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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html?_r=0
New York Times now pushing for gun confiscation of certain type of "assault weapons"
Get on the record now, how long before politicians start calling for confiscation? All out ban of guns?
I say within one year politicians are openly calling for confiscation of certain guns and within 3 they are calling for an outright ban of gun.
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They can call for whatever they want, but until the constitution is amended, they have no leg to stand on
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They can call for whatever they want, but until the constitution is amended, they have no leg to stand on
A constitutional amendment isn't needed to ban/confiscate certain guns...to ban/confiscate all guns ok but they have plenty of latitude to further restrict our right before they get to the point of needing to amend the constitution.
This thread is more about when politicians start openly calling for those things though
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Didn't Reagan and both bushes support the 94 assault weapons ban? Brady bill too?
Repubs today wouldn't cave like that.
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I think the best solution would be to install explosives in every American home. Then simultaneously you could all blow each other up and try to meet Jesus.
Then the Muslims and Mexicans could move in and take over completely.
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I think the best solution would be to install explosives in every American home. Then simultaneously you could all blow each other up and try to meet Jesus.
Then the Muslims and Mexicans could move in and take over completely.
I'm sorry your country sucks and you can't have more guns...but anyway. Everytime he spouts his bullshit the gun industry makes double their money. My buddy did 25K on Black Friday...its a small tactical store. You now have...on one side outright calls for gun confiscation and on the other a call by law enforcement for CCP holders to please carry their weapons. Yet another extreme postion Obama has created
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I'm sorry your country sucks and you can't have more guns...but anyway. Everytime he spouts his bullshit the gun industry makes double their money. My buddy did 25K on Black Friday...its a small tactical store. You now have...on one side outright calls for gun confiscation and on the other a call by law enforcement for CCP holders to please carry their weapons. Yet another extreme postion Obama has created
This is what pisses me off.
I want a new SIG and every damn time he says some shit, fucking gun prices and really more worrisome, ammo prices go through the damn roof.
I just want Obama to shut up about guns.
Fuck.
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That's the Chris Rock model of gun control
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That's the Chris Rock model of gun control
He always said we needed bullet control.
Looks like it's happened.
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I think the best solution would be to install explosives in every American home. Then simultaneously you could all blow each other up and try to meet Jesus.
Then the Muslims and Mexicans could move in and take over completely.
Let me guess you're Canadian
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A constitutional amendment isn't needed to ban/confiscate certain guns...to ban/confiscate all guns ok but they have plenty of latitude to further restrict our right before they get to the point of needing to amend the constitution.
This thread is more about when politicians start openly calling for those things though
Bullshit, the constitution does not specify what kind of gun you can have, only reason they can do this, is because we allow it. Look at miller vs united states the court basically said a weapon has to meet the requirements of a well regulated militia. Hmmmmmm, i guess that makes the assault weapon ban unconstitutional. As a matter of fact that means US citizens should have access to the same weapons as the military.
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Didn't Reagan and both bushes support the 94 assault weapons ban? Brady bill too?
Repubs today wouldn't cave like that.
Ionic but as this thread is about confiscation lets keep to the topic shall we
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Ionic but as this thread is about confiscation lets keep to the topic shall we
Deal. Which one of the branches of Govt contains the NY Times?
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Bullshit, the constitution does not specify what kind of gun you can have, only reason they can do this, is because we allow it. Look at miller vs united states the court basically said a weapon has to meet the requirements of a well regulated militia. Hmmmmmm, i guess that makes the assault weapon ban unconstitutional. As a matter of fact that means US citizens should have access to the same weapons as the military.
Yes they should.
That's what the 2nd Amendment is all about.
Being able to overthrow your government in a time of crisis if necessary.
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Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years - CNN.com
end of discussion
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/
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Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years - CNN.com
end of discussion
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/
technology helps a TON.
It used to be, some idiot with a gun could rob strangers and usually get away with it, particularly if he killed victim.
Now there is DNA evidence they leave behind. There are CCTV cameras everywhere. There are profilers and criminal databases and crimestoppers and facebook police alerts. And simply a crappy camera image from some nearby camera - placed on social media and shared - people get caught.
potential bad guys are more scared to get caught.
repeat bad guys do get caught.
and a shitload of us have permits, which bad guys fear the fck out of. Bubba sees someone doing a crime, bubba doesn't always follow the law. Bubba often 'stands his ground' and just wastes bad guy and lets his lawyer explain it away.
Bad guys have many new factors coming at them, and it's only getting worse!
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Deal. Which one of the branches of Govt contains the NY Times?
wtf are you talking about? Seriously stay on topic or piss off
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html?_r=0
New York Times now pushing for gun confiscation of certain type of "assault weapons"
Get on the record now, how long before politicians start calling for confiscation? All out ban of guns?
I say within one year politicians are openly calling for confiscation of certain guns and within 3 they are calling for an outright ban of gun.
I've been watching cable news for 2 decades. High school AP International relations class forced me to read newspaper daily, and I liked it. Annoying and whiny at times, but I'll take news over "Friends" reruns any day.
Like many things, it's cyclical. You're freaking out about "they'll be calling for a gun ban in 3 years". Nope. The same 3-4 out of 535 in congress will, but it ain't happening. Today's "outcry" is NOTHING like what we saw after columbine, etc, where they were making mainstream movies about it.
nothing will come of this, other than some politicians using it to raise money, some news outlets screaming to get clicks, and everyone will move on to another story. It'll keep repeating. Nobody is taking guns. Obama had congress and a mandate with his massive win, and he didn't touch shit. Any talk about republican congress letting it happen with a president hilary? No chance. it's just about money and headlines.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html?_r=0
New York Times now pushing for gun confiscation of certain type of "assault weapons"
Get on the record now, how long before politicians start calling for confiscation? All out ban of guns?
I say within one year politicians are openly calling for confiscation of certain guns and within 3 they are calling for an outright ban of gun.
This aggression will not stand. Vote republican.
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I've been watching cable news for 2 decades. High school AP International relations class forced me to read newspaper daily, and I liked it. Annoying and whiny at times, but I'll take news over "Friends" reruns any day.
Like many things, it's cyclical. You're freaking out about "they'll be calling for a gun ban in 3 years". Nope. The same 3-4 out of 535 in congress will, but it ain't happening. Today's "outcry" is NOTHING like what we saw after columbine, etc, where they were making mainstream movies about it.
nothing will come of this, other than some politicians using it to raise money, some news outlets screaming to get clicks, and everyone will move on to another story. It'll keep repeating. Nobody is taking guns. Obama had congress and a mandate with his massive win, and he didn't touch shit. Any talk about republican congress letting it happen with a president hilary? No chance. it's just about money and headlines.
That's not the point of the thread moron, the point is how long until they start calling for it?
Not if they ever get it passed but when they stop acting and pushing for confiscation
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That's not the point of the thread moron, the point is how long until they start calling for it?
until WHO starts "calling for it"?
The media has called for it for decades that I remember.
The elected officials? They "call for it" in 2 ways. 1) screaming on MSNBC to get donations from idiots, and 2) submitting legislation (the only way any of us are actually affected).
Can you list all of the legislation calling for a gun ban that's been submitted to congress this year? Thanks in advance.
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That's not the point of the thread moron, the point is how long until they start calling for it?
Not if they ever get it passed but when they stop acting and pushing for confiscation
you put way too much stock into the secret and potential intentions of politicians.
In 11 months, obama is giving speeches and spending money. He doesn't give a shit about guns. he is just blowing hot air to get his base rallied so they'll support'donate hilary. he had the congress and didn't touch guns, he sure ain't touching them with repub hosue and senate.
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you put way too much stock into the secret and potential intentions of politicians.
In 11 months, obama is giving speeches and spending money. He doesn't give a shit about guns. he is just blowing hot air to get his base rallied so they'll support'donate hilary. he had the congress and didn't touch guns, he sure ain't touching them with repub hosue and senate.
Sweet Jesus dumb ass stay on topic or piss off
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Sweet Jesus dumb ass stay on topic or piss off
okay.
how long before politicians start calling for confiscation? All out ban of guns?
I say within one year politicians are openly calling for confiscation of certain guns and within 3 they are calling for an outright ban of gun.
how many politicians have to call for it? At what level? Cause some local SanFran mayor trying to get headlines calling for gun ban, ain't the same as President hilary calling for it.
I mean, Brietbart and Drudge will overreact to the peon politicians screaming for it... but aside from scream and enjoy the right-wing platform for it... will their stupid words ever affect you?
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Obummer is going to make some kind of push for gun control similar to 2013 early next year, book it. if congress is not with him he will do some kind of EO bs.
the bigger threat tho is if Hillary wins...shes at least as radical as Obama and if she wins, their side will see it as having momentum and a 'mandate' and then shit will get real. many on the left- including her- are now openly talking about wanting confiscation; this is huge news because for decades they have been keeping this obvious desire secret and standing behind their chipping-away strategy, saying 'no one wants to take your guns' (parroted endlessly by their minions everywhere, including on this board). they have now let what we have been saying all along out into the open- that their end goal is in fact, confiscation/an end to the 2nd amendment.
they do not have the votes now but if hildabeast wins and the senate flips, they will go for it.
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Obummer is going to make some kind of push for gun control similar to 2013 early next year, book it. if congress is not with him he will do some kind of EO bs.
the bigger threat tho is if Hillary wins...shes at least as radical as Obama and if she wins, their side will see it as having momentum and a 'mandate' and then shit will get real. many on the left- including her- are now openly talking about wanting confiscation; this is huge news because for decades they have been keeping this obvious desire secret and standing behind their chipping-away strategy, saying 'no one wants to take your guns' (parroted endlessly by their minions everywhere, including on this board). they have now let what we have been saying all along out into the open- that their end goal is in fact, confiscation/an end to the 2nd amendment.
they do not have the votes now but if hildabeast wins and the senate flips, they will go for it.
Amending the constitution isn't an easy process, but they will push the envelope as far as they can.
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I think their strategy will just be to push as many ticky-tack regulations/fees/bureaucratic mess as they can to make anything gun-ownership related as onerous and expensive as possible, using EO's as much as necessary. if Hillary wins, this is what we can look forward to. if an American wins, all this mess will finally go away for a while.
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I think their strategy will just be to push as many ticky-tack regulations/fees/bureaucratic mess as they can to make anything gun-ownership related as onerous and expensive as possible, using EO's as much as necessary. if Hillary wins, this is what we can look forward to. if an American wins, all this mess will finally go away for a while.
Just to clarify, are you saying Hillary Clinton isn't an American?
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Just to clarify, are you saying Hillary Clinton isn't an American?
technically she is of course, but her core ideology is not American, and she does not believe in American exceptionalism and cares little for American sovereignty nor for the constitution, so I don't consider her to be pro-American in any real sense. like Obama she is 'citizen of the world' type globalist leftist loon.
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technically she is of course, but her core ideology is not American, and she does not believe in American exceptionalism and cares little for American sovereignty nor for the constitution, so I don't consider her to be pro-American in any real sense. like Obama she is 'citizen of the world' type globalist leftist loon.
This may be, however a lot of Citizens of the US seem to agree with her on a lot of things.
I don't agree with gun control on any level, but apparently a lot of fucking people in the US do.
I don't understand it, and I feel like everyone around me is crazy, but a lot of people are on board.
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This may be, however a lot of Citizens of the US seem to agree with her on a lot of things.
I don't agree with gun control on any level, but apparently a lot of fucking people in the US do.
I don't understand it, and I feel like everyone around me is crazy, but a lot of people are on board.
1) They don't know history
2) They are pepper with the leftist crap 24/7 by the news
3) They have guilt, and are looking for some cause to give their life meaning
4) They are young, have had everything handed to them
5) They come from a zero responsibility generation, so its not the persons fault its and inanimate object
6) They are just plain ignorant
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I'm glad that its finally out there....people can see what the libs stand for. I'm also shocked at the amount of senior law enforcement from around the country that are almost demanding that CCP folks actually carry.
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This crap will die down.
Most reasonable people know making guns illegal wouldn't stop any of what has happened.
Assault weapons bans will come and go.
New laws will be proposed to make it look like something is being done.
There will always be some left retard calling for gun bans. There will always be pacifists supporting it.
And it will, when tragedy strikes, be newsworthy.
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I'm glad that its finally out there....people can see what the libs stand for. I'm also shocked at the amount of senior law enforcement from around the country that are almost demanding that CCP folks actually carry.
I'm glad. I wish they would promote more open carry.
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Open carry in Texas and Florida.
Wouldn't be surprised if more follow.
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Open carry in Texas and Florida.
Wouldn't be surprised if more follow.
Virginia also has open carry.
My home state has done well.
I like my states purple. 8)
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Virginia - In Virginia, the open carrying of certain handguns is prohibited in specific populous cities and counties
53.Virginia prohibits the open carrying of certain types of loaded rifles and shotguns in specific populous cities and counties.
Just be careful..no sense in getting your crap taken. I'm not open carrying when Texas goes into affect. I might go from carrying my .40 to my sig king scorpion .45 as people won't freak as much....but its kinda stupid otherwise.
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Virginia - In Virginia, the open carrying of certain handguns is prohibited in specific populous cities and counties
53.Virginia prohibits the open carrying of certain types of loaded rifles and shotguns in specific populous cities and counties.
Just be careful..no sense in getting your crap taken. I'm not open carrying when Texas goes into affect. I might go from carrying my .40 to my sig king scorpion .45 as people won't freak as much....but its kinda stupid otherwise.
Yeah, there are some city and county ordinances. Most people just become criminals then.
It's stupid, but that's what it is.
I'm pretty much Charlton Heston about it.
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This crap will die down.
Most reasonable people know making guns illegal wouldn't stop any of what has happened.
Assault weapons bans will come and go.
New laws will be proposed to make it look like something is being done.
There will always be some left retard calling for gun bans. There will always be pacifists supporting it.
And it will, when tragedy strikes, be newsworthy.
There is a difference between a ban and confiscation, previous bans have not confiscated any guns...confiscation is a different animal
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I'm glad that its finally out there....people can see what the libs stand for. I'm also shocked at the amount of senior law enforcement from around the country that are almost demanding that CCP folks actually carry.
Hendry county sheriff in FL said it. My social feeds are on fire with people loving and sharing it. I love it.
Ya know what else I love? Whenever there is an attack (which I do hate), I am very proud to see the local law enforcement response. All over schools, grocery stores... eyes up, being vigilant, invovled and guarding our society. I love it. Before this, cops were usually in their cars, drinking coffee, eyes on phones and laptops. They're being vigiliant now. Love it.
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I've decided to go into law enforcement after I retire next year....no coffee and donuts for me.
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There is a difference between a ban and confiscation, previous bans have not confiscated any guns...confiscation is a different animal
Its a liberal drum beat that's non stop at times like this. And most rational people roll their eyes or are easily dissuaded from buying into some of these stupid proposals by simple cause and correlation propaganda. for example: Let's out law guns like we outlawed meth because it works so well. They are not going to go around taking guns. Of course, gun manufacturers love it. Sales are probably going to jump up again this year.
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Its a liberal drum beat that's non stop at times like this. And most rational people roll their eyes or are easily dissuaded from buying into some of these stupid proposals by simple cause and correlation propaganda. for example: Let's out law guns like we outlawed meth because it works so well. They are not going to go around taking guns. Of course, gun manufacturers love it. Sales are probably going to jump up again this year.
And so we assault weapons bans until a few years ago, the issue is the stupidity is ever increasing and as we've seen in the past stupidity can be passed given the right circumstances
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Of course, gun manufacturers love it. Sales are probably going to jump up again this year.
It's likely gun sales in 2015 will be the biggest year in US history. $$$$$
http://time.com/4138559/gun-sales-san-bernardino-mass-shooting/
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um.....
you guys do know that firearm deaths are down considerably in the last 20 years right???
yet nobody mentioned even a peep about gun ban till recently...