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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: hipolito mejia on November 04, 2015, 07:35:44 PM
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Why ? Interesting how bodybuilding publications are featuring bodybuilders from the past in order to get people's attention.
Like frank Zane, last time he was on the cover of a magazine was in 1989 .....26 years later he had to be back in order to boost sales .
These are all issues from recent months !
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Check Phil "Narrow" Heaths instantgram.
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Why ? Interesting how bodybuilding publications are featuring bodybuilders from the past in order to get people's attention.
Like frank Zane, last time he was on the cover of a magazine was in 1989 .....26 years later he had to be back in order to boost sales .
These are all issues from recent months !
maybe its because you're a creepy piece of shit?
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Bodybuilding is probably as popular as ever. Magazines, however, have massive declined due to the internet.
Who the hell buys Flex today?
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(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7225/7155320896_eedc4210bb_b.jpg)
Hard to top this for a taller guy...
Peerless physique of peace.
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Bodybuilding is probably as popular as ever. Magazines, however, have massive declined due to the internet.
Who the hell buys Flex today?
Supplements lines are most popular than ever ( that's different)
With the internet you have to seat in front of computer or tablet ,smart phone etc and search for the bodybuilder........
With the magazine , you can b at the store , gas station anywhere and the bodybuilder on the cover of mag practically comes to you, since Ronnie Coleman days none of the bodybuilders are as popular, people don't even pick the damn mag to see the pics.
With the guys from the past there is an increase in sales.
That doesn't happen in other "sports".
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Supplements lines are most popular than ever ( that's different)
With the internet you have to seat in front of computer or tablet ,smart phone etc and search for the bodybuilder........
With the magazine , you can b at the store , gas station anywhere and the bodybuilder on the cover of mag practically comes to you, since Ronnie Coleman days none of the bodybuilders are as popular, people don't even pick the damn mag to see the pics.
With the guys from the past there is an increase in sales.
That doesn't happen in other "sports".
sounds a bit creepy TBH.
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Its all about crossfit these days.
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Its all about crossfit these days.
Crossfit is a lie. End up with people not very strong, not very fast, not very muscular, not very powerful and without as much endurance. A system designed to avoid truly having any objective measure of progress. Just keep inventing silly little exercises to convince yourself you are getting more "fit" all the while your bench doesn't go up and you still look fat and sloppy. You are better off focusing.
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It's funny how people keep answering this question even though it's been posted 1000x.
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Crossfit is a lie. End up with people not very strong, not very fast, not very muscular, not very powerful and without as much endurance. A system designed to avoid truly having any objective measure of progress. Just keep inventing silly little exercises to convince yourself you are getting more "fit" all the while your bench doesn't go up and you still look fat and sloppy. You are better off focusing.
Guy I know runs a crossfit gym in AZ.
At age 45 he just deadlifted 515. That's very strong.
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Couldn't put in any better, simpler language than what Einstein so candidly pointed out:
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I think its the nostalgic value. People who still buy magazines are either old timers or haven't heard of the internet.
To appeal to the old timers they put guys who were popular in their era, Zane, Haney, even Dorian. Arnold appeals to everyone, so they may as well stick his pic somewhere on the cover of every issue and it would draw more people.
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People waiting in 3 and 4 hour lines to see a female physique competitor must be unpredcedented. bodybuilding isn't more popular than ever. Getting onstage is more popular than ever which has taken away the mystique of competing. Seriously guys Who never train legs winning physique shows, girls who look like they never lifted but are skinny with big boobs or women who forgot to diet calling themselves bikini athletes have lowered the standard and the subculture is no longer what it once was. The old timers have to get over it
As for actual bodybuilding, the actual physiques are terrible with the guts and looking poofy which has been said for the millionth time. As far as them not being popular, it's personality and being likeable. With social media it is even easier to connect with people if you know what you are doing.
I saw an interaction where s fan asked why they would be charged $5 a month for videos and the person said come on man I know you spend $5 on nonsense every month. The correct response for a business person is: we are going to be sharing so much content that the value is way more than $5! It's a way for me to connect more personally with you guys and let you into my life. We are doing everything we can to make sure that our product fulfills and exceeds your expectations!
Jay is still very popular because he is very good at connecting with fans online and in person.
You need some better personalities for one thing and some fun rivalries. Say what you want but Kamali vs Titus was hilarious
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Bodybuilding is probably as popular as ever. Magazines, however, have massive declined due to the internet.
Who the hell buys Flex today?
Working out with weights is as popular as ever. The bizarre sport of professional bodybuilding has never been less popular.
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big difference in these old pics is of course drugs were.are used as today but look at the delt peaks/biceps ,,weak parts today are pumped up with oil back then you lived with whater training and anabolics gave you...
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Training with weights was their long before modern Bodybuilding.
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Guy I know runs a crossfit gym in AZ.
At age 45 he just deadlifted 515. That's very strong.
Yeah but still...
He may run the gym but he ain't training just crossfit to get a 515 deadlift.
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Because they're not as good.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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That photo of Kai where he is wearing the full leather mask with the spikes in it is so inspirational. I wish FLEX would do a magazine poster of it.
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He looks like dogcrap here. For a second I though it was Marcus Haley.
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Because they're not as good.
Easy simple answer.
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He looks like dogcrap here. For a second I though it was Marcus Haley.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5K9NWhfPDes/maxresdefault.jpg)
everything other than chest is oils and misshapen
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everything other than chest is oils and misshapen
Yes, his bis are becoming very suspect.
Suspect bis of peace. 8)
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Yes, his bis are becoming very suspect.
Suspect bis of peace. 8)
all weird shape angles,,bbing real bbing is building it whatever way you do natural/clean/drugs ,,but making bodyparts misshappen to compensate is throwing the original formula out the window..
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Modern BB sucks, except for only a few the old guys looked best!!
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all weird shape angles,,bbing real bbing is building it whatever way you do natural/clean/drugs ,,but making bodyparts misshappen to compensate is throwing the original formula out the window..
Yup, one of the reasons he he never beat Phil. No flow at all.
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Like pro wrasslin, the internet has pulled back the curtain and people don't enjoy the reality.
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Like pro wrasslin, the internet has pulled back the curtain and people don't enjoy the reality.
This, people just can't take today's champs as serious as the did say 15-20 years ago
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Like pro wrasslin, the internet has pulled back the curtain and people don't enjoy the reality.
Agreed
I also think with everyone getting onstage it really has eliminated the exclusiveness of competition. Also the Internet has eliminated the idea that it's glamorous
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Like pro wrasslin, the internet has pulled back the curtain and people don't enjoy the reality.
kay fabe
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Because the overt homoeroticism is at an all time high.
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Because the overt homoeroticism is at an all time high.
If that was the case, today's Bodybuilders would've been more popular actually, the LGBT agenda is all over the media and more accepted than ever, gay people in general, just don't find bodybuilding "entertaining" .
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My Metroflex hangs supplement posters all over the walls; Over 75% of them depict individuals who aren't associated with the IFBB/NPC.
AAS/PEDs are frowned upon by mainstream America. These fake nattys are pulling the wool over their eyes and taking the money out of their back pocket.
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New M&F Fitness has Wrestler Batista on the cover ..
You'd think with the kind of year bodybuilder legend Mr.Dexter Jackson has had, he'd land at least one cover on a BB publication....but no.
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New M&F Fitness has Wrestler Batista on the cover ..
You'd think with the kind of year bodybuilder legend Mr.Dexter Jackson he'd land at least one cover on a BB publication....but no.
nobody cares
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Why ? Interesting how bodybuilding publications are featuring bodybuilders from the past in order to get people's attention.
Like frank Zane, last time he was on the cover of a magazine was in 1989 .....26 years later he had to be back in order to boost sales .
These are all issues from recent months !
because anyone who would buy print media is probably old as fuck anyway.
but to answer your question because anything you'd want a bodybuilder for you could get better in the wwe.
there's been about 2 popular bodybuilders ever;arnold and lou and the later is probably hella niche.
bautista in #1 movies
rock in #1 movies
cena in #1 movies
jericho on dwts
brock on espn
undertaker on fallon
ect ect.
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Bodybuilders are not popular for a number of reasons.
Bodybuilders are not popular because for most people, big muscles and veins all over the body is a repulsive picture.
Bodybuilders are not popular because they spend too much time trying to look good. That sends the message that they are shallow or more shallow than the average person, someone you cannot form solid friendship or eventual love relationship with. Also, most perceive bodybuilders as insecure because of this obsession with muscularity.
Bodybuilders are not popular because for most people bodybuilding is more related to striptease than it is to sports. In fact, one just have to watch one single clip of bodybuilders competing to realise how erotically charged bodybuilding is. If anything, people see bodybuilders are sex objects rather than sportsmen. I'm sure most don't complain about it though. Obviously, your average heterosexual man is not interested in watching nearly naked men, if anything they would watch Miss Universe contests.
Bodybuilders are not popular because they, as a collective, are perceived as aggressive, sexists, misogynists, homophobes. Most of the time bodybuilding is related to these negative qualities which make people not find something to admire in bodybuilders. People adimre heros; not villains
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nobody cares
...And that , is why bodybuilders are not as popular anymore....
Not all is lost though , Kay and his Words of wisdom are emerging on the horizon
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...And that , is why bodybuilders are not as popular anymore....
Not all is lost though , Kay and his Words of wisdom are emerging on the horizon
Who the fuck is Kay? Kay Baxter? She's dead bro...
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Who the fuck is Kay? Kay Baxter? She's dead bro...
(http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/363164841.jpg)
I think he means Kia.
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Everyone now realizes that they're steroid phonies/poseurs...
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:'(
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Holy mother of God........x 10000. :-X :-\ :'(
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Phillip Heath is responsible for killing bodybuilding
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Holy mother of God........x 10000. :-X :-\ :'(
none of those guys were actually popular though? 99% of the population couldnt name a bb other than arnold lou or maybe lee haney
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Phillip Heath is responsible for killing bodybuilding
You may have a point. He is on Instagram arguing with anybody who complains about having to pay $5 a month. His job as the sales person is to sell people on the value of what they are getting. Not chew them out for not wanting to pay
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It's because most bodybuilders today look like garbage. It's as simple as that.
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It's because most bodybuilders today look like garbage. It's as simple as that.
This and before the freaks of the 90's someone with good genetics
could reasonably assume that they could get close to that. The biggest guy was Haney
at 248. You had Gaspari and Mike Quinn around 210, ect.
When the big guys hit the scene you knew it would take not only great genetics
but a boatload of roids, HGH, food and then finally Slin; not to mention site injections.
It just became something most people didn't want to look like and definitely didn't
want to do the drugs and enormous amounts of food.
This is why the Golden Age guys are on the covers. These are the guys most
would want to look like.
Even the biggest guy of his era Still looks athletic in a shirt.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wqSbMWQuex0/hqdefault.jpg)
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It seems that bbing is more popular than ever before. Compare the Mr. Olympia crowd in 1975 to the the one in 2015. Seems there are more shows than ever before. Much bigger audience. More money for everybody. What did Arnold get in for winning the O during the 70s? Wasn't it something like $1,000?
BBing has become big business.
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This and before the freaks of the 90's someone with good genetics
could reasonably assume that they could get close to that. The biggest guy was Haney
at 248. You had Gaspari and Mike Quinn around 210, ect.
When the big guys hit the scene you knew it would take not only great genetics
but a boatload of roids, HGH, food and then finally Slin; not to mention site injections.
It just became something most people didn't want to look like and definitely didn't
want to do the drugs and enormous amounts of food.
This is why the Golden Age guys are on the covers. These are the guys most
would want to look like.
Even the biggest guy of his era Still looks athletic in a shirt.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wqSbMWQuex0/hqdefault.jpg)
X2.
That's the ideal physique... Sadly, that physique quality is long gone.
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X2.
That's the ideal physique... Sadly, that physique quality is long gone.
Yup.
And you started that 4,345th thread about it.
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Yup.
And you started that 4,345th thread about it.
LMAO and there's more to come, we really need to save bodybuilding
Trying to figure out why today's bodybuilders are not as popular might help the industry more than you think
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It seems that bbing is more popular than ever before. Compare the Mr. Olympia crowd in 1975 to the the one in 2015. Seems there are more shows than ever before. Much bigger audience. More money for everybody. What did Arnold get in for winning the O during the 70s? Wasn't it something like $1,000?
BBing has become big business.
No television exposure
Zero mainstream appeal
There are more shows than ever but many of those are centered around men's physique and bikini. Especially the amateurs .
Prize money is also pretty sorry
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LMAO and there's more to come, we really need to save bodybuilding
Trying to figure out why today's bodybuilders are not as popular might help the industry more than you think
There's nothing to figure out. It's a niche and always has been.
But how do you know it's not as popular - what data are you basing it on - I'm sure Phil Heath, Kai are more known than Haney/Yates ever were, due to social media......
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It doesn't matter how much you want to force bodybuilding on the media, people don't see bodybuilding as a sport because it isn't. People, especially heterosexual men, naturally are not interested in watching nearly naked men hit suggestive poses. Many people find them disgusting, too.
People tend to have a negative opinion on bodybuilders and the bodybuilding subcultutre ranging from narcissism to validation of negative personality traits such as sexism and aggression.
If anything, bodybuilding is seen more like a display of muscularity with clear erotic connotations which relegates bodybuilding to the level of activities such as stripping. Most of the time bodybuilding is on TV it is usually more because of its erotic nature.
See?
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No television exposure
Zero mainstream appeal
There are more shows than ever but many of those are centered around men's physique and bikini. Especially the amateurs .
Prize money is also pretty sorry
No way.....too much exposure is the reason, not the mr O contest maybe, but BB/muscularity in general.
The mystery is gone.....
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There's nothing to figure out. It's a niche and always has been.
But how do you know it's not as popular - what data are you basing it on - I'm sure Phil Heath, Kai are more known than Haney/Yates ever were, due to social media......
Right, but they were always a niche market. It’s just a bigger niche market.
While Yates and Haney were popular, the American gladiators were popular and Hogan was infinitely more popular. While Kai and Phil are popular the Rock or Cena are infinitely more popular, infinitely more charismatic\marketable and fill the same with hollywood
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No way.....too much exposure is the reason, not the mr O contest maybe, but BB/muscularity in general.
The mystery is gone.....
Pretty much everyone knows that these guys are druggies. No mystery there, eh? ;D
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No way.....too much exposure is the reason, not the mr O contest maybe, but BB/muscularity in general.
The mystery is gone.....
That's true. People know it's not mass gainer 2000 that got those biceps and delts
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What I mean by poular is not prize money or FB followers
but the number of young talent that wants to be a pro.
Look what ZYZZ did with his 190 pound aesthetic physique.
He inspired tons of young guys to want to lift.
This is one reason you had the influx of talent coming out of the 80's
into the 90's.
Now, the Paul Dillet's Flex Wheelers, Shawn Ray's may say I think I'll
pass if that is what it takes to be a pro.
The quality coming out of the amateurs has definitely declined for quite some time now
with few exceptions.
Two good examples are Cedric and Sergio Jr.
Cedric has not done chemically what he needs too, to put
on that 10-15 pounds that would make him a top Olympia guy.
He's been pretty close the same as when he turned pro in 2009.
Sergio Jr. has been around a long time and just now is starting to do what is necessary.
You can tell a guy like Compton is going to do whatever it takes to make it to
the top.
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Bodybuilders are not popular for a number of reasons.
Bodybuilders are not popular because for most people, big muscles and veins all over the body is a repulsive picture.
Bodybuilders are not popular because they spend too much time trying to look good. That sends the message that they are shallow or more shallow than the average person, someone you cannot form solid friendship or eventual love relationship with. Also, most perceive bodybuilders as insecure because of this obsession with muscularity.
Bodybuilders are not popular because for most people bodybuilding is more related to striptease than it is to sports. In fact, one just have to watch one single clip of bodybuilders competing to realise how erotically charged bodybuilding is. If anything, people see bodybuilders are sex objects rather than sportsmen. I'm sure most don't complain about it though. Obviously, your average heterosexual man is not interested in watching nearly naked men, if anything they would watch Miss Universe contests.
Bodybuilders are not popular because they, as a collective, are perceived as aggressive, sexists, misogynists, homophobes. Most of the time bodybuilding is related to these negative qualities which make people not find something to admire in bodybuilders. People adimre heros; not villains
Take out the words "Bodybuilder" and "Bodybuilding" out of what you just said and you just described the average person with an IPhone or equivalent
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No television exposure
Zero mainstream appeal
There are more shows than ever but many of those are centered around men's physique and bikini. Especially the amateurs .
Prize money is also pretty sorry
BBing never had main stream appeal. Prize money is better than it has ever been before. Again, to repeat, Arnold received $1,000 for the first four of his Olympia wins. Won $2,500 in 1975. Top and middling bbers still get lucrative contract making much more than they did in the glorified era of the 80s and 90s. The industry as a whole has grow and has made a lot of people rich including the competitors.
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What I mean by poular is not prize money or FB followers
but the number of young talent that wants to be a pro.
Look what ZYZZ did with his 190 pound aesthetic physique.
He inspired tons of young guys to want to lift.
This is one reason you had the influx of talent coming out of the 80's
into the 90's.
Now, the Paul Dillet's Flex Wheelers, Shawn Ray's may say I think I'll
pass if that is what it takes to be a pro.
The quality coming out of the amateurs has definitely declined for quite some time now
with few exceptions.
Two good examples are Cedric and Sergio Jr.
Cedric has not done chemically what he needs too, to put
on that 10-15 pounds that would make him a top Olympia guy.
He's been pretty close the same as when he turned pro in 2009.
Sergio Jr. has been around a long time and just now is starting to do what is necessary.
You can tell a guy like Compton is going to do whatever it takes to make it to
the top.
I'm not sure I'm following. There are more people competing and aspire to be a pro than ever before. Too many it seems. The fan base is greater by far than it has ever been before due to social media. You can argue that the quality among competitors isn't what you think it should be but that doesn't seem to discourage more and more people taking up bbing/weight training and following the sport.
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Gay's have found other interests.
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(http://www.superphysique.org/images/superphysique/articles/7/mike_mentzer.jpg)
This inspired me to go to the gym. Now, 8 month pregnant, synthol-fueled behemoths......I'd rather stay home, scratching my balls, watching the Price is Right.
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(http://www.superphysique.org/images/superphysique/articles/7/mike_mentzer.jpg)
This inspired me to go to the gym. Now, 8 month pregnant, synthol-fueled behemoths......I'd rather stay home, scratching my balls, watching the Price is Right.
Drew Carey fucked that show up. I miss bob.
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BBing never had main stream appeal. Prize money is better than it has ever been before. Again, to repeat, Arnold received $1,000 for the first four of his Olympia wins. Won $2,500 in 1975. Top and middling bbers still get lucrative contract making much more than they did in the glorified era of the 80s and 90s. The industry as a whole has grow and has made a lot of people rich including the competitors.
Relatively speaking 300K or 400K this year for the top person in a sport isn't very much. I suppose it's better than what happens to most amateur athletes who go to the Olympics and barely make anything
When people are talking about there are more people than before you aren't talking about bodybuilding. At the amateur level it's mostly physique and bikini people. They have a ton of those pros but yet those pros aren't enough to have a stand alone show nor do those people make much prize money and those people aren't mainstream either
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IMO, MMA has also contributed as people get to see what a functional athlete looks like. It doesn't look like a bloated, overinflated bodybuilder.
It looks like this:
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Relatively speaking 300K or 400K this year for the top person in a sport isn't very much. I suppose it's better than what happens to most amateur athletes who go to the Olympics and barely make anything
When people are talking about there are more people than before you aren't talking about bodybuilding. At the amateur level it's mostly physique and bikini people. They have a ton of those pros but yet those pros aren't enough to have a stand alone show nor do those people make much prize money and those people aren't mainstream either
I'm not talking about relatively speaking.You can't compare bbing with other sports. A pro bowler makes more than bbers. I'm talking about bbing now versus previous years. They make much more now than ever before including endorsements and sponsors.
I don't follow physique or bikini so I wasn't aware that people go to the shows to see those events rather than bodybuilding. Can anyone else here confirm that?
And I'm sure lower level pros don't make much. But they certainly have more opportunity to compete and advance than ever before. Besides most people who compete in bbing know they will probably never be a top pro and compete because that's what they like to do and even pay out of their own pocket to compete.
It doesn't matter anyway. People can say the sport is dying but there will always be people aspiring to be on stage,more than ever before, and there will always be an audience for them. But it will always be a cult.
It's no coincidence that this board, like so many others, bash modern bbing and saying it's dying but they're still on bbing boards, follow all the top competitors and attend or follow the shows.
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I didn't say the people go to shows to see physique and bikini. I said the entrants are what's driving up the numbers in shows and why there are so many shows becuase there's over saturation of pros but it's not popular enough to stand on its own. It's always held in conjunction with an NPC show which has an abundance of bikini and physique contestants who bring family and friends
Bodybuilding is at a crossroads. The old guard is hanging it up and you've got the new guys coming up along with this classic physique division. If it was more professionally run I think they could have more interest and get back on tv
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It's because most bodybuilders today look like garbage. It's as simple as that.
What about their personalities? this generation doesn't seem to look up to Phil Heath,Kai etc although they're dominating the "sport" for the past 5 years .
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What about their personalities? this generation doesn't seem to look up to Phil Heath,Kai etc although they're dominating the "sport" for the past 5 years .
Because it's hard to look up to a midget.
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(http://www.superphysique.org/images/superphysique/articles/7/mike_mentzer.jpg)
This inspired me to go to the gym. Now, 8 month pregnant, synthol-fueled behemoths......I'd rather stay home, scratching my balls, watching the Price is Right.
his stats during competition was 225lb (at 5'8) 18.5inch arms and to think most would not be happy today under 250lb and 20inch arms
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(http://www.superphysique.org/images/superphysique/articles/7/mike_mentzer.jpg)
This inspired me to go to the gym. Now, 8 month pregnant, synthol-fueled behemoths......I'd rather stay home, scratching my balls, watching the Price is Right.
This physique is close to perfection and this is how a true "relaxed" pose should be.
Nowadays we have this thing in a "relaxed" pose:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=465713.0;attach=512161;image)
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