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Title: Strength is genetic?
Post by: BDsauce on October 18, 2015, 01:31:53 PM
Just a bunch of criminals in prison lifting heavy weights....


Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2015, 01:32:58 PM
Fake weights.  Thats not even a prison.  This is a TV show. False Flag.

Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: herefortheglitter on October 18, 2015, 01:34:30 PM
Fake weights.  Thats not even a prison.  This is a TV show. False Flag.



Did you even bother to watch in the 30 seconds it took you to post? Haha
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2015, 01:41:00 PM
Did you even bother to watch in the 30 seconds it took you to post? Haha
All I need to know that these are actors in a Youtube video.  There is an agenda here.  WAKE UP.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: goku on October 18, 2015, 01:54:30 PM
impressive.
also, lol at fake weights!
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2015, 01:55:54 PM
impressive.
also, lol at fake weights!
Did you weigh each plate?  Were you there?   ???
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: BB on October 18, 2015, 02:15:52 PM
A few of great lifters came out of the prison system years ago -

Greg "Beetle" Lowe -

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Don Blue -

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HbaApmpa-Po/SWHPfF35DfI/AAAAAAAAAiE/xqc6Y3HcOoE/s400/one.jpg).

Blue has a distinction of being a volume lifter because they didn't have enough plates in the prison where he trained. He also almost stopped lifting after a very bad shanking that left him with a bad eye. Peary Rader, who owned Ironman magazine took a shine to Blue while he was in prison, and use to speak on his behalf during those years. Peary had a fallling out with him when Blue got out and committed more crimes. Peary was a religious man, and I think he was shined on a bit by one of those "found Jesus" type stories. Alas Jesus is lost again as quick as he was found in most cases.

Jim Williams did a good bit of time -

(http://www.bigjimwilliams.com/71world810.jpg).

Joe Bradley got out, and was helped by Fred Hatfield (at about 3:20) -

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One interesting bit of prison weightlifting lore is the Meet of 1963 in Olympic Lifting, in which Jenkins Hudson defeated guest lifter Bill March, who was one of York Barbell's main lifters. He would've been an Olympic hopeful if he was out. I wish I could find some pics of the San Quentin and other teams, they were beefy guys for the times. You can read about that meet here -

(http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/sites/default/files/jenkins_hudson_oldtimestrongman.jpg).

http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/06/prison-postal-meet-1963.html .

Folsom's Yard 1961 -

(http://www.ptcfrankston.com/doc/newsletter/72/27.jpg).

San Quentin's weight pile, probably 70's - early 80's (3:50 - onwards) -

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Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: goku on October 18, 2015, 02:39:36 PM
Did you weigh each plate?  Were you there?   ???

fake bar that bends too and sound edited in?
im guessing you were there to weigh the plates though so can confirm all this?
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: The True Adonis on October 18, 2015, 02:40:52 PM
fake bar that bends too and sound edited in?
im guessing you were there to weigh the plates though so can confirm all this?
Fake everything.  This video is meant to divide and conqueror.  Wake up.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: SF1900 on October 18, 2015, 02:41:37 PM
Fake everything.  This video is meant to divide and conqueror.  Wake up.

TA, its part of the NWO conspiracy.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2015, 03:20:22 PM
Displaying great strength is helped by having a certain type of aggressive mindset. These guys may
be more aggressive by nature plus the environment probably makes them even more aggressive and frustrated.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Lustral on October 18, 2015, 03:32:48 PM
I think a lot of strength is down to genetics, biomechanics and upbringing.

Shane hamman allegedly squatted 5 plates a side 1st time he squatted not realising it was a crazy weight. One of the heavyweights in early 1900s  jess willard was seen throwing 500lbs bales of cotton and asked to fight after someone into boxing saw him.

Personally i deadlifted 170kg (380lbs or so?) 1st time i deadlifted which was all the weight in school gym when in my uniform aged 16 having never lifted after believing the bullshit that half the rugby team had lifted it. Not in same territory as those above but i have very long arms and naturally strong legs and back - same reason i cannot bench for shit.

A lot of farm kids are strong as fuck. Look up sean o'brien on youtube, irish rugby player who grew up on a farm and you will see clips of him lifting two people, throwing 120kg guys like a a toy etc on pitch.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Sokolsky on October 18, 2015, 04:47:01 PM
Prison training in Russia, nothing fake there  :D
Especially love the axe training @ 14:50

Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: devilsmile on October 18, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
Displaying great strength is helped by having a certain type of aggressive mindset. These guys may
be more aggressive by nature plus the environment probably makes them even more aggressive and frustrated.

My record is to not jerk of for 4 weeks straight, no sex of course (doh). And let me tell you, training became easy. Just imagine yourself to not jerk off for five years or something!
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 18, 2015, 05:24:04 PM
My record is to not jerk of for 4 weeks straight, no sex of course (doh). And let me tell you, training became easy. Just imagine yourself to not jerk off for five years or something!

BigRo is the expert on the no-jerk technique, that's why he's so big!
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Lustral on October 18, 2015, 05:27:35 PM
My record is to not jerk of for 4 weeks straight, no sex of course (doh). And let me tell you, training became easy. Just imagine yourself to not jerk off for five years or something!

Surely after a while your test drops assuming youre bent or ugly and cant score.

I went three weeks without jerking off aged 15 and i remember first wank when i got home. Found a porno called 5 little piggie girls in sister's bedroom (don't ask). It was like a geyser bursting. I even had a few handjobs from women in the time i was away but we all know most women cant do it as well as we can.

Anyway back on topic, it is likely prison folk have higher test and also plenty of rest etc but that wouldnt explain a 300kg squat. That is genetic, most people's hips and knees would buckle under far less. I remember first time squatting 5 plates a side after 4 years training and i was shaking like a leaf whole lift. Some freak could do that in a year and it wouldnt tax them.

It was in another thread but a lot of strong fuckers out there who lift and dont care about it or attention but they exist.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: devilsmile on October 18, 2015, 05:32:03 PM
BigRo is the expert on the no-jerk technique, that's why he's so big!

I don't disagree  ;D. You start to see and feel the effects after one week. After that it's all gravy. But at times it's difficult. I should go back at it, it does body good. Just training and restraining = results
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: devilsmile on October 18, 2015, 05:37:57 PM
BigRo is the expert on the no-jerk technique, that's why he's so big!

I don't disagree  ;D. I start to see and feel the effects after one week. After that it's all gravy. But at times it's difficult. I should go back at it, it does body good. Just training and restraining = results

Lustral, you're really ambiguous. Go back to your wife :D. This time I have to say that you don't know at all what you're talking about, word dawg!
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Lustral on October 18, 2015, 06:04:36 PM
I don't disagree  ;D. I start to see and feel the effects after one week. After that it's all gravy. But at times it's difficult. I should go back at it, it does body good. Just training and restraining = results

Lustral, you're really ambiguous. Go back to your wife :D. This time I have to say that you don't know at all what you're talking about, word dawg!

How was i ambigouous? I think there is peak test from abstinence then your body says fuck it. Besides, bigro is not natural, nor am i, so it hardly makes a blind bit of difference.

I can do abstinence, but if i take exogenous test and say look at me im not wanking watch my test rise id be talking bollox. Im just horny.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: BB on October 18, 2015, 06:04:54 PM
Quote
Found a porno called 5 little piggie girls in sister's bedroom (don't ask).

Please explain, lol.

Also, as to the original question. Yes, higher aggression and what is probably a near perfect training environment for powerlifting type sports. It's like Westside Barbell, except if you lose, you don't just get kicked out, but probably hemmed up for your commissary, and maybe raped :). So you basically got a bunch of aggressive guys thrown into a sink or swim environment.

Also, it would be interesting to see the numbers for that whole team. I bet the strong vs weak numbers probably close to/slightly better than a good blue collar gym. The fact that it's prisoners just adds excitement to it.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Lustral on October 18, 2015, 06:17:24 PM
Please explain, lol.

Also, as to the original question. Yes, higher aggression and what is probably a near perfect training environment for powerlifting type sports. It's like Westside Barbell, except if you lose, you don't just get kicked out, but probably hemmed up for your commissary, and maybe raped :). So you basically got a bunch of aggressive guys thrown into a sink or swim environment.

Also, it would be interesting to see the numbers for that whole team. I bet the strong vs weak numbers probably close to/slightly better than a good blue collar gym. The fact that it's prisoners just adds excitement to it.

Put it this way. She was 18 and dating a guy who was 21. A few days later my dad chased the guy out of the house threatening to kill him and neither he, nor the porno, were seen again... and of course I checked my parents' bedroom.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 18, 2015, 06:46:49 PM
Lots of orals, lots of food, minimal labor so lots of rest, lots of aggression,
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: goku on October 19, 2015, 01:19:40 AM
Lots of orals, lots of food, minimal labor so lots of rest, lots of aggression,

unless you work in the kitchen, you're not getting lots of food.
it's only £10-15 worth of canteen a week (including toiletries, tobacco etc) on top of the 3 regular meals - one of which is just a bowl of cereal and toast (unless its a weekend where you get a couple of boiled eggs and some beans)

in the UK anyway, i'm sure it's similar in the US.
agreed on the rest, but not on the food.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: flinstones1 on October 19, 2015, 01:24:24 AM
I would say it's probably because   criminals usually have higher natural testosterone levels
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 19, 2015, 01:59:00 AM
unless you work in the kitchen, you're not getting lots of food.
it's only £10-12 worth of canteen a week (including toiletries, tobacco etc) on top of the 3 regular meals - one of which is just a bowl of cereal and toast (unless its a weekend where you get a couple of boiled eggs and some beans)

in the UK anyway, i'm sure it's similar in the US.
agreed on the rest, but not on the food.

Yes lots of food...Big tough guys can get new inmates to have their parents bring in money so in turn they get protection and are initiated in the prison system...YOu'd be amazed how much this goes on...Tons of things circulating through the prison systems and food is the least of their worries lol i don't mean clean food either i mean everything from honey buns to donuts...The common consensus is that people that lifted in prison were the strongest they've ever been, yet the FATTEST they've ever been. You cannot compare UK prison system to US's you cannot compare US to any other prison system we BY FAR jail the most people
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: phreak on October 19, 2015, 02:04:47 AM
A few of great lifters came out of the prison system years ago -


Good to see someone with knowledge of the past. Some very impressive lifters have been incarcerated. I seem to recall it was Lowe who was transported to a meet in leg irons? Talk about interesting meet prep!
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: BB on October 19, 2015, 03:11:20 AM
Good to see someone with knowledge of the past. Some very impressive lifters have been incarcerated. I seem to recall it was Lowe who was transported to a meet in leg irons? Talk about interesting meet prep!

Yep, I've read and heard some accounts of his meet days. Basically, 2 guards, plus a few of the prison support staff to handle coaching, etc.... brought him to meet in the prison van, with the works. Once there, they hung out in the background while he warmed up, and paled around with a few of the other lifters. They even let him get some nice fast food, but it and pre meet jitters almost made him sick.

I know he was still doing prison meets a few years ago. I think he may still be able to do regular meets also sometimes as long as they're in the Pa. area, they tried to get him into a few international meets years ago, but no one wanted to take the chance to set it up.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on October 19, 2015, 03:22:19 AM
Yes lots of food...Big tough guys can get new inmates to have their parents bring in money so in turn they get protection and are initiated in the prison system...YOu'd be amazed how much this goes on...Tons of things circulating through the prison systems and food is the least of their worries lol i don't mean clean food either i mean everything from honey buns to donuts...The common consensus is that people that lifted in prison were the strongest they've ever been, yet the FATTEST they've ever been. You cannot compare UK prison system to US's you cannot compare US to any other prison system we BY FAR jail the most people
They took ALL the free weights out of the prison closest to me three years back. Was enough to get a pump on for a short period. When youre used to one of the country's best equipped power lifting gyms it's shit
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on October 19, 2015, 03:28:13 AM
They took ALL the free weights out of the prison closest to me three years back. Was enough to get a pump on for a short period. When youre used to one of the country's best equipped power lifting gyms it's shit
I hear that's a common theme in a ton of prisons and I don't think that's a good thing it's a short term investment that actually helps people out. All the money they spend in the first place to keep them there..
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: BB on October 19, 2015, 04:24:52 AM
Yes, the trend in the States is toward jungle gym type things and cardio type fitness machines for inmate fitness.

There is/was actually a rule in federal prisons that no money was to be taken from the prison's recreational budget for new weightlifting, karate, or boxing equipment. Many states (particularly on the west coast) tend to have a similar stance. The east coast states, particularly the ones close to York Barbell, are more lenient on the issue.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: falco on October 19, 2015, 06:26:34 AM
Just a bunch of criminals in prison lifting heavy weights....




Black don't crack.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: devilsmile on October 19, 2015, 06:37:09 AM
How was i ambigouous? I think there is peak test from abstinence then your body says fuck it. Besides, bigro is not natural, nor am i, so it hardly makes a blind bit of difference.

I can do abstinence, but if i take exogenous test and say look at me im not wanking watch my test rise id be talking bollox. Im just horny.

You're also married and whatever, so.

The horny feeling is what it is. I rather be horny as fuck than miserable as fuck or even worse, apathetic. After 2 weeks of not jerking off any workout is interesting every time, especially leg workouts. I tend to get apathetic very easily if things don't go my way and abstinence truly helps. I'm just talking about my experience because it works for me and millions of other people, it just works, period.

I call it bullshit when you said that "you think" there is a peak level of test levels fro abstinence and then what? Body says fuck you as in bye bye sex drive in general? That's bullshit, completely bullshit.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: The True Adonis on October 19, 2015, 11:39:50 AM
You're also married and whatever, so.

The horny feeling is what it is. I rather be horny as fuck than miserable as fuck or even worse, apathetic. After 2 weeks of not jerking off any workout is interesting every time, especially leg workouts. I tend to get apathetic very easily if things don't go my way and abstinence truly helps. I'm just talking about my experience because it works for me and millions of other people, it just works, period.

I call it bullshit when you said that "you think" there is a peak level of test levels fro abstinence and then what? Body says fuck you as in bye bye sex drive in general? That's bullshit, completely bullshit.
You are apathetic because you are geared towards being a moron.  Not touching your pee pee for self-imposed punishment is not going to fix anything.  You are so goddamned delusional and desperate you are seeking any type of placebo effect you can at this point.

Moron.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: residue on October 19, 2015, 12:32:51 PM
Just a bunch of criminals in prison lifting heavy weights....




there's a correlation between being in a high stress high danger environment and test levels isn’t there? Or is that broscience
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: wes on October 19, 2015, 12:36:34 PM
Don Blue,great lifter who made a comeback to set records after being stabbed 7 times if memory recalls.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: devilsmile on October 19, 2015, 12:49:39 PM
You are apathetic because you are geared towards being a moron.  Not touching your pee pee for self-imposed punishment is not going to fix anything.  You are so goddamned delusional and desperate you are seeking any type of placebo effect you can at this point.

Moron.

 ::)

First of all it's not about punishment as I explained how it helps me, that's all, placebo or not, my daily "drive" is just better and I'm much more sociable. I've noticed I'm more active in general and have a better rhythm in just about anything. After jerking I tend to become careless, relaxed and just not driven = not as good workouts. Simple logic.

For example all the people who got a 100% success rate in their diets  for not consuming sugar of any kind didn't say; "But I like to eat sugar pie, so what's the point". Being horny is not the same as craving for food, I never got a good training when I'm hungry as fuck, but I sure as hell have got the best workouts when I'm horny.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 19, 2015, 05:00:45 PM
Fuck letting guys who are in prison for life for murder lift weights.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Lustral on October 19, 2015, 05:08:33 PM
You're also married and whatever, so.

The horny feeling is what it is. I rather be horny as fuck than miserable as fuck or even worse, apathetic. After 2 weeks of not jerking off any workout is interesting every time, especially leg workouts. I tend to get apathetic very easily if things don't go my way and abstinence truly helps. I'm just talking about my experience because it works for me and millions of other people, it just works, period.

I call it bullshit when you said that "you think" there is a peak level of test levels fro abstinence and then what? Body says fuck you as in bye bye sex drive in general? That's bullshit, completely bullshit.

Maybe I am different to you. I am fairly level headed and don't need to deny myself sex/jerking off. I get motivated by work to be done, not by how long it has been since I jerked off. I just put in about 26 hours of work in last day and a half; also fitted a workout and meals in no problem and sex twice and jerked off once.

As for peak test, what I am suggesting is:
1) Your test won't increase in a linear fashion; after a certain time you will reach a level it won't go beyond or else all virgin ugly fucks would be huge and aggro;
2) When you take exogenous test what effect will abstinence have on your test levels? None is my guess.

Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: tommywishbone on October 19, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
Fuck letting guys who are in prison for life for murder lift weights.

Sir, you should be arrested for your grammar and syntax. Good luck in court.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: Lustral on October 19, 2015, 05:23:35 PM
Fuck letting guys who are in prison for life for murder lift weights.

To hell with those who are imprisoned for life for the crime of murder having access to weights. It is not acceptable.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: flinstones1 on October 19, 2015, 11:20:00 PM
there's a correlation between being in a high stress high danger environment and test levels isn’t there? Or is that broscience

No, men with higher test levels are just more likely to commit crimes.
Title: Re: Strength is genetic?
Post by: devilsmile on October 20, 2015, 07:36:00 AM
Maybe I am different to you. I am fairly level headed and don't need to deny myself sex/jerking off. I get motivated by work to be done, not by how long it has been since I jerked off. I just put in about 26 hours of work in last day and a half; also fitted a workout and meals in no problem and sex twice and jerked off once.

As for peak test, what I am suggesting is:
1) Your test won't increase in a linear fashion; after a certain time you will reach a level it won't go beyond or else all virgin ugly fucks would be huge and aggro;
2) When you take exogenous test what effect will abstinence have on your test levels? None is my guess.



I've got the picture that you're a stable guy, so obviously you have a beehive/ant mentality. Currently my mind does not get motivated from thin air, even if it means I would have to survive on 100 bucks a month.

When you're depressed you usually have low dopaine/serotonine/endorfine/test levels. Last year my test levels were mesured from a regular blood test and they were just one point above the minimum normal.

 Of course abstinence won't increase my test levels but they will keep them in steady normal levels at least. At least it feels like it. Getting life on track might help but now that I look back on my life, I've always had tendencies to go from having the best day of my life to have the shittiest day of my life just like that, even when I was tanning my self every day and went to dates regularly.

But yeah, lol.