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http://news.yahoo.com/us-supreme-court-gives-nod-assault-weapons-ban-232230175.html
Washington (AFP) - The US Supreme Court appeared on Monday to back lawmakers who want to restrict the type of guns such as semi-automatic assault weapons used in recent mass shootings.
In a 7-2 vote, the high court's justices refused to take up a challenge to a Chicago suburb's ban on the sale or possession of semi-automatic weapons or high-capacity magazines with more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
The court's move is a small victory for activists against the spread of such guns, which can potentially kill many people in a short period of time.
"By rejecting this case, today the Supreme Court sided with a community that has taken action to protect itself from the type of violence we've seen in San Bernardino, on college campuses and in movie theaters," said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Center and Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
Just last week, a husband and wife who authorities say had been radicalized for "quite some time" cut down 14 people and wounded another 21 in San Bernardino, California using legally purchased semi-automatic rifles.
Pediatrician Arie Friedman and the pro-gun Illinois State Rifle Association filed suit, saying his Second Amendment rights to bear arms under the US Constitution had been violated by the city of Highland Park's ban.
Friedman took his challenge to the Supreme Court after losing in lower courts.
Conservative justices Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia, writing for the dissent, said they would have taken up the challenge.
"Roughly five million Americans own AR-style semiautomatic rifles," Thomas wrote in a six-page dissent.
"The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting."
The justices have shied from weighing in on state and local disputes on gun rights in recent years.
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Only the batshit crazy Brady people would interpret it that way.
They did nothing of the sort.
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Only the batshit crazy Brady people would interpret it that way.
They did nothing of the sort.
I guess they are looking for any small victory they can get. :-\ :-\
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It would be easier to ban people than ban guns in America. So I say Ban people then innocent guns won't get fired.
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Just to be clear everyone understands the irony of a suburb adjacent to the murder capital of the country CHICAGO being given credit for "a community taking action to protect itself" when five miles down the road even stricter gun laws have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stem the murders. Do the libtards and euroweasels get it or do I need to dumb it down?
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In a 7-2 vote, the high court's justices refused to take up a challenge to a Chicago suburb's ban on the sale or possession of semi-automatic weapons or high-capacity magazines with more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
Republicans are mad that the federal govt is refusing to get involved with a local legislation matter.
But the rest of the time, they're all about 'states rights' and 'dont tread on me' and 'keep the govt out of my medicare!"
Either they want a nanny state (where the supreme court will dictate national gun policy) or they want a conservative state, where the counties and states let the PEOPLE decide. The problem is, they're okay with it, UNTIL one county decides abortion or gun bans are okay. Then they shit a brick.
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Guess it is time for me to buy an ak-47 before I can't. ;D
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Republicans are mad that the federal govt is refusing to get involved with a local legislation matter.
But the rest of the time, they're all about 'states rights' and 'dont tread on me' and 'keep the govt out of my medicare!"
Either they want a nanny state (where the supreme court will dictate national gun policy) or they want a conservative state, where the counties and states let the PEOPLE decide. The problem is, they're okay with it, UNTIL one county decides abortion or gun bans are okay. Then they shit a brick.
You are a buffoon, the 10th Amendment deals with issues that are outside the scope of the constitution, and last time I checked the 2ND Amendment was still in the constitution.
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Who REALLY needs an AR-15 or AK?
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Who REALLY needs an AR-15 or AK?
The answer that gun people will tell you is this:
It doesn't matter why I need an AR-15 or AK. That is none of your business or anyone elses. It is my constitutional right to own a gun. Plain and simple.
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Who REALLY needs an AR-15 or AK?
Who really needs 19-20+ inch arms?
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Who really needs 19-20+ inch arms?
This man has both: huge arms and guns
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The answer that gun people will tell you is this:
It doesn't matter why I need an AR-15 or AK. That is none of your business or anyone elses. It is my constitutional right to own a gun. Plain and simple.
Thats what I love about the left, you seem to think you get to tell everyone what they need or don't need.
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Thats what I love about the left, you seem to think you get to tell everyone what they need or don't need.
When did I tell someone what they need or don't need, dingus? It appears you have reading comprehension problems.
All I did was state what gun owners will tell you.
I never said I agreed or disagreed with the statement. I was simply informing BMC the likely reason that gun owners will give. Again, I never stated what people should or should not have. Please sharpen your reading comprehension skills. Thanks.
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When did I tell someone what they need or don't need, dingus? It appears you have reading comprehension problems.
All I did was state what gun owners will tell you.
I never said I agreed or disagreed with the statement. I was simply informing BMC the likely reason that gun owners will give. Again, I never stated what people should or should not have. Please sharpen your reading comprehension skills. Thanks.
I read just fine, just have to read between the lines with jackass's like you.
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I read just fine, just have to read between the lines with jackass's like you.
Oh boy, now you're psychic. Please, tell me what I was thinking? Maybe you're not a psychic; perhaps, you can read between the lines because you're just THAT smart!! :D :D
Little do you know, I often go target and skeet shooting with my friend. Ive shot many different types of guns and thoroughly enjoy shooting (especially shooting a shotgun). I have no intention of taking away my close friends gun or anyone elses gun for that matter, or telling people what they can and cannot own.
Try again, dingus.
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Nails man! Where do you find things like that! :o
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You are a buffoon, the 10th Amendment deals with issues that are outside the scope of the constitution, and last time I checked the 2ND Amendment was still in the constitution.
240 likes to play amateur talking head on here. He's harmless and has moderate entertainment value.
I thought he was far better when he used to make fun of bodybuilders - until
King Kamali scared the stuffing out of him.
Now he just goes after Coach. Why, I don't know.
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Who REALLY needs an AR-15 or AK?
Who really needs superchargers or surf boards.
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Guess it is time for me to buy an ak-47 before I can't. ;D
Yes, it is time. If you don't have an AK, it should be at the top of your Christmas list. :D
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Connecticut still has an " Assault Weapons Ban " in effect , it didn't stop Adam Lanza , California still has an " Assault Weapons Ban " in effect , didn't stop the San Bernardino shooters. The first " Assault Weapons Ban " was an abject failure , another would be the same. And it's unconstitutional and wouldn't stand up to Heller Vs D.C " in common use "
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Three of these rifles are in an " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration. Can you tell which ones? There was NO " ban " per sa , they only " banned " features which clueless politicians decided to demonize.
Original " ban " You couldn't have a flash hider , so you had to have a muzzle device instead ( it had to be pinned and welded into place ) LMAO because this makes the bullet less lethal ::) You couldn't have a bayonet lug on the end of the barrel ::) because there was a rash of people who attached bayonets to their rifles and decided to stab people to death ::) You couldn't have a collapsible stock , it had to be pinned so it was forced to stay stuck in one position. Oh and you couldn't have any new magazines made that could hold 30 rounds. Despite the fact that there were 10s of millions of ' pre ban ' magazines in existence floating around for sale.
All of these " banned " features were cosmetic ONLY the round didn't change , the rate of fire didn't change , they accomplished NOTHING even by anti gun accounts the first " Assault Weapons Ban " did absolutely NOTHING to curb gun violence , because the vast majority of gun crimes are committed with hand guns.
It's a nonissue , it was back in 1994 and it now.
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Three of these rifles are in an " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration. Can you tell which ones? There was NO " ban " per sa , they only " banned " features which clueless politicians decided to demonize.
Original " ban " You couldn't have a flash hider , so you had to have a muzzle device instead ( it had to be pinned and welded into place ) LMAO because this makes the bullet less lethal ::) You couldn't have a bayonet lug on the end of the barrel ::) because there was a rash of people who attached bayonets to their rifles and decided to stab people to death ::) You couldn't have a collapsible stock , it had to be pinned so it was forced to stay stuck in one position. Oh and you couldn't have any new magazines made that could hold 30 rounds. Despite the fact that there were 10s of millions of ' pre ban ' magazines in existence floating around for sale.
All of these " banned " features were cosmetic ONLY the round didn't change , the rate of fire didn't change , they accomplished NOTHING even by anti gun accounts the first " Assault Weapons Ban " did absolutely NOTHING to curb gun violence , because the vast majority of gun crimes are committed with hand guns.
It's a nonissue , it was back in 1994 and it now.
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Connecticut still has an " Assault Weapons Ban " in effect , it didn't stop Adam Lanza , California still has an " Assault Weapons Ban " in effect , didn't stop the San Bernardino shooters. The first " Assault Weapons Ban " was an abject failure , another would be the same. And it's unconstitutional and wouldn't stand up to Heller Vs D.C " in common use "
Pretty sure you can legally own an AR-15 no problem in California, they just need a stupid button or something (that can be removed or jigged with a magnet or something) to allow it to shoot continuously. My buddy has one and definitely uses it but told me it just takes some stupid adjustment to change it to automatic or whatever. Sorry, not up on my gun knowledge but I do know he legally has an AR-15 in California. Hollywood if that helps.
It is irrelevant to have interstate/county bans on weapons when there are no borders in USA.
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Pretty sure you can legally own an AR-15 no problem in California, they just need a stupid button or something (that can be removed or jigged with a magnet or something) to allow it to shoot continuously. My buddy has one and definitely uses it but told me it just takes some stupid adjustment to change it to automatic or whatever. Sorry, not up on my gun knowledge but I do know he legally has an AR-15 in California. Hollywood if that helps.
It is irrelevant to have interstate/county bans on weapons when there are no borders in USA.
Oh yes the dumb ass bullet button , another well thought piece of legislature ::)
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Pretty sure you can legally own an AR-15 no problem in California, they just need a stupid button or something (that can be removed or jigged with a magnet or something) to allow it to shoot continuously. My buddy has one and definitely uses it but told me it just takes some stupid adjustment to change it to automatic or whatever. Sorry, not up on my gun knowledge but I do know he legally has an AR-15 in California. Hollywood if that helps.
It is irrelevant to have interstate/county bans on weapons when there are no borders in USA.
You sound like a politician, the CA bullet button releases the mag, all it does. In no way shape or form does it make anything automatic or alter the way the gun shoots.
This thread turned out just like I figured. ;)
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You sound like a politician, the CA bullet button releases the mag, all it does. In no way shape or form does it make anything automatic or alter the way the gun shoots.
This thread turned out just like I figured. ;)
Explain your post. Please.
I refuted ND's claim that California has an assault weapon ban. I stated they had some stupid restriction using a button that was tarting up the veil of stopping an AR-15 being more deadly.
I stated that such a law is pointless as are interstate/intrastate gun bans when US has no borders (internally).
How did I sound like a politician?
Go on...
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Explain your post. Please.
I refuted ND's claim that California has an assault weapon ban. I stated they had some stupid restriction using a button that was tarting up the veil of stopping an AR-15 being more deadly.
I stated that such a law is pointless as are interstate/intrastate gun bans when US has no borders (internally).
How did I sound like a politician?
Go on...
You didn't refute anything ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California
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You didn't refute anything ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California
You've to firstly understand you talking about gun mechanics is like me talking about how turf is cut and dried in rural Ireland. You might know about it but not an expert.
I defo know someone in Cali with an AR 15.
I saw this on the AR 15:
Various magazine capacity, ranging from 10 to 30-round or more
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15
and I am guessing this is the law that has to be followed:
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California#Assault_Weapons_Control_Act_of_1989
I'm not disagreeing with you guys for once and I was open about my lack of mechanical knowledge on guns but at least give me the respect by refuting my points and stating why.
I'm sure your knowledge of English, Irish or Chinese gun laws isn't great...
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Explain your post. Please.
I refuted ND's claim that California has an assault weapon ban. I stated they had some stupid restriction using a button that was tarting up the veil of stopping an AR-15 being more deadly.
I stated that such a law is pointless as are interstate/intrastate gun bans when US has no borders (internally).
How did I sound like a politician?
Go on...
I live in California and own an AR-15 or 10, I know all about the bullet button and how to work around it. You sound like a politician in your post because "jigging" it with a magnet will not allow it to shoot continuously and it cannot be "changed to automatic " without modification to the internals of the gun, so by making statements like this, you sound like the typical uneducated politician trying to rally the masses like you care.
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I live in California and own an AR-15 or 10, I know all about the bullet button and how to work around it. You sound like a politician in your post because "jigging" it with a magnet will not allow it to shoot continuously and it cannot be "changed to automatic " without modification to the internals of the gun, so by making statements like this, you sound like the typical uneducated politician trying to rally the masses like you care.
Is there a simple way of modifying it that would breach Californian gun law?
Yes or no.
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Is there a simple way of modifying it that would breach Californian gun law?
Yes or no.
No
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I live in California and own an AR-15 or 10, I know all about the bullet button and how to work around it. You sound like a politician in your post because "jigging" it with a magnet will not allow it to shoot continuously and it cannot be "changed to automatic " without modification to the internals of the gun, so by making statements like this, you sound like the typical uneducated politician trying to rally the masses like you care.
Chaos the anti-Adonis swinging a big, red blooded American dick
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http://news.yahoo.com/us-supreme-court-gives-nod-assault-weapons-ban-232230175.html
Washington (AFP) - The US Supreme Court appeared on Monday to back lawmakers who want to restrict the type of guns such as semi-automatic assault weapons used in recent mass shootings.
In a 7-2 vote, the high court's justices refused to take up a challenge to a Chicago suburb's ban on the sale or possession of semi-automatic weapons or high-capacity magazines with more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
The court's move is a small victory for activists against the spread of such guns, which can potentially kill many people in a short period of time.
"By rejecting this case, today the Supreme Court sided with a community that has taken action to protect itself from the type of violence we've seen in San Bernardino, on college campuses and in movie theaters," said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Center and Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
Just last week, a husband and wife who authorities say had been radicalized for "quite some time" cut down 14 people and wounded another 21 in San Bernardino, California using legally purchased semi-automatic rifles.
Pediatrician Arie Friedman and the pro-gun Illinois State Rifle Association filed suit, saying his Second Amendment rights to bear arms under the US Constitution had been violated by the city of Highland Park's ban.
Friedman took his challenge to the Supreme Court after losing in lower courts.
Conservative justices Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia, writing for the dissent, said they would have taken up the challenge.
"Roughly five million Americans own AR-style semiautomatic rifles," Thomas wrote in a six-page dissent.
"The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting."
The justices have shied from weighing in on state and local disputes on gun rights in recent years.
end all gun control
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Liberals always want to ban and eliminate anything that they don't like or don't understand...and they call Republicans fascists. lol.
The hard cold truth is that none of these regulations or bans would do anything at all to stop the attacks that are taking place, and they know it.
It's not a coincidence that the nutjob mass-murderers are going after soft targets where they expect little to no opposition. Most of them being in "Gun free zones".
Banning guns is something Democunts have wanted forever and in the spirit of "don't let a crisis go to waste" they are using recent events to get their way. Too bad for them it isn't working.
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Liberals always want to ban and eliminate anything that they don't like or don't understand...and they call Republicans fascists. lol.
This is why I don't get along with leftist, they are always trying to take something away, unless of course you are a gay black trans-sexual with ADHD, then you are all good.
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This is the most disturbing thing I've seen all day lol.
Meanwhile, guys here are still continuing their discussion on guns like shit ain't happened lolol.
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This is the most disturbing thing I've seen all day lol.
Meanwhile, guys here are still continuing their discussion on guns like shit ain't happened lolol.
What? Thats not an everyday occurrence in your house?
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Liberals always want to ban and eliminate anything that they don't like
both sides do it.
republicans want to ban things they don't like too.
abortion
gay marriage
we could go on, but you get the idea. Repubs are notorious for screaming "no govt intervention!!!" and being all about states rights.... UNTIL they want to use the federal govt to ban things they don't like.
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Oh yes the dumb ass bullet button , another well thought piece of legislature ::)
But the gun manufacturers were accused of 'skirting' the law, exploiting a 'loophole'....
No.....they made a frickin button that complied with the regulations.
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Imagine the type of guns that will hit the black market if gun bans in America ever come to be? There's nicer cars being built in people's garages than in Detroit...Pandora's box was opened a long time ago. There are dudes out there with CNC machines who can build rocket launchers...
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both sides do it.
republicans want to ban things they don't like too.
abortion
gay marriage
we could go on, but you get the idea. Repubs are notorious for screaming "no govt intervention!!!" and being all about states rights.... UNTIL they want to use the federal govt to ban things they don't like.
I agree, to an extent. However, the couple of things that Republicans (fuck be upon them) want to ban pale in comparison to the Liberal nanny state. Democunts want everything shit-canned down to the littlist thing. They tried to tell people what size soda they are allowed to buy in New York for fucksakes. They really think they know better and that they are doing it for your own good. Liberty be damned. I can't believe people put up with that shit.
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both sides do it.
republicans want to ban things they don't like too.
abortion
gay marriage
we could go on, but you get the idea. Repubs are notorious for screaming "no govt intervention!!!" and being all about states rights.... UNTIL they want to use the federal govt to ban things they don't like.
Fucking a
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if all guns were banned tomorrow....
people would figure out how to make fireworks, cannons, flamethrowers, and basic sharp explode-y things to protect their home.
come to think of it, if my house security system video shows bad guys in my living room, it'd be cool to activate some kinda cool bleach explosive mist to blind/poison them. Safer than a gunfight anyway haha.
People can print gun stocks using 3D printers, and for the most part, 3D printers are still completely unnecessary, overpriced things with not enough uses. If guns were suddenly banned, then 3D printer technology would skyrocket, as would homemade gun kits. It woudn't be as nice as a glock or AR-15, but could send hot metal at a perp as needed.
OR everyone would just join the police so they could pack heat.
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if all guns were banned tomorrow....
people would figure out how to make fireworks, cannons, flamethrowers, and basic sharp explode-y things to protect their home.
come to think of it, if my house security system video shows bad guys in my living room, it'd be cool to activate some kinda cool bleach explosive mist to blind/poison them. Safer than a gunfight anyway haha.
People can print gun stocks using 3D printers, and for the most part, 3D printers are still completely unnecessary, overpriced things with not enough uses. If guns were suddenly banned, then 3D printer technology would skyrocket, as would homemade gun kits. It woudn't be as nice as a glock or AR-15, but could send hot metal at a perp as needed.
OR everyone would just join the police so they could pack heat.
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if all guns were banned tomorrow....
people would figure out how to make fireworks, cannons, flamethrowers, and basic sharp explode-y things to protect their home.
come to think of it, if my house security system video shows bad guys in my living room, it'd be cool to activate some kinda cool bleach explosive mist to blind/poison them. Safer than a gunfight anyway haha.
People can print gun stocks using 3D printers, and for the most part, 3D printers are still completely unnecessary, overpriced things with not enough uses. If guns were suddenly banned, then 3D printer technology would skyrocket, as would homemade gun kits. It woudn't be as nice as a glock or AR-15, but could send hot metal at a perp as needed.
OR everyone would just join the police so they could pack heat.
I'd start making the assault rifle version of this and sell them out of a van on the black market. Id make more money than Piana, DLB, and Braun combined.
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I agree, to an extent. However, the couple of things that Republicans (fuck be upon them) want to ban pale in comparison to the Liberal nanny state. Democunts want everything shit-canned down to the littlist thing. They tried to tell people what size soda they are allowed to buy in New York for fucksakes. They really think they know better and that they are doing it for your own good. Liberty be damned. I can't believe people put up with that shit.
I don't know if I would say one is worse than the other really.
You also can't forget Republicans are against:
assisted suicide. (Terry Shiavo)
drugs
gambling
Pretty much anything that is against what they believe is evil or morally wrong, where democrats are against anything they perceive as "unhealthy" for your body and other things like that.
They are both shit and the reality is that the people in this country keep voting for shit over and over.
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Imagine the type of guns that will hit the black market if gun bans in America ever come to be? There's nicer cars being built in people's garages than in Detroit...Pandora's box was opened a long time ago. There are dudes out there with CNC machines who can build rocket launchers...
Hypothetically I know someone that could possibly have the capability of making a hand crank gatlin gun in .223 that could be carried with the help of a shoulder strap. ;)
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Just to be clear everyone understands the irony of a suburb adjacent to the murder capital of the country CHICAGO being given credit for "a community taking action to protect itself" when five miles down the road even stricter gun laws have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stem the murders. Do the libtards and euroweasels get it or do I need to dumb it down?
yet the press acts as if gun control is good and inevitable, talk about helping politics from the press, managing the sheep