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interview after prejudging of NPC Nationals 2015
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The interviewer is living through two generations of schmoing.
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Won't make a dent whatsoever.
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Won't make a dent whatsoever.
Yes he will.
These days, the guys competing at the national level are not very good. He will rise to prominence in the IFBB soon.
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Manion is licking his chops waiting for Sergio to be on that IFBB stage.
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Meh...
Unless he starts mega-dosing, he never get further than he is.
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Yep. It's the changing of the guard. They've got some new guys who have great and likeable personalities. You need people with some life in them
I feel bad for him though. Seems like all he ever wanted was for his dad to care and for his dad to be proud of him. I hope that he comes to terms with the fact that his dad probably had his own demons and that he is his own man
I also hope he doesn't get caught up in the nonsense and starts carrying on about haters.
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Yep. It's the changing of the guard. They've got some new guys who have great and likeable personalities. You need people with some life in them
I feel bad for him though. Seems like all he ever wanted was for his dad to care and for his dad to be proud of him. I hope that he comes to terms with the fact that his dad probably had his own demons and that he is his own man
I also hope he doesn't get caught up in the nonsense and starts carrying on about haters.
Seems to be enjoying himself and earnest enough which is charming. Doesn' strike me as insecure enough to worry about haters like someone who will remain nameless. 8)
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Seems to be enjoying himself and earnest enough which is charming. Doesn' strike me as insecure enough to worry about haters like someone who will remain nameless. 8)
He's also had to work for this for a long time and it sounds like he did what he had to do to get there so that gives you more security and you don't get distracted by haters
Hopefully he has a good support system around him. I like what he said about wanting him to focus on his whole life.
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To be called Jnr after your father's name is incredibly silly if you ask me.
So what your existance is in the shadow of your father's?
Fuck that...
The egotistical thought process behind naming your son as your Jnr is disgusting
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To be called Jnr after your father's name is incredibly silly if you ask me.
So what your existance is in the shadow of your father's?
Fuck that...
The egotistical thought process behind naming your son as your Jnr is disgusting
check out george foreman's kids
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To be called Jnr after your father's name is incredibly silly if you ask me.
So what your existance is in the shadow of your father's?
Fuck that...
The egotistical thought process behind naming your son as your Jnr is disgusting
for normal kids its alright but for the famous or athletically gifted it sucks just ask chavez jr lol
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check out george foreman's kids
;) :)
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Is he a psychopath like his father ? :(
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Is he a psychopath like his father ? :(
His father was a hard working, hard lifting Cuban. No psychopathy.
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check out george foreman's kids
have you seen his kids there like him but bigger and would make great boxers if they had the hunger like there dad
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I heard he won.
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:)
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Yes he will.
These days, the guys competing at the national level are not very good. He will rise to prominence in the IFBB soon.
True there are a lot of cans competing today but that's because there are just a lot of people competing. There are a handful of legit freaks out there coming up. Sergio Jr. looks like a great bber but I don't think he's reached the level of freakiness that takes you to the top tier. Depends how old he is if he has a chance. If he's still in his twenties then maybe. If he is already in his thirties his window of opportunity is closing fast.
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He's good, but he's not his Dad. Sergio Sr. had arguably the best bodybuilding genetics ever. Jr. is not as blessed.
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He's good, but he's not his Dad. Sergio Sr. had arguably the best bodybuilding genetics ever. Jr. is not as blessed.
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Looks like a top level National bodybuilder is supposed to look.
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He's good, esp on his legs, but I believe that Eddie Bracamontes had a better conditioning
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Looks like a top level National bodybuilder is supposed to look.
yes wes,,,he did his homework ,props,,but to say here comes the next great oliva is a bit of a reach...
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He's good, esp on his legs, but I believe that Eddie Bracamontes had a better conditioning
He looks like he mythed on his conditioning.
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He's good, esp on his legs, but I believe that Eddie Bracamontes had a better conditioning
Better conditioning but Sergio's structure is better. The only problem with Sergio is he is a bit long waisted, which takes away from his back development. Shows from the front, especially in the victory pose and front double bicep.
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Better conditioning but Sergio's structure is better. The only problem with Sergio is he is a bit long waisted, which takes away from his back development. Shows from the front, especially in the victory pose and front double bicep.
Well said, I agree 100%, plus Sergio's chest is almost gone in certain poses
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Don't think he can be a top pro. Long torso bb'ers are so disadvantaged.
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Don't think he can be a top pro. Long torso bb'ers are so disadvantaged.
But Branch Warren was 6th @ the 2015 Olympia. And he looks like trash. There will be room for Sergio Jr soon.
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But Branch Warren was 6th @ the 2015 Olympia. And he looks like trash. There will be room for Sergio Jr soon.
Haha, true...
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True there are a lot of cans competing today but that's because there are just a lot of people competing. There are a handful of legit freaks out there coming up. Sergio Jr. looks like a great bber but I don't think he's reached the level of freakiness that takes you to the top tier. Depends how old he is if he has a chance. If he's still in his twenties then maybe. If he is already in his thirties his window of opportunity is closing fast.
Ronnie Coleman didn't get really good until well in his 30s. Although, he had his pro card a long time before that. Vince Taylor didn't start bodybuilding until he was 28, and look at his longevity. Al Beckles at 40-50+ looks better than many Pros do today. Don't think he can be a top pro. Long torso bb'ers are so disadvantaged.
In a sense, ideally lower lat insertions are better. Orville Burke had high lats and was a beast. Dex Jackson has high lats and won the Mr. O and has 5 Arnold Classics, and at 46 was second at the 2015 Mr. O, and one could say that he should have won. Dennis Wolf is always a threat
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Wont do shit in the pros
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Wont do shit in the pros
agreed. guys who dominate the pros are guys that get their pro card and then gain 20-40 lbs after becoming pro. he has changed maybe 8 lbs in 6 years.
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The Next Big Thing in bodybuilding will be something chemical. Not a person
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Not hating but I agree with others, will struggle as a pro, structure wise hes got a bit to work with, don't think his structure is as good as his dads, depends what hes got left to unlock in the potential tank, but his progress has been a lot slower than many others, that could be financial but most guys doing the nationals are usually using plenty, and the next 20 lbs is more about having the income to do the ius of pharma not mgs of test, and being able to maintain his waist while he grows elsewhere, plenty of got bigger from here with the financial resources, trouble is the ius grow the waist as well as everywhere else.
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I think he will do well in smaller tier shows. I hope he does not get poofy.
I wouldn't even be surprised if he makes it to the Olympia in 2016 with how I think there's going to be a shift with classic bodybuilding coming in. May not crack top 10 but still
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Better conditioning but Sergio's structure is better. The only problem with Sergio is he is a bit long waisted, which takes away from his back development. Shows from the front, especially in the victory pose and front double bicep.
This.
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Doesn't seem to have his Dad's response to the gear?
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Doesn't seem to have his Dad's response to the gear?
this and dosen't have the same potency drug wise his dad had as well,,his dad was the 'ronnie'coleman of his era a freak /response /strenght/looking the part in the 3 things i mentioned,his kid looks good but not omg good,,i wish him well in regards to 'fufilling his bbing potential 'if thats his goal for this part of his life..
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Ronnie Coleman didn't get really good until well in his 30s. Although, he had his pro card a long time before that. Vince Taylor didn't start bodybuilding until he was 28, and look at his longevity. Al Beckles at 40-50+ looks better than many Pros do today. In a sense, ideally lower lat insertions are better. Orville Burke had high lats and was a beast. Dex Jackson has high lats and won the Mr. O and has 5 Arnold Classics, and at 46 was second at the 2015 Mr. O, and one could say that he should have won. Dennis Wolf is always a threat
Good points. In way, bbing seems to favor older athletes more than in most physical oriented points. Nowadays you seem to start hitting your peak in your 30s.
Good luck to Sergio Jr. It's a tough road to hoe.
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Was his dad *THAT* good, though or was he good for his era?
We agree that if Arnold of 1976 competed today he wouldn't even win Jr. Nationals. Arnold in his prime would get washed out in a Npc National line up having tiny legs, no back and "decent" conditioning. Arnold of 1980 wouldn't even win a local show if there was a decent superheavyweight in the mix trying to qualify.
Was Sergio Sr. really that good? Or was he good for his time? Would old man Sergio of 1970 even be in the first call-out of a USA's? I doubt it.
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He's also had to work for this for a long time and it sounds like he did what he had to do to get there so that gives you more security and you don't get distracted by haters
Hopefully he has a good support system around him. I like what he said about wanting him to focus on his whole life.
yes we need to examine his every move
if he slips up we can tear him to pieces
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If he starts real chemical warfare watch out. His father was against him bodybuilding I heard. Maybe he just uses enough gear to get by in contests.
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Was his dad *THAT* good, though or was he good for his era?
We agree that if Arnold of 1976 competed today he wouldn't even win Jr. Nationals. Arnold in his prime would get washed out in a Npc National line up having tiny legs, no back and "decent" conditioning. Arnold of 1980 wouldn't even win a local show if there was a decent superheavyweight in the mix trying to qualify.
Was Sergio Sr. really that good? Or was he good for his time? Would old man Sergio of 1970 even be in the first call-out of a USA's? I doubt it.
have u seen a decent local superheavyweight look anything like an 1980 arnold,,if u have please post a pic,and after re-reading what u wrote maybe a good amatuer looking to re-qualify but still,,,
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I agree that 9 out of 10 superheavyweights these days at any Npc show are truly heavyweights that didn't diet down properly but would old man Sergio in his prime got first call out at this past nationals in the supers? I doubt it.
He was great for his era but today we have a way better knowledge of drugs and nutrition. Give old man sergio then what these guys are using now? Holy shit. That would have been a sight to behold.
I remember reading once somewhere that it has been said that getting ready for a show old man Sergio would literally eat pizza and drink Coke and eat cake daily never once doing any cardio or ever fathoming the concept of the word calories. He was that genetically freaky.
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^^^^ by todays judging and standards he'd be marked down due to soft hams and glutes. He wouldn't be Top 10 at a national line up.
Imagine him on today's pro level stack of sauce. Wow.
Junior wont be a top tier pro if anything he is mid-level maybe 3rd tier. He needs another 5lbs of solid muscle to even make the top 5 at a Tampa pro show. I see him no doubt doing the Chicago pro show in the summer of 2016, tho. ::)
If he was smart like Evan Centopani he would take a full year off to grow and recharge and let his receptors clear out a bit then do the 2017 Chicago pro. I dont think he is. He seems to eager and impatient. If you have to "try" more than once to go pro at a national show your odds of doing anything on the pro level decreases dramatically. Not that there is a future for him as a professional bodybuilder or anything outside some free flights, hotel rooms, meals and a box of supplements.
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It isn't like there's all this amazing competition. There are so many shows these days and I'm sure after last year's Olympia and all the drama, Sergio will end up on the Olympia stage. I think he looks better than some that were at this year's Olympia. I hope he gets some tutoring on the biz end of things and I hope he doesn't try to come up with myth supplements. He's got a great personality. He should use that
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agreed. guys who dominate the pros are guys that get their pro card and then gain 20-40 lbs after becoming pro. he has changed maybe 8 lbs in 6 years.
Its all about $$ for him. If he had the cash to step on the gas lookout.
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Its all about $$ for him. If he had the cash to step on the gas lookout.
You might be right. Once you get to the level where you need pharm grade hgh then the cost go up considerably. Thousands a month.
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agreed. guys who dominate the pros are guys that get their pro card and then gain 20-40 lbs after becoming pro. he has changed maybe 8 lbs in 6 years.
Well, the current Mr. O and the 2nd place winner (who is a 5 time Arnold winner) both adhere to the small increments in weight gain. If Flex Wheeler did this, he'd probably have an Olympia or two under his belt.
Most guys look their best during their first to second year.
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Well, the current Mr. O and the 2nd place winner (who is a 5 time Arnold winner) both adhere to the small increments in weight gain. If Flex Wheeler did this, he'd probably have an Olympia or two under his belt.
Most guys look their best during their first to second year.
U are comparing some of the best guys to this guy... Mentioning Dexter, Ronnie to a nobody early 30's just turned pro guy
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U are comparing some of the best guys to this guy... Mentioning Dexter, Ronnie to a nobody early 30's just turned pro guy
Don't you be talking about Sergio Oliva Jr like that!!!!
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I remember a few posts about his dad late in life wanting to attend the Mr Olympia contest in Vegas and the fine gentlemen at Weider offering him a single free ticket in the back row at the top of the arena and not even a second ticket so he could bring a friend or relative. Classy way to treat a legend. That's what Junior has to look forward to.
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Was his dad *THAT* good, though or was he good for his era?
We agree that if Arnold of 1976 competed today he wouldn't even win Jr. Nationals. Arnold in his prime would get washed out in a Npc National line up having tiny legs, no back and "decent" conditioning. Arnold of 1980 wouldn't even win a local show if there was a decent superheavyweight in the mix trying to qualify.
Was Sergio Sr. really that good? Or was he good for his time? Would old man Sergio of 1970 even be in the first call-out of a USA's? I doubt it.
He was that good! I saw Sergio guest pose 84 I think, in S.FL. You would have had to see it to believe it. His structure, muscle bellies etc. I will never forget it.
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I remember a few posts about his dad late in life wanting to attend the Mr Olympia contest in Vegas and the fine gentlemen at Weider offering him a single free ticket in the back row at the top of the arena and not even a second ticket so he could bring a friend or relative. Classy way to treat a legend. That's what Junior has to look forward to.
Maybe because he was salty about the way the IFBB had treated him and they felt, "meh" about him in the present?
Funny how the IFBB left a bad taste in the mouths of Sergio, Serge, Robby, etc.
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He's more ripped than his Dad ever was. Who knows what Sergio would look like dropping that extra 10-15 pounds. It changes your whole physique.
People talk about Sergio deserved to win in 1972 over Arnold, I saw pics and Arnold was far more ripped, and bigger. Sergio might have had nice shape, drop 15 pounds and see what that shape looks like then. It's a totally different ball game.
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Maybe because he was salty about the way the IFBB had treated him and they felt, "meh" about him in the present?
Funny how the IFBB left a bad taste in the mouths of Sergio, Serge, Robby, etc.
They treat all of them like shit. Think about why there are no former mr Olympias at the contest except for jay and he lives there. They came out for the 50th but it's sad how they do. All former mr. Olympias should get free hotel and tickets.
Pro bodybuilding isn't a lucrative career for most so I hope he has other revenue streams. I am rooting for him
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Better conditioning but Sergio's structure is better. The only problem with Sergio is he is a bit long waisted, which takes away from his back development. Shows from the front, especially in the victory pose and front double bicep.
Could be remedied by wearing dad's high waisted old school trunks..
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Lot of potential here, and it sounds like he's semi intelligent. Unlike the super "freaks" who just go balls to wall abusing drugs until they blow out one of their livers, Sergio seems like he knows that to be a lasting success, you can't rush it.
The "freaks" have always come and gone and that's because they have little interest in bodybuilding. They just do well on drugs and rely entirely on them.
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Lot of potential here, and it sounds like he's semi intelligent. Unlike the super "freaks" who just go balls to wall abusing drugs until they blow out one of their livers, Sergio seems like he knows that to be a lasting success, you can't rush it.
The "freaks" have always come and gone and that's because they have little interest in bodybuilding. They just do well on drugs and rely entirely on them.
How many livers do we have?
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His father was a hard working, hard lifting Cuban. No psychopathy.
Ok we forget about the wife-hitting-and-her-shooting-him stuff.........right. ::)
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Ok we forget about the wife-hitting-and-her-shooting-him stuff.........right. ::)
Maybe she forgot her place in the household?
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How many livers do we have?
As many as it takes.
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Ok we forget about the wife-hitting-and-her-shooting-him stuff.........right. ::)
His wife shot him? What a psycho biatch.
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Better conditioning but Sergio's structure is better. The only problem with Sergio is he is a bit longwaisted, which takes away from his back development. Shows from the front, especially in the victory pose and front double bicep.
He has high lats.Senior had the same problem.
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LIVE with SERGIO OLIVA JR. Dave Palumbo interviews the newest NPC Nationals Mens Overall Champion.
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Dave does a pretty good job with his 'Live with' interviews
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