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Title: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 17, 2015, 11:43:18 AM
If main goal was recovery after a cycle, is it better to go high dose x 8-10 weeks vs moderate doses x 12-14 weeks?

I'm thinking 500 test plus var x 8 weeks

Or 14 weeks test 300 and deca 300...
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Jizmo on November 17, 2015, 11:52:40 AM
500mg test = "high dose" ? :-\

to answer your thread

dont ever use deca or EQ if intend to do PCT. just dont.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 17, 2015, 12:06:45 PM
500mg test = "high dose" ? :-\

to answer your thread

dont ever use deca or EQ if intend to do PCT. just dont.

I mean higher not high.   500 is high to me, esp legit pharm grade test

As for never using deca, what if I did 3-400 deca x 10 weeks but carried test to week 14?
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Jizmo on November 17, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
deca lasts forever in your blood
you CANT use it when youre only cycling and want to recover afterwards, simple as that.
just forget about deca and EQ.
if you wanna use nandrolone then use NPP.

and imo shutdown is shutdown. doesnt matter if its 200mg or 1000mg. it probably does matter how long youre shut down though. so shorter high dosed cycles would be "better". however i consider PCTing and cycling a retarded concept, so so much for that ;)
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Disco187 on November 17, 2015, 01:01:38 PM
I did one bottle of deca one time like a idiot and man ohhhhhhhhh man was I shut doooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww wn!!!!!
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 19, 2015, 07:55:42 AM
500mg of pharma test a week is plenty. more is not always better.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: ritch on November 19, 2015, 11:57:05 AM
500mg of pharma test a week is plenty. more is not always better.

in your case it would be as you're a shrimp. Then again, you did use 200mg winny per day and were still a shrimp...

Stop giving advice on gear man, you have 0 cred.

Time to hand in mod card and bring back credibility to what it means to be a mod.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 19, 2015, 01:08:20 PM
in your case it would be as you're a shrimp. Then again, you did use 200mg winny per day and were still a shrimp...

Stop giving advice on gear man, you have 0 cred.

Time to hand in mod card and bring back credibility to what it means to be a mod.

used 200mg of winstrol for 5 days just as a experiment and was insanely strong and the most vascular I have ever been. get some veins buddy. winstrol is not suppose to get you huge ritch. O cred I gained 12 lbs in 2 months and it was all clean. You gain 12 pounds in 2 months and document it.

I got cred because Ive used pretty much every compound except some peptides. I told you id drop my mod status but you have no vascularity and couldn't beat me on that.Ritch your not that impressive buddy. you don't define hardcore bodybuilding either otherwise you would have a vein.

hardcore bodybuilders are vascular! your not! You have zero vascularity.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Jizmo on November 19, 2015, 01:35:34 PM

hardcore bodybuilders are vascular! your not! You have zero vascularity.

i guess youre more hardcore than four time mister olympia jay cutler then.

(http://goldenmuscles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/2010olympia-jay-cutler.jpg)

vascularity is 90% genetics and has absolutely zero to do with muscle mass ..
just sayin.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 19, 2015, 02:57:48 PM
i guess youre more hardcore than four time mister olympia jay cutler then.

(http://goldenmuscles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/2010olympia-jay-cutler.jpg)

vascularity is 90% genetics and has absolutely zero to do with muscle mass ..
just sayin.

he has shitload of spray tan on him. Ive seen jay in person and he was crazy vascular.
How is Test cyp/winstrol and Tren plus AI's a bad cycle? I don't know winstrol seems to bring out more vascularity when I have it in a stack. I'm not nearly as vascular unless I'm on winstrol.

I'm just saying most guys want the whole package vascularity included. I love the vascular look.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: ritch on November 19, 2015, 03:08:25 PM
Never said I defined hardcore bb'ing dipshit. I got a pussy slayer physique and am more than happy with it.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Jizmo on November 20, 2015, 12:27:10 AM
he has shitload of spray tan on him. Ive seen jay in person and he was crazy vascular.


didnt know spray tan was hiding your veins

(http://i34.tinypic.com/wjtlk0.jpg)

 ::)
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2015, 01:32:58 AM
didnt know spray tan was hiding your veins

(http://i34.tinypic.com/wjtlk0.jpg)

 ::)

Lee priest is def more vascular then jay cuttler that's for sure! The paler somebody is the more their vascularity will show especially if they have thin skin and is in shape. Jay def isn't the most vascular bodybuilder but in person way more impressive then in pictures.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2015, 01:40:55 AM
Never said I defined hardcore bb'ing dipshit. I got a pussy slayer physique and am more than happy with it.

just out of curiosity are you married? I thought you were married or had a steady girlfriend? I'm happy with my physique I came along way from nearly crippled and hooked on opiate based painkillers for 5 years  to clean off painkillers.

 I was also super out of shape! Finally got clean off the oxys and a year later got in better shape then almost anybody in my gym and got my strength back.

ritch you make it seem like I have been training 10 years steady on juice! Def not the case! I never thought I was going to touch a weight again. It's all up-hill from here so just watch I'll show alot of improvement this year.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: heenok on November 20, 2015, 02:31:20 AM
oh boy here we go again
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: WOOO on November 20, 2015, 04:15:23 AM
didnt know spray tan was hiding your veins

(http://i34.tinypic.com/wjtlk0.jpg)

 ::)


I didn't get that either. ... I remember meeting dillett and flex. ... Flex leaner but dillett was way more vascular. His Forearms didn't have room for muscle definition. ..
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2015, 04:33:43 AM

I didn't get that either. ... I remember meeting dillett and flex. ... Flex leaner but dillett was way more vascular. His Forearms didn't have room for muscle definition. ..

Dillett was very freaky looking. just a genetic freak I heard rumors he didn't train nearly as hard as most pros.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: WOOO on November 20, 2015, 04:53:25 AM
Dillett was very freaky looking. just a genetic freak I heard rumors he didn't train nearly as hard as most pros.


Those rumours were widely discussed in his hay day.

I don't see how they can be true. As a getbigger I have to think that he was just trolling.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Disco187 on November 20, 2015, 05:30:58 AM
oh boy here we go again


my thoughts exact
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 20, 2015, 05:49:22 AM

my thoughts exact

LOL I have no idea what I ever said to this guy. were both happy with our physiques so fuck it. I do know how to stack drugs very well. I'll post my upcoming stack next week and It will be a stack that is very common and will work. Test E,Tren  and winstrol very simple. hell Test E and tren is a great stack.

Lets not hijack another thread I think the worm should do fine on 500mg pharma Testosterone plus Anavar. I'm not sure how advanced he is but I know he has run a cycle or two so he could even stack all 3 compounds. Id get a AI like arimidex to have on hand though.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 20, 2015, 12:13:03 PM
LOL I have no idea what I ever said to this guy. were both happy with our physiques so fuck it. I do know how to stack drugs very well. I'll post my upcoming stack next week and It will be a stack that is very common and will work. Test E,Tren  and winstrol very simple. hell Test E and tren is a great stack.

Lets not hijack another thread I think the worm should do fine on 500mg pharma Testosterone plus Anavar. I'm not sure how advanced he is but I know he has run a cycle or two so he could even stack all 3 compounds. Id get a AI like arimidex to have on hand though.

Thanks for getting this thread back on track!

Is underground var good or is it 99% winstrol?
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: pestosterone on November 20, 2015, 02:00:21 PM
I just assume it's winny so ide get winny if u go UGL and pay less for the winny
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Mranabolic on November 21, 2015, 03:03:54 AM
Worm go 12 weeks man

8 weeks - 300 test - 300 deca
4 weeks - 300 test - 50 var

This way u leave toom for deca to clear while u on test so can start pct to recover

I used to do it like this .. Until i start b/c
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: local hero on November 21, 2015, 06:01:04 AM
Worm go 12 weeks man

8 weeks - 300 test - 300 deca
4 weeks - 300 test - 50 var

This way u leave toom for deca to clear while u on test so can start pct to recover

I used to do it like this .. Until i start b/c


300 test/decca... Why bother going on at all, there's being safe and then there's wasting your time. Shut your self down high or low so you might as well use a reasonable dose
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: heenok on November 21, 2015, 08:12:33 AM
Well the smaller the dose the lesser the loss of gains. I cant imagine a guy coming of a gram of test and 700mg of tren a week to NOTHING. So depressing.
If you do 500mg test only lets say, you will lose some but you wont crash as bad. So for psychological reason if you cycle, try to make the most of small doses.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 21, 2015, 08:42:46 AM

300 test/decca... Why bother going on at all, there's being safe and then there's wasting your time. Shut your self down high or low so you might as well use a reasonable dose

What's your rec doses?
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 21, 2015, 08:44:19 AM
Well the smaller the dose the lesser the loss of gains. I cant imagine a guy coming of a gram of test and 700mg of tren a week to NOTHING. So depressing.
If you do 500mg test only lets say, you will lose some but you wont crash as bad. So for psychological reason if you cycle, try to make the most of small doses.

Agree, smaller doses and hard work = less sides and more keepable gains
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Mranabolic on November 21, 2015, 08:48:21 AM

300 test/decca... Why bother going on at all, there's being safe and then there's wasting your time. Shut your self down high or low so you might as well use a reasonable dose

Haha i m not use 300 mg man .. This is worms thread and his propose dose is 300 mg so i try make a sugestion based on what he want so i can help ;-)
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 21, 2015, 09:34:50 AM
Haha i m not use 300 mg man .. This is worms thread and his propose dose is 300 mg so i try make a sugestion based on what he want so i can help ;-)

And I appreciate the advice!  Yiur the only one who recommended a solid cycle
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 21, 2015, 10:49:43 AM
I just assume it's winny so ide get winny if u go UGL and pay less for the winny

this! don't gamble on anavar when winstrol does the same thing. Ive had real var and winstrol and I think winstrol is better anyway.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Bulgarian_enforcer on November 21, 2015, 10:09:59 PM
this! don't gamble on anavar when winstrol does the same thing. Ive had real var and winstrol and I think winstrol is better anyway.

Var is way superior if legit. Pretty much similar strength gains without the negatives from sore joints and bad liver values that youget fromwinny.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 22, 2015, 02:13:28 AM
Var is way superior if legit. Pretty much similar strength gains without the negatives from sore joints and bad liver values that youget fromwinny.

their both just cutting drugs. I think winstrol def makes you stronger then anavar. Anavar is more mild but it's a risky buy! I think worm gets it from  HRT clinic so it's legit anavar.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: heenok on November 22, 2015, 02:57:55 AM
I can agree winstrol in my experience (mg of mg) got me strong as hell on a huge caloric deficit + crazy vascularity.
Anavar just allows me to keep my strengh and muscle while dieting.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 22, 2015, 05:32:07 AM
their both just cutting drugs. I think winstrol def makes you stronger then anavar. Anavar is more mild but it's a risky buy! I think worm gets it from  HRT clinic so it's legit anavar.
That is true but those bastards want 10-15 dollars per tab!!!    Hence asking about UG
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: whitewidow on November 22, 2015, 06:47:55 AM
That is true but those bastards want 10-15 dollars per tab!!!    Hence asking about UG

I think your shooting the dice buying UGL Anavar- Winstrol is always a safe buy. geez 10-15$ a tab! You could run HGH for cheaper.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: deadz on November 22, 2015, 01:17:36 PM
I got burned on gp anavar, garbage
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: johnnyb5309 on November 22, 2015, 06:17:25 PM
The Geneva var you bought was shit? Damn, I ran some a few years back it was great. It is extremely expensive too.. I spent like 700 on my 6 weeks worth I think.
I have no input because I had zero luck cycling. Just seemed to be a constant fluctuation of gaining strent and size only to do everything I could after cycle to retain some of that size only to gain body fat with diet ad training in check. Blast and cruise is the way.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 22, 2015, 07:11:18 PM
The Geneva var you bought was shit? Damn, I ran some a few years back it was great. It is extremely expensive too.. I spent like 700 on my 6 weeks worth I think.
I have no input because I had zero luck cycling. Just seemed to be a constant fluctuation of gaining strent and size only to do everything I could after cycle to retain some of that size only to gain body fat with diet ad training in check. Blast and cruise is the way.
I still like the concept of cycling...   I go off x 4 months and keep a majority of the gains and just feel healthier

Once I lose gains to an unacceptable level I hop back on.  This way I am not needle depended forever and it gives my hdl find to return to normal
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: lilhawk1 on November 22, 2015, 07:45:01 PM
That is true but those bastards want 10-15 dollars per tab!!!    Hence asking about UG

You need a new HRT clinic.  Mine gives me the anavar troches, and they're very affordable.  Every bit as good or better than Upsher Smith var tabs.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: pestosterone on November 23, 2015, 05:06:51 AM
I dont see why var is so sought after, granted I have never tried it but it's safest for females so I pushed it out of my head as to b most effective. Small dosage of tren 50mg eod is probly 2x as effective as var @ any dose is my opinion. Don't waste time on BS or getting fake var buy it from your HG clinic or run winny if u go UGL.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 23, 2015, 08:03:52 AM
Agree, I did var only one time and noticed little, maybe 5 pound gain but that was 50 mg x 7 weeks.  Got a lot stronger that was much more noticeable

Going to try it one more time, this time with prop
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: heenok on November 24, 2015, 01:31:13 AM
People like anavar because its side effect free for the most part. Well it trashes your lipid profile but since you dont feel/see it the regular meathead doesnt care.
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: theworm on November 24, 2015, 08:05:43 AM
People like anavar because its side effect free for the most part. Well it trashes your lipid profile but since you dont feel/see it the regular meathead doesnt care.
Correct and it's prob the most dangerous side effect.  Heart attack can kill, acne and gyno not so much
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: Bulgarian_enforcer on November 24, 2015, 09:56:47 AM
var is safest oral there is... wtf u talking about. get some dbol and winny and see how it trashes our blood panel...
Title: Re: For those who cycle?
Post by: WalterWhite on November 24, 2015, 09:57:04 AM
People like anavar because its side effect free for the most part. Well it trashes your lipid profile but since you dont feel/see it the regular meathead doesnt care.

They all have a negative effect on your lipid profile.  Have you had blood work while just on var vs test?  Most stack it with test so it can be difficult discern.