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Title: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2015, 08:22:15 PM
http://thepatriotnation.net/glenn-beck-goes-nuclear-on-obama-youre-the-dumbest-son-of-a-bitch-on-the-planet/
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: hardgainerj on December 07, 2015, 08:54:47 PM
he would be dumb if he puts troops on the ground in the levant
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 07, 2015, 08:58:19 PM
http://thepatriotnation.net/glenn-beck-goes-nuclear-on-obama-youre-the-dumbest-son-of-a-bitch-on-the-planet/

you need to make up your mind on Beck.  I listen to him all the time, and he's just as hard on republicans as he is on obama.

Two months ago, Beck said any tea party members that support trump are RACIST!

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/15/glenn-beck-tea-partiers-who-support-donald-trump-are-racist/

So when Beck calls Obama a "dumb SOB", he's accurate... but when obama calls tea party repubs who support trump 'racists'.... is he right then too?

*do you even listen to beck?*   
*did you support tea party candidates?*
*do you support trump in 2016?*
*Is beck maybe going just a little bit crazy these days?*
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2015, 09:24:57 PM
you need to make up your mind on Beck.  I listen to him all the time, and he's just as hard on republicans as he is on obama.

Two months ago, Beck said any tea party members that support trump are RACIST!

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/15/glenn-beck-tea-partiers-who-support-donald-trump-are-racist/

So when Beck calls Obama a "dumb SOB", he's accurate... but when obama calls tea party repubs who support trump 'racists'.... is he right then too?

*do you even listen to beck?*   
*did you support tea party candidates?*
*do you support trump in 2016?*
*Is beck maybe going just a little bit crazy these days?*

Seriously, what the fuck does anything you're saying have anything to do with what Beck just said? You're melting by the post because this useless cock-sucker (and from what I've heard that could be in the literal sense) Obama is absolutely 1000000% apart of the problem. Are you saying he's wrong? He's expressing basically what normal people with commonsense are thinking.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2015, 09:27:07 PM
You keep bringing up as though i give two fucks about him (Trump) but even YOU can't deny he's right 90% of the time.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: D_1000 on December 07, 2015, 09:32:53 PM
Seriously, what the fuck does anything you're saying have anything to do with what Beck just said? You're melting by the post because this useless cock-sucker (and from what I've heard that could be in the literal sense) Obama is absolutely 1000000% apart of the problem. Are you saying he's wrong? He's expressing basically what normal people with commonsense are thinking.

Ah, got to love the foaming at the mouth Getbig rants, those are the best.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on December 07, 2015, 09:48:41 PM
http://thepatriotnation.net/glenn-beck-goes-nuclear-on-obama-youre-the-dumbest-son-of-a-bitch-on-the-planet/
Look what we have here. A retard listening to a retard.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2015, 10:02:10 PM
Look what we have here. A retard listening to a retard.

And you can't make one competent argument for anything I post. Coward.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 07, 2015, 10:10:37 PM
Seriously, what the fuck does anything you're saying have anything to do with what Beck just said? You're melting by the post because this useless cock-sucker (and from what I've heard that could be in the literal sense) Obama is absolutely 1000000% apart of the problem. Are you saying he's wrong? He's expressing basically what normal people with commonsense are thinking.

Beck said 2 things.

1) Tea partiers that support trump are racist.
2) Obama is a dumb SOB.

Was he just wrong about none, some, or all?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 07, 2015, 10:43:41 PM
Beck said 2 things.

1) Tea partiers that support trump are racist.
2) Obama is a dumb SOB.

Was he just wrong about none, some, or all?

1. Provide unbiased link to the first accusation.

2. Yes, Obama is one dumb sob that we have ZERO use for and the world would be an absolute better place if he dropped off the planet this minute.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Nick Danger on December 07, 2015, 11:13:31 PM
1. Provide unbiased link to the first accusation.

2. Yes, Obama is one dumb sob that we have ZERO use for and the world would be an absolute better place if he dropped off the planet this minute.

Not to get dragged into your political philosophies but...

1.The President of the United States is undoubtedly much smarter than you.

2. If there is "ZERO" use for said President, how far into the negatives must we dive to find the use for a lifting coach?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Mitch on December 07, 2015, 11:17:06 PM
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Skeletor on December 07, 2015, 11:23:24 PM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=51.0
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 08, 2015, 12:02:21 AM
1. Provide unbiased link to the first accusation.

I posted Breitbart.   Did you read it?  Breitbart is VERY conservative. 

you need to make up your mind on Beck.  I listen to him all the time, and he's just as hard on republicans as he is on obama.
Two months ago, Beck said any tea party members that support trump are RACIST!

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/15/glenn-beck-tea-partiers-who-support-donald-trump-are-racist/
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: WOOO on December 08, 2015, 01:46:05 AM
Seriously, what the fuck does anything you're saying have anything to do with what Beck just said? You're melting by the post because this useless cock-sucker (and from what I've heard that could be in the literal sense) Obama is absolutely 1000000% apart of the problem. Are you saying he's wrong? He's expressing basically what normal people with commonsense are thinking.


Epic meltdown. Get your BP checked.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Raymondo on December 08, 2015, 01:53:23 AM
Last time Coach melted so hard was when someone exposed his lie about a scholarship offer to his son.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: WOOO on December 08, 2015, 01:57:41 AM
Last time Coach melted so hard was when someone exposed his lie about a scholarship offer to his son.


Sometimes he worries me for real. Seems like he's legitimately pissed.

That's not healthy.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 08, 2015, 02:35:41 AM
And you can't make one competent argument for anything I post. Coward.

Joe you don't post anything, ever. You copy and paste links, you never give your actual opinion, or thoughtful insight. You literally just post a link and assume everyone gets your point, this isn't uncommon, it's all you do.

You then will derail your very own thread if someone makes a valid point, are you able to actually have an adult like discussion? You seem to literally hate Obama, calling him a cock sucker, dirty muslim (why is that fine? pretty fucked up if your serious, there are a lot of very fine muslim people), homosexual (is married with children, again why would that be bad? if it's an affair sure). Are you racist? you sure seem like you are.

The US is doing better economically, he can't be trying to destroy the country, if he is, he is doing a terrible job. He has cut military spending, focused on the environment (it's more important then our economy, the economy relies on it), recovered the US the fastest of the G7 countries, ended discrimination against gays (I know you think this is bad, but discrimination is always bad mmkay?..good discrimination is..... discrimination) and more. He has made some errors, his handling of ISIS, while in line with what i think is best (no troops or minimal, drones or airstrikes until if/when it fails), some argue otherwise. I can't see the point of wasting more money (the US has it's own issues, it's absurd when juxtaposed) and lives 1000's of km's away.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: SquidVicious on December 08, 2015, 02:58:57 AM
Last time Coach melted so hard was when someone exposed his lie about a scholarship offer to his son.
That was a PARTIAL scholarship. And his son was the only person to receive one in Division I history. And it's a secret. Just between Coach and the school. Like a Freemason partial NCAA division I college football scholarship. Still, he may be a bit overly proud as a poppa but he's got common sense and a moral compass unlike the liberal tools here.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 08, 2015, 08:12:05 AM
That was a PARTIAL scholarship. And his son was the only person to receive one in Division I history. And it's a secret. Just between Coach and the school. Like a Freemason partial NCAA division I college football scholarship. Still, he may be a bit overly proud as a poppa but he's got common sense and a moral compass unlike the liberal tools here.

 A moral compass? lying about shit is having morals?

lol, you people, no morals would be telling the truth, facing reality and not lying.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Option D on December 08, 2015, 08:14:03 AM
1. Provide unbiased link to the first accusation.

2. Yes, Obama is one dumb sob that we have ZERO use for and the world would be an absolute better place if he dropped off the planet this minute.

this post is hilarious
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 08, 2015, 08:17:46 AM
this post is hilarious

I posted an exact "unbiased" link from BREITBART.   Suddenly he realized that his heroic source, beck, recently called Tea party supporters who like Trump... well, he called them RACISTS.

It's all *crickets* suddenly.   ???
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: doison on December 08, 2015, 08:19:32 AM
Beck said 2 things.

1) Tea partiers that support trump are racist.
2) Obama is a dumb SOB.

Was he just wrong about none, some, or all?

Because it's common for people to be right about everything
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: hardgainerj on December 08, 2015, 08:20:20 AM
unlike the liberal tools here.
haha such an exaggeration  
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Nick Danger on December 08, 2015, 09:47:47 AM
Obama Coach bitch slapped yet again.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2015, 11:00:28 AM
Joe you don't post anything, ever. You copy and paste links, you never give your actual opinion, or thoughtful insight. You literally just post a link and assume everyone gets your point, this isn't uncommon, it's all you do.

You then will derail your very own thread if someone makes a valid point, are you able to actually have an adult like discussion? You seem to literally hate Obama, calling him a cock sucker, dirty muslim (why is that fine? pretty fucked up if your serious, there are a lot of very fine muslim people), homosexual (is married with children, again why would that be bad? if it's an affair sure). Are you racist? you sure seem like you are.

The US is doing better economically, he can't be trying to destroy the country, if he is, he is doing a terrible job. He has cut military spending, focused on the environment (it's more important then our economy, the economy relies on it), recovered the US the fastest of the G7 countries, ended discrimination against gays (I know you think this is bad, but discrimination is always bad mmkay?..good discrimination is..... discrimination) and more. He has made some errors, his handling of ISIS, while in line with what i think is best (no troops or minimal, drones or airstrikes until if/when it fails), some argue otherwise. I can't see the point of wasting more money (the US has it's own issues, it's absurd when juxtaposed) and lives 1000's of km's away.

I don't post my opinion? That was such a ridiculous comment I'm not even going to dignify responding to the rest your post. Hahahahahahahahahha.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 08, 2015, 11:01:51 AM
That was a PARTIAL scholarship. And his son was the only person to receive one in Division I history. And it's a secret. Just between Coach and the school. Like a Freemason partial NCAA division I college football scholarship. Still, he may be a bit overly proud as a poppa but he's got common sense and a moral compass unlike the liberal tools here.

lol....ok. Whatever you say.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: WOOO on December 08, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
I don't post my opinion? That was such a ridiculous comment I'm not even going to dignify responding to the rest your post. Hahahahahahahahahha.



Wait. What was the hahahahahahhahahahaha in response to?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 08, 2015, 04:51:25 PM
I don't post my opinion? That was such a ridiculous comment I'm not even going to dignify responding to the rest your post. Hahahahahahahahahha.

this is the perfect response, I rest my case.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: liberalismo on December 09, 2015, 03:15:52 AM
http://thepatriotnation.net/glenn-beck-goes-nuclear-on-obama-youre-the-dumbest-son-of-a-bitch-on-the-planet/

Glenn Beck lacks any credibility to ever "bitch slap" the leader of the free world. He's a talking head. Nothing more. He's nobody.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Raymondo on December 09, 2015, 05:10:23 AM
Although Coach is Back threatened to expose me (and I could do the same to him in certain aspects) for making fun of his boyfriend (Pete Carroll), his son is a good kid. Ive met him on a few occasions and had good conversations with him. Good looking kid, polite, and seems to be less brainwashed than Coach regarding his beliefs.  ;D ;D ;) ;)

I don't know if his kid got a scholarship or not. I would have never gotten a scholarship for sports, so I don't know anything about that shit. Well, maybe if I continued to play hockey, as I was quite good. All parents want to be proud of their children, for whatever reasons.

If a parent is proud, why does he lie about his son's achievements?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 09, 2015, 06:34:06 AM
Another daily example of Coach reminding us that he is the dumbest person on GetBig.  Least we even forget it for a moment. 
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: disco_stu on December 09, 2015, 11:15:42 AM
Seriously, what the fuck does anything you're saying have anything to do with what Beck just said? You're melting by the post because this useless cock-sucker (and from what I've heard that could be in the literal sense) Obama is absolutely 1000000% apart of the problem. Are you saying he's wrong? He's expressing basically what normal people with commonsense are thinking.

obama is about 50 IQ points ahead of you.

people like you saying obama is dumb is classic ignorance from the blissfully intellectually average. you have no appreciation for the difficulties involved in finding compromises in the complex world of competing purposes and what it takes to define a position and deliver an outcome. For you, and your kind, it is "simple" and "easy", and "obvious". anyone who has watched and listened to Obama recognises an individual that it highly articulate, educated and intellectually sharp- and is balanced and measured in delivery.

the people who tag him as stupid are ironically that very thing. unfortunately you arent alone. purely logically, 50% of the population are dumber than average, which means lots of people form ignorant opinions that are so simple that they are inappropriate for solving real tricky problems.

additionally, those people cant be objective, and are keen to get onboard with causes that further their own interests- as well as conveniently allocating blame to a single person. They are completely ignorant that politics involve parties and weight of numbers and that the president rarely has an over riding position.

i could go on and explain how politics and government works, but you cant explain these things to certain people. if logic was to prevail though, the judgement of a person who makes a living in gyms should be given very little thought over that of someone who has party consensus as well as cross party support for decisions made- from a host of well qualified, educated people.

Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2015, 11:21:31 AM
obama is about 50 IQ points ahead of you.

people like you saying obama is dumb is classic ignorance from the blissfully intellectually average. you have no appreciation for the difficulties involved in finding compromises in the complex world of competing purposes and what it takes to define a position and deliver an outcome. For you, and your kind, it is "simple" and "easy", and "obvious". anyone who has watched and listened to Obama recognises an individual that it highly articulate, educated and intellectually sharp- and is balanced and measured in delivery.

the people who tag him as stupid are ironically that very thing. unfortunately you arent alone. purely logically, 50% of the population are dumber than average, which means lots of people form ignorant opinions that are so simple that they are inappropriate for solving real tricky problems.

additionally, those people cant be objective, and are keen to get onboard with causes that further their own interests- as well as conveniently allocating blame to a single person. They are completely ignorant that politics involve parties and weight of numbers and that the president rarely has an over riding position.

i could go on and explain how politics and government works, but you cant explain these things to certain people. if logic was to prevail though, the judgement of a person who makes a living in gyms should be given very little thought over that of someone who has party consensus as well as cross party support for decisions made- from a host of well qualified, educated people.



Yet like most liberals he has zero commonsense. Btw, didn't read past the first line.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 09, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Dear mods,
Just like A'retardo once did, Coach likes to pollute the G&O with new threads almost every fucking day. So I would like to suggest that you merge all of his threads and call it 'Joe Marino's Random Ramblings'
Is that a good idea?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 09, 2015, 11:51:25 AM
Yet like most liberals he has zero commonsense. Btw, didn't read past the first line.

This is exactly what I was talking about, you just resort to non-sense, saying you don't understand or I won't take the time etc. Do us all a favour and stop posting. You post a copy and paste with something stupid and won't even respond to criticism, what's the point Joe?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 09, 2015, 01:41:03 PM
Yet like most liberals he has zero commonsense. Btw, didn't read past the first line.

With the IQ of a gnat, I am not surprised you couldn't make it past the first line.

Hell, you are too stupid to even post this in the proper forum.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Skeletor on December 09, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
This is exactly what I was talking about, you just resort to non-sense, saying you don't understand or I won't take the time etc. Do us all a favour and stop posting. You post a copy and paste with something stupid and won't even respond to criticism, what's the point Joe?


"You just don't get it, do you".
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 09, 2015, 03:10:25 PM
"You just don't get it, do you".


HAHAHAHAHA

libs this
libs that


*insert random bullshit link that backfires here*
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: absfabs on December 09, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
http://thepatriotnation.net/glenn-beck-goes-nuclear-on-obama-youre-the-dumbest-son-of-a-bitch-on-the-planet/

Beck for VP under Trump, alex jones sec state, rand paul for fed cahirman
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 09, 2015, 07:50:48 PM
All these new alex jones fans... Trump and AJ doing friendly interviews... all these new repubs loving alex jones.

Do your homework.  He has blamed Bush for 911 for a decade.  He's the biggest anti-republican on earth (also an anti-dem).  He's just cashing in on trump, writing all these friendly trump pieces because, as ari flesicher of the bush white house said, TRUMP IS A 911 TRUTHER.

Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 09, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
This is exactly what I was talking about, you just resort to non-sense, saying you don't understand or I won't take the time etc. Do us all a favour and stop posting. You post a copy and paste with something stupid and won't even respond to criticism, what's the point Joe?


I won't because this is the only answers you can come with is to try to demonize. This is what all liberals do and this is a fact. Won't respond to criticism? Bitch please. I'm hated on here because I DO respond, speak the truth and say what's on my mind OPENLY, not as a gimmick and not hiding behind a computer. Next to Josh I'm probably the most open about my identity on here. You, Lurker and the rest don't have anything to say. You clowns cut and paste your left wing bullshit that REALLY makes no sense. Global warming causes terrorism? Seriously??? I can name a shit load that you spew that doesn't make sense. From business, to taxes to just about anything the left has to say. I will say this. I would be a lot more objective if my predictions of Obama that I made back in 08' didnt not only come true but fuck, they came true 10 fold and one hell of a lot worse that ANYONE suspected. Geezus you're a delusional fuck.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Mclovin on December 09, 2015, 09:42:38 PM
I won't because this is the only answers you can come with is to try to demonize. This is what all liberals do and this is a fact. Won't respond to criticism? Bitch please. I'm hated on here because I DO respond, speak the truth and say what's on my mind OPENLY, not as a gimmick and not hiding behind a computer. Next to Josh I'm probably the most open about my identity on here. You, Lurker and the rest don't have anything to say. You clowns cut and paste your left wing bullshit that REALLY makes no sense. Global warming causes terrorism? Seriously??? I can name a shit load that you spew that doesn't make sense. From business, to taxes to just about anything the left has to say. I will say this. I would be a lot more objective if my predictions of Obama that I made back in 08' didnt not only come true but fuck, they came true 10 fold and one hell of a lot worse that ANYONE suspected. Geezus you're a delusional fuck.

Just curious, but what were the predictions you made in 08 about Obama?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on December 09, 2015, 09:53:56 PM
Yet like most liberals he has zero commonsense. Btw, didn't read past the first line.
I think you mean you were unable to read past the 1st line.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 10, 2015, 12:22:33 AM
I think you mean you were unable to read past the 1st line.

It amazes me that he was able to start a business. So I guess a good friend of him does all the paper work...
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2015, 03:23:11 AM
I won't because this is the only answers you can come with is to try to demonize. This is what all liberals do and this is a fact. Won't respond to criticism? Bitch please. I'm hated on here because I DO respond, speak the truth and say what's on my mind OPENLY, not as a gimmick and not hiding behind a computer. Next to Josh I'm probably the most open about my identity on here. You, Lurker and the rest don't have anything to say. You clowns cut and paste your left wing bullshit that REALLY makes no sense. Global warming causes terrorism? Seriously??? I can name a shit load that you spew that doesn't make sense. From business, to taxes to just about anything the left has to say. I will say this. I would be a lot more objective if my predictions of Obama that I made back in 08' didnt not only come true but fuck, they came true 10 fold and one hell of a lot worse that ANYONE suspected. Geezus you're a delusional fuck.

Of course your answers will be scrutinized, they are either sensible or not.

I am not a liberal, but ok Joe, ALL OF THE ARE THE SAME. same with all republicans, everyone is exactly the same. You are hated because you are stupid and

 proudly ignorant.



The vast majority of my posts are written, why are you accussing me of what you do as if that makes it better?

Global warming in an indirect way can cause terrorism, the military stated this. Reason being it will reduce resources increasing conflict and the source of terrorism.It's doesn't mean warmer weather causes people to kill each other. We just had record droughts worldwide, companies like Nestle are privatizing water, resources will only reduce, it's a logical consequence. Either way, that has nothing to do with my charge of you being a manic simpleton.


Joe you aren't making points, how am I delusional? what is my position on taxes (I pay way more than you by the way, 50% roughly), you are just ranting, making no sense, hoping from thing to thing, telling me what I think and my positions.

Look at this sentence


"I would be a lot more objective if my predictions of Obama that I made back in 08' didnt not only come true but fuck, they came true 10 fold and one hell of a lot worse that ANYONE suspected. Geezus you're a delusional fuck. "

I am accusing you of being simple and posting non-sense, this is an example. What are you talking about?  what does that have to do with you posting a link and then refusing to address anyone in the thread you created, I don't see the point.

It isn't worse then anyone expected, Unemployment sunk twice as fast as romney's best prediction, how is that worse? ACA was suppose to cripple the nation, yet, most real economic measures show substantial improvements, particularly when compared to the other G7 countries.


The US is doing well, very well in most noteworthy areas, relative to it's cousins. This is my point Joe, you have your mind already made up, do you have ADHD? the way you are all over the place reminds me of this, plus you never read anything. That is a serious question, not meaning to be an asshole (the above was).
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2015, 04:27:59 AM
All these new alex jones fans... Trump and AJ doing friendly interviews... all these new repubs loving alex jones.

Do your homework.  He has blamed Bush for 911 for a decade.  He's the biggest anti-republican on earth (also an anti-dem).  He's just cashing in on trump, writing all these friendly trump pieces because, as ari flesicher of the bush white house said, TRUMP IS A 911 TRUTHER.

Nationally, Trump is at 35% this morning.   Strongest position he's had yet.  over 1/3 of republican base wants the guy who imitates handicapped people & wants to ban Muslims from entering our country.  Tells us who they really are.

Cruz at 16%, Carson at 13%.  Rubio 9%.  Bush 3%.

Looks like the republican nominee is likely to be a 911 truther (yes, Ari Fleischer called him one) and an Obama Kenya Birth Certificate Birther.  A conspiracy theory president.  He received an endorsement from infowars/prisonplanet.  I don't think you caught that, Coach.   The 911 CT website run by Alex Jones released: WHY DONALD TRUMP IS THE BEST CANDIDATE
http://www.infowars.com/why-donald-trump-is-the-best-candidate/

At this point, Trump has been endorsed by his good buddy and the BIGGEST 911 truther in America.   That's the guy all the repubs are loving on.  Be careful what you wish for ;)  You may end up with a 911 Truther in the White house, coach.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2015, 06:25:40 AM
HAHAHAHA.  Poor Coach.  Having to use the same excuses and canned lines over and over after getting his ass handed to him.

Takes a lot of hard work to be so stupid apparently.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2015, 09:57:00 AM
Of course your answers will be scrutinized, they are either sensible or not.

I am not a liberal, but ok Joe, ALL OF THE ARE THE SAME. same with all republicans, everyone is exactly the same. You are hated because you are stupid and

 proudly ignorant.



The vast majority of my posts are written, why are you accussing me of what you do as if that makes it better?

Global warming in an indirect way can cause terrorism, the military stated this. Reason being it will reduce resources increasing conflict and the source of terrorism.It's doesn't mean warmer weather causes people to kill each other. We just had record droughts worldwide, companies like Nestle are privatizing water, resources will only reduce, it's a logical consequence. Either way, that has nothing to do with my charge of you being a manic simpleton.


Joe you aren't making points, how am I delusional? what is my position on taxes (I pay way more than you by the way, 50% roughly), you are just ranting, making no sense, hoping from thing to thing, telling me what I think and my positions.

Look at this sentence


"I would be a lot more objective if my predictions of Obama that I made back in 08' didnt not only come true but fuck, they came true 10 fold and one hell of a lot worse that ANYONE suspected. Geezus you're a delusional fuck. "

I am accusing you of being simple and posting non-sense, this is an example. What are you talking about?  what does that have to do with you posting a link and then refusing to address anyone in the thread you created, I don't see the point.

It isn't worse then anyone expected, Unemployment sunk twice as fast as romney's best prediction, how is that worse? ACA was suppose to cripple the nation, yet, most real economic measures show substantial improvements, particularly when compared to the other G7 countries.


The US is doing well, very well in most noteworthy areas, relative to it's cousins. This is my point Joe, you have your mind already made up, do you have ADHD? the way you are all over the place reminds me of this, plus you never read anything. That is a serious question, not meaning to be an asshole (the above was).

And THIS is what I mean. This is where you lack the commonsense. Obama and Bernie Sanders both said "global warming" was the cause of terrorism. That in itself is one of the most ridiculous statements that anyone has heard (except those on the left) regarding this. Not because they hate us because they consider us infidels and want to kill us at all costs...no, it's because of "global warming" BUT, if we cater to them, give them what they want, negotiate and kiss their asses they'll back off. And here's where the commonsense in once again....they won't do any of that. They want to kill us NO MATTER WHAT you CANNOT negotiate with them, they will not listen they wake up everyday chanting death to America and anyone that doesn't conform to their beliefs. "Global warming" my ass.

Want to pick another subject that doesn't make sense. Go ahead.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
BTW, here you go. Lets release more and close it down. Fuck!!


http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/12/ex-guantanamo-detainee-now-an-al-qaeda-leader-in-yemen.php


Yes necrosis, the left and Obama are delusional.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on December 10, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Between Necrosis and Disco_Stu ... ouch. I like Coach, but he's not very " in tune " politically. Quite frankly, Obama is the furthest thing from a " pussy " and " dumb sob " that one can get. I don't necessarily agree with everything he does, however, I do feel he does the best he can given the circumstances. Seeing as how most our country consist of illiterate idiots ... well, they'll never understand his methods in a million years. Nor politics as a whole. :/

Anyways, I could go on and on, but the above 2 posters covered it all and then some. Very impressed with you 2.  Wonderful posts.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2015, 10:11:40 AM
BTW, here you go. Lets release more and close it down. Fuck!!
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/12/ex-guantanamo-detainee-now-an-al-qaeda-leader-in-yemen.php
Yes necrsis, the left and Obama are delusional.

I was shocked Obama let this dude go.  One of the bin laden dirty 30, and one of the original Bush-funded taleban back in 1990... this guy was bad news all the way.   Poor choice by obama, even if the guy did snitch and deliver a ton of intel on bad guys.  Do you have the link to obama's personal involvement in this, or was his release just a military decision?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2015, 11:17:29 AM
And THIS is what I mean. This is where you lack the commonsense. Obama and Bernie Sanders both said "global warming" was the cause of terrorism. That in itself is one of the most ridiculous statements that anyone has heard (except those on the left) regarding this. Not because they hate us because they consider us infidels and want to kill us at all costs...no, it's because of "global warming" BUT, if we cater to them, give them what they want, negotiate and kiss their asses they'll back off. And here's where the commonsense in once again....they won't do any of that. They want to kill us NO MATTER WHAT you CANNOT negotiate with them, they will not listen they wake up everyday chanting death to America and anyone that doesn't conform to their beliefs. "Global warming" my ass.

Want to pick another subject that doesn't make sense. Go ahead.

They said global warming was the cause of terrorism? find me that quote, that's absolutely absurd, no one in their right mind would say tha.

I have a hard time believing they think global warming not resource scarcity, poverty, power vacuums , fundamentalism isn't a more direct cause, of course it's not common sense, no one believes what you are saying they do, you are lying.

Obama has launched more airstrikes then bush ever did, they are raping ISIS, yet you think they are focusing on global warming as the cause? Joe, why would Obama, a radical muslim who goes to church nearing the end of his SECOND term, bomb his brethren, you are acting like he is doing nothing, lol. No one wants troops on the ground, it's idiotic, enough young people have died fighting the war on "terror", we are fighting fear with human bodies, lol.

Bombing them obviously doesn't work, you aren't going to kill an idea, and until the real problems in the region are addressed (inequality, fundamentalism) nothing will change. How long have we been bombing and waging war in the middle east? it's never ending, you think we need to be more aggressive? are we talking vietnam aggression? FOR WHAT? the crips have cause more harm on US soil then ISIS has, you are acting like they are running around in the streets killing americans.

Putin is surely going to wipe them completely out right?  ::), no more terror coming up guys, we killed some muslims.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 10, 2015, 11:20:02 AM
BTW, here you go. Lets release more and close it down. Fuck!!


http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/12/ex-guantanamo-detainee-now-an-al-qaeda-leader-in-yemen.php


Yes necrosis, the left and Obama are delusional.

what does this have to do with anything? it's completely different, a prison, i am sure it's more complicated then obama let him out to go join Al qaeda, Obama sure is a hands on president? He watches people die in real time in benghazi, is personally releasing prisoners ....

Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: The Ugly on December 10, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
My common sense tells me "common sense" is, and always has been, TWO f'n words.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: SF1900 on December 10, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
Dear mods,
Just like A'retardo once did, Coach likes to pollute the G&O with new threads almost every fucking day. So I would like to suggest that you merge all of his threads and call it 'Joe Marino's Random Ramblings'
Is that a good idea?

A large portion of political threads are coming from Musclearny.

His account was registered in 2005, now all of a sudden he starts posting. I wonder who is behind the account.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 10, 2015, 12:42:40 PM
A large portion of political threads are coming from Musclearny.

His account was registered in 2005, now all of a sudden he starts posting. I wonder who is behind the account.

Sounds like a gimmick-back up, but I have no clue who's behind this.

I don't mind most random shit in the G&O, but it would be a blessing when all (pseudo-) political & religious debates are moved to the sections where they belong.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Mclovin on December 10, 2015, 05:31:40 PM
Coach, what specific economic policies do you disagree with Obama on, and what would you do differently if you were in charge?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 10, 2015, 05:53:07 PM
HAHAHAHA.  This manlet just can't keep his head out of his ass.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2015, 08:51:31 PM
Coach, what specific economic policies do you disagree with Obama on, and what would you do differently if you were in charge?

Let's reverse this question to everyone that agrees (not saying you do) with Obamas policies. Would you personally handle your business or Personal finances the same way Obama handles this countries finances?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: dr.chimps on December 10, 2015, 09:05:11 PM
Let's reverse this question to everyone that agrees (not saying you do) with Obamas policies. Would you personally handle your business or Personal finances the same way Obama handles this countries finances?
Well, if you define personal finances as marital relations, I'd take him over you, every time.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2015, 09:09:36 PM
Well, if you define personal finances as marital relations, I'd take him over you, every time.

Got it! You can't answer it either and I consider you one of the more intelligent liberals. Where are the ones that can't answer a question but seem just fine with calling me out.  Lurker, Dropping 21/2's, Necrosis..
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2015, 09:16:48 PM
Let's reverse this question to everyone that agrees (not saying you do) with Obamas policies. Would you personally handle your business or Personal finances the same way Obama handles this countries finances?

Does this Q apply to Rubio (used the party credit card illegally then sold his retirement packages to pay it off) OR Trump (whose companies declared bankruptcy 4x, and who actually SHRUNK value of his inheritance over decades)?

or just to obama?   I get it, if that's the case.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
Does this Q apply to Rubio (used the party credit card illegally then sold his retirement packages to pay it off) OR Trump (whose companies declared bankruptcy 4x, and who actually SHRUNK value of his inheritance over decades)?

or just to obama?   I get it, if that's the case.

Answer the question for fucks sake.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: TuHolmes on December 10, 2015, 09:23:11 PM
Let's reverse this question to everyone that agrees (not saying you do) with Obamas policies. Would you personally handle your business or Personal finances the same way Obama handles this countries finances?

The answer is no.

However, let me ask you this in return.

Who was the last President who handle the country's finances like you would handle yours?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2015, 09:25:28 PM
The answer is no.
thanks for that. All I wanted was a yes or no answer. Let see if the rest can do the same.
However, let me ask you this in return.

Who was the last President who handle the country's finances like you would handle yours?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: TuHolmes on December 10, 2015, 09:58:47 PM
The answer is no.

However, let me ask you this in return.

Who was the last President who handle the country's finances like you would handle yours?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2015, 10:23:04 PM
Answer the question for fucks sake.

Nope.  I wouldn't trust ANY president that creates debt.  

Obama did raise the national debt by 53%.  So I totally wouldn't trust him.   Others?

W Bush increased the debt by 101%.   Ouch.  Worse.

Clinton increased the debt by 32%.  Hmmm

George HW Bush (4 years) by 54%.   Fast.

Reagan increased the US national debt by 184%    Hmmm tough to shit on obama for 53% when Reagan was so much higher.  


http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm

Coach...
Would you trust ANY of these folks?   LOL Coolidge was the last president to run a surplus.  "Roaring 20s"

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Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 10, 2015, 10:36:38 PM
Nope.  I wouldn't trust ANY president that creates debt.  

Obama did raise the national debt by 53%.  So I totally wouldn't trust him.   Others?

W Bush increased the debt by 101%.   Ouch.  Worse.

Clinton increased the debt by 32%.  Hmmm

George HW Bush (4 years) by 54%.   Fast.

Reagan increased the US national debt by 184%    Hmmm tough to shit on obama for 53% when Reagan was so much higher.  


http://useconomy.about.com/od/usdebtanddeficit/p/US-Debt-by-President.htm

Coach...
Would you trust ANY of these folks?   LOL Coolidge was the last president to run a surplus.  "Roaring 20s"

(https://media.giphy.com/media/13py6c5BSnBkic/giphy.gif)

Try again spin boy. Now answer the question.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/its-official-obamas-deficits-in-6-years-more-than-all-prior-us-presidents-combined/
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 10, 2015, 10:59:57 PM
Try again spin boy. Now answer the question.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/its-official-obamas-deficits-in-6-years-more-than-all-prior-us-presidents-combined/

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Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2015, 11:32:09 PM
Try again spin boy. Now answer the question.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/its-official-obamas-deficits-in-6-years-more-than-all-prior-us-presidents-combined/

Yes, borrowing $1 in 2015 is a little different than a dollar in 1981, or in 1931.  The value of the dollar, and the starting debt line of each president, is actually different as decades pass.

You're celebrating because Obama borrowed more dollars.  The % of growth of national debt is what actually matters.  Reagan grew the debt much more (184%) than obama (53%) because a 1981 dollar is not the same as a 2015 dollar.  I am not sure you understand this.

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Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
Reagan grew the debt much more (184%) than obama (53%) because a 1981 dollar is not the same as a 2015 dollar.

Coach, we used to have an enjoyable daily debate here on getbig, as you know, I'll argue anything just to stay sharp.

This issue, if you cannot understand the change in value of $1 over 30+ years... I don't know what to tell ya.

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Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 11, 2015, 05:03:20 AM
Let's reverse this question to everyone that agrees (not saying you do) with Obamas policies. Would you personally handle your business or Personal finances the same way Obama handles this countries finances?

More proof of my charge. You won't answer a question, because you can't. You do not know enough about the subject to even form a cogent opinion.

Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 11, 2015, 05:30:26 AM
Answer the question for fucks sake.

I am trying to have a reasonable debate with you, no trolling. You are jumping from topic to topic without teasing them apart.

Let's just stick with the finances, you are saying Obama is really bad for the US economically, let's look at the facts (stats) to see if you are correct.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

The first graph shows UE rate by year, note the sharp increase beginning in 08, the height of the great recession, at least the fallout of it's effects were starting to be realized.

UE jumped to roughly 10% in 09-10 and has decreased quite rapidly, currently sitting near all time lows in the last twenty years (approaching 99-00 rates).

So if you are crediting Obama with the economy, it appears his policies (or sheer coincidence) has reduce UE faster then any predictions, Romney, said it would take two terms, Obama did what Romney claimed in 2 years.

Compared to the other G7 nations, another indicator of economic policy (US is atypical, it's way ahead), shows the US recovered the best (save Germany, that;s another complicated issue) as in, the figures by which recession is claimed, also show great recovery, it can't be both can it Joe? if so, explain how to me?


From the link
"The National Bureau of Economic Research declared the official start date of the recession to be December 2007 and the end date to be June 2009. For the purposes of our analysis—in which quarterly data will be used rather than monthly data—the fourth quarter of 2007 will be used as the start date and the second quarter of 2009 will be used as end date".

Obama took office at the PEAK of the GREAT recession.

Productivity is increasing (it did so during the recession however, likely the result of things not effected as much be productivity, ie automation), this automation will continue to reduce participation rate.


On to the deficit (this is different from debt, it is more closely related to the policies of the president.), sometimes deficits are good, ever need cash flow in a small business? Maybe to invest in marketing, which will cause short term money loss with high potential return. So you go in debt and a deficit, your losing money, then the marketing works, your deficits turn to surplus, ahh profits.. you still have debt to pay, this can turn that surplus to a deficit and so on...

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

It peaked recently during 09-11, which makes sense, in attempt to recover from the great recession, you don't hold back money (the gov is the biggest mover in the economy, it's idiotic in fact), however, it is now dropping at record pace, it has slowed recently, but there was a significant drop.

What evidence do you have Joe?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Yamcha on December 11, 2015, 08:51:20 AM
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Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: TuHolmes on December 11, 2015, 10:57:02 AM
Try again spin boy. Now answer the question.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/its-official-obamas-deficits-in-6-years-more-than-all-prior-us-presidents-combined/

You do realize that one of you is talking dollars and the other percentages.

So you are both actually correct.


However, let me ask you this in return.

Who was the last President who handle the country's finances like you would handle yours?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: The Ugly on December 11, 2015, 10:59:55 AM
You do realize that one of you is talking dollars and the other percentages.

So you are both actually correct.


Didn't Bill manage our budget pretty well?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: TuHolmes on December 11, 2015, 11:05:02 AM
Didn't Bill manage our budget pretty well?

He had some years of budget surplus, but overall he also increased the debt.

Debt isn't necessarily always bad either.

I mean, most people here have debt of some sort. Even Coach.

The question is whether it's more debt than can be paid back.

Realistically speaking, even the current debt of the US is completely capable of being paid back if the US wants to. They just decide to not.

There will come a time when that debt will come due of course, and that will be a day of reckoning, but in general, some debt is fine.

I think that the debt under Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton was totally manageable and it was only during the Bush 2 and Obama admins that the debt started to actually get extremely out of hand. Too many wars and what not.

Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 11, 2015, 11:27:39 AM
Let's reverse this question to everyone that agrees (not saying you do) with Obamas policies. Would you personally handle your business or Personal finances the same way Obama handles this countries finances?

Seeing what a shit hole this country was in when he took office and seeing where the DOW, economy, housing market, unemployment rate, def.reduction, etc.. are all sitting at now in a much better place, then I certainly would allow him over the others to handle finances. 

You, I wouldn't allow to handle waffle batter down at the Ihop.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2015, 11:34:53 AM
I am trying to have a reasonable debate with you, no trolling. You are jumping from topic to topic without teasing them apart.

Let's just stick with the finances, you are saying Obama is really bad for the US economically, let's look at the facts (stats) to see if you are correct.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

The first graph shows UE rate by year, note the sharp increase beginning in 08, the height of the great recession, at least the fallout of it's effects were starting to be realized.

UE jumped to roughly 10% in 09-10 and has decreased quite rapidly, currently sitting near all time lows in the last twenty years (approaching 99-00 rates).

So if you are crediting Obama with the economy, it appears his policies (or sheer coincidence) has reduce UE faster then any predictions, Romney, said it would take two terms, Obama did what Romney claimed in 2 years.

Compared to the other G7 nations, another indicator of economic policy (US is atypical, it's way ahead), shows the US recovered the best (save Germany, that;s another complicated issue) as in, the figures by which recession is claimed, also show great recovery, it can't be both can it Joe? if so, explain how to me?


From the link
"The National Bureau of Economic Research declared the official start date of the recession to be December 2007 and the end date to be June 2009. For the purposes of our analysis—in which quarterly data will be used rather than monthly data—the fourth quarter of 2007 will be used as the start date and the second quarter of 2009 will be used as end date".

Obama took office at the PEAK of the GREAT recession.

Productivity is increasing (it did so during the recession however, likely the result of things not effected as much be productivity, ie automation), this automation will continue to reduce participation rate.


On to the deficit (this is different from debt, it is more closely related to the policies of the president.), sometimes deficits are good, ever need cash flow in a small business? Maybe to invest in marketing, which will cause short term money loss with high potential return. So you go in debt and a deficit, your losing money, then the marketing works, your deficits turn to surplus, ahh profits.. you still have debt to pay, this can turn that surplus to a deficit and so on...

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

It peaked recently during 09-11, which makes sense, in attempt to recover from the great recession, you don't hold back money (the gov is the biggest mover in the economy, it's idiotic in fact), however, it is now dropping at record pace, it has slowed recently, but there was a significant drop.

What evidence do you have Joe?

Fair enough and I'll make this quick. The one thing that you failed to mention was the increase in the labor participation rate that the 5.0 number doesn't reflect http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 It's basically what drives our economy along with private business, right? (of course there are other factors but these are the main one's) So if people are not working and generally giving up on looking how can the economy see a rapid growth? Is the economy growing, yes but at the slowest this country has seen in the last 70 + years. That's not good especially in this day and age.

Lets get on to spending. On the poli board I started the thread "CBO says" it zero replys, fine. But within the thread that some may take as a bias article was a link to the CBO's monthly budget review https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/114th-congress-2015-2016/reports/51048-MBR.pdf where it states taxes and spending are up dramatically http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/cbo-taxes-spending-deficit-all-first-2-months-fy2016

Now lets take the "common" "sense" (for The Ugly :)) side of this. It doesn't matter if this is personal finances, business or the country. You don't have to have a degree in macroeconomics to know that if you spend more than you take in you'll eventually go bankrupt. Earlier in Obama's presidency the country had its credit rating downgraded for I believe for the first time. Obama's economic policy is to tax and spend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_Barack_Obama

So now, with all of the said and not even touching on the rapidly increase of the deficit, borrowing and printing of money how is the economy doing for this country as a whole?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2015, 11:39:51 AM
Seeing what a shit hole this country was in when he took office and seeing where the DOW, economy, housing market, unemployment rate, def.reduction, etc.. are all sitting at now in a much better place, then I certainly would allow him over the others to handle finances. 

You, I wouldn't allow to handle waffle batter down at the Ihop.

But that wasn't the question. Would you handle your personal or if you had a business it's finances in the same way, meaning spending money you didn't have, borrowing money to pay off existing debts and having that snowball like it doing now and the reason for the exorbitant deficit or would you keep debt down to have more freedom to invest?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2015, 11:41:36 AM
Didn't Bill manage our budget pretty well?

Bill Clinton had the advantage of the dot com era, like Bush (about the last three months) his economy started going down the shitter as well.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2015, 11:42:49 AM
Seeing what a shit hole this country was in when he took office and seeing where the DOW, economy, housing market, unemployment rate, def.reduction, etc.. are all sitting at now in a much better place, then I certainly would allow him over the others to handle finances. 

You, I wouldn't allow to handle waffle batter down at the Ihop.

Dude, it been over seven years now, you can't keep blaming Bush. Obama had his chance and blew it.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: The Ugly on December 11, 2015, 12:08:51 PM
Bill Clinton had the advantage of the dot com era, like Bush (about the last three months) his economy started going down the shitter as well.

Doesn't every prosperous president benefit from some unforeseen market explosion?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2015, 12:19:16 PM
Doesn't every prosperous president benefit from some unforeseen market explosion?

I'm sure but I can't recall anything since like that era. Can you?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: The Ugly on December 11, 2015, 12:21:42 PM
I'm sure but I can't recall anything since like that era. Can you?

Nope.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: TuHolmes on December 11, 2015, 01:13:57 PM
I'm sure but I can't recall anything since like that era. Can you?

Not since, but the 80s had Wall Street. 60s and 70s had war... 50s had Automobile and Manufacturing... as did the 20s and so on.

Everyone gets something.

Nothing since 2000 comes close though.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Necrosis on December 11, 2015, 01:46:42 PM
Fair enough and I'll make this quick. The one thing that you failed to mention was the increase in the labor participation rate that the 5.0 number doesn't reflect http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000 It's basically what drives our economy along with private business, right? (of course there are other factors but these are the main one's) So if people are not working and generally giving up on looking how can the economy see a rapid growth? Is the economy growing, yes but at the slowest this country has seen in the last 70 + years. That's not good especially in this day and age.

The rate has been steadily decreasing, it needs to be taken together in context with UE, automation and an aging population is driving participation rates down, while the UE steadily decreases, this is in line with this thinking. Even in 2005 it was decreasing, it will continue to as humans are replaced.

Lets get on to spending. On the poli board I started the thread "CBO says" it zero replys, fine. But within the thread that some may take as a bias article was a link to the CBO's monthly budget review https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/114th-congress-2015-2016/reports/51048-MBR.pdf where it states taxes and spending are up dramatically http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/cbo-taxes-spending-deficit-all-first-2-months-fy2016





Now lets take the "common" "sense" (for The Ugly :)) side of this. It doesn't matter if this is personal finances, business or the country. You don't have to have a degree in macroeconomics to know that if you spend more than you take in you'll eventually go bankrupt. Earlier in Obama's pre
sidency the country had its credit rating downgraded for I believe for the first time. Obama's economic policy is to tax and spend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_Barack_Obama

So now, with all of the said and not even touching on the rapidly increase of the deficit, borrowing and printing of money how is the economy doing for this country as a whole?









You can make more money by spending more money, that's how you make money, you make your money work for you. If he is investing in infrastructure etc, then spending will likely reap threefold benefits, thus short term debt/deficits can create long term boom. You have to invest, they need to spend, but spend on things that generate jobs, money etc.. saving money does fuck all really.

His deficits have been rapidly decreasing as the first link showed, it increased at first, but that was because of the great recession, you can't just say the numbers without mentioning the worst recession in history.

Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 12, 2015, 07:10:31 AM
Dude, it been over seven years now, you can't keep blaming Bush. Obama had his chance and blew it.

Hey dumb ass.  I didn't even mention Bush in my post.  But if spending money brought me out of the piss hole that someone else left me in, then I certainly would.

Your Obama Derangement Syndrome is laughable.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: TuHolmes on December 12, 2015, 09:25:52 AM
Bill Clinton had the advantage of the dot com era, like Bush (about the last three months) his economy started going down the shitter as well.

Bush had the housing bubble.

He had .com not long enough for anything.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2015, 09:26:34 AM
Hey dumb ass.  I didn't even mention Bush in my post.  But if spending money brought me out of the piss hole that someone else left me in, then I certainly would.

Your Obama Derangement Syndrome is laughable.

So you would borrow and spend? Got it. This isn't all Obama, this is the economic mentality of the left as well.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: TuHolmes on December 12, 2015, 09:28:28 AM
So you would borrow and spend? Got it. This isn't all Obama, this is the economic mentality of the left as well.

You ever get a business loan to improve your business?

Buy new equipment?

That's borrow and spend right?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: King Shizzo on December 12, 2015, 09:28:39 AM
So you would borrow and spend? Got it. This isn't all Obama, this is the economic mentality of the left as well.
What else do people do with money? You don't borrow to save.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2015, 09:47:51 AM
You ever get a business loan to improve your business?

Buy new equipment?

That's borrow and spend right?

Me personally, no. We own everything out right from flooring to lighting. But what I'm getting at is borrowing over and over again to pay existing debt. A loan to pay a loan doesn't make sense and eventually leads to financial disaster.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: TuHolmes on December 12, 2015, 11:35:44 AM
Me personally, no. We own everything out right from flooring to lighting. But what I'm getting at is borrowing over and over again to pay existing debt. A loan to pay a loan doesn't make sense and eventually leads to financial disaster.

I don't disagree that borrowing to pay debt is not responsible from a personal finance perspective, however it seems to be more common in government and has been done for almost 100 years.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: King Shizzo on December 12, 2015, 11:37:36 AM
I don't disagree that borrowing to pay debt is not responsible from a personal finance perspective, however it seems to be more common in government and has been done for almost 100 years.
Fantastic post.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 12, 2015, 12:30:44 PM
So you would borrow and spend? Got it. This isn't all Obama, this is the economic mentality of the left as well.

I showed data that reagan borrowed at a rate more than DOUBLE that of obama.

Was reagan subscribing to a liberal mentality also?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2015, 01:37:55 PM
I showed data that reagan borrowed at a rate more than DOUBLE that of obama.

Was reagan subscribing to a liberal mentality also?

http://www.heritage.org/about/press/how-great-was-ronald-reagan-40th-president-place-in-history

Borrow and spend all you want just make sure you can pay the debt. Obama and his inept administration are making sure we can't pay shit back. Enough with your Strawman arguments.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 12, 2015, 02:30:03 PM
http://www.heritage.org/about/press/how-great-was-ronald-reagan-40th-president-place-in-history

Borrow and spend all you want just make sure you can pay the debt. Obama and his inept administration are making sure we can't pay shit back. Enough with your Strawman arguments.

an article that is titled "how great was reagan!" is supposed to change my mind?   Sure, heritage sounds unbiased and all.

is your position, "Reagan borrowed at a much higher rate, but he had good reasons"?   ???  Is that what you're trying to explain with that mishmash of links and obama attacks?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2015, 04:18:14 PM
an article that is titled "how great was reagan!" is supposed to change my mind?   Sure, heritage sounds unbiased and all.

is your position, "Reagan borrowed at a much higher rate, but he had good reasons"?   ???  Is that what you're trying to explain with that mishmash of links and obama attacks?

Yeah, sure. Why do you suppose Reagans economy was successful while Obamas was damn near if not a total failure? One year left with Obama and it's taken this long and the economy has barely moved and when it does move its slow? At the end of Obamas reign he will in fact us in a REAL mess.

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2015/6/barack-obama-sluggish-economy
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2015, 04:20:37 PM
Now back to the question now that you've tried getting out of answering it by trying to change the subject. Would you handle your personal and business finances the same way Obama has? Simple yes or no.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: tom joad on December 12, 2015, 05:01:20 PM
Coach should run the American economy then maybe it wouldn't be so bad?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 12, 2015, 11:35:27 PM
Yeah, sure. Why do you suppose Reagans economy was successful while Obamas was damn near if not a total failure?

Unemployment was 7.4% the day Reagan took office. It was 5.3% the day he left office.   That's a great 2.1% drop.

Unemployment was 8.3% the day Obama took office.  Today, it's what, 5.1%?

Ummmm so Obama outperformed Reagan?   ;)
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2015, 11:52:00 PM
Unemployment was 7.4% the day Reagan took office. It was 5.3% the day he left office.   That's a great 2.1% drop.

Unemployment was 8.3% the day Obama took office.  Today, it's what, 5.1%?

Ummmm so Obama outperformed Reagan?   ;)

You have problems. I can't help you. You're obviously absolutely clueless or like Beck said just one dumb SOB.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 12, 2015, 11:55:24 PM
You have problems. I can't help you. You're obviously absolutely clueless or like Beck said just one dumb SOB.

Look, I was a birther before you.   I posted that I wanted obama impeached years before you did.

But in this case... reagan made 2.1% drop.   Obama made 3.2% drop in unemployment. 

You can call me clueless, or you can explain why reagan's spending (way higher % than obama) leading to a SMALLER # drop in UE is somehow a good thing.   Reagan made less progress in UE, while making more debt.   How is that good?
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on December 13, 2015, 03:01:00 PM
Yeah, sure. Why do you suppose Reagans economy was successful while Obamas was damn near if not a total failure? One year left with Obama and it's taken this long and the economy has barely moved and when it does move its slow? At the end of Obamas reign he will in fact us in a REAL mess.

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2015/6/barack-obama-sluggish-economy
Reagan sucked cock.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 13, 2015, 03:09:36 PM
Reagan sucked cock.

Coming from a backward liberal coward this your quote doesn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2015, 07:25:53 PM
Look, I was a birther before you.   I posted that I wanted obama impeached years before you did.

But in this case... reagan made 2.1% drop.   Obama made 3.2% drop in unemployment. 

You can call me clueless, or you can explain why reagan's spending (way higher % than obama) leading to a SMALLER # drop in UE is somehow a good thing.   Reagan made less progress in UE, while making more debt.   How is that good?

Reagan's numbers were solid.   Not obama level, but solid.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 13, 2015, 07:32:30 PM
Reagan's numbers were solid.   Not obama level, but solid.

The only thing that's solid about Obama is the shit he takes after Mooshell plugs him. Other than that you're delusional. He's completely useless and I'm not even close to exaggerating.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 13, 2015, 08:18:53 PM
Look, I was a birther before you.   I posted that I wanted obama impeached years before you did.

But in this case... reagan made 2.1% drop.   Obama made 3.2% drop in unemployment. 

You can call me clueless, or you can explain why reagan's spending (way higher % than obama) leading to a SMALLER # drop in UE is somehow a good thing.   Reagan made less progress in UE, while making more debt.   How is that good?

The Obama Administraion changed the definition of unemployed to lower the number of people out of work. Real unemployment was about 11% when Obama was claiming 5%

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/10/donald-lambro-obama-hides-jobs-failure-by-not-coun/?page=all

Educate yourself a little.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2015, 09:12:57 PM
The only thing that's solid about Obama is the shit he takes after Mooshell plugs him. Other than that you're delusional. He's completely useless and I'm not even close to exaggerating.

But you DO agree that reagan spent, %wise, over DOUBLE that of obama?  
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on December 13, 2015, 09:14:12 PM
Coming from a backward liberal coward this your quote doesn't surprise me.
Reagan tripled the national debt, raided social security, gave amnesty to 3 mil illegals, Iran Contra and the list goes on and on. Absolute failure on every level.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: The Ugly on December 13, 2015, 10:03:21 PM
Reagan tripled the national debt, raided social security, gave amnesty to 3 mil illegals, Iran Contra and the list goes on and on. Absolute failure on every level.

Still needs his face carved into Mt. Wilson. Much bigger than those silly Rushmore midgets.
Title: Re: Obama bitch slapped yet again.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 23, 2018, 08:26:27 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/22/illinoisans-fleeing-state-taxes-financial-loss/