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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: dj181 on October 19, 2015, 09:32:19 PM
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something like this....
low: up to 500 mg weekly
mod: from 500 mg to 1500 mg weekly
high: over 1500 mg weekly
and what was your highest ever weekly dosage? mine was 1200 mg
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are you talking test only or total compounds?
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are you talking test only or total compounds?
;D
total compounds
and speaking of test, the highest i ran it was 700 mg of test prop
now i'm on 175 mg of test prop
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Absolute numbers mean nothing. What is your response? If you blow up on 500 mg/w, then that is a high dose for you. That same dose would cause a pro to go catabolic.
My highest weekly dose was 900 mg: 500 test, 400 mast. Since last week I'm blasting at 500 test, 350 drol.
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lol quite a bit dj...quite a bit ;D
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i think 500 is bare min. by second or third cycle most guys will still be at test 500 then add in 300-600 of eq or deca or tren and kick start with an oral of 30mg-50mg per day. so that is a total of 1000mg-1450mg per week and i dont think that is a moderate to high dosage
and agree with Phreak, it a person to person thing lol
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Weekly dosages are meaningless.
Lets say you take 750mg of test and 50mg of var ED, thats 1100mg weekly.
Then you have someone who takes 200mg test 500mg of tren and 2mg of methyl tren, thats 714mg weekly
who do you think is the taking the heavier harshest cycle ?
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Weekly dosages are meaningless.
Lets say you take 750mg of test and 50mg of var ED, thats 1100mg weekly.
Then you have someone who takes 200mg test 500mg of tren and 2mg of methyl tren, thats 714mg weekly
who do you think is the taking the heavier harshest cycle ?
this
brb "i only take a couple hundred mgs a week"
in the end its just 50mg superdrol, 50mg m1t and 5mg methyltren a day
that aint even a gram a week brah
:D
and if 1500mg a week is "High" then you should probably add in a very high, super high and pro high category too, cuz anyone who looks like he lifts has ran a couple grams here and there
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Highest I've went on total.compounds weekly is just over 2 grams with dbol deca and test. That's high for me.
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im usually in the range of 2-4 grams a week, orals an injects combined, depending what im trying to do. I feel like a pin cushion on 4gs tho. that's what I don't like.
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im usually in the range of 2-4 grams a week, orals an injects combined, depending what im trying to do. I feel like a pin cushion on 4gs tho. that's what I don't like.
same here... i might start lower when cutting and then raise gradually. same for bulking
5ml injects everyday get old after a couple weeks
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Fuck 5ml all in one syringe or do u 2 shots? Ide fucking have to just do 2 shots thats alot of oil in one spot.
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lol@2 shots, like im gonna inflict twice as much scar tissue as necessary
dont get brainwashed by steroid.com broscientists ;)
5ml is nothing... maybe if you pin 5ml t400, THEN its no good =D
you could easily put 7-8 mls in a single shot anywhere... and i mean anywhere IF you actually have some muscle mass...
lats, ventroglutes, delts, whatever, i basically pinned everything with 5+mls already.
while people on most pages claim you cant put more than 2ml in your delts ::)
it only depends on concentration.
more oil = less pip, simple as that
if i would use the same amount of gear in half the amount of oil (and i have done that before) i would be CRIPPLED for days from every single inject.
use low concentration gear only, zero pip...
sometimes i dont even remember where i injected the day before, dont feel anything
only downside is i have to pin with 25Gs, but most people use even bigger ones for smaller shots cuz theyre lazy ::)
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Lol did not know that l, like u said reading the Internet is hard to read between all the Bullshit out here I always thought over 3ml and it's a risk for infection or something and didn't waNna experiment on my self but now I know. I only use pain free gear now high mgs ml shit suckkksss. Even with 25 gs some oils don't want to go through it so easy
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well different oils have different viscosity... warming up GREATLY helps though. i always put my stuff on the stove for a couple seconds, otherwise i couldnt even push that in
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does the same hold true to high mg per ml with blends? i use a test 400 blend and its smooth as hell. i can push it through a 27g 1.25 but i usually just use a 25g. last cycle i was doing 1.5ml t400 blend with 1.5ml deca300mg per ml and i didnt have any pip. just a tight muscle at injection site some but barely noticeable. thats 1050mg of gear per shot.
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gear itself has barely anything to do with viscosity, high concentration gear might even be easier flowing because they use ethyl oleate, guaiacol (which both flow extremely well) or more BA/BB
people claim MCT oil is the very thinnest oil for example and its still extremely thick on its own, no matter if theres gear inside or not
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I just run hot water over the syringe in the sink usually half awake at the time lol I'm 2 lazy to heat shit on the stove. Draw it up, heat up under sink, slam it drink coffee, and get my ass to work.
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I draw it up and heat for a few secs using a hair dryer, much easier and i prefer dry heat
agree with jizmo re 5ml shots, that's what i do too
In terms of original question.. agree about dosages depending on compounds. More often than not, higher cycles will have more compounds. my view with examples:
low: 500mg wk test with 40mg dbol ed start
med: 750mg-1g test + 500-600 deca wk + 100mg anadrol ed start
high: 2g+ test, 750-1g tren, 800-1g npp, t3, sdrol, gh, slin etc or above
I normally start blast somewhere between low and med and end up somewhere between med and high without the gh, slin etc
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Hairdryer good idea ....................
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I have fond memories from years back, the days before multi shot vials, I used to start off with my glass vials in warm water, then hacksaw the necks, carefully snap off and fill up... Took ages in comparison to today
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lol@2 shots, like im gonna inflict twice as much scar tissue as necessary
dont get brainwashed by steroid.com broscientists ;)
5ml is nothing... maybe if you pin 5ml t400, THEN its no good =D
you could easily put 7-8 mls in a single shot anywhere... and i mean anywhere IF you actually have some muscle mass...
lats, ventroglutes, delts, whatever, i basically pinned everything with 5+mls already.
while people on most pages claim you cant put more than 2ml in your delts ::)
it only depends on concentration.
more oil = less pip, simple as that
if i would use the same amount of gear in half the amount of oil (and i have done that before) i would be CRIPPLED for days from every single inject.
use low concentration gear only, zero pip...
sometimes i dont even remember where i injected the day before, dont feel anything
only downside is i have to pin with 25Gs, but most people use even bigger ones for smaller shots cuz theyre lazy ::)
sorry i wasnt clear on what i meant earlier, more oil with less concentration of gear causes less pip which allows you to push alot more volume of liquid per shot. what if the test 400 is a blend with each ester being very low mg per ml. would that still allow you to push the same 5ml with out the pip compared to test en 400. i can even use test en 350 bc its to much mg per ml and it causes insane pip and swelling but if its a good blend its no problem.
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i use a hair dyer also, pull it up then heat with hair dyer and then change the tip to a new one and shoot. metal heats much faster then oil and i always worried i would heat the tip to much and hurt lol
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gear itself has barely anything to do with viscosity, high concentration gear might even be easier flowing because they use ethyl oleate, guaiacol (which both flow extremely well) or more BA/BB
people claim MCT oil is the very thinnest oil for example and its still extremely thick on its own, no matter if theres gear inside or not
Jizmo what brand barrels are you using? Mine get the plunger clogged when I have thin eo gear
Please explain your 5ml pinning routine
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Jizmo what brand barrels are you using? Mine get the plunger clogged when I have thin eo gear
Please explain your 5ml pinning routine
BD microlance 25G syringes, some syringes called "ecoject" (theyre 5ml but they hold 6ml)
do not get syringes with a rubber plunger for slow injections, they suck ass
also keep in mind the higher the diameter the less pressure you create, making the oil flow harder (for example you can easily inject oil through 29g insulin syringes because theyre just 1ml and have a tiny diameter)
honestly i dont even have a set routine, i just apply pressure to whereever i want to inject and if it feels uncomfortable then i know i should probably wait another 1-2 days
i just pin glutes, ventroglutes and quads right now. ventros are my favorite, dont even feel it if you hit the right spot (you often hit the wrong one though lol, dont ever inject gear that gives pip into ventros if you dont know what youre doing. worst pip spot ever).
quads only on or 1-2 days apart from leg days because injections always hurt the day after training legs.
-take the vial, put it on the stove until the oil starts to "move" (youll see the liquid inside seperating because BA/BB have a different density compared to oil)
-make sure its hot, dont boil
-put 23g tip on syringe
i actually reuse the syringe and the drawing needle a couple times, i only trash the injecting tip because i cbf going through a hundred syringes a month and the ones i use are not that cheap, no issue with reusing ever.
DO NOT inject with the same needle obviously, always switch and trash after injecting.
-draw 5ml
-put 25G tip on syringe
-wipe injection spot with wet tissue or whatever (i never use alcohol pads, waste of time and money imo and i inject after showering anyway)
-stick into ass (i dont think ill have to explain this part to getbiggers)
-i personally usually dont aspirate, unless i use high concentration tren ace (tren cough)
-inject, massage a bit afterwards
-trash 25g tip and put 23g back on
-put syringe back into drawer and reuse next injection (yeah you probably shouldnt do that, but if you inject in a clean setting its ok)
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BD microlance 25G syringes, some syringes called "ecoject" (theyre 5ml but they hold 6ml)
do not get syringes with a rubber plunger for slow injections, they suck ass
also keep in mind the higher the diameter the less pressure you create, making the oil flow harder (for example you can easily inject oil through 29g insulin syringes because theyre just 1ml and have a tiny diameter)
honestly i dont even have a set routine, i just apply pressure to whereever i want to inject and if it feels uncomfortable then i know i should probably wait another 1-2 days
i just pin glutes, ventroglutes and quads right now. ventros are my favorite, dont even feel it if you hit the right spot (you often hit the wrong one though lol, dont ever inject gear that gives pip into ventros if you dont know what youre doing. worst pip spot ever).
quads only on or 1-2 days apart from leg days because injections always hurt the day after training legs.
-take the vial, put it on the stove until the oil starts to "move" (youll see the liquid inside seperating because BA/BB have a different density compared to oil)
-make sure its hot, dont boil
-put 23g tip on syringe
i actually reuse the syringe and the drawing needle a couple times, i only trash the injecting tip because i cbf going through a hundred syringes a month and the ones i use are not that cheap, no issue with reusing ever.
DO NOT inject with the same needle obviously, always switch and trash after injecting.
-draw 5ml
-put 25G tip on syringe
-wipe injection spot with wet tissue or whatever (i never use alcohol pads, waste of time and money imo and i inject after showering anyway)
-stick into ass (i dont think ill have to explain this part to getbiggers)
-i personally usually dont aspirate, unless i use high concentration tren ace (tren cough)
-inject, massage a bit afterwards
-trash 25g tip and put 23g back on
-put syringe back into drawer and reuse next injection (yeah you probably shouldnt do that, but if you inject in a clean setting its ok)
I honestly reuse drawing needles for over a month at a time. Never had an infection before.
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I remember the cycle Trevor Smith laid out for the serious recreational bber (non competitor). This is an 8 week cycle.
1,000mg/wk Test cyp or enan
500mg/wk Deca or EQ
75mg 3x/wk Tren A
50mg/day dbol or 100mg/wk drol