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Title: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Army of One on October 28, 2015, 06:26:50 PM
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Schnauzer on October 28, 2015, 06:30:06 PM
A bad shoot, but the media will ignore it because the kid is not a Hebrew.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Twaddle on October 28, 2015, 06:31:39 PM
Bad, bad shoot.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: WalterWhite on October 28, 2015, 06:35:37 PM
A bad shoot, but the media will ignore it because the kid is not a Hebrew.

#whiteteenlivesmatter
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: BB on October 28, 2015, 06:37:58 PM
It's bad, but I don't class it as murder. I don't doubt that it was stressful to the officer being that close to the car as it sped up. Dumb kid + dumb war on drugs = this.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Nether Animal on October 28, 2015, 06:41:11 PM
Marijuana "sting" to net what? A half an ounce? Look at the cost and waste of time.

Stupid war on drugs is stupid.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: tommywishbone on October 28, 2015, 06:53:13 PM
Fine police work. Excellent job keeping matters under control. Give that man a raise and a new squad car.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: WalterWhite on October 28, 2015, 06:58:14 PM
Fine police work. Excellent job keeping matters under control. Give that man a raise and a new squad car.
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Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
LOL @ his report he feared he was about to be run over.

You're next to the car and the kid is going 7 mph.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Marty Champions on October 28, 2015, 07:54:09 PM

real stupid kid meets real stupid kid all grown up=boom matrix glitch of peace
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: SF1900 on October 28, 2015, 07:56:12 PM
real stupid kid meets real stupid kid all grown up=boom matrix glitch of peace

Too much red meat and heme iron in their diets. Poor outcome.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: woodman on October 28, 2015, 08:03:35 PM
Good shoot! Been there done it! Don't try and flee the scene
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: G_Thang on October 28, 2015, 08:14:17 PM
another lying ass cop. he said the kid tried to run him over vs. him moving along the side of the car. 
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: illuminati on October 28, 2015, 09:00:44 PM
 ::) yet another example of a fine upstanding Cop.

Oh yes clearly that lad tried to run him over.. ::)

That cop should never be allowed a gun near him.


Kid not too bright either driving off.
Sure is not A Killing Offence Though.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: SquidVicious on October 28, 2015, 09:22:14 PM
Cop was way too quick to draw his weapon over a marijuana charge. Weapon was drawn before car even moved. Any intro to firearms safety includes two pertinent items. Don't point a gun at an individual unless you intend to shoot them and don't put your finger on the trigger unless your intent is to fire your weapon. This guy had a hair trigger finger all amped up with no place to go. He was looking to fire his weapon. Had the man stopped the vehicle and gotten out, I believe the result could very easily have been the same.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: muscularny on October 28, 2015, 10:11:46 PM
not black, not gay, not muslim, not female = nobody cares

Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Coffeed on October 28, 2015, 10:31:58 PM
These are the side effects of steroids. Make no mistake.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Ropo on October 28, 2015, 11:06:15 PM
Bad, bad shoot.


Bad shoot? Bad fucking stupid criminal more likely:

"He had a history of involvement with drugs, and threatened to kill his ex-girlfriend three months prior to the incident. Previous text messages revealed a prior unwillingness to stop for police or to submit to lawful authority, and he had previously run through several police checkpoints in order to evade arrest.

Hammond was under the influence of cocaine at the time of his death. Tiller approached Hammond's car, ordering him to show his hands. Hammond did not show his hands and instead accelerated toward the officer. Tiller fired his weapon in self-defense because Hammond "drove his vehicle directly at the officer"- Wikipedia.

So, it is obvious that we have lost the best of the bests, real jewel of the mankind? Or was it yet one stupid crackpot, who killed himself by the police? If I have to choose either to let this piece of shit continue his escape and probably kill someone in the traffic, or kill him at the spot, he would be dead and honestly, 90% of you guys would do just same.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Sokolsky on October 29, 2015, 04:17:14 AM
A bad shoot, but the media will ignore it because the kid is not a Hebrew.

Looks like a good shot to me.
1 shot, 1 disabled. 100% effectiveness.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: falco on October 29, 2015, 06:53:42 AM
To kill a kid just because he wanted to run from police? That cop would face lifetime jail in my country.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: funk51 on October 29, 2015, 08:32:16 AM
 :-\
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: njflex on October 29, 2015, 09:07:43 AM
WHATS wrong with trying to shoot out the tires?i know that seems Hollywood like but I mean that video is not too convincing on the policeman.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Papper on October 29, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
maybe it's more effective to shoot a guy in the face than having to go through the bore of writing down his registration and calling it in etc
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: hench on October 29, 2015, 09:37:17 AM
officer went bit overkill there i think
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 29, 2015, 09:49:07 AM
He would be fired here. Grand jury would review the evidence and decide to indict or not. Family would sue city, city would settle out of court. Family would be both relieved they no longer have to deal with the guy, and that they now have vegas money.

He clearly put himself in harms way. You can't do that then claim he was trying to run you over. No argument it was a bad shoot. That he had his gun out was 100% acceptable given the circumstances, that he used it... not so much
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Papper on October 29, 2015, 09:54:05 AM
He would be fired here. Grand jury would review the evidence and decide to indict or not. Family would sue city, city would settle out of court. Family would be both relieved they no longer have to deal with the guy, and that they now have vegas money.

He clearly put himself in harms way. You can't do that then claim he was trying to run you over. No argument it was a bad shoot. That he had his gun out was 100% acceptable given the circumstances, that he used it... not so much

But did he draw his gun because the kid was dealing with green?
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 29, 2015, 10:06:05 AM
But did he draw his gun because the kid was dealing with green?

He drew his gun because he was making a stop on a known drug dealer which are known to carry weapons. You usually assume they are armed until you know for sure. Otherwise it's too late. He made a very bad decision to shoot, caught up in the moment, adrenaline dump going on. Had it been a practical..(a training exercise) I'm pretty sure he would have said "Oh Fuck!" immediately after shooting and have to repeat the drill. In real life, someone died. In that profession, you have to be able to make decisions quickly, and they need to be good decisions. When the decision results in the loss of life, you don't get a mulligan. I've been in that very situation on probably a dozen cases. The immediate impulse is to stop him but it should quickly be overridden by the realization you can't. He didn't get that override or didn't pay attention to it. I don't fault him too much for his perception that the guy was trying to run him over. I've seen it first hand where in that kind of situation you experience tunnel vision, and what you perceive to be happening isn't that accurate. He may not even realize he was moving along with the car. He may have thought he was standing still . The video shows his perception was off. Yes, sometimes officers lie, but sometimes their telling what they believe happened. Happens to victims the same way.     
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: jon cole on October 29, 2015, 10:42:38 AM
I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: jon cole on October 29, 2015, 10:43:45 AM
To kill a kid just because he wanted to run from police? That cop would face lifetime jail in my country.

This.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: drmarkp on October 29, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
another lying ass cop. he said the kid tried to run him over vs. him moving along the side of the car. 
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The cop was trigger happy..
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: hench on October 29, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
yea that sounds right, basically this cop decided on the death sentence, if the lad had pulled a gun this would be understandable.

I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 29, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.

Wouldn't you just call some American military guys who are on vacation to handle it?
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: C-BuZz on October 29, 2015, 12:54:17 PM
I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.

The suspect was a known druggo.  What happened if he didn't get shot & the  proceeds to take out an innocent family on the sidewalk including mother & baby ????? The  cop would then get jailed for nit shooting.

Druggos gonna druggo.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 29, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
The suspect was a known druggo.  What happened if he didn't get shot & the  proceeds to take out an innocent family on the sidewalk including mother & baby ????? The  cop would then get jailed for nit shooting.

Druggos gonna druggo.

weeeelllll... that would certainly be tragic, but the cop, who would probably feel like he should have done something different, wouldn't be jailed for not shooting. 
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: V Man on October 29, 2015, 01:50:45 PM
These are the side effects of steroids. Make no mistake.

lol
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 29, 2015, 04:47:51 PM
When did this happen? Not a peep because he's white I guess? Either way, it's not like he was going to write Beethovens 9th...
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: illuminati on October 29, 2015, 04:59:47 PM
I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.













Good Answer.
That would likely be the Logical thing to do.

I notice our resident cop answered in a supportive
& thoughtful manner.. ::) Not.
 ;)
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: illuminati on October 29, 2015, 05:02:12 PM
He would be fired here. Grand jury would review the evidence and decide to indict or not. Family would sue city, city would settle out of court. Family would be both relieved they no longer have to deal with the guy, and that they now have vegas money.

He clearly put himself in harms way. You can't do that then claim he was trying to run you over. No argument it was a bad shoot. That he had his gun out was 100% acceptable given the circumstances, that he used it... not so much














I can't give you too much Stick.
You did a Decent & Proper answer as well.
 ;) 👍
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Ropo on October 30, 2015, 12:15:51 AM
WHATS wrong with trying to shoot out the tires?i know that seems Hollywood like but I mean that video is not too convincing on the policeman.

You mean like they do in the movies? And in your fantasy world cars drive only one direction? Or could it be that Police knows there is also the reverse gear, and shot the guy before he can use it to drive over him. You just never know because we wasn't there. And you approve that move, how the guy force police to move by driving car at him. This is totally ok to do? Please try it next time when they stop you in the traffic  ;D

Guy is dead because he was too stupid to live, because there is always the option to do what the police orders. How this is so difficult to understand?   
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Conker on October 30, 2015, 03:41:48 AM
Ridiculous decision making by the cop. Apparently the whole incident started because the driver's GF tried to text someone to set up a drug deal, got a digit wrong and the text ended up going to a state trooper's mobile phone. The cops played along with it and set up a meet. The deal was supposedly for 1 gram of coke.

The cops had the licence plate of the vehicle and could have no doubt easily picked the pair up later , instead he chose to shoot into a vehicle with a young driver and female passenger over a 1 gram of coke deal.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Yamcha on October 30, 2015, 03:53:51 AM
You can't trust the police. You can't trust the media. You can't trust politicians.
The schools, churches, economy, and society as a whole are eroding.
Morals no longer exist. Work ethic is rare. Cell phones hold more value than a human life.

God bless the USA.

Why should anyone feel the need to reproduce and bring a child into this horrid world.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 30, 2015, 03:59:57 AM
You can't trust the police. You can't trust the media. You can't trust politicians.
The schools, churches, economy, and society as a whole are eroding.
Morals no longer exist. Work ethic is rare. Cell phones hold more value than a human life.

God bless the USA.

Why should anyone feel the need to reproduce and bring a child into this horrid world.

Man, that's just messed up. If you're on the ledge right now, don't jump!
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: MANGOOS on October 30, 2015, 09:17:52 AM
LOL @ his report he feared he was about to be run over.

You're next to the car and the kid is going 7 mph.
So what? Police guy did everything right.

Maybe this teen was high and he couldnt let him get away because he could hurt innocent people. Its funny how libtards cry about situations like these, if you wont listen what police say then you get shot, there wont help no blacklivesmatter or whatever racist movement that will help.

People who support black lives matter are ignorant and this movement is racist.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
So what? Police guy did everything right.

Maybe this teen was high and he couldnt let him get away because he could hurt innocent people. Its funny how libtards cry about situations like these, if you wont listen what police say then you get shot, there wont help no blacklivesmatter or whatever racist movement that will help.

People who support black lives matter are ignorant and this movement is racist.


I'll field this question as if you were serious... just in case.

This is a society of rules and regulations. Cops are supposed to follow them, bad guys, not so much. There are clear are relatively clear rules set out on when an officer can use deadly force. None of the rules contain the wording "If the bad guy pisses you off or doesn't listen to you". It is about ending a threat to your life (Clearly the officer created the threat or any perceived threat) or another. In some cases that are limited you can shoot an escaping felon but there are criteria to that. That's pretty much it. That you think they may drive off and may run over someone down the road is not one of the valid rules. To suggest cops can shoot anyone for not listening is absurd. 
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 01:57:09 PM













I can't give you too much Stick.
You did a Decent & Proper answer as well.
 ;) 👍

Sometimes I miss the rabid, acidic old you, but not often  :) 
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 30, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
WHATS wrong with trying to shoot out the tires?i know that seems Hollywood like but I mean that video is not too convincing on the policeman.

Why not just drive his cop car right into the back of the kids car and push him forward into the woods 10 feet away? Would have had the kid blocked in so he couldn't run.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 02:20:34 PM
Why not just drive his cop car right into the back of the kids car and push him forward into the woods 10 feet away? Would have had the kid blocked in so he couldn't run.

I'll answer this in case you were serious..

Because that would have been excessive force. The vehicle is a 3000 lb weapon and it also cost the taxpayers money. You really do need to give the opportunity to comply before moving to such a tactic. However... if he knew going in he was going to shoot him if he didn't stop, then hell yeah.. that would have been better I just don't think he knew until he pulled the trigger  :)
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 30, 2015, 02:25:00 PM
I'll answer this in case you were serious..

Because that would have been excessive force. The vehicle is a 3000 lb weapon and it also cost the taxpayers money. You really do need to give the opportunity to comply before moving to such a tactic. However... if he knew going in he was going to shoot him if he didn't stop, then hell yeah.. that would have been better I just don't think he knew until he pulled the trigger  :)

Ya that makes sense. He'd have to run before doing something like that.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: dr.chimps on October 30, 2015, 02:33:38 PM
Look, the only reason we're debating this shit is because cops used to get away with egregious civilian and criminal violations, and now it is being 'social media-ized.' White chick: 2 pages. Hebrewess: unlimited.

Agnostic comes on here and paints a left-of-right compromise and everyone nods and says 'hmm, reasonable.' Look, any PD officer of any standing has lied, corrupted or perjured themselves. That simple. Not gonna get a pension, otherwise. Serpicos are movie stuff. Anyone who says different is a liar.  
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 02:34:55 PM
Look, the only reason we're debating this shit is because cops used to get away with egregious civilian and criminal violations, and now it is being 'social media-ized.' White chick: 2 pages. Hebrewess: unlimited.

Agnostic comes on here and paints a left-of-right compromise and everyone nods and says 'hmm, reasonable.' Look, any PD officer of any standing has lied, corrupted or perjured themselves. That simple. Not gonna get a pension, otherwise. Serpicos are movie stuff. Anyone who says different is a liar.  

You may not be lying, but you are certainly inaccurate, oh, and if you disagree, you're an idiot (got to have that quantifier on there)
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: dr.chimps on October 30, 2015, 02:38:01 PM
You may not be lying, but you are certainly inaccurate
Not a chance. You've shaded suspects, ignored colleagues beatings, lied in court, and fudged your books. Not a chance you haven't. 
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 02:43:17 PM
Not a chance. You've shaded suspects, ignored colleagues beatings, lied in court, and fudged your books. Not a chance you haven't. 

Sorry to disappoint you, but other than "shaded suspects" which I don't even know what that means, I haven't done any of the others. It really isn't that hard to not do. Not sure why you have such a hard time believing people can be honest at work
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: dr.chimps on October 30, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, but other than "shaded suspects" which I don't even know what that means, I haven't done any of the others. It really isn't that hard to not do. Not sure why you have such a hard time believing people can be honest at work
Yes, of course, you're Parsifal and everyone else is Satan. My friends are PD and Corrections officers, and the stories...good lord.    Good luck with that pension, MF liar.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 02:58:26 PM
Yes, of course, you're Parsifal and everyone else is Satan. My friends are PD and Corrections officers, and the stories...good lord.    Good luck with that pension, MF liar.

you've apparently bought into the hype cops are running rampant and out of control. Sorry to hear that, but I doubt there is anything I can do for you.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: dr.chimps on October 30, 2015, 03:23:04 PM
you've apparently bought into the hype cops are running rampant and out of control. Sorry to hear that, but I doubt there is anything I can do for you.
   
Yes, of course; beneficent angels of the justice system. 'Just the facts, ma'am.'       ::)
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 03:35:50 PM
   
Yes, of course; beneficent angels of the justice system. 'Just the facts, ma'am.'       ::)

 :)
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: SF1900 on October 30, 2015, 03:45:11 PM
you've apparently bought into the hype cops are running rampant and out of control. Sorry to hear that, but I doubt there is anything I can do for you.

Even if that was true, it would be cleverly covered up anyway. How many cops go into drug busts and steal drugs, money, etc? Probably A LOT more than we know of, but it will never be exposed because the police force is cult-like. Cops always look out for pigs. We will never really know how corrupt the police force is (which I suspect is VERY corrupt) because of fear and intimidation if you're a whistle-blower.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 03:49:53 PM
Even if that was true, it would be cleverly covered up anyway. How many cops go into drug busts and steal drugs, money, etc? Probably A LOT more than we know of, but it will never be exposed because the police force is cult-like. Cops always look out for pigs. We will never really know how corrupt the police force is (which I suspect is VERY corrupt) because of fear and intimidation if you're a whistle-blower.

Honestly, I haven't found 1 honest cop in the 32 years I've been in the business. Every single cop I know is either on the take, or involved in drug and money laundering. But if word got out.. well.. it just can't
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 03:50:12 PM
everyone happy now?
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: beakdoctor on October 30, 2015, 03:56:10 PM
everyone happy now?

Fuck them, they are all experts in something they know absolutely jack shit about. Yes in over 20 years in law nforcement in 2 major cities, on opposites sidess of the country, the only kinds of cops i know are drug addicted, crooked, cowards.

If any of these sheeple only knew the truth......Alas they don't, they are, infact, their own worst enemies: victims of their own ignorance.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: dr.chimps on October 30, 2015, 03:56:48 PM
everyone happy now?
You're gonna shade, and lie, until you get your pension. What the f*ck do you care? You gonna bust some Mexican drug ring, or are you gonna fudge around and keep that wife of yours in sun tan lotion?  ::)
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 04:04:28 PM
You're gonna shade, and lie, until you get your pension. What the f*ck do you care? You gonna bust some Mexican drug ring, or are you gonna fudge around and keep that wife of yours in sun tan lotion?  ::)

Right?! is that even a choice? When I got into this career I said to myself "self..f@ck em,, get what you can, build up that bank account, and grab that pension" All those years of working holidays, changing shifts every 28 days, searching piss soaked homeless addicts for needles, cleaning out the puke in the back seat floorboard.. all worth it for the amount of cold hard cash I have amassed on the backs of the taxpayers. Jokes on them! 
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
Fuck them, they are all experts in something they know absolutely jack shit about. Yes in over 20 years in law nforcement in 2 major cities, on opposites sidess of the country, the only kinds of cops i know are drug addicted, crooked, cowards.

If any of these sheeple only knew the truth......Alas they don't, they are, infact, their own worst enemies: victims of their own ignorance.

I think I would be mentally exhausted if I had to haul around that much anger and hatred.... wear me out
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: dr.chimps on October 30, 2015, 04:11:13 PM
Right?! is that even a choice? When I got into this career I said to myself "self..f@ck em,, get what you can, build up that bank account, and grab that pension" All those years of working holidays, changing shifts every 28 days, searching piss soaked homeless addicts for needles, cleaning out the puke in the back seat floorboard.. all worth it for the amount of cold hard cash I have amassed on the backs of the taxpayers. Jokes on them! 
Hmm. Like a chef talking about a bad souffle- flat.  Look, you want to keep this going - that's fine - but not a chance that you will get to a retirement without lying, abetting, or crushing someone's civil/criminal rights. And, if, you try arguing otherwise, you are a motherfucking liar.  :)   
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 30, 2015, 04:13:17 PM
Hmm. Like a chef talking about a bad souffle- flat.  Look, you want to keep this going - that's fine - but not a chance that you will get to a retirement without lying, abetting, or crushing someone's civil/criminal rights. And, if, you try arguing otherwise, you are a motherfucking liar.  :)   

You are just ignorant. Watched too many movies
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Tapeworm on October 30, 2015, 09:05:04 PM
Ridiculous decision making by the cop. Apparently the whole incident started because the driver's GF tried to text someone to set up a drug deal, got a digit wrong and the text ended up going to a state trooper's mobile phone. The cops played along with it and set up a meet. The deal was supposedly for 1 gram of coke.
 

Wouldn't you just say "B @ at Rt80 HoJo's @ 9" not "See u @ Hojo's to sell you a quantity of the illicit substance cocaine so bring money and we will bring the illegal drugs."  Chicks.  ::)

I got a text the other day said "Fuck yet?"  I was all "Fucking atm, call u l8r."  So I called.  Who wouldn't curiosity get the better of?  It turned out to be some bro.  Which made me feel dirty.  Not good dirty either.  In the end, it was just uncomfortable for both of us.  The lesson is clear.  Don't get involved with texts not intended for you.  Just let them go.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Conker on October 31, 2015, 03:25:54 AM
Wouldn't you just say "B @ at Rt80 HoJo's @ 9" not "See u @ Hojo's to sell you a quantity of the illicit substance cocaine so bring money and we will bring the illegal drugs."  Chicks.  ::)

I got a text the other day said "Fuck yet?"  I was all "Fucking atm, call u l8r."  So I called.  Who wouldn't curiosity get the better of?  It turned out to be some bro.  Which made me feel dirty.  Not good dirty either.  In the end, it was just uncomfortable for both of us.  The lesson is clear.  Don't get involved with texts not intended for you.  Just let them go.

rookie error should have sent cock pics first to test the water.

but on your first point, i suppose if they sent a text just saying meet at x place ....they wouldn't know what drug/quantity they need to bring.

something that used to amuse me with some dealers i used to know ,they would insist you speak in code on the phone. would have to say shit like "i want 2 pairs of the green shoes and 1 pair of white"....as if if the police were listening in, they'd be like  "nah call off the surveillance boys this guy is just selling shoes" lol
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: WOOO on October 31, 2015, 03:35:55 AM
Fuck the police
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 31, 2015, 04:03:52 AM
Right?! is that even a choice? When I got into this career I said to myself "self..f@ck em,, get what you can, build up that bank account, and grab that pension" All those years of working holidays, changing shifts every 28 days, searching piss soaked homeless addicts for needles, cleaning out the puke in the back seat floorboard.. all worth it for the amount of cold hard cash I have amassed on the backs of the taxpayers. Jokes on them! 
Pensions are bullshit. Not because you are a police officer, but because it is an outdated concept (in all occupations)

Why should taxpayers have to continually pay you after you are done performing your duty?

That is why we are running a massive debt in this country.



Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: polychronopolous on October 31, 2015, 04:38:07 AM
Right?! is that even a choice? When I got into this career I said to myself "self..f@ck em,, get what you can, build up that bank account, and grab that pension" All those years of working holidays, changing shifts every 28 days, searching piss soaked homeless addicts for needles, cleaning out the puke in the back seat floorboard.. all worth it for the amount of cold hard cash I have amassed on the backs of the taxpayers. Jokes on them! 

Shizzo is dead on though.

It's leeches like yourself that are helping to bankrupt this country.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: dr.chimps on October 31, 2015, 04:41:30 AM
You are just ignorant. Watched too many movies
Kinda funny, and you're probably an alcoholic with 3 marriages under his belt. See how that works? Liar.   ::)
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 31, 2015, 04:45:47 AM
Kinda funny, and you're probably an alcoholic with 3 marriages under his belt. See how that works? Liar.   ::)
Chimps, do you have an issue with cops? Seems like some anger is present.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: dr.chimps on October 31, 2015, 04:53:54 AM
Chimps, do you have an issue with cops? Seems like some anger is present.
Nope. But, the social trust between law enforcement and the citizenry has long been broken, and the 'cops are inviolate' spin that Agnostic posts needs to be addressed.

/and really. is he a real cop!?
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 31, 2015, 04:58:21 AM
Nope. But, the social trust between law enforcement and the citizenry has long been broken, and the 'cops are inviolate' spin that Agnostic posts needs to be addressed.

/and really. is he a real cop!?
I would assume so. Anyways......I do enjoy these types of back and forths.  :D

Gentleman, please keep up with the opposing viewpoints and cutdowns.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Las Vegas on October 31, 2015, 11:46:07 AM
Nope. But, the social trust between law enforcement and the citizenry has long been broken, and the 'cops are inviolate' spin that Agnostic posts needs to be addressed.

/and really. is he a real cop!?

Exactly right.  Broken, smashed, atomized, and blown the fuck away to parts unknown.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Las Vegas on October 31, 2015, 11:58:03 AM
Agnostic007 says he holds a very high rank in his PD, and I do believe him.  But some of his views are due to the fact he hasn't been in the field for quite some time.

He's just holding down the fort for that view.  He knows if he takes even a teensy step down the road to say it any other way, he'll have to acknowledge the reality that the rest of us KNOW as a fact.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Mitch on October 31, 2015, 12:07:09 PM
real stupid kid meets real stupid kid all grown up=boom matrix glitch of peace
Sometimes I don't understand you, sometimes what you write is just a perfect analysis of the situation.  8)

You're walking the thin line between wisedom and madness, Johnny  8)
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: The Ugly on October 31, 2015, 12:21:12 PM
Look, the only reason we're debating this shit is because cops used to get away with egregious civilian and criminal violations, and now it is being 'social media-ized.' White chick: 2 pages. Hebrewess: unlimited.

Agnostic comes on here and paints a left-of-right compromise and everyone nods and says 'hmm, reasonable.' Look, any PD officer of any standing has lied, corrupted or perjured themselves. That simple. Not gonna get a pension, otherwise. Serpicos are movie stuff. Anyone who says different is a liar.  

Just recalling how upset you get when others apply similarly disparaging absolutes. Why is it so wrong, then, to generalize with some groups, but ok with others?
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: The Ugly on October 31, 2015, 12:27:28 PM
Yes, of course, you're Parsifal and everyone else is Satan. My friends are PD and Corrections officers, and the stories...good lord.    Good luck with that pension, MF liar.

Wow, no better than the "racists" here you so loathe. Same exact reasoning, you're just convinced you know better.

See, the cops I know never tell those stories, yet the "thugs" I know fit every stereotype in the book. But only your anecdotals matter, funny.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: The Ugly on October 31, 2015, 12:31:46 PM
Agnostic007 says he holds a very high rank in his PD, and I do believe him.  But some of his views are due to the fact he hasn't been in the field for quite some time.

He's just holding down the fort for that view.  He knows if he takes even a teensy step down the road to say it any other way, he'll have to acknowledge the reality that the rest of us KNOW as a fact.

Don't do that, and then add your "fact" bullshit. You don't speak for anyone but yourself.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Las Vegas on October 31, 2015, 12:37:41 PM
Don't do that, and then add your "fact" bullshit. You don't speak for anyone but yourself.

True.  I can't speak for delusional people.  

Who knows what they're thinking?
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Las Vegas on October 31, 2015, 12:40:29 PM
Wow, no better than the "racists" here you so loathe. Same exact reasoning, you're just convinced you know better.

See, the cops I know never tell those stories, yet the "thugs" I know fit every stereotype in the book. But only your anecdotals matter, funny.

Sounds like they don't trust you.  Good job on that!
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: The Ugly on October 31, 2015, 02:09:17 PM
Sounds like they don't trust you.  Good job on that!

Ah, very good.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 03, 2015, 02:32:49 PM
Agnostic007 says he holds a very high rank in his PD, and I do believe him.  But some of his views are due to the fact he hasn't been in the field for quite some time.

He's just holding down the fort for that view.  He knows if he takes even a teensy step down the road to say it any other way, he'll have to acknowledge the reality that the rest of us KNOW as a fact.

I believe I have taken teensy (been waiting to use that word for 3 months, thanks) step down the road on several posts. I've often said we disagree on the extent of the issues brought up here or the degree of corruption alleged. For every Youtube video of a cop doing something stupid, abusive or outright criminal, there 10's of thousands of video's no one cares to see of cops doing a great job. No one here is arguing cops don't screw the pooch, we are arguing on how often the pooch gets screwed for the most part. For the record I'm against screwing pooches. And I've always been close to patrol. I spent the majority of my years in a patrol function. I haven't done so in about 5 years but I am pretty up to date on the latest things and having spent 25 years in that capacity, I doubt I've lost insight to that aspect. But it is for the younger folks no doubt 
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: Tapeworm on November 03, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
It's just one weensy little shooting.
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: tommywishbone on November 03, 2015, 10:14:34 PM
Is the dead kid still in the hospital?
Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: SF1900 on November 03, 2015, 10:34:33 PM
I believe I have taken teensy (been waiting to use that word for 3 months, thanks) step down the road on several posts. I've often said we disagree on the extent of the issues brought up here or the degree of corruption alleged. For every Youtube video of a cop doing something stupid, abusive or outright criminal, there 10's of thousands of video's no one cares to see of cops doing a great job. No one here is arguing cops don't screw the pooch, we are arguing on how often the pooch gets screwed for the most part. For the record I'm against screwing pooches. And I've always been close to patrol. I spent the majority of my years in a patrol function. I haven't done so in about 5 years but I am pretty up to date on the latest things and having spent 25 years in that capacity, I doubt I've lost insight to that aspect. But it is for the younger folks no doubt  

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Title: Re: was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)
Post by: illuminati on November 04, 2015, 02:14:52 PM
I believe I have taken teensy (been waiting to use that word for 3 months, thanks) step down the road on several posts. I've often said we disagree on the extent of the issues brought up here or the degree of corruption alleged. For every Youtube video of a cop doing something stupid, abusive or outright criminal, there 10's of thousands of video's no one cares to see of cops doing a great job. No one here is arguing cops don't screw the pooch, we are arguing on how often the pooch gets screwed for the most part. For the record I'm against screwing pooches. And I've always been close to patrol. I spent the majority of my years in a patrol function. I haven't done so in about 5 years but I am pretty up to date on the latest things and having spent 25 years in that capacity, I doubt I've lost insight to that aspect. But it is for the younger folks no doubt 














'For every Youtube video of a cop doing something stupid, abusive or outright criminal, there 10's of thousands of video's no one cares to see of cops doing a great job.'

Yes. And your point is..???

The same applies to any job.
Only when the Fcuk ups occur are People interested & kick up a stink.
We are all paid to do a job Correctly.

Sadly there are just so many videos of cops Fcuking up Badly.
It's a Big cause for concern for Many Many People.