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Officially came on at 8:39 pm. Odd.
Did they start 9 minutes late because Trump's limo rolled in at 8:26 pm? LOL! Everyone else was standing around waiting for the prom king to show up.
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Jeb called Trump a "Chaos Candidate"
Trump did the BJ face in response. Watch the video lol.
Those 2 tearing each other up.
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Rand is outright DESTROYING Rubio on his loose immigration stance.
Rubio sweating badly already, 25 minutes into the debate.
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(http://www.truthrevolt.org/sites/default/files/styles/teaser_large/public/field/image/articles/ted-cruz_0.jpg?itok=rJGALv0H)
Cruz Continues to Grow in Iowa
Beats Trump and grabs second choice points
Ted Cruz is not only pulling in ten points more than Donald Trump in Iowa, but the Des Moines Register-Bloomberg poll shows the Texas senator growing as a preferred second choice candidate.
The latest horse race numbers put Cruz at 31% support among likely caucusgoers, Trump at 31%, Ben Carson at 13%, and Marco Rubio at 12%. But it is Cruz's potential for growth that is notable.
And there are signs Cruz may not have peaked in Iowa yet. Another 20 percent of likely caucusgoers say he's their current second choice for president. Cruz hits 51 percent support when first- and second-choice interest is combined, again leading the field.
With Cruz's popularity and his debate proficiency, "it's certainly possible that he could win Iowa big — very big," said Frank Luntz, a Nevada-based GOP focus group guru who follows the Iowa race closely.
The Iowa caucuses are scheduled for February 1st, with New Hampshire holding its primary on February 9th.
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Rand is outright DESTROYING Rubio on his loose immigration stance.
Rubio sweating badly already, 25 minutes into the debate.
(http://www.mountrantmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/trump-ice-water-woolman-rink.jpg)
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Brutal debate. These are potential American presidents? I almost miss George Retard Bush Jr.
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He was and is smarter then Obama..did better in school...accomplished more before the presidency and was a kind and decent American. Obama is a failed worthless piece of traitorous shit and needs to be wearing an orange jumpsuit.
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Jeb Bush looks like a creepy pervert with those thick glasses on.
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Brutal debate. These are potential American presidents? I almost miss George Retard Bush Jr.
Dubya was way more competent than most of this mess tonight. Carly has now said she plans to use force to get china, NKorea, and Russia to do what we want.
She'll shoot down russian planes and refuse to ever TALK to putin until they give us everything we want in syria.
Is. She. Fcking. High?
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the answer to everything is more military spending. Gotcha! :)
Trump saying it's okay to focus on killing women and children because "ISIS is already doing it anyway" should go down as the worst answer in the history of politics. But it won't. Because 41% of today's base voters are ignorant pieces of shit.
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He was and is smarter then Obama..did better in school...accomplished more before the presidency and was a kind and decent American. Obama is a failed worthless piece of traitorous shit and needs to be wearing an orange jumpsuit.
Still spreading your crazy irrational hate I see............you can't help yourself
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Trump has jumped the shark. Full of himself. He's a joke and everyone on that stage knows it.
Cruz is looking like a president tonight. Trump is looking like a pompous ass, simply put.
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Trump's great quotes from tonight ->
"They can kill us, but we can't kill them?" (on why it's okay to kill wives and children of terrorists)
"I'm not talking about closing the internet... i'm talking about shutting it down only in certain places."
Trump wants to pull the USA from Geneva convention, and yes, censoring whatever parts of the internet that the federal govt sees fit. Do you want president hilary having that power? LOL!!!
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Cruz was the best of the bunch but he's an oddball. None of them will beat hilary.
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http://time.com/4151072/republican-debate-las-vegas-cnn/
A good summary. Cruz' purple unicorns of peace.
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There's a thin line between "strength" and "acting just like the fccking terrorists"
Calling for family of terrorists to be killed? Calling for carpet bombing in 2015 with so many more tools and tech and airpower at our disposal? Saying "they do it, why can't we"?
IMO, when Trump spent 45 seconds bullshitting about nuclear power to avoid admitting he had no idea what the fck the nuclear triad was... that says it ALL. If you watch that question, you'll instantly see Trump's face when asked - swallows and gulp, doesn't know what it is - SO he pulls a carson and sloooowly re-explains why nuclear war is so dangerous. CNN host smells it and asks which part of the triad he is most concerned about... Trump, again, rambles about why he's the best choice.
Rubio swoops in and explains the nuclear triad to trump. I think Trump being lost on this one shouldn't go overlooked. it's one thing to hand out lindsey graham's phone number and mock the handicapped... BUT now knowing the nuclear triad... huge unprepared move by Trump. Shameful.
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There's a thin line between "strength" and "acting just like the fccking terrorists"
Calling for family of terrorists to be killed? Calling for carpet bombing in 2015 with so many more tools and tech and airpower at our disposal? Saying "they do it, why can't we"?
IMO, when Trump spent 45 seconds bullshitting about nuclear power to avoid admitting he had no idea what the fck the nuclear triad was... that says it ALL. If you watch that question, you'll instantly see Trump's face when asked - swallows and gulp, doesn't know what it is - SO he pulls a carson and sloooowly re-explains why nuclear war is so dangerous. CNN host smells it and asks which part of the triad he is most concerned about... Trump, again, rambles about why he's the best choice.
Rubio swoops in and explains the nuclear triad to trump. I think Trump being lost on this one shouldn't go overlooked. it's one thing to hand out lindsey graham's phone number and mock the handicapped... BUT now knowing the nuclear triad... huge unprepared move by Trump. Shameful.
Oh wow, a politician skirting around a question imagine that. ::)
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Oh wow, a politician skirting around a question imagine that. ::)
usually, when they skirt, it's because they don't want to take a solid position and thus piss off a % of potential voters. Every time you take a stance, you risk losing votes of people who feel otherwise.
this was a simple Q about which component of the triad was most concerning. Very easy to answer, without offending anyone, if you know what the fck it is. Trump did not. Pretty big deal if he indeed cannot explain what a running back, wide receiver, or tight end is, yet he wants to be QB with the nuclear football.
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Jeb Bush looks like a creepy pervert with those thick glasses on.
hes a self owning machine. I bet hes the kind of guy that says 'aw, shucks!'
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hes a self owning machine. I bet hes the kind of guy that says 'aw, shucks!'
with recent practice... jeb is good at delivering the insults on trump.
He's just soft as baby shit when it comes to the followup. "Oh, you're a real tough guy jeb!" and suddenly Jeb is stammering. Those practiced lines, you know he said them 1000 times getting ready. But he has nothing on the back-and-forth.
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with recent practice... jeb is good at delivering the insults on trump.
He's just soft as baby shit when it comes to the followup. "Oh, you're a real tough guy jeb!" and suddenly Jeb is stammering. Those practiced lines, you know he said them 1000 times getting ready. But he has nothing on the back-and-forth.
None of the bush men are good on their feet. It's due to the inbreeding and the alcoholism...
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Cruz is still my guy, but he needs to learn that "targeted attacks" and "carpet bombing" aren't the same thing.
I know, carpet bombing gives that audience their war boners and with trump up by 20, cruz needs to get them hard fast. But still, dangerous.
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None of the bush men are good on their feet. It's due to the inbreeding and the alcoholism...
Bush in the 90s was quick as shit on his feet. Some credit the coke use back then. Look up videos, he was quick and witty. He got very slow to win the base while running in 1999-2000. Then yes, he slowed down a lot.
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Officially came on at 8:39 pm. Odd.
Did they start 9 minutes late because Trump's limo rolled in at 8:26 pm? LOL! Everyone else was standing around waiting for the prom king to show up.
It's not odd at all that the Democratic debate was scheduled on a Saturday night at 6pm..lol.
Rush put it best when he said it was purposely scheduled then knowing that no one would watch because everytime Killary opens her mouth her poll numbers drop.
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It's not odd at all that the Democratic debate was scheduled on a Saturday night at 6pm..lol.
Rush put it best when he said it was purposely scheduled then knowing that no one would watch because everytime Killary opens her mouth her poll numbers drop.
If you watched the live pre-game... you'll see all of the others standing backstage together. THEN trump's limo arrives.
Looked like everyone was waiting.
Then the show started at 8:39. Instead of the 8:30 planned time. I am not hating on trump... if he has the clout to make em wait, so be it.
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Actually the only guys who can possibly beat Hillary are:
Christie
Rubio
Jeb.....because even though he's losing badly in the polls, he still is the most reasonable candidate out of all of them.
Christie is crazy when he said he would start WWIII by shooting down a Russian plane if they violated a no-fly zone.
Rubio and Cruz are sons of immigrants and yet are the most Anti-immigrant of the bunch after Trump.
When is Cruz going to show us his BC and clear up EXACTLY WHEN his father became a citizen??????? :D :D
REALLY funny how Coach is not on this
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REALLY funny how Coach is not on this
Coach already said he backs whoever wins. No matter if they're a respected conservative like Cruz, or a dumpster fire liberal like Trump. If there's an (R) next to their name, goooo team!
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its getting ridiculous, and suspicious, that they are keeping so many people at these debates. the herd should have been thinned already.
part of me thinks they keep 'changing the criteria' to keep more people onstage just to keep things watered down. I mean why the fuck is Bush still there, other than so they can ask him 50 questions about TRUMP? why the fuck is john Kasich even there??
face it, virtually ALL of these moderators as well as everyone in high places at any of these networks are all going to vote for Hillary...what a total farce this whole thing is
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its getting ridiculous, and suspicious, that they are keeping so many people at these debates. the herd should have been thinned already.
part of me thinks they keep 'changing the criteria' to keep more people onstage just to keep things watered down. I mean why the fuck is Bush still there, other than so they can ask him 50 questions about TRUMP? why the fuck is john Kasich even there??
face it, virtually ALL of these moderators as well as everyone in high places at any of these networks are all going to vote for Hillary...what a total farce this whole thing is
Well said. The political establishment (the 300 rich oligarchs who run the US) will only support Hillary. Shows of supports for these Republicants are for show only...
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Well said. The political establishment (the 300 rich oligarchs who run the US) will only support Hillary. Shows of supports for these Republicants are for show only...
That should tell us everything we need to know about Hillary, right there.
And if Jeb hadn't been so unfortunate to have the biggest moron of all time as a brother and a POTUS, it would very possibly be him in that position.
Either way, a huge loss for America.
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The irony is that Bill Clinton cause this mess in my view. His infidelity and lies about it while president offended a lot of Americans. Especially considering his holier than though attitude about everything else.
He was so bad that Bush Jr got elected (through state level fraud in Florida).
America has been getting crazier and crazier since then with a moderate portion of the population embracing progressive ideas like a black prez and gay marriage along with a crazy religious zealot group accounting for almost 40% of Americants who are going absolutely nuts.
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Well said. The political establishment (the 300 rich oligarchs who run the US) will only support Hillary. Shows of supports for these Republicants are for show only...
a lot of the repub establishment have openly admitted they would rather Hillary win than someone like TRUMP or Cruz...that says a lot. most of these clowns are all the same- globalists at heart and would rather see a fellow leftist globalist like Hillary win than someone who would actually do something terrible and racist like put America first.
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Bush is still onstage because reince priebus talked about high likelihood of brokered convention, even tho trumps lead is higher than any repub in recent history.
Bush knows by the 3rd or 4th ballot with nobody getting 51%, he might be able to broker a deal to get on a ticket. In those negotiations, bush is way more powerful than in the voting booths.
If it goes brokered, I'd put bushes chance higher than a newbie like cruz or Rubio. The establishment hates trump and cruz both. Carson is stoned. It'll comes down to bush, Rubio. Does anyone here really believe Rubio will strong arm a bush with the nomination on the line? Lol jeb can be nominee without winning a single primary. And morons in the party will cheer it like the did when Ron Paul got hosed in the name of party unity.
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a lot of the repub establishment have openly admitted they would rather Hillary win than someone like TRUMP or Cruz...that says a lot. most of these clowns are all the same- globalists at heart and would rather see a fellow leftist globalist like Hillary win than someone who would actually do something terrible and racist like put America first.
Doesn't this mean that there are two parties, alright, but not the "two parties" as claimed? Isn't that the reality, now?
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Bush is still onstage because reince priebus talked about high likelihood of brokered convention, even tho trumps lead is higher than any repub in recent history.
Bush knows by the 3rd or 4th ballot with nobody getting 51%, he might be able to broker a deal to get on a ticket. In those negotiations, bush is way more powerful than in the voting booths.
If it goes brokered, I'd put bushes chance higher than a newbie like cruz or Rubio. The establishment hates trump and cruz both. Carson is stoned. It'll comes down to bush, Rubio. Does anyone here really believe Rubio will strong arm a bush with the nomination on the line? Lol jeb can be nominee without winning a single primary. And morons in the party will cheer it like the did when Ron Paul got hosed in the name of party unity.
Good points. We are still under threat from Jeb Bush, yes.
The people mentioned in JM's post would just as soon have him as Hillary. That is the reality of our situation.
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its getting ridiculous, and suspicious, that they are keeping so many people at these debates. the herd should have been thinned already.
part of me thinks they keep 'changing the criteria' to keep more people onstage just to keep things watered down. I mean why the fuck is Bush still there, other than so they can ask him 50 questions about TRUMP? why the fuck is john Kasich even there??
face it, virtually ALL of these moderators as well as everyone in high places at any of these networks are all going to vote for Hillary...what a total farce this whole thing is
I think you make a good point....I think no onwe wants to drop out because they are all waiting for Trump and Carson to fade so that a real politician can emerge.....why is Pataki still in it FOR GOD'S SAKE?????????
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Well said. The political establishment (the 300 rich oligarchs who run the US) will only support Hillary. Shows of supports for these Republicants are for show only...
I like your line about the Oligarchs...BUT...I think most of the Oligarchs were supporting Jeb...they are just now keeping a low profile at this point.
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Bush is still onstage because reince priebus talked about high likelihood of brokered convention, even tho trumps lead is higher than any repub in recent history.
Bush knows by the 3rd or 4th ballot with nobody getting 51%, he might be able to broker a deal to get on a ticket. In those negotiations, bush is way more powerful than in the voting booths.
If it goes brokered, I'd put bushes chance higher than a newbie like cruz or Rubio. The establishment hates trump and cruz both. Carson is stoned. It'll comes down to bush, Rubio. Does anyone here really believe Rubio will strong arm a bush with the nomination on the line? Lol jeb can be nominee without winning a single primary. And morons in the party will cheer it like the did when Ron Paul got hosed in the name of party unity.
This point actually makes a lot of sense if the ultimate plan by the RNC is to just let things play out and then broker the convention at the last minute.......I agree I think they would turn to Jeb......all of the rich guys and people in the RNC owe Bush 42 and Bush 44 an awful lot of favors...Jeb's performance is geting better...if he begins to creep up in the polls.................th is scenario becomes much more likely
No one believes Trump can win.....everybody thinks Cruz is nuts and they hate him....that leaves Rubio.....too young..hasn't paid his dues....doesn't show up in the senate....student loans.....the RNC may say "Jeb, save us"....or.................. ........................ ........................ ........................ ..ROMNEY???
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This point actually makes a lot of sense if the ultimate plan by the RNC is to just let things play out and then broker the convention at the last minute.......I agree I think they would turn to Jeb......all of the rich guys and people in the RNC owe Bush 42 and Bush 44 an awful lot of favors...Jeb's performance is geting better...if he begins to creep up in the polls.................th is scenario becomes much more likely
ya gotta think... why in the F would reince priebus meet with mitch mcconnell... and oddly announce "the likelihood of a brokered convention is highest in modern history" when TRUMP has one of the biggest LEADS in recent history?
I'm very much anti-Trump, BUT I can admit when I see him about to get railroaded by the GOP establishment. During the debate, you say Jeb say "You're not going to be the nominee.... by insulting people" as if Jeb already KNEW Trump was getting the boot and just couldn't say it lol.
And YES, who is going to take the nomination from Jeb? Rubio? HA! The party hates Cruz. Rubio is a safe veep but he's in his 40s and has plenty of years to run for POTUS in 2024 when Jeb's finished doing the job.
Jeb is smiling more than ever. He knows in a brokered convention, with Rove and Bush I and II and all their years of supporters... Jeb knows it'll be a cakewalk to snatch the nomination from Cruz. You can see the SWAGGER on Jeb now. He knows the party is prepping to boot Trump despite his lead. I bet the GOP will be feeding $ to cruz and rubio to create just enough chaos so nobody gets to that magic number of delegates and it goes to the convention ;)
It's cool tho - because repubs were fine with the party shitting on Ron Paul last time with shady convention rule changes while Ron paul was on his bus on his way to the convention center. See if they're fine when their hero trump with 49% of votes is beaten out by Jeb with 3% of votes LOL!!