didn't know that Sergio Sr. did not support his son. It's kind of heart breaking to hear Jr. speak that about his father. Admittedly, my son wants to bodybuild as well and I keep talking him out of it.
He seems like a nice enough young man. His posing is dopey though.
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The most exciting figure in the ranks right now. If Genova wins his pro card I would love to see these 2 go head-to-head one day at the in the Doubletree Lobby at the NY Pro.
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SOJ would be an awesome mr o. Better than shut head Heath.
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He's a big dude but something is missing. He needs to be in shredded condition. He needs to be full as well. I've yet to see that from him. He has great potential though. I like his personality as well.
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He's a big dude but something is missing. He needs to be in shredded condition. He needs to be full as well. I've yet to see that from him. He has great potential though. I like his personality as well.
Definitely something missing. Got pop's full arms (sorta), and the small waist, but the rest is eh. Legs are bad, back is bad; chest/shoulders, ok, I guess. Decent genetics at best.
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Definitely something missing. Got pop's full arms (sorta), and the small waist, but the rest is eh. Legs are bad, back is bad; chest/shoulders, ok, I guess. Decent genetics at best.
Wish my legs were that 'bad'...
(http://www.sportowiec.org/pub/images/editor/zdjeciaczerwiec2014/Sergio_dobry1.jpg)
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Wish my legs were that 'bad'...
(http://www.sportowiec.org/pub/images/editor/zdjeciaczerwiec2014/Sergio_dobry1.jpg)
Yeah, look good there. Thought they were worse in video, I don't know.
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Yeah, look good there. Thought they were worse in video, I don't know.
They should look better in the pic, as he was posing in a competition there, as opposed to guest posing in the video.
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Am I the only one seeing the obliques issue? He's going to get wide fast
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HIS father had fuller chest,delts in prime,legs while not as separated as jrs were huge with big sweep,sergio was larger than life ,kid is not,and the 'myth'pose is a nice homage to dad but again serdio had narrower hips and smaller waist,,jr has good build and will go pro but should be on his own merit 'buildwise'leave comparison out..
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Wish my legs were that 'bad'...
(http://www.sportowiec.org/pub/images/editor/zdjeciaczerwiec2014/Sergio_dobry1.jpg)
Sr. has a smaller waist, better lats, thicker chest. Jr. does have a long way to go to even look like his poppa.
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.. 'Do not get into bodybuilding and stay in school' .. Sergio Sr. was just giving his son some loving, wise, sound advice.. I'm a hard core bodybuilder, yet I would give the same advice to my son when he grows up ..
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the larger waist distracts from his shape. if it were smaller, he'd look incredible. Such is life.
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Comes across very well there
Needs to work on posing
Something is not right... Really needs to connect with his physicality. Create fluidity of movement in and out of poses.
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the larger waist distracts from his shape. if it were smaller, he'd look incredible. Such is life.
Focus and control over midsection...
His dad was vacuuming and tightening in that pose
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Sr. has a smaller waist, better lats, thicker chest. Jr. does have a long way to go to even look like his poppa.
Maybe he isn't swallowing whole bottles of 100% legit ciba dianabols?
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Sr. has a smaller waist, better lats, thicker chest. Jr. does have a long way to go to even look like his poppa.
Will never happen. He doesn't have the same pop or proportion or insertions. Never in a million years
Sergio Oliva was one of a kind, most cartoonish body ever
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Am I the only one seeing the obliques issue? He's going to get wide fast
No, you're not. It will be an issue for him, and already kinda is IMO.
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Sr. has a smaller waist, better lats, thicker chest. Jr. does have a long way to go to even look like his poppa.
All true, but his son is winning on conditioning & legs
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Sergio Jrs. waist is longer than Sr's, makes his chest look not as full. Especially in the hands over head shot. Sergio needs to come in shredded this time.
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.. 'Do not get into bodybuilding and stay in school' .. Sergio Sr. was just giving his son some loving, wise, sound advice.. I'm a hard core bodybuilder, yet I would give the same advice to my son when he grows up ..
That is sound advice. My kid would not forgo college for BODYBUILDING. No sir. I couldn't imagine that at all. Lift, live the lifestyle, compete as a hobby, but no way will you not invest in your future for something like bodybuilding.
He has name recognition but still...nope
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They should look better in the pic, as he was posing in a competition there, as opposed to guest posing in the video.
Clears that up, then.
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Great interview. I hope he gets his pro card and does some damage in the IFBB. It will take some time though.
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Great interview. I hope he gets his pro card and does some damage in the IFBB. It will take some time though.
Sergio had the widest upper something in human history; can't put my finger on it, though. His lats, or shoulders, or something up there is just ridiculously wide. Is it clavicles?
Thinking in text is all, nothing to see.
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Just finished watching the video. How can you not root for the guy. He's a grounded down to earth good guy with a bodybuilding legend for a father.
Great stuff Tony.
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that was a brilliant interview, one of the best bodybuilding interviews i've seen actually.
looked a lot like his dad in some poses, arms especially are built exactly like Snr.
seems a really genuine guy, should release some training videos too.
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Just finished watching the video. How can you not root for the guy. He's a grounded down to earth good guy with a bodybuilding legend for a father.
Great stuff Tony.
Thank you brother, much appreciated. Some of the earlier posters made their comments without watching. I don't mind if people don't like my interviews but should at least watch to qualify their comment.
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that was a brilliant interview, one of the best bodybuilding interviews i've seen actually.
looked a lot like his dad in some poses, arms especially are built exactly like Snr.
seems a really genuine guy, should release some training videos too.
Thank you. I have got a few more interviews that I'm working on.
Who would you all like to see interviewed in future?
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Thank you. I have got a few more interviews that I'm working on.
Who would you all like to see interviewed in future?
Lee Priest :)
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Thank you brother, much appreciated. Some of the earlier posters made their comments without watching. I don't mind if people don't like my interviews but should at least watch to qualify their comment.
I did not watch the whole thing and I thought it was very good.
I think it's great to start marketing and promoting these guys now to infuse some life into things.
I just hope he doesnt start talking about the HATERS.
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that was a brilliant interview, one of the best bodybuilding interviews i've seen actually.
looked a lot like his dad in some poses, arms especially are built exactly like Snr.
seems a really genuine guy, should release some training videos too.
He actually sound like what Phil Heath used to sound like.
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He actually sound like what Phil Heath used to sound like.
the exact same thing crossed my mind! I remember Phil being very likeable when he first came up in the pros.
he probably still is now if you know him I guess.
to be fair to him though, constantly reading people who couldn't reach his level in their wildest dreams trash and belittle him must get irritating.
personally I just wouldn't read the fucking forums! just let the sandows do the talking and keep his mouth shut.
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the exact same thing crossed my mind! I remember Phil being very likeable when he first came up in the pros.
he probably still is now if you know him I guess.
to be fair to him though, constantly reading people who couldn't reach his level in their wildest dreams trash and belittle him must get irritating.
personally I just wouldn't read the fucking forums! just let the sandows do the talking and keep his mouth shut.
That's what Haney and Dorian did.
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Thank you. I have got a few more interviews that I'm working on.
Who would you all like to see interviewed in future?
Peter Molnar would be a great interview to do I think, brilliant physique and comes across well as a person too.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbx4cqJeNW1qh54ymo1_500.jpg)
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Peter Molnar would be a great interview to do I think, brilliant physique and comes across well as a person too.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbx4cqJeNW1qh54ymo1_500.jpg)
I only hear him talking Hungarian, good luck with that.
Nevertheless a good candidate.