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Title: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: gib on December 08, 2015, 07:53:32 PM
http://m.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/paris-un-climate-conference-2015-arnold-schwarzenegger-urges-switch-to-vegetarian-diet-20151208-glivw3.html

And he's right. The best bodybuilders at my gym have already gone vegan and are going for lean hard muscle rather than the bloated boof-animal protein look.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: drkaje on December 08, 2015, 07:57:14 PM
http://m.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/paris-un-climate-conference-2015-arnold-schwarzenegger-urges-switch-to-vegetarian-diet-20151208-glivw3.html

And he's right. The best bodybuilders at my gym have already gone vegan and are going for lean hard muscle rather than the bloated boof-animal protein look.

Did you even bother to read that he said one day meat-free?

It's not as if he recommended going full homosexual, LOL!
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 08, 2015, 08:04:40 PM
Going vegan is right up there with needing "likes" on FB
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: ritch on December 08, 2015, 08:19:58 PM
http://m.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/paris-un-climate-conference-2015-arnold-schwarzenegger-urges-switch-to-vegetarian-diet-20151208-glivw3.html

And he's right. The best bodybuilders at my gym have already gone vegan and are going for lean hard muscle rather than the bloated boof-animal protein look.

Bullshit and shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: cephissus on December 08, 2015, 08:23:42 PM
lol i give it ten, fifteen years before you can't even find whey powder in stores anymore

how people still believe you need so much protein in the year 2015 is beyond me

and anyone who uses the word 'animal protein' should probably not be allowed to reproduce

'b-b-but my macros'

http://beyondmeat.com/products/view/grilled-strips

20 p, per 3 net carbs
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: el numero uno on December 08, 2015, 08:34:39 PM
lol i give it ten, fifteen years before you can't even find whey powder in stores anymore

how people still believe you need so much protein in the year 2015 is beyond me

and anyone who uses the word 'animal protein' should probably not be allowed to reproduce

'b-b-but my macros'

http://beyondmeat.com/products/view/grilled-strips

20 p, per 3 net carbs

I've read several times that protein in plant cells is glycosilated with cellulose. Thus, making plant protein hard to assimilate since we humans lack the enzyme to digest cellulose.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: liberalismo on December 09, 2015, 03:18:09 AM
If 1 day a week meat free helps the environment, 7 days a week meat free will make a uuge difference in your own personal contribution to global warming. Arnold is a smart man, he is just jumping on the "common sense train" a bit late in life. Too bad he wasn't saying this stuff 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: affeman on December 09, 2015, 03:47:10 AM
Brutal back-paddling after he made the list of the worst of the Fitness industry several weeks ago ::)

Arnold probably hopes to propitiate the great Vegain Gains with that chicken move, but it won't work.

Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 09, 2015, 03:53:51 AM
lol i give it ten, fifteen years before you can't even find whey powder in stores anymore

By that time you will have synthetic protein powders with optimal amino ratios
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: SuperTed on December 09, 2015, 03:58:09 AM
What's with all the vegan articles all of a sudden?

Seems like the new trend here.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on December 09, 2015, 04:20:00 AM
lol i give it ten, fifteen years before you can't even find whey powder in stores anymore

how people still believe you need so much protein in the year 2015 is beyond me

and anyone who uses the word 'animal protein' should probably not be allowed to reproduce

'b-b-but my macros'

http://beyondmeat.com/products/view/grilled-strips

20 p, per 3 net carbs

A lot of soy based protein foods taste quite good. The problem is not, e.g., that many poor people can't afford the designer vegan foods made of soy and the ones like in your link. We need more vegan foods made of insects for example.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: gib on December 09, 2015, 04:29:10 AM
It's actually much cheaper to be a vegan once you get the hang of it. Lots of fruit, veggies, nuts, grains, oatmeal.

The vegans I've seen have gone to having real lean hard muscle and way more energy. Lower fat. Seems to work very well with Winstrol in terms of optimum muscle building. Def no need for clen as a vegan.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 09, 2015, 04:34:42 AM
It's actually much cheaper to be a vegan once you get the hang of it. Lots of fruit, veggies, nuts, grains, oatmeal.

The vegans I've seen have gone to having real lean hard muscle and way more energy.  Seems to work very well with Winstrol in terms of optimum muscle building. Def no need for clen as a vegan.

Most I've seen look anemic, are weak and skinny fat.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Raymondo on December 09, 2015, 04:48:11 AM
It seems Arnold's argument comes from a climate change perspective rather than a health one.

Assuming 20% of the West's population stop eating meat in the next five years... what are the chances the economic impact will cause a worldwide recession?
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on December 09, 2015, 04:51:58 AM
lol i give it ten, fifteen years before you can't even find whey powder in stores anymore

how people still believe you need so much protein in the year 2015 is beyond me

and anyone who uses the word 'animal protein' should probably not be allowed to reproduce

'b-b-but my macros'

http://beyondmeat.com/products/view/grilled-strips

20 p, per 3 net carbs

It's like religion. People are too scared not to believe it/do it.

Training is like it too. It's like you go from no training to training 5 days a week with 20 sets per bodypart. Without trying something in the middle or less.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: TheShape. on December 09, 2015, 05:11:59 AM
No...Arnold..no...
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: gib on December 09, 2015, 05:12:44 AM
Most I've seen look anemic, are weak and skinny fat.

Maybe these are ones that don't exercise. Give it a try. You will be amazed how it revs up your body.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Parker on December 09, 2015, 05:14:42 AM
A lot of soy based protein foods taste quite good. The problem is not, e.g., that many poor people can't afford the designer vegan foods made of soy and the ones like in your link. We need more vegan foods made of insects for example.
Soy contains estrogen, correct?
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: gib on December 09, 2015, 05:15:10 AM
It seems Arnold's argument comes from a climate change perspective rather than a health one.

Assuming 20% of the West's population stop eating meat in the next five years... what are the chances the economic impact will cause a worldwide recession?

Obviously it's better from a climate and ethical perspective. But the great thing is it's also better from a health and physical perspective.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Raymondo on December 09, 2015, 05:22:06 AM
Obviously it's better from a climate and ethical perspective. But the great thing is it's also better from a health and physical perspective.

Undeniably so. However, I am not sure it is good from an economic perspective.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Yamcha on December 09, 2015, 05:29:54 AM
Crom laughs at your climate change
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: wes on December 09, 2015, 05:31:16 AM
Vegan = the new "hip" trend.


Soon there`ll be some other bullshit fad to take its place.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: gib on December 09, 2015, 05:35:13 AM
Soy contains estrogen, correct?

Sort of. It contains a compound similar to estrogen. The good thing is guess what. Your body has a natural estrogen to testosterone hormone level ratio. So when you boost up then soy guess what happens. The body naturally adjusts the ratio and boosts the testosterone. And it's all natural. Which to some extent explains the lean hard muscle that vegans get, especially when on Winstrol.

Levrone went vegan a while back and swears by it now. Franco also is vegan. I'm just waiting for Kai to convert. (Yes I know - queue the grape fruit jokes ...)
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 09, 2015, 05:51:21 AM
Ballers and the rock
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: drkaje on December 09, 2015, 06:06:28 AM
Soy contains estrogen, correct?

Nothing's more estrogenic than soy. Also, you have to get that most of the soy now was genetically modified by ADM. That's one of the reasons we have so many fat kids.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: kreator on December 09, 2015, 07:58:00 AM
Sort of. It contains a compound similar to estrogen. The good thing is guess what. Your body has a natural estrogen to testosterone hormone level ratio. So when you boost up then soy guess what happens. The body naturally adjusts the ratio and boosts the testosterone. And it's all natural. Which to some extent explains the lean hard muscle that vegans get, especially when on Winstrol.

Levrone went vegan a while back and swears by it now. Franco also is vegan. I'm just waiting for Kai to convert. (Yes I know - queue the grape fruit jokes ...)

soy also contains stuff that inhibits production of thyroid hormones by blocking some enzymes

there's your answer lol
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2015, 08:18:10 AM
Did you even bother to read that he said one day meat-free?

It's not as if he recommended going full homosexual, LOL!

In a way, I can see what he is saying.

The world is currently WAY overpopulated. There is an estimated 7.3 billion people. The world population will eventually reach 10 billion people. Research has shown that earth can support roughly 2 billion people. We are pushing the envelope. There is only so much youre going to reap from nature. There are just way too many people. Yet, people keep popping out baby after baby after baby.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Yamcha on December 09, 2015, 08:26:22 AM
In a way, I can see what he is saying.

The world is currently WAY overpopulated. There is an estimated 7.3 billion people. The world population will eventually reach 10 billion people. Research has shown that earth can support roughly 2 billion people. We are pushing the envelope. There is only so much youre going to reap from nature. There are just way too many people. Yet, people keep popping out baby after baby after baby.  :-\ :-\

What research?  ???
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2015, 08:48:12 AM
What research?  ???

Its there. Just google it.

The world is overpopulated. FACT!
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: SilverSpoon on December 09, 2015, 09:54:52 AM
Vegan = the new "hip" trend.


Soon there`ll be some other bullshit fad to take its place.

Anything is better than these annoying beards and "parts" shaved into someone's head.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Yamcha on December 09, 2015, 09:57:47 AM
Its there. Just google it.

The world is overpopulated. Its a fact.

I don't believe you, and I'm too busy.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/129fSchexp3aPC/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2015, 09:59:05 AM
I don't believe you, and I'm too busy.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/129fSchexp3aPC/giphy.gif)



Shit, you don't even have to be as intelligent as Wiggs to know the world is overpopulated.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: NelsonMuntz on December 09, 2015, 10:15:33 AM
Vegan = the new "hip" trend.


Soon there`ll be some other bullshit fad to take its place.

this
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: NelsonMuntz on December 09, 2015, 10:19:24 AM
l.

Levrone went vegan a while back and swears by it now. Franco also is vegan. I'm just waiting for Kai to convert. (Yes I know - queue the grape fruit jokes ...)

LOFL Levrone has never been consistent with anything in his life except excessive alcohol intake.

The guy has started more businesses and hobbies that he never finishes/fails at than Goodrum
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: NelsonMuntz on December 09, 2015, 11:11:29 AM
LOL love Arnold

Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: cephissus on December 09, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
funny how NONE of the fitness youtubers that have gone vegan have lost any gains...

also FF, i always thought fake meats were expensive because they are specialty items sold on a small scale.  somehow i doubt production of some soy and pea lab mixture is ultimately more difficult than growing and slaughtering animals.

either way, it makes fuck all difference because fake meats aren't necessary for any sane fitness endeavor anyway.  MAYBE you need something of that macro composition to get 'stage ready', but i highly doubt it... and that's the only even remotely plausible use i can think of.

when it comes to protein, people suddenly lose all sense.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 09, 2015, 03:16:52 PM
funny how NONE of the fitness youtubers that have gone vegan have lost any gains...

That's just an assumption. You don't know for sure if they really made the switch and there's no data about their body composition before & after.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: cephissus on December 09, 2015, 03:20:21 PM
That's just an assumption. You don't know for sure if they really made the switch and there's no data about their body composition before & after.

true but with the popularity of 'what i ate today' vlogs, you can hardly say there's 'no data' :D

(not serious, of course, lolz)
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 09, 2015, 03:35:11 PM
true but with the popularity of 'what i ate today' vlogs, you can hardly say there's 'no data' :D

(not serious, of course, lolz)

Well, to throw back some seriousness in the mix, it would be a nice experiment to compare 2 large groups of people who've never lifted before. One group eats normal and the other one.. that's right. Would there be a difference in body composition changes (i.e. statistically relevant ones) between both groups after -say- 6 months of weight training?
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: SquidVicious on December 09, 2015, 06:33:36 PM
No different than "supporting" Caitlyn Jenner. Every now and then you have to throw a bone to the liberal phaggots special interest groups.
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: Nether Animal on December 09, 2015, 06:52:41 PM
I don't believe you, and I'm too busy.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/129fSchexp3aPC/giphy.gif)



That's not you...
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: NelsonMuntz on December 09, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
funny how NONE of the fitness youtubers that have gone vegan have lost any gains...

also FF, i always thought fake meats were expensive because they are specialty items sold on a small scale.  somehow i doubt production of some soy and pea lab mixture is ultimately more difficult than growing and slaughtering animals.

either way, it makes fuck all difference because fake meats aren't necessary for any sane fitness endeavor anyway.  MAYBE you need something of that macro composition to get 'stage ready', but i highly doubt it... and that's the only even remotely plausible use i can think of.

when it comes to protein, people suddenly lose all sense.

With all due respect, are you not the guy who tries a new fad diet like every week?
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: absfabs on December 09, 2015, 07:38:41 PM
Crom laughs at your climate change

LOL
Title: Re: Arnie supports Vegan Gains
Post by: cephissus on December 09, 2015, 10:02:46 PM
weird how no one believes testosterone boosters work, but everyone believes soy boosts estrogen ???