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Title: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Set It Up on November 21, 2015, 11:50:54 AM
Im Canadian and Im pretty duh about politics,..but my question is:

Anything I read about Obama, he seems to skirt around ISIS with zero strategy, lots of excuses and from what I read, has a near sympathy for them.

Obama is so far reacting to the global crisis by attempting to convey a delicate balance of toughness and compassion, both maintaining that he has an aggressive strategy for defeating ISIS while urging Americans to remain open to refugees who are fleeing from the terrorist group in Syria and Iraq.

am I wrong?
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: _aj_ on November 21, 2015, 11:57:37 AM
Im Canadian and Im pretty duh about politics,..but my question is:

Anything I read about Obama, he seems to skirt around ISIS with zero strategy, lots of excuses and from what I read, has a near sympathy for them.

Obama is so far reacting to the global crisis by attempting to convey a delicate balance of toughness and compassion, both maintaining that he has an aggressive strategy for defeating ISIS while urging Americans to remain open to refugees who are fleeing from the terrorist group in Syria and Iraq.

am I wrong?

Not bad. But he's not even pretending to have a strategy anymore. Obama wants to put 100% of his wood behind "fundamentally transforming" the US domestically. Foreign policy and foreign misadventures are an unwanted distraction. So his "strategy" per se is to pretend that nothing worthy of discussion is actually going on.
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Set It Up on November 21, 2015, 11:59:31 AM
Not bad. But he's not even pretending to have a strategy anymore. Obama wants to put 100% of his wood behind "fundamentally transforming" the US domestically. Foreign policy and foreign misadventures are an unwanted distraction. So his "strategy" per se is to pretend that nothing worthy of discussion is actually going on.
ya thats the gist of what I read
man, is he the worst president ever?
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Joe Pietaro on November 21, 2015, 12:04:02 PM
I am a staunch right wing conservative and have hated this prick with ears since the day his name was first uttered as a candidate for the Dems. But he has even surpassed my worst nightmares. His "strategy" to combat ISIS in Syria has been disastrous, with billions being spent on arms for these savages, only to see them abandon or switch sides...either way the result being ISIS using our weapons.

For that entire 'arm the insurgency against Assad' program (who were also fighting ISIS), there are FIVE guys left. Yes, five. Not enough to even play a choose-up three-on-three half court basketball game.
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 21, 2015, 12:32:05 PM
Im Canadian and Im pretty duh about politics,..but my question is:

Anything I read about Obama, he seems to skirt around ISIS with zero strategy, lots of excuses and from what I read, has a near sympathy for them.

Obama is so far reacting to the global crisis by attempting to convey a delicate balance of toughness and compassion, both maintaining that he has an aggressive strategy for defeating ISIS while urging Americans to remain open to refugees who are fleeing from the terrorist group in Syria and Iraq.

am I wrong?

No....he's one of them.
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: The True Adonis on November 21, 2015, 12:41:39 PM
Im Canadian and Im pretty duh about politics,..but my question is:

Anything I read about Obama, he seems to skirt around ISIS with zero strategy, lots of excuses and from what I read, has a near sympathy for them.

Obama is so far reacting to the global crisis by attempting to convey a delicate balance of toughness and compassion, both maintaining that he has an aggressive strategy for defeating ISIS while urging Americans to remain open to refugees who are fleeing from the terrorist group in Syria and Iraq.

am I wrong?
I think he is doing it the right way, just like Putin is doing actually.  Tons of bombs, not too much rhetoric.  Rhetoric is not as explosive as a bombs but it is incendiary to spreading terror.  They thrive on being called this and that.  

Its no different on Getbig.  You are Obama and America and Uncle Junior is ISIS.  He loves when you call him out, challenge him etc...  Thrives on it.  Gives him legitimacy.  When you don't give him that or what he wants, he goes aways and stays silent.  Same type of deal.

U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt’s foreign policy was "speak softly, and carry a big stick".
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on November 21, 2015, 01:00:10 PM
I'd like to know how a man with a white British mother and black British colony born Muslim father is referred to as the first "African American" President.  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: The True Adonis on November 21, 2015, 01:23:05 PM
I'd like to know how a man with a white British mother and black British colony born Muslim father is referred to as the first "African American" President.  ??? ??? ???
Who knows?  By that rationale, we should be calling Warren G. Harding the first black president.
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Andy Griffin on November 21, 2015, 01:25:50 PM
Who knows?  By that rationale, we should be calling Warren G. Harding the first black president.

WGH also porked a VERY young girl in the Oval Office.

Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
No....he's one of them.

why did he order the military to kill bin laden, the leader of the bad guys?
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: 2Thick on November 21, 2015, 01:49:06 PM
Not bad. But he's not even pretending to have a strategy anymore. Obama wants to put 100% of his wood behind "fundamentally transforming" the US domestically. Foreign policy and foreign misadventures are an unwanted distraction. So his "strategy" per se is to pretend that nothing worthy of discussion is actually going on.

Agreed. He's also apparently among those who believe that a strong America is actually worse for the world, that we are the root cause of much of the world's problems, and that "American Exceptionalism" is a bad thing. He's also heavily influenced by Valerie Jarrett, of course.

A primary difference among much of the left and those of us who tend to lean right is exactly what the federal government's role should be. We right wing nutjobs believe that the federal government and federal tax dollars should be primarily concerned with national defense, fraud prevention, and a sensible immigration policy - keeping us "free" and safe". More and more of the left wants government control of private industries through such regulations as Dodd-Frank and the ACA... wealth redistribution via "free" healthcare, "free" college for all, more expanded entitlements all around, etc.
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on November 21, 2015, 02:35:49 PM
No....he's one of them.

He's a muslim?

The Constitution says we can exclude no one from holding office or voting based upon their religion.

Do you feel it's time to amend the Constitution to keep those 8 million people from voting?
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 21, 2015, 05:59:46 PM
The US bombing campaign is a joke. The amount of sorties is joke. The extreme rules of engagement by Obama and his administration has the US military hands tied. The Obama administration over rules the military concerning presented targets time and time again.  The Russians did more effective bombing in one week than the US did in months. The 500 million dollars arming the resistance by the US in Syria has ended up in ISIS hands. Look at all the Humvee's and Toyota pick up trucks they use that were paid for by the US. The Wolf ammo  is the brand that Russia sells to the US and it's the ammo in their AK-47s.

Obama is the worst and most divisive President in history but he has the majority of US news provider who are complicit in the support of his liberal agenda. He is running this country into the ground yet  some of the simpletons who supported him still back him.

He forced so many businesses into providing only part time jobs so they can avoid Obamacare making so many workers work two part time jobs yet he claims gains in employment.  In one year the penalties for not having health care is being phased in. Wait till the Obama supporters wait for their tax return to find out it's not coming due to Obamacare penalties.

Listening to the majority of the news providers like CBS, NBC, ABC, NY Times, Washington Post, Huffington post, MSNBC, CNN, Snopes, Politico and the rest make Obama seem like he's doing a fantastic job. I'm sure the majority of young people living in their parents basements might agree but anyone with half a brain can see that the emperor is naked and without clothes. The biggest sham ever to come down the pike.

When it comes to terrorists his line of logic is if Muslims commit terrorism they are not Muslims. Therefore Muslims commit zero terrorism.

He has created enemies of our closest ally in the Mideast Israel. He uses the term ISIL instead of ISIS just like radical Muslims do so Israel isn't recognized as part of the middle east. Yet, American Jews are his biggest supporters.

He claims he can't get anything done due to Republicans in congress. Yet he had both the House and the Senate Democratic his first two year and he did nothing. He claims his big thing was saving the car industry with a massive bail out. He doesn't mention that he offered it to Ford the same bail out to GM and Chrysler but they refused. They came out just as strong as the government supported GM and Chrysler. It was so embarrassing that when Ford accepted a green car technology money that both GM and Chrysler accepted they screamed, " See Ford took a bail out too." No, they didn't.  

The economy was actually going well under George Bush until his final two years when both the Senate and the House went Democratic. That's when the crazy spending happened and the Democrats got control of the banks. That's when Dodd Frank made banks make risky mortgage loans to people who didn't qualify who defaulted.  

He has increased the spending to unheard of levels putting this country into a debt that can crush this country into a depression that could make the first one seem like a joke.  

He constantly does outrageous things like claiming he is has the biggest deportation rate of illegal immigrants of any president. When that claim is looked into he counts those turned away at the border that no other President used in his stats. The fact of the matter that he is so fond of using is the lowest deportation President.

He has constantly created hostility against cops. His home town of Chicago has had over 2500 shootings last year but his complicit press is eerily silent.  Cops nation wide are afraid to act knowing they have no support and they are trying to protect their jobs. No police department can be effective without the support of both government and the people they serve.

He claims he is the reason for the increase in oil production in this country when it is happening in spite of his obstacles and regulations.  He is fighting to out law coal power plants that would increase energy costs across the country and put so many out of work.

I could type forever but I just wish this night mare will end. When will this country wake up? At least the results of the last election that made the Republicans the majority in Congress and made so many Republican governors was surely a shock to liberals. Hillary Clinton is backing Obama at every turn. I think even with the complicit majority press backing her it might back fire.  
  


 

Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 21, 2015, 06:22:08 PM
why did he order the military to kill bin laden, the leader of the bad guys?

The Viking funeral should answer that for you.

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Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: chaos on November 21, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
why did he order the military to kill bin laden, the leader of the bad guys?
He's a muslim?

The Constitution says we can exclude no one from holding office or voting based upon their religion.

Do you feel it's time to amend the Constitution to keep those 8 million people from voting?
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Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 22, 2015, 06:13:10 AM
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Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 22, 2015, 09:44:16 AM
Im Canadian and Im pretty duh about politics,..but my question is:

Anything I read about Obama, he seems to skirt around ISIS with zero strategy, lots of excuses and from what I read, has a near sympathy for them.

Obama is so far reacting to the global crisis by attempting to convey a delicate balance of toughness and compassion, both maintaining that he has an aggressive strategy for defeating ISIS while urging Americans to remain open to refugees who are fleeing from the terrorist group in Syria and Iraq.

am I wrong?

You pretty much have it right on and yes, in my opinion he is the worst President of all time.

He treats the Presidency like an academic exercise for him to experiment with all his radical ideas.  Unfortunately for us, there are real world consequences to his decisions.
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: MAXX on November 22, 2015, 10:07:38 AM
doesn't matter if you bomb the shit out of so called ISIS.

New ones gets recruited all the time. They will just respawn again, again and again no matter what. Bombs and terrorism is just the way of the sandpeople.

what we did wrong was not closing the borders for them..
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 22, 2015, 12:39:47 PM
Im Canadian and Im pretty duh about politics,..but my question is:

Anything I read about Obama, he seems to skirt around ISIS with zero strategy, lots of excuses and from what I read, has a near sympathy for them.

Obama is so far reacting to the global crisis by attempting to convey a delicate balance of toughness and compassion, both maintaining that he has an aggressive strategy for defeating ISIS while urging Americans to remain open to refugees who are fleeing from the terrorist group in Syria and Iraq.

am I wrong?


Its not the president's job to formulate military strategy...its his Joint Chief of Staff.  Obama is more about action than just talking and he's quieting authorized over 8000 airstrikes and attacks against the ISIS state.  Russia hasn't even broken 50 yet.  The number of dead terrorists is in the 6 figures. 

As far as refugees are concerned, a lot of people are equating them with being terrorist as well.  If they were terrorists...do you think they would be running for their lives with their children with absolutely nothing to their name?? 
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: _aj_ on November 22, 2015, 12:44:51 PM

Its not the president's job to formulate military strategy...its his Joint Chief of Staff.  Obama is more about action than just talking and he's quieting authorized over 8000 airstrikes and attacks against the ISIS state.  Russia hasn't even broken 50 yet.  The number of dead terrorists is in the 6 figures. 

As far as refugees are concerned, a lot of people are equating them with being terrorist as well.  If they were terrorists...do you think they would be running for their lives with their children with absolutely nothing to their name?? 

 ::)

Yeah, look at all the women and children...

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Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: The True Adonis on November 22, 2015, 12:45:43 PM
You pretty much have it right on and yes, in my opinion he is the worst President of all time.

He treats the Presidency like an academic exercise for him to experiment with all his radical ideas.  Unfortunately for us, there are real world consequences to his decisions.

If you guys think he is the worst president of all time, then you simply DO NOT know history at all.
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: mazrim on November 22, 2015, 12:49:50 PM
  As far as refugees are concerned, a lot of people are equating them with being terrorist as well.  If they were terrorists...do you think they would be running for their lives with their children with absolutely nothing to their name?? 
Of course they wouldn't do that I mean come on do we think any of them would blow themselves up for some virgins in the sky......or allow their children to do it? Nope that never happens. They always make perfect sense.
Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: HTexan on November 22, 2015, 12:51:20 PM
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Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: HTexan on November 22, 2015, 12:53:33 PM
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Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 22, 2015, 12:54:16 PM
::)

Yeah, look at all the women and children...

(http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/hungary-refugees-migration-crisis.jpg)


That's a protest in Hungary..... ::)  Here's actual Syrian refugees

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Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: HTexan on November 22, 2015, 12:55:01 PM
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Title: Re: Question For Americans About Obama
Post by: Set It Up on November 22, 2015, 01:29:37 PM
Obama says show compassion for Syrian refugees? I just dont understand this. Can anyone guarantee that there isn't (aren't) terrorist(s) in the refugees that come in?

Here is the way I look at it--I quit drinking 22 years ago because I said to myself "How will my life improve if I drink or do drugs?"---clearly it wont

How does American improve by letting in Syrian refugees? If there is no solid answer, why let them in? Fuck compassion, let every country sort their own shit out.

I'll never understand some shit in this world