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I have a friend who is a pretty hardcore republican (although, at times, she doesn't sound like one). I was watching the debate with her and her husband last night (although I preferred to not watch it). Some of the topics that were discussed were surveillance and internet control, in order to deter terrorism. This was the debate that ensued:
Her: "I have no problem with a portion of the internet being shut down or having the government listening to the American people's phone calls, in order to intercept terrorist plots. What do you think?"
Me: "Well, I am against both, especially shutting down a portion of the internet, although I am unsure what Trump exactly means or how he would do this."
Her: "So, youre willing to let terrorists plot against Americans by using the internet, without caring that thousands of Americans may die?"
Me: "Of course I do not want Americans to die, but why should law abiding citizens who use the internet in a benign way, have to suffer?"
Her: "Well, youre a scumbag if you care about your precious internet so much that you have a problem with the government shutting down a portion of the internet to stop terrorist plots. You're willing to let Americans die, so you can go on that stupid bodybuilding site getbig or whatever its called."
Me: "Last week you said you had no problem with law abiding people owning guns, despite gun violence, and that we shouldn't punish law abiding gun owners for a bad apples. Yet, you want to punish law abiding internet users?"
Her: "Youre changing the topic and thats a stupid analogy to use."
Me: "No, its not. It actually makes perfect sense. You really don't get to pick and choose what rights you want taken away and which rights you want to keep. How do you decide that? And who decides when it is or isn't appropriate?"
Her: "Well, I don't care about gun ownership. I am not talking about that topic."
Me: "But, its sort of interrelated. What we are really talking about is stripping people's rights, whether its privacy, internet use, or gun ownership. I am not for any of that."
::she begins to scream and curse. Her husband tells her to calm down, then he goes into the other room::
Her: "If you don't stop with this shit, I am going to throw you out."
Me: "Why, because I disagree with you? You don't sound like a republican. You sound like a fascist, trying to strip away the rights of the people."
Her: "Okay, you need to stop."
So, I figured at that point, there was no sense of going on. I went inside and me and her husband (who doesn't really care about politics) chatted. She went upstairs. I left.
Politics...... :-X :-X :-X
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Cliffs notes please
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Cliffs notes please
She wants surveillance on america and wants to shut down a portion of the internet to control terrorism. She wants to take away the rights of law abiding internet users to a certain extent. I disagree. She totally flipped out!
Read the conversation. Its not that long. Its the most reading you will have done since 3rd grade. ;D ;D
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You can't have a conversation about politics with a person who's biased, it will eventually turn into a clash of emotional views and also drag you into a negative emotional state. I've fallen for this myself but I could never go out of a debate if the other one can't out think me logically, so I can't be 100% biased.
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You can't have a conversation about politics with a person who's biased, it will eventually turn into a clash of emotional views and also drag you into a negative emotional state. I've fallen for this myself but I could never go out of a debate if the other one can't out think me logically, so I can't be 100% biased.
I can't state on here what her bias is, but I have a feeling I know why shes so heavily invested in stopping terrorism, even if it means stripping away the rights of people.
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I can't state on here what her bias is, but I have a feeling I know why shes so heavily invested in stopping terrorism, even if it means stripping away the rights of people.
Tit pics??
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Tit pics??
lol. I knew this was coming. No pics, you old, pervert!! :D :D
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I can't state on here what her bias is, but I have a feeling I know why shes so heavily invested in stopping terrorism, even if it means stripping away the rights of people.
I don't know squat about her so I can't say shit for certain, but she seems to have that 80's american pride, modern feminism and modern libtardism in her. The latter 2 will eventually destroy the core meaning behind safety and common sense and you become a walking commercial
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I don't know squat about her so I can't say shit for certain, but she seems to have that 80's american pride, modern feminism and modern libtardism in her. The latter 2 will eventually destroy the core meaning behind safety and common sense and you become a walking commercial
Yet, she identifies as Republican, and is voting for Trump.
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Yet, she identifies as Republican, and is voting for Trump.
Well yeah, but she has a differend view on common sense and safety tho :P
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Well yeah, but she has a differend view on common sense and safety tho :P
As do most people. However, safety should not include wire taps on peoples phones and cutting off a portion of their internet access.
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She wants surveillance on america and wants to shut down a portion of the internet to control terrorism. She wants to take away the rights of law abiding internet users to a certain extent. I disagree. She totally flipped out!
Read the conversation. Its not that long. Its the most reading you will have done since 3rd grade. ;D ;D
Are you trying to say that FLEX articles on gaining 2 inches on my biceps in a week don't count?
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Please explain this line
Her: "If you don't stop with this shit, I am going to throw you out."
Does she mean physically throw you out or just unfriend you?
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I have a friend who is a pretty hardcore republican (although, at times, she doesn't sound like one). I was watching the debate with her and her husband last night (although I preferred to not watch it). Some of the topics that were discussed were surveillance and internet control, in order to deter terrorism. This was the debate that ensued:
Her: "I have no problem with a portion of the internet being shut down or having the government listening to the American people's phone calls, in order to intercept terrorist plots. What do you think?"
Me: "Well, I am against both, especially shutting down a portion of the internet, although I am unsure what Trump exactly means or how he would do this."
Her: "So, youre willing to let terrorists plot against Americans by using the internet, without caring that thousands of Americans may die?"
Me: "Of course I do not want Americans to die, but why should law abiding citizens who use the internet in a benign way, have to suffer?"
Her: "Well, youre a scumbag if you care about your precious internet so much that you have a problem with the government shutting down a portion of the internet to stop terrorist plots. You're willing to let Americans die, so you can go on that stupid bodybuilding site getbig or whatever its called."
Me: "Last week you said you had no problem with law abiding people owning guns, despite gun violence, and that we shouldn't punish law abiding gun owners for a bad apples. Yet, you want to punish law abiding internet users?"
Her: "Youre changing the topic and thats a stupid analogy to use."
Me: "No, its not. It actually makes perfect sense. You really don't get to pick and choose what rights you want taken away and which rights you want to keep. How do you decide that? And who decides when it is or isn't appropriate?"
Her: "Well, I don't care about gun ownership. I am not talking about that topic."
Me: "But, its sort of interrelated. What we are really talking about is stripping people's rights, whether its privacy, internet use, or gun ownership. I am not for any of that."
::she begins to scream and curse. Her husband tells her to calm down, then he goes into the other room::
Her: "If you don't stop with this shit, I am going to throw you out."
Me: "Why, because I disagree with you? You don't sound like a republican. You sound like a fascist, trying to strip away the rights of the people."
Her: "Okay, you need to stop."
So, I figured at that point, there was no sense of going on. I went inside and me and her husband (who doesn't really care about politics) chatted. She went upstairs. I left.
Politics...... :-X :-X :-X
Should have sent her directly to the kitchen for more sandwiches.
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Please explain this line
Her: "If you don't stop with this shit, I am going to throw you out."
Does she mean physically throw you out or just unfriend you?
Well, it was her house, so she would just ask me to leave (i.e., I guess "unfriend" me). She couldn't physically throw me out. But, since it's her house, if she asked me to leave, I'd leave. I have no business being there if she doesn't want me there.
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Are you trying to say that FLEX articles on gaining 2 inches on my biceps in a week don't count?
Depends. Were there words in the article that had more than 3 syllables?
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Depends. Were there words in the article that had more than 3 syllables?
It was written by Bob Chick, so the answer is no.
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Conservatives != libertarians.
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Sounds like she needs a crash course is the constitution
Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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Should have sent her directly to the kitchen for more sandwiches.
She does make a good sandwich!
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never discuss politics with individuals that have vaginas between their legs , or personal trainers
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Sounds like she needs a crash course is the constitution
Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Her thought process was this:
If you have nothing to hide, then who cares if the government listens in on your phone calls or has access to your telephone records. As long as it deters terrorism, who cares.
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It was written by Bob Chick, so the answer is no.
Drugs are just the finishing touch. :) :)
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Her thought process was this:
If you have nothing to hide, then who cares if the government listens in on your phone calls or has access to your telephone records. As long as it deters terrorism, who cares.
She should, that way of thinking hasn't worked out to well in the past. Besides I guess she thinks its OK for .gov to just ignore the constitution whenever they feel like.
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Her thought process was this:
If you have nothing to hide, then who cares if the government listens in on your phone calls or has access to your telephone records. As long as it deters terrorism, who cares.
Sounds similar to how some cops think: "If you have nothing to hide, what are you afraid of? What are you hiding?"
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lol. I knew this was coming. No pics, you old, pervert!! :D :D
LOL, you know me all too well. ;D
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Kind of funny, just like anti gun freaks, rather than address the real problem they'd rather give up rights.
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Part of me thinks this didn't happen, or at least didn't go down like you say because that's a ludicrous stance to have on her part. But, I remember a buddy of mine in college said he wouldn't mind having cameras in his house to video him if it cut down on crime rates. His answer, "I don't care because I don't break the law".This now leads me to believe the people you were quarreling with were either college age or recently removed from the college age/setting. She sounds like a bitch threatening to kick you out, and there's nothing in there about her husbands thoughts. He must be a beta. My advice, get some new friends, you have outgrown these people.
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Part of me thinks this didn't happen, or at least didn't go down like you say because that's a ludicrous stance to have on her part. But, I remember a buddy of mine in college said he wouldn't mind having cameras in his house to video him if it cut down on crime rates. His answer, "I don't care because I don't break the law".This now leads me to believe the people you were quarreling with were either college age or recently removed from the college age/setting. She sounds like a bitch threatening to kick you out, and there's nothing in there about her husbands thoughts. He must be a beta. My advice, get some new friends, you have outgrown these people.
Actually, it did go down exactly like that.
No, she graduated college and has been working in a career for quite some time now. At least 10+ years out of college.
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Kind of funny, just like anti gun freaks, rather than address the real problem they'd rather give up rights.
Its a confirmation bias. :D :D
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Well, it was her house, so she would just ask me to leave (i.e., I guess "unfriend" me). She couldn't physically throw me out. But, since it's her house, if she asked me to leave, I'd leave. I have no business being there if she doesn't want me there.
She could have if she wanted to right?
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She could have if she wanted to right?
ok
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ok
I'm sorry.
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Your mistake: Trying to have an intellectual conversation with a female.
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It sounds simple, of course we should have privacy. No censorship on internet either.
The thing is about finding the balance between surveillance on possible suspect groups (terrorists, kiddie porn rings whatever) and actual criminals. Blanket surveillance is stupid, and counter productive as there is too much white noise, but you do need targeted surveillance. How effective it is is questionable as IS etc are using very clever methods of avoiding detection online.
On a side note cctv's omnipresence pisses me off as much as it interferes more in my daily life. Fair enough in a shop to stop people stealing but go to the UK and you can't scratch your balls without ten cameras picking it up.
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Never discuss politics with individuals that have vaginas between their legs.
This.
Or really, anyone. This world is eternally screwed, so what's the point? Just do your thing and laugh at the endless chaos and nonsense.
There are WAY too many people on this planet. With so many, all with differing viewpoints and values (and ethical integrity), how can any society even begin to come to a place of balance and peace?
Impossible.
Regarding this "friend", she sounds like a total emotional drain. Avoid her whenever possible.
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Cut that bitch troath
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You tell friends that you use getbig?
Getbig is my secret shame that I'll take to the grave, no homo.
Getbig is the place to be, like a crackhouse
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I disagree. She totally flipped out!
Imagine how much she would flip out if she knew that you spend many hours a day defending radical islam?
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Whats her take on Syrian refugees? I hope if she's willing to give up personal freedoms she is willing to take a stand against potential terrorists entering the country.
You should have also reminded her that the government is already doing these things illegally anyhow.
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Cliffs notes please
OP is a cock loving troll
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Sounds like you two don't really get along too well in general if you both get perturbed so easily.
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You tell friends that you use getbig?
Getbig is my secret shame that I'll take to the grave, no homo.
Eh, Ive only really said so in passing. :-X :-X
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Imagine how much she would flip out if she knew that you spend many hours a day defending radical islam?
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Sounds like you two don't really get along too well in general if you both get perturbed so easily.
I was actually quite calm. She was the one who got all pissed. I guess that is why they say to never discuss religion or politics with friends/family. :D :D
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Sounds like the average person.
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She wants surveillance on america and wants to shut down a portion of the internet to control terrorism. She wants to take away the rights of law abiding internet users to a certain extent. I disagree. She totally flipped out!
i listened to a military vet analyst talking about the absurdity of trump saying "take away their internet".
1) bad guys having phones is awesome - allows us to trace their movement and map out their network of associates
2) impossible to stop internet connection when every phone for $30 at every gas station on the planet has data now.
Trump doesn't understand there's not just a pipeline/switch that goes to ISIStown that he can just turn off... and even if there was, he wouldn't WANT to switch it because it's near impossible to track the fckers if they return to couriers and word of mouth.
the good thing about the debates = Trump is showing more and more, than he's ignorant on many military strategies. Rubio was looking like a fcking rocket scientist with his quick, concise answers. Cruz knew the percentages and meta data. Trump didn't know what the nuclear triad was, and wanted to turn off ISIS wifi. Ass.
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i listened to a military vet analyst talking about the absurdity of trump saying "take away their internet".
1) bad guys having phones is awesome - allows us to trace their movement and map out their network of associates
2) impossible to stop internet connection when every phone for $30 at every gas station on the planet has data now.
Trump doesn't understand there's not just a pipeline/switch that goes to ISIStown that he can just turn off... and even if there was, he wouldn't WANT to switch it because it's near impossible to track the fckers if they return to couriers and word of mouth.
the good thing about the debates = Trump is showing more and more, than he's ignorant on many military strategies. Rubio was looking like a fcking rocket scientist with his quick, concise answers. Cruz knew the percentages and meta data. Trump didn't know what the nuclear triad was, and wanted to turn off ISIS wifi. Ass.
Your average voter, unfortunately, isn't a military vet analyst though... :'(
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She sounds like a dumb annoying bitch.
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Your average voter, unfortunately, isn't a military vet analyst though... :'(
They THINK they are lol.
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You tell friends that you use getbig?
Getbig is my secret shame that I'll take to the grave, no homo.
Exactly. A very embellished or even made up scenario. Besides, OP believes that the president has already been decided by the "powers that be" never specifying who those powers are and how they are able to usurp authority from very powerful and influential people and PACTS.
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They THINK they are lol.
;D ;D
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Whats her take on Syrian refugees? I hope if she's willing to give up personal freedoms she is willing to take a stand against potential terrorists entering the country.
You should have also reminded her that the government is already doing these things illegally anyhow.
She says to close all of the borders. She sides with Trump on most issues.